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[Anonymous No.22678324]

Smug Warrior Prophet Edition.

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[Anonymous No.22678371]

Bakker is KING
>Filaments of blue incandescence, fanning out, glittering with unearthly beauty, burning limbs to cinders, bursting torsos, immolating men in their saddles. Amid the shrieks and wails, the rumble of hooves, the thunder of men howling “The God wills it!” Gotian was pitched breakneck from the charred remnants of his horse. Biaxi Scoulas, his leg burnt to a stump, toppled and was trampled to pulp by those pounding after him. The knight immediately before Cutias Sarcellus exploded, and sent a knife whistling through his windpipe. The First Knight Commander collapsed, slapped face first onto the ground. Death came swirling down. Brains boiled in skulls. Teeth snapped. Hundreds fell in the first thirty seconds. Hundreds more in the second. Scorching light materialized everywhere, like the cracks that dizzy glass. And still the Shrial Knights whipped their horses forward, leaping the smouldering ruin of their brothers, racing one another to their doom, thousands of them, howling, howling. The scrub and grasses ignited. Oily smoke bloomed skyward, drawn toward the Cishaurim by the wind. Then a lone rider, a young adept, swept up to one of the sorcerer-priests—and took his head. When the nearest turned his sockets to regard him, only the boy’s horse erupted in flame. The young knight tumbled and continued running, his cries shrill, his dead father’s Chorae bound to the palm of his hand. Only then did the Cishaurim realize their mistake—their arrogance. For several heartbeats they hesitated … And a tide of burnt and bloody knights broke from the rolling smoke, among them Grandmaster Gotian, hauling the Gold Tusk on White, his Order’s sacred standard. In that final rush, hundreds more fell burning. But some didn’t, and the Cishaurim rent the earth, desperately trying to bring those with Chorae down. But it was too late—the raving knights were upon them. One tried to flee by stepping into the sky, only to be felled by a crossbow bolt bearing a Tear of God. The others were cut down where they stood.They were Cishaurim, Indara’s Waterbearers, and their death was more precious than the death of thousands. For an impossible moment, all was silent. The Shrial Knights, those few hundred who survived, began limping and staggering back to the battered ranks of their Inrithi brothers. Incheiri Gotian was among the last to reach safety, bearing a burnt youth slumped across his shoulders.

[Everybody Comes Back No.22678383]

>>22678324


https://alexbeyman.substack.com/p/everybody-comes-back

[Anonymous No.22678407]

NGL I'm glad I didn't listen to some of you and stuck with this series, the jump in quality from the original trilogy to the current trilogy (soon to be quadrilogy) can't be understated. Probably one of the most enjoyable series I've read in the last few years since The Expanse.
DA>GS>LB>IG>MS>RR is the only factually correct ranking and I will not hear otherwise.

[Anonymous No.22678413]

>>22678324
OK, so Im 2/3rds through Warrior Prophet and (spoilers) The Holy War just made it through the desert - but all I can think about is if Bakker is ever going to explain how Kellhus found water in the desert? Because it felt like a deus ex machina

[Anonymous No.22678416]

>>22678407
these get shilled a decent amount. and I'm asking this unironically - is this meant to be Young Adult?

[Anonymous No.22678426]

>>22678416
The first one especially yes but as the series goes on I'd say it sheds more and more of the YA traits and just becomes a solid space opera series.

[Anonymous No.22678467]

>>22678371
Should I read The Aspect-Emperor if I got spoiled that the Great Ordeal ultimately fails?

[Anonymous No.22678480]

>>22678467
and now you've just spoiled me on whatever that is :(

[Anonymous No.22678501]

>>22678480
He does it every thread. Its the price Bakker fags must pay for enjoying Bakker.

[Anonymous No.22678584]

What's the closest thing I can read that's like wheel of time?

[Anonymous No.22678639]

If the plot, setting, and characters are good but the prose is terrible, do you drop it? I would. If the writer doesn't care about the quality of word choice, sentence structure, descriptions, metaphors, etc. What is even the point of reading it? It may as well be a textbook. I suppose if English is your second or third language it's not that big of a deal, but I don't care for what nonhumans have to say on the matter. Prose is criminally underrated in this sphere. In truth, I feel a greater sense of magic reading things that have none but are rich in prose than I ever have with almost all of modern fantasy. RNS, there's more magic in a single Hans Christian Andersen fable than there is in everything I've read from Brandon Sanderson.

[Anonymous No.22678732]

>>22678639
prose is what the rest of /lit/ says when they're incapable of actually articulating a criticism

[Anonymous No.22678740]

>>22678639
Should good prose be noticeable in a story, or should it be so seamless that you forget you're even reading a book as the images unfold in your mind?

