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22679712 No.22679712 [Reply] [Original]

Is it really that much better than the 15 other f gardner books?

>> No.22680123

>>22679712
It’s the first, so it’s actually a little bit worse than the others. Still a clsssic though. You can see how his style has—not exactly matured—but definitely mutated over the years. Definitely worth a read.

>> No.22680138

The first 30 seconds of the audiobook are great.

>> No.22680161

>>22680138
The last 30 are even better!

>> No.22680163

>>22680123
Curious. How’s it changed?

>> No.22680200

>>22680163
The plotlines became a bit more coherent and intricate and I think he actually started leaning into his own style and taking advantage of his reputation as an amateur. When I interviewed him in 2021, he implies that he purposefully wrote Call of the Arcade—one of his successful follow-up thrillers in the Horror’s Call series—from the perspective of an amateur writer. I suggest in the interview that he does this as a built-in anti-trolling technique, and it works well in that utility. In fact, the whole metaliterary approach he takes im that book pretty much serves to refute any criticism of his style. At the time, I thought it was genius, but still wasn’t entirely sure if he acted purposefully to that end, but since the F Games thing, I’m pretty sold on his natural ability to garner attention, marshal resources, and lead communities.

>> No.22680869

>>22680200
>I, the author, am not an amateur hack whose grammar sins cry to high heaven.
>The narrator, however, is.
over 9000 IQ 4D chess move

>> No.22680891

>>22680869
Exactly. He’s way smarter than we give him credit for.

>> No.22681052

>>22679712
I need to read this.

>> No.22681149

Memes aside I respect Gardner more than the other sad loser faggots around here who are boring as shit. I'd read Gardner before anything from the unrealtrannies anyday.

>> No.22681197

>>22681149
same, along with the amp faggots who talk shit about gardner behind his back

>> No.22681308

This entire thread is pathetic...nothing but Gardner samefagging and stroking himself in public. No matter what you think, becoming more and more delusional is NOT a winning move.

>> No.22681311

>>22681308
Gardner berating himself as usual to make it sound like he's got more haters than he actually does

>> No.22681347
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22681347

Gardner seems like a nice guy though

>> No.22681370

>>22681308
This, G*rdner is literally only known on this board because he gives japmoot money. Don't even say his name, he jacks off at the amount of time his name is mentioned on this board.

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>>22681311
If you've been paying attention to his sperging-out lately, you'll see he's ranting about using legal force against his perceived enemies. Never mind that parody is protected under the "Fair Use" act of U.S. Copyright Law, and that was reaffirmed in 1994 by the Supreme Court in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_v._Acuff-Rose_Music,_Inc., because it seems nothing is going to stop him from getting his rich lawyer daddy to file a bunch of nuisance lawsuits until he and daddy get slapped down hard by the court system.

>> No.22681422

>>22681404
g farmer is just an obligate parasite with no ideas of his own who thinks that him being a boring fag makes him superior. So what if he 'writes proper grammar'? Anyone can write good grammar. It takes talent to come up with interesting stories.

>> No.22681426

>>22681422
That has nothing to do with whether a parody is legally liable for "copyright violation". It's not. Stop deflecting. You may as well fault the seething pseud for stealing all his ideas from /x/. And I personally enjoyed the parody greatly.

>> No.22681428

>>22681426
people who rely on parody are the lowest form of artist

>> No.22681434

>>22681426
it is copyright violation since you are directly copying gardner's covers
and i don't even really like gardner

>> No.22681437

>>22681428
That doesn't mean parody is legally actionable. Stop avoiding the issue.
>>22681434
It was vaguely in the style of one of his covers, but you can't copyright "childish chalk drawings".

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22681467

>>22679712
Jason Bryan, a 45 year old gay smut writer is shilling a book written by a slightly less old retarded person in the hopes of winning his favor and grifting children into buying his own portly written book.

>> No.22681499

>>22681467
You're conflating a bunch of things here. Bryan is just another sycophant like Tooky who asskisses anyone he believes to have clout. Whether or not Gardner's works have validity is an independent problem. It's clear that Jason's books are dumpster fodder.