[Anonymous No.22678779]

>>22678639
>If the plot, setting, and characters are good but the prose is terrible, do you drop it?
Yes. The worse the prose is the less I can respect the author as a human being.

[Anonymous No.22678800]

>>22678740
I'm not sure the two things are in contention desu. Good prose can be both seamless and notable.

>>22678779
Based.

[Anonymous No.22678821]

>>22678324
The Riftwar series is all just slop right? Surely a series with 30 books are whatever the fuck can't be good. Are any of these actually worth reading? If not, how did he get away with churning out so much slop?

[Anonymous No.22678834]

I just finished Book of the Long Sun, why the FUCK did Silk and Hyacinth mutually fall madly in love after meeting for all of five minutes? It felt like I missed two or three chapters somewhere, or at least some kind of inflection point, but no they just accidentally meet briefly in the first volume then two whole volumes later suddenly they remember each other. I'm guessing there's some possession malarkey going on but I missed it. Did I miss an important detail, am I just retarded? (this is usually the case)

[Anonymous No.22678857]

>>22678821
I'd say about 60% good, The Empire Trilogy specifically is fantastic.
It does have a throughline with Pug but about half of the trilogies/sequences are their own self-contained stories. So it's a bit closer to the structure of discworld than a long epic fantasy series like WoT

[Anonymous No.22679010]

Has anyone read M Rothmus?

Nobody gets out alive. If the Communists don't kill you, the dreams will. A region of space only 75 light-years from Earth has a reputation for being haunted. But Cliff Hock doesn't believe in ghosts. Nightmares that come to life and kill people have a logical, scientific explanation. So, he joins forces with a mother-daughter team to find out what's
"really" going on. Cliff navigates a strange, terraformed planet with the anti-communist resistance as he searches for answers. Children are missing, communists are wrecking the economy, and everybody has the same Hat Man dream that can turn deadly. When Cliff discovers who sent for him, he realizes the gravity of the situation. Cliff isn't just battling a bunch of commies with access to advanced technology - he's on a dangerous mission that threatens the fabric of reality itself. Join Cliff as he discovers the truth behind this haunted region of space. Is there a logical, scientific explanation for recurring, deadly nightmares? Or is Cliff Hock's discovery of the Thunderclap part of something larger? Cliff Thunderclap is a standalone novel in the Cliff Hock Universe series. If you like sci-fi "whodunnit" mystery thrillers that are out-of-the-box, then the Cliff Hock series is for you. Start reading now.
Can Cliff Hock stop the dreams, or will the Communists get him first?

[Anonymous No.22679043]

>>22678416
>15 year old who beats everyone on everything and knows every martial art know to man and becomes the leader of a space army before his 18th birthday
Gee anon i don't know

[Anonymous No.22679047]

>>22679043
Sounds like the fictionalized version of Carlos Rex or Alexander. I hate when fantasy doesn't make the jump into the realm of impossibility and just keeps it tame like the real world.

[Anonymous No.22679098]

>>22678413
Just understood geography and how water would flow I always figured

[Anonymous No.22679112]

thoughts on this series? Need me a new series to sink my teeth into and having a recommendation from the duo behind the expanse seems like a good sign

[Anonymous No.22679117]

bros, i need a chink novel to read. other than reverend insanity and the gu worm one

[Anonymous No.22679123]

>>22678821
The first half is good, the series peaks in Serpentwar imo.
>Surely a series with 30 books are whatever the fuck can't be good.
It's divided in story arcs so you can stop and jump off after each arc the only one that ends on a cliffhanger is the Talon of the Silverhawk trilogy.
>Tfw no Queen elf mommy Aglaranna gf or tall goth magician Miranda gf

[Anonymous No.22679135]

>>22679098
so that means he couldve saved people from dehydration at any point

[Anonymous No.22679140]

Not sure if this is fantasy. The protagonist has special powers but isn’t a superhero so it isn’t capeshit. The situations are definitely based in reality, nothing extraordinary. Anyways, I recommend it if you can stomach a graphic novel by Anon.

[Anonymous No.22679150]

Do you guys know any books that could be described as a "surrealist fairytale nightmare"? Like Alice in Wonderland, preferably written sometime in past few decades.

[Anonymous No.22679154]

>>22679135
Not necessarily

[Anonymous No.22679155]

>>22679112
>>/lit/thread/22601218#p22601658
>>/lit/thread/22601218#p22601676

[Anonymous No.22679197]

>>22679112
got bored about 50% through book 1

[Anonymous No.22679205]

>>22678383

Wow. Thanks for this. I don't know what I was expecting, but that wasn't it.

[Anonymous No.22679227]

>>22679117
chink fantasy or scifi?

[Anonymous No.22679235]

>>22679227
fantasy is where it's at. already planning to read the legendary mechanic, so i don't need more scifi

[Anonymous No.22679238]

>>22679150
The Vorrh by B. Catling

[Anonymous No.22679319]

I want a story about a bunch of cops but in a fantasy setting trying to solve a mystery

[Anonymous No.22679321]

Currently reading picrel it's a womjommer of a horror fantasy novel, would read again I can already tell

[Anonymous No.22679331]

>>22679112
Absolutely dreadful. Only recommended for Name of the Wind fans.

[Anonymous No.22679380]

>>22679155
Interesting, thanks for the links
>>22679197
From what I've gathered from various places online is that book 2 is when the series finds its footing but I'd also have to take that with some level of salt since people are more willing to overlook flaws
>>22679331
Oh god ok nevermind, pack it up fellas thats all we needed to see.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22679394]

>>22678324
The Curse of Chalion, World of the Five Gods #1 - Lois McMaster Bujold (2001)

Cazaril, 35 years old, is bereft of all that he once had save the raggedy clothes he wears. Half his life has been in the military, though that ended when he was sold into slavery through betrayal. Having now escaped, he trudges towards where he spent time as a page for the provincial ruler. Though broken in body and spirit, he struggles on. Better days are soon to come for him. To his bewilderment, he finds himself having become a tutor to two teenage girls, a princess and her handmaiden. He becomes ever more involved in the battlefield that is courtly life.

This is a very character focused book, both in terms of introspection and what matters. The vast majority of that involves daily life at the palace and the court intrigue that entails. There's the occasional fight and some adventure, though it all results from the moves that players have made against each other. That means it's much more talking than anything else. Threats, demands, manipulation, bribes, accusations, and gossip abound. When those fail there's blackmail, beatings, and assassination to fall back upon. There's also some romance, a considerable amount of flirting, and a few unwanted advances. Despite the dark moments, it tends more towards being uplifting and triumphal by the end. I found this to be very refreshing and invigorating. I wouldn't call it a feel-good fantasy, but it's certainly closer to that than what I mostly read.

The Curse of Chalion has some historical inspiration and basis from the ending years of the Reconquista in the 15th century. One of the main differences is that their religion has five gods, who meddle in human affairs when possible. There are many religious customs and rituals to appease them. Various sorts of miracles are possible by the saints though they are mostly for the benefit of the god's agenda rather than anything else. However, death magic can potentially be used by anyone. If it's successful it takes both the life of the user and the target. There are theological conversations that discuss the particulars and implications of their religion. Aside from this there aren't really any other fantastical elements. It's the sort of book that could be called something like secondary world historical fantasy.

I ended up enjoying this more than anything else I've read this year and it's among the most I've enjoyed any fantasy novel. There's almost nothing with which I take any issue. It may not be exactly what I want, but it's close enough. One a different note, it's truly astounding and frustrating how different books can be from the same author. It'd a lot easier to be able to dismiss an author without any concerns if it could be assumed that all they write would be received in a similar way. If the rest in this setting are anywhere as pleasing as this was, then it'll definitely be among my favorite series.

Rating: 5/5

[Anonymous No.22679399]

>>22679394
/sffg/ ratings (21)
5 stars: 10
4 stars: 4
3 stars: 5
2 stars: 2

[Anonymous No.22679409]

>>22679394
Glad you liked it, it's one of my favorites. The rest of the series takes a very similar tone. In that it's not afraid to deal with dark subject matter, but it also never devolves into being grotesque.

[Anonymous No.22679416]

>>22679409
That's good to hear. I look forward to reading them relatively soon.

[Anonymous No.22679488]

Finished return to the Whorl. I think I know most of what was going on, but I have some questions about the timeline. That ending line though, man that hurt.
Also, is the dream projection not limited by time? When silk/horn went to green, they seemed to do it in realtime, but on Urth, they met with kid severian. Even with relativistic effects, that's still quite a while after typhon would have launched the long sun whorl.
I think I'm going to read Roadside Picnic next.
>>22678834
Remember the embryos? Silk is not an ordinary person by any means. He's got that magnetic leadership thing going on. Short sun implies that he's a clone of typhon/pas too. And yes, there is some Kypris possession going on too.
You're making me want to go reread long sun again, and see what I missed. Not a bad idea, it's super comfy.

[Anonymous No.22679611]

Can you guys recommend me some okay-ish webnovels to pass time? I'm traveling and I forgot to bring my kindle. I've read the usual ones (LOTM and RI)

[Anonymous No.22679627]

>>22679611
Go back and get your kindle

[Anonymous No.22679690]

>>22678416
Its one of those series that you need to skip a good 40% of each book for it to be good. The problem is there is no way of knowing what is dogshit or not on a first read through. The first book for example grinds the plot to a shrieking fucking stop to ape hunger games of all things.