>> No.22681781

>>22681197
Amp is on the Gardner train again, get real.

>> No.22681784

>>22681781
>again
you people are scum compared to gardner

>> No.22681817

>>22681784
Everyone is scum compared to Garder. At least Amp recognizes this.

>> No.22681874

>>22681404
What a loser lol.

>> No.22681879

>>22681817
you people shit on him until he threatened to sue lmao
you're like a retarded child

>> No.22681884

If I buy his book and dump it on /lit/, will he die?

>> No.22681902

>>22681781
Is that what went on in those threads was about? It just seemed like a bunch of schitzos sperging at each other.

>> No.22681916

>>22681902
tl;dr version is that the editor kenneth was simped for a mid black girl editor, harassed her after getting rejected, doxxed himself with an arrest for crack possession
the discord fags from there are in shambles, and frank might sue them on top of everythng

>> No.22682083

>>22681884
It would be extremely autistic.

>> No.22682173

>>22681879
He hasn’t threatened to sue anybody, retard. I’m behind him now because he Made Nano Great Again. All Gardner has to do to get his way is send me a message.

>> No.22682175

>>22681916
None of this is true but clearly this board loves a good story. A lot of people are still under the influence of lies, this poster included. No matter though, the more bizarre the mythos, the more attention my inbox seems to receive.

>> No.22682179

>>22682175
so much attention that you have to beg on reddit for submissions.
Also I thought you said you couldn't access /lit/, you lying sack of manure.

>> No.22682180

>>22682173
Enjoy the DMCA for the copyright infringement of Call of United Airlines, again. fraud. no wonder you, kenneth hartley, are a drug addict crackhead. don't ever lie between your teeth and say you EVER supported gardner before yesterday. fucking cunt

>> No.22682190

>>22682173
Anon unironically kys. Forget 4chan memes, this kind of dick riding is a sign your life means less than nothing. End it before it gets worse, for your own sake

>> No.22682192

>>22682175
kek, your arrest record (that you posted yourself) is on the archive
you're a terrible liar despite being a schizophrenic
no wonder why you're poor

>> No.22682197

>>22682083
For who?

>> No.22682198

>>22682197
>rushing the punchline
cmon bro

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22682250

>>22682179
You might have your causation backwards. I got a slough of submissions after I took to reddit.
Also my b& is up so I'm happy to shitpost again. Notice how Ari scampered away back to his cave after I turned up in the thread. He's so cute sometimes.
>>22682180
Listen anon: I was a huge fan of Gardner at the outset of my tenure here. I put a lot of effort into shilling his name and his work and even publicly defended him during his interview.
A few months ago, I was scheduled to interview him again. But I made a snide remark on Discord about how I was looking forward to dunking on his antisemitic comedy, Kabbalah of the Crocodile, and painting him as a racist. Which was supposed to be mostly funny, though I did want to extend his enigmatic lore and shroud him further in notoriety, I had never actually planned to comp the guy (Gardner himself wrote the book to take advantage of the antisemitic tendencies of this website and its users). He found my snide remark and decided to back out of the interview. A day or so later, a personal friend of mine was attacked on Instagram in some bizarre racist tirade by somebody pretending to be F. Gardner using a throwaway. I assumed it was actually F. Gardner and shot back by composting and posting a graphic yet hilarious death threat to him on Discord, and I declared war on him in &amp Magazine.
HOWEVER, it turns out that the tirade against my personal friend was actually likely the work of Ari, not Gardner. So I took a huge shit on Frank for no good reason! Of course the guy probably hates me; he has everything right to hate me; I don't expect him not to hate me, but I will still sing his praises and shill for his celebrity because I see now the err of my ways and better appreciate his genius.
>>22682180
Frank has no intention of filing DMCAs against releases of Airlines.
Currently Frank is hosting mobile ads alongside ads for the new G. Farmer book, and he's perfectly chill about it, talking about Sonic on Discord, not tripping out. In fact, I might even suggest that Frank is Farmer, otherwise the whole Formerly Chuck Nano nuke coinciding with Wells Fargo seems like more than just a coincidence. I doubt F. Gardner even thinks about me, he has actual cool shit going on. If I ever get the chance, I'll apologize and offer my fielty. Until then, anonymous posters on a french nascar forum won't dissuade my support.
>>22682192
The paperwork doesn't specify the offense does it? Jamie, pull my dox up.