The second book has the MC learn how to be one of the best fighters in the empire offscreen, mid paragraph. Just
>I was totally fucked....
>... but I wasn't teehee

[Anonymous No.22679697]

>>22679611
Practical Guide to Evil

[Anonymous No.22679753]

>>22679690
If you skip anything you probably shouldn't be reading whichever book it may be.

[Anonymous No.22679863]

>>22679205
No doubt you made the author happy. He links what what he writes here from time to time.

[Anonymous No.22680021]

>>22678324

[Anonymous No.22680032]

Just started Malazan. What am I in for /lit/bros ?

[Anonymous No.22680039]

Just started Prince of Nothing. What am I in for /lit/bros?

[Anonymous No.22680053]

>>22680039
Kellhus is just like me. Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor.

[Anonymous No.22680074]

>>22680039
The failure of the Great Ordeal, apparently.

[Anonymous No.22680128]

>>22679150
Faerie Tale by Raymond E. Feist.

[Anonymous No.22680167]

>>22679488
I forgot about Silk being a test tube super baby, that was pretty much spelled out with him being an aryan superman amongst a population of short swarthy people lol. Mucor gave me the impression the frozen embryo types were all kinda fucked up. It still seems odd to me though, it's like there was some kind of Tristan and Isolde-esqe love potion. Still kino though.

[Anonymous No.22680203]

>>22678407
Too bad pic rel is probably the worst book of the series after RR for me, it made Iron Gold look good in comparison.
>>22679112
It's pretty awful, I got somewhere to book 4 before I gave up on it. You can unironically skip 60% of each book and miss nothing, that's how bloated each book is.
>>22679611
Just download books from Libgen/7Lib and read on your phone bro. Try Practical Guide to Evil though, it's great for a webnovel.

[Anonymous No.22680243]

>>22679321
Cool cover.

[Anonymous No.22680282]

Is it just me or are all of Robert E. Howard’s historical/real-life weird tales hilariously based?

[Anonymous No.22680326]

>>22679394
>To his bewilderment, he finds himself having become a tutor to two teenage girls

[Anonymous No.22680341]

>>22680282
he cute

[Anonymous No.22680352]

>>22680282
>historical/real-life
examples? i didnt know he did non-fiction

[Anonymous No.22680357]

>>22680352
They’re all weird tales, but there’s one story where a guy accidentally gets clubbed in the head by a neolithic stone axe and relives the death of his previous life, an Aryan (blond hair blue eyed) warrior, at the hands of a bunch of manlets. He returns to the present, only to completely lose it and strangles one of his buddies who exhibits some of their phenotype.

[Anonymous No.22680360]

>>22680357
kek

[Anonymous No.22680420]

Just finished reading a few Crichton novels.
Any other good techno-thriller writers?

[Anonymous No.22680441]

>>22680282
I haven't done the stats but it feels like almost half of his stories are men's magaine Boy Adventure tales about sailors what box good. Everyone remembers Conan but what paid the bills was Sailor Steve Costigan or Sailor Dan Dennigan punching the shit out of ethnic villains.

[Anonymous No.22680450]

>>22680420
He didn't write many other "techno-thrillers" but the Manchurian Candidate is a classic that's had its plot stolen wholesale many times over. Another classic is the Jason Bourne saga, great espionage mixed with mind control possibly borrowed from the Manchurian Candidate. Aside from that I'm a sucker for Matthew Reilley and James Rollins, I'd call them elevated airport novels and I mean that in the kindest manner.

[Anonymous No.22680481]

>when the chanv hits just right

[Anonymous No.22680550]

>>22680420
Relic by Lincoln Child and Douglas Preston was really good. also Delta-V by Daniel Suarez

[Anonymous No.22680561]

I figure wuxia and xianxia are pretty much just fantasy, so I'll ask here: Does anyone know the origins of common aspects of the genre, like storage rings? Where'd the fucking things spring from?

[Anonymous No.22680569]

>>22680450
>Manchurian Candidate and Bourne
I've read Bourne before but not sure I'd describe it as a technothriller, I did like it though (and I'm a big fan of the Manchurian Candidate black and white movie) so I'll check out the others you mentioned, thanks anon.
When I think technothriller I think of the first Jurassic Park book and The Andromeda Strain more than anything else, but I know a lot of Tom Clancy works are considered part of it too.
>>22680550
I'll check these out too
I've seen Relic mentioned in a few lists for it (and have caught part of the movie) but I'd just thought it was a generic creature feature. I'll check both of these out though thanks also

[Anonymous No.22680586]

>>22680357
jej

[Anonymous No.22680744]

>>22680561
Gaming

[Anonymous No.22680858]

>>22679488
I'm pretty sure the answer to how Short Sun takes place during Severian's childhood is time dilation caused by near lightspeed travel.

[Anonymous No.22680879]

>>22680167
Hyacinth was also possessed by Kypris, the person who actually loved Typhon, unlike most of the rest of the gods.

[Anonymous No.22680880]

>>22680744
Seriously? What was the first novel to use it?

[Anonymous No.22680908]

>>22680880
Probably some xianxia webfic or old novel. You'll have to google search in MSM if you want a real answer.

[Anonymous No.22681020]

>>22680561
>>22680880
Tabletop pen and paper RPGs had that shit for ages. Pocket dimension storage items and so on. Should be present in various DnD content.

[Anonymous No.22681062]

[Anonymous No.22681217]

>>22681062
I like it. I still think about the footless bird from time to time.

[Anonymous No.22681224]

>>22681062
Why did he kill those children by cooking them alive bros...

[Anonymous No.22681238]

>>22679010
This is worst self promotion of a failed self published author that I've seen.

[Anonymous No.22681243]

>>22678324
Reverend Dogshit gets posted a lot on here, but this is unironically so much better.

[Anonymous No.22681269]

>>22681224
In other Chinese novels: the hero kills baddies to comprehend his dao.

RI: kills innocent children for benefits. Also he was refining gu - he was just following the recipe.

[Anonymous No.22681292]

>>22681269
>innocent children
They were his future enemies. Is it wrong to kill people who will try to kill you in the future?

[Anonymous No.22681396]

>>22681243
Interestingly enough dogshit is actually a part of Reverend Insanity's magical system. Collect the shit of a special kind of strong dog breed in order to feed an insect that gives him better luck.

[Anonymous No.22681408]

>>22681269
This really isn't accurate and its what I find annoying about RI
Almost every other xianxia already has an amoral murderhobo protagonist. RI just does the exact same thing as the rest of the genre whilst telling you its unique and evil.

[Anonymous No.22681522]

>>22681062
>>22681224
>>22681269
>>22681292
You niggers read slop like this and dare complain about female authors being bad.

[Anonymous No.22681533]

>>22678834
>why the FUCK did Silk and Hyacinth mutually fall madly in love after meeting for all of five minutes?
Gene Wolfe had a cuck fetish and a thing for muh whores with a heart of gold

[Anonymous No.22681536]

>>22679010
>, he joins forces with a mother-daughter team
Is there oyakodon?

[Anonymous No.22681537]

Is this a good book for a woman (not me) who likes YA fantasy like hunger games, throne of glass, game of thrones, etc?

[Anonymous No.22681542]

>>22679135
Only when they wandered close enough to a suitable source of groundwater, which I suppose is every few days or so.

[Anonymous No.22681545]

>>22680053
Also homosexual. Do not forget that part.

[Anonymous No.22681551]

>>22681522
Sounds based. Still not touching anything written by a w*man.

[Anonymous No.22681552]

>>22679010
>>22681536
I will now read your book

[Anonymous No.22681555]

>>22681537
No
>what is then
Recommend suicide.

[Anonymous No.22681565]

>>22681537
Red Rising. It's scifi, but if she likes Hunger Games I don't see a reason why she wouldn't enjoy that.

[Anonymous No.22681584]

>>22681408
>Almost every other xianxia already has an amoral murderhobo protagonist.
They don't, I don't understand why people keep saying it. Most have good hero protagonists who fight evil and save the world etc.

[Anonymous No.22681592]

>>22678324
>AI slop OP
This general has gone down the gutter I see

[Anonymous No.22681599]

>>22681592
>gone

[Anonymous No.22681605]

>>22681537
Just go with chalion, everyone likes chalion

[Anonymous No.22681606]

>>22681584
While they selfishly cause the death of billions.

[Anonymous No.22681609]

>>22681592
Face it, you aren't needed anymore. Pack up.

[Anonymous No.22681612]

>>22681592
It's just bakkerfag using Bing to make art of Second rapepocalypse

[Anonymous No.22681614]

>>22681592
it's kinda funny how every ai art piece is so fascist
dunno if its the people making them or the nature of the toy

[Anonymous No.22681660]

>>22681614
AI art so... fascist.

[Anonymous No.22681669]

>>22681660
Nice. What prompt did you use?

[Anonymous No.22681674]

>>22681669
>an image of a 32bits palette, marvel comics style, heavy dithering, 16mm movie extremely low quality grainy footage, by Frank Frazetta, viewed from the side, night, barbarian woman with an axe, ancient times

[Anonymous No.22681689]

>>22681674
>32bits palette
That's the stuff

[Anonymous No.22681733]

>>22681674
>>22681689
Will be trying this out later. Thank you, good sirs.