>> No.22682256

>>22682250
>I put a lot of effort into shilling his name and his work
>and shot back by composting and posting a graphic yet hilarious death threat to him on Discord
You're a schizophrenic loser.

>> No.22682264
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22682264

>>22682256
That's been established, anon. I am the most schizophrenic loser of them all. Next.

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22682269

>>22682250
>none of this is true
>The paperwork doesn't specify the offense does it
TOPKEK at self doxxing and admitting a lie in the span of two posts

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>>22682269
Yes, I'm a liar, believe me. It wasn't a drug possession, anyway, though that's immaterial by now I'm sure. Anyway, if you need assistance with the Best-Of please let me know, I'd rather it see daylight before the new year (if I can help it).

>> No.22682287

>>22682277
fuck off with your discord faggot schizo garbage

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>>22682287

>> No.22682297

>>22682293
Discord faggot trash. Kill yourself.

>> No.22682303

>>22682293
USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST
>>22682297
Like I said, let me know if you need a hand :^)

>> No.22682308

>>22682303
No one gives a fuck about schizophrenic mentally ill garbage besides you and your fellow 'tards. Kill yourself.

>> No.22682310

>>22682308
>>22682297
>>22682287
this niggaz mad

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22682315

>>22682198
Sorry, I forgot the line.

>> No.22682320

>>22682293
Fuck off, discord troon

>> No.22682326

>>22682310
>>22682310
>>22682303
>>22682293
>>22682277
>>22682250
discord faggot desperate to keep his faggot discord alive

>> No.22682332

>Hannah
heh

>> No.22682337

empty headed bimbo retard.

>> No.22682347

>>22682320
Thanks for the bump.
>>22680163
Anyway, Gardner's writing style itself didn't change too much over the course of his career insofar however the subject matter that he covered, and the general complexity and depth of his plots did increase. For example, at first, his work was largely inspired by what seemed to be fairly entry level points along popular /x/ icebergs, and gradually grew to include more esoteric and mystic references. He's also experimented in format, having released an interactive paperback, Horror's Call Adventure (which I've recently ordered).
Now that Gardner has established himself as a bone fide patron of the local arts, I'm astounded that there are still individuals here that don't recognize his stature. He's bigger than ever.

>> No.22682352

i knew amp was schitzo and mentally ill but not this mentally ill

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>>22682326
Atlas nuked the discord. Now I'm taking my efforts straight to /lit/. And to be totally fair, &amp doesn't even need it's own threads, I can just camp the Gardner threads and Ari can make official &amp Is Dead threads on my behalf. Everything is so fucking gravy right now, the final piece of the puzzle will be getting Gardner to accept my apology and unpublishing Airlines at his personal request.

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>>22682352
You haven't seen anything yet.

>> No.22682367

>>22682347
>>>22682310
>>>22682310
>>>22682303
>>>22682293
>>>22682277
>>>22682250
>>22682347
>>22682361
>>22682361
>>22682362
no one cares about your discord e letter, couldn't be more of a desperate shill

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22682370

>>22682367
except you're upset and i'm smiling.

>> No.22682372

>>22682361
Imagine posting that you sent a death threat to F Gardner >>22682250
and shot back by composting and posting a graphic yet hilarious death threat to him on Discord, and I declared war on him in &amp Magazine.
Gardner can get you arrested for that.

>> No.22682378

>>22682370
What's your reading comprehension level? Your Discord shilling is shit no one cares about

>> No.22682379

>>22682372
One of these days you'll realize that getting arrested doesn't really bother me kek. Besides, I regret the pasta, not for legal reasons, but moral ones.