[Anonymous No.22681873]

>>22681606
That is maybe one or two novels, it literally does not happen

[Anonymous No.22681956]

>>22680282
>Grimly rode Suleyman among his Solaks. He wished to put as much distance as possible between himself and the scene of his first defeat, where the rotting bodies of thirty thousand Muhammadans reminded him of his crushed ambitions. Lord of western Asia he was; master of Europe he could never be. Those despised walls had saved the Western world from Moslem dominion, and Suleyman knew it. The rolling thunder of the Ottoman power re-echoed around the world, paling the glories of Persia and Mogul India. But in the West the yellow-haired Aryan barbarian stood unshaken. It was not written that the Turk should rule beyond the Danube.

[Anonymous No.22682092]

I'm reading pure schlock and enjoying it.

[Anonymous No.22682200]

>>22682092
I turned back to Volman.
“She says we’re in trouble, sir. She and her people are enemies of the… orcs.”
Volman made a face.
“First of all… Private. ‘Orc’ isn’t an official term. I’ve designated it a racial slur and I’d prefer to refer to them as ‘insurgents’ until we properly identify their culture. Slang and slurs start us off on the wrong foot with a people who may one day be our ally despite your captain’s best efforts to make them our present enemies.”

Based right-wing writers.

[Anonymous No.22682234]

>>22682200
Jesus christ wtf

[Anonymous No.22682260]

Do you know any good fantasy book that is not feminist? I am tired of hearing about strong and independent women. And how women can do all that men can do and better. I have to suffer that in real life. I wish to escape it in fantasy.

[Anonymous No.22682263]

>>22682260

I want realism.

[Anonymous No.22682299]

>>22682260
Reverend Insanity

[Anonymous No.22682313]

>>22679321
is this anything like throne of bones?
edgy, but not childish or comical?

[Anonymous No.22682317]

>>22682299

Google shows me some weeb japan loving crap? I mean actual fantasy written by whites for whites. Not anime novels.

[Anonymous No.22682339]

>>22679321
E-book?

[Anonymous No.22682350]

>>22681555
Incel moment

[Anonymous No.22682408]

the fat cocksucker actually dares?

[Anonymous No.22682439]

>>22682408
Is it happening?

[Anonymous No.22682502]

>>22682317
It's a very opposite of anime novel

[Anonymous No.22682533]

>>22682439
i immediately got that hopeful twinge too, but it's not happening. he probably got wind that people are shitting on him again for releasing a fucking ASOIAF cookbook instead of Winds and retaliated spitefully
>no, you don't get it, i'm actually diligently working on it!!!

[Anonymous No.22682535]

>>22678324

About halfway through Gardens of the Moon and it's still not clicking with me. Is Malazan worth it? How much of this first book is indicative of the rest of the series?

[Anonymous No.22682563]

If he's not going to finish ASOIAF, I want to see GRRM tackle xianxia

[Anonymous No.22682581]

>>22682563
he's absolutely not going to finish it. He'll die with a quarter of a novel written and nobody to pick up the pieces for him

[Anonymous No.22682645]

>>22678371
>Then forthwith came the Deathriders of the Blighted Plains, loyal and fierce retainers to their lord, Krob N'doth. Black were their snarling steeds and blacker still their hearts, though their blades did flourish with the red glimmer of blood spray as they fell furiously upon the rear ranks of (insert all of the above proper nouns). In one mighty hand did Krob N'doth carry a pitcher of wrought iron with which to quench his thirst in the midst of the slaughter with the blood rain which fell back to the gory earth three-fourths of a second whenever-so-often he swung Barzeshkath, the Blighted Blade through the necks of of men not wearing neck armor. So great and chaotic was the slaughter brought by the Deathriders that when Krob N'doth grew drunk upon the red vintage of his violent making he, with vision blurred as with the swells of a tempest, killed approximately 38% of his own forces. Not one of the Deathriders he slew raised arms against their battle-drunken lord, for his rampage was utterly epic and their deaths would technically contribute to his K/D ratio anyway. Such are the legends sung about that sorrowful day...

[Anonymous No.22682648]

>>22682563
Grrm cant into the finer nuances of cultivation.

[Anonymous No.22682794]

>>22682563
I can't wait to see you tackle a grave when your favorite celebrity dies.

[Anonymous No.22682804]

Sci-fi/fantasy with a middle eastern setting?
Don't say DVNE.

[Anonymous No.22682808]

>>22682645
OK, so Im 2/3rds through Warrior Prophet and (spoilers) The Holy War just made it through the desert - but all I can think about is if Bakker is ever going to explain how Kellhus found water in the desert? Because it felt like a deus ex machina

[Anonymous No.22682818]

>>22682645
Mr. Bakker, it's an honor to meet you!

[Anonymous No.22682832]

>>22682804
The Prince of Nothing.

[Anonymous No.22682837]

>>22678371
SWINGING PENDULOUS PHALLIS

[Anonymous No.22682984]

>>22682408
I don't know what the fuck he's doing their, but it doesn't look like writing a novel.

[Anonymous No.22683050]

>Got sucked back into reading webnovels on RR
It's Owari Da for me.

[Anonymous No.22683114]

picked up a paperback Yumi and the Nightmare Painter today lads should i read it

[Anonymous No.22683120]

I am writing about a guy having a robot waifu that treats him well and is subservient to all his needs. However, he doesn't can can't fall in love with the robot because it's not a real woman.

[Anonymous No.22683124]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.22683126]

>>22683120
>i'm writing wish fulfillment slop
many such cases!

[Anonymous No.22683132]

>>22683120
>writes wish fulfillment
>adds useless crap to ruin it

[Anonymous No.22683138]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

[Anonymous No.22683139]

>>22683050
What are you reading, bro? Finished last available chapter for Pale Lights and I can't find anything decent

[Anonymous No.22683141]

>>22683124
>>22683138
sorry i meant avoid

[Anonymous No.22683144]

>>22683120
the twilight zone episode did it better

[Anonymous No.22683146]

>>22683139
read the last orellen

[Anonymous No.22683149]

NaNoWriMo 10k word check. How are all our failed writers doing?

[Anonymous No.22683153]

>>22683149
i'm already done with nanowrimo but i did it on flist

[Anonymous No.22683156]

>>22683149
I don't write because writing sucks
I'd rather go to gym or read bakker

[Anonymous No.22683166]

>>22683156
>he doesn't dictate his drafts into a transcriber app while working out at the gym

[Anonymous No.22683172]

>>22683146
I did. I guess it was alright. I'm thinking about checking out lotm finally.

[Anonymous No.22683173]

>>22683156
>I'd rather go to gym or read bakker

[Anonymous No.22683178]

>>22683153
What the fuck is flist

>>22683156
Epic...

[Anonymous No.22683185]

>>22683172
>I'm thinking about checking out lotm finally.
The first volume is slow at the start and the prose isn't very good, but it really gets good as the story goes on.

[Anonymous No.22683192]

>>22683126
>>22683132
It's a message to all those that want wish fulfillment. That a perfect robot wouldn't make you happy. It's a coming of age story for incels.

[Anonymous No.22683198]

>>22683192
Stop writing preacy novels then
You fags complain al the time when women write feminist bs and strong women

[Anonymous No.22683200]

>>22683192
that's not the lesson those people need to learn

[Anonymous No.22683230]

>>22683139
I'm putting Pale Lights on hold; I can't seem to keep interest after chapter 19 for some reason, even though I really like PGtE. RE: Monarch and Peculiar Soul are worth a try. I'm currently reading Surviving the Succession, which is about some girl being transmigrated into the body of some webnovel Chink twink and has to avoid death by the main character. Would not recommend but it's a pretty fun, junk-food like read.

[Anonymous No.22683262]

>>22682535
The first book is considerably lower quality than the rest of the series. Unless you actually hate Gardens stick with it until at least the end of book 2.

[Anonymous No.22683282]

>>22683198
>>22683200
Sounds like someone feels personally attacked by this premise.

[Anonymous No.22683328]

>>22678639
You are correct.

[Anonymous No.22683330]

>>22682535
Malazan is a famous 'late clicker' since the style is so unusual. Book 2 or 3 tend to be what hooks people.

Erikson is a madman and his publisher even more so.

[Anonymous No.22683331]

Paperback for scifi, hardback for fantasy. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.22683336]

>>22683331
Neither. Kindle for everything. Imagine paying for words

[Anonymous No.22683340]

>>22683331
floppy paperback for everything. nobody actually enjoys reading hardcovers.

[Anonymous No.22683347]

>>22682260
Do you even know what feminism is? Because it definitely sound like you have no clue if you think that's what it is. It's not that difficult a concept, but when you have brainrot and are susceptible to mistaking dumb memes for truth, I can see where confusion might arise for genuinely retarded person.

[Anonymous No.22683350]

Imagine paying for anything other that which is necessary to minimally remain a part of society.

[Anonymous No.22683357]

>>22683331
Hardbacks are for idiots who like to waste money and look smarter than they are.

[Anonymous No.22683365]

>>22681537
Yes

[Anonymous No.22683375]

>>22683336
>buy hardback to put on my shelf
>read book on kindle

[Anonymous No.22683383]

>>22683331
Paperbacks are for the following

>reading outside the home
>marking/highlighting pages
>if the hardback is too expensive

simple as

[Anonymous No.22683460]

If I read Weird of the Whitewolf first would it spoil the rest of the Elric books in terms of quality for me? I heard it's the best among the bunch but I kind of want to read them in publication order

[Anonymous No.22683562]

>>22680561
Journey To The West or w/e classical chink story
Basically all xianxia is just ripping it off

[Anonymous No.22683585]

>>22682804
This book takes place on a planet that's basically the middle east. It was okay.