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>>22682378
try to filter me if you think you can :^)

>> No.22682390

>>22682379
Don't care, you're a discord faggot. LMAO

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>>22682390
Keep sending me (You)s.
If you can't reply to this post, I also accept IO(You)s

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>>22682394

>> No.22682405

Since you're here, I'll ask on behalf of that anon from the last thread who was considering doing a project of his own: do you plan to fuck with upstart /lit/ projects that encroach on "your turf" like you did with &non?

>> No.22682417

>>22682175
>>22682250
>>22682264
>>22682277
>>22682293
>>22682303
>>22682310
>>22682347
>>22682362
>>22682370
>>22682379
>>22682385
>>22682395
>>22682400
Reminder: the amp editor is a crackhead who was just banned from /lit/ and is now spamming a frank gardner thread (after admitting to sending him a death threat)
>I assumed it was actually F. Gardner and shot back by composting and posting a graphic yet hilarious death threat to him on Discord
>>22682250

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>>22682405
&non was born in a fake &amp bread that was baked specifically to shit on me and subvert the brand. I coopted the project for the lulz and to BTFO Ari.
i have zero problem with /lit/ projects and would gladly contribute writing to any of them (and I have and am and will). This is not a competitive arena, it's an art scene. I would totally be partaking in Gardner's Mighty Nano if i wasn't persona non grata. I have nothing but love for all /lit/ projects, Gardner's (or Atlas' for that matter) included.

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>>22682417

>> No.22682444

>>22682433
what brand is that, you cum-eating psycho?

>> No.22682445

>>22682433
What if this guy openly rejects you and Unreal like he said he was considering?

>> No.22682447

>>22682444
The entries to &non were too good. It was ruining amp's reputation.

>> No.22682448

>>22682444
Checked. The &amp brand of course. Did you watch the first half of the movie at all?

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>>22682445
who?
>>22682447
they weren't THAT good anon, not that basic &amp fare is any better. it was mostly low effort improvisational writing though i will admit there were couple bangers. the project was going to be included as a part of the &amp bibliography, so it wasn't really ruining anything.
and of course Atlas is free to continue producing the project, though between you and me and all of the internet, she's not at all well right now.

>> No.22682460

>>22682442
Yes, you sure have flooded a Frank Gardner thread about Amp. Thanks for clarifying

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>>22682460
I couldn't have done it without your help, anon. Big props.

>> No.22682466

>>22682459
Thanks for continuing to flood the thread about your discord news letter. Has nothing to do with Frank, other than you threatening to kill him
>I assumed it was actually F. Gardner and shot back by composting and posting a graphic yet hilarious death threat to him on Discord
>>22682250

>> No.22682469

>>22682464
Didn't take me at all. You're a schizophrenic. Make your own threads and stop spamming Call of the Crocodile threads.

>> No.22682476

>>22682459
>who
This guy >>22678717

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>>22682466
>>22682469
Anyway, as I was saying, Gardner's work has definitely grown over the years, and I'll be excited to read whatever he releases next.
One of the interest things about Kabbalah of the Crocodile, is the caricature of Hasidic Jews is surprisingly accurate, indicating that he must have done some decent research for this work. There are also some good example of cross-lingustic wordplay and Yiddish puns, as well as some deeper-level Gematria that plays with page numbers and references to the Talmud. It's a surprisingly deep work for a comedy, and sort of turns the ideology of racism on its own head. Of course the prose is composed in his classic style (which I admit has grown on me after reading his wider catalog), so I'm not entirely sure how to rate the work in totality (again, confounded by genius (perhaps Gardner has filtered me afterall)), though as far as entertaining literature is concerned, he's really dialed into his niche.

>> No.22682493

>>22682476
where does he suggest that he would reject a contribution from me?

>> No.22682497

>>22682490
>I assumed it was actually F. Gardner and shot back by composting and posting a graphic yet hilarious death threat to him on Discord
jannies mods

>> No.22682505

>>22682497
anon, that's just a reference to a threat, not an actual threat. also the threat was more a goofy violent copypasta. Jamie pull that shit up.

>> No.22682507

>>22682505
It's a death threat. You have directly threatened Frank's life on here. You belong in jail or a mental ward