[Anonymous No.22683735]

>be me
>read "A Very Cliche Xianxia Harem Story"
>starts off good, typical harsh master, inheritance, home city destroyed stuff
>immediately drops any focus on actual cultivation afterwards
>no focus on cultivation or martial arts besides vague progression and jumps of multiple small realms at a time
>MC doesn't even get any new techniques, his basic bitch one just keeps magically evolving, which could be good, but the author doesn't even give any attention to how the White Venom Fist evolves
>no harem either - this is a positive but come the fuck on it's in the title
>it's just a focus on vague politics and constant bullshit

I've read better western cultivation WNs from authors who admit to not reading xianxia at all

I'm just gonna go re-read RMJI

[Anonymous No.22683738]

Best paperback novels to sell to soldiers?

[Anonymous No.22683745]

>>22683120
people regularly fall in love with completely fictitious pre-written characters, not to mention shit like AI replika girlfriends

[Anonymous No.22683756]

>>22683745
Escapism isn't healthy anon

[Anonymous No.22683770]

>>22683756
nothing you say will change reality, anon
the idea of a man not being able to love a robot because she's a robot is more farfetched than a sapient robot existing

[Anonymous No.22683771]

>>22678639
Prose doesn't matter at all, the only people who bring it up are midwits terrified of actually discussing the content of a book.

[Anonymous No.22683791]

>>22680561
it's almost always one of the following
>traditional chinese medicine/religion
>martial arts
>martial arts films
>earlier wuxia novels
>fantasy that made it into china
>videogames/ttrpgs

[Anonymous No.22683802]

>>22682200
Any real soldiers would react to this by inventing a slew of far worse slurs than "orc" faster than they could be designated as no-no words

[Anonymous No.22683814]

>>22683802
Volman is a Deep State agent who gets assassinated a few pages later by the same Private he's talking to there.
How based is that?

[Anonymous No.22683829]

>>22683814
very based

[Anonymous No.22683830]

>>22678821
It's not one continuous story, it's a bunch of discrete stories set in a shared setting. Each of the "sagas" is focused on a different time/place, though they often share characters. Just as an example, the Riftwar Saga is actually only 4 books, the first 4 he wrote in the setting in fact, and all the other ones are set after, I believe. At least that's the case for the ones I read, and I believe I tapped out after reading about 18 of them. Each of the sagas is focused on its own story, and has its own cast of characters. Some are more closely related to the characters and events of the Riftwar Saga than others.

For example, the Empire Trilogy is set during the Riftwar, but told from a different perspective in a different location, and we actually don't even see any of the characters from the Riftwar Saga in it, only hear about some of them offhand. Serpent War Saga is another 4 book series set several decades after the Riftwar Saga, with most of the original cast of Riftwar dead or very old (the ones who aren't effectively immortal, anyway). There's also Riftwar Legacy, which is set between Serpent War and Riftwar, but closer to Riftwar than Serpent War, then you have Conclave of Shadows, and still other stuff which is set even further removed from Riftwar and has even less to do with it directly, aside from featuring a major character from it, who's become like a universal constant in most of the stuff Feist writes.

[Anonymous No.22683842]

>>22683771
>the instrument by which the entirety of the book's content is conveyed to the reader doesn't matter at all
You're brown.

[Anonymous No.22683848]

>>22683842
You just know.

[Anonymous No.22683854]

All my goodreads friends are reading Dune right now.

[Anonymous No.22683865]

>>22683854
I just finished one of the books in my rotation, and was gonna replace the slot with Dune. It's a sign, anon. Let us begin.

[Anonymous No.22683866]

>>22683842
There has literally never been a meaningful discussion in these threads, or anywhere on /lit/ about prose. Every time pseuds bring up prose it's just to masturbate over how 'literary' they are being for talking about prose, they never say anything of substance and there is absolutely no real discussion.

[Anonymous No.22683869]

>>22680021
>Esmenet seething

[Anonymous No.22683871]

>>22683854
>"All my goodreads friends are reading Dune right now."
>Anon's words betrayed his unease.

[Anonymous No.22683874]

>>22683866
nobody finishes their story
nobody reads other people's story
nobody will make it here

[Anonymous No.22683883]

>>22678324
Hey anons, I'm looking for a book I read as a cheap paperback at my grandparents' house as a kid.

Here's everything I can remember:
It seems to have been written for a YA or child level of reading if I remember right.
It is fairly short even by standards of those quarter paperbacks or whatever denomination stores used to sell everywhere.
In the mission, a small team sets out, there is anywhere from two to four people in the team as I remember it.
There's a woman who has an alien pet/companion which has a shell it goes into to sleep sometimes. I believe the shell is described as sort of armadillo-like. I don't remember if it's attached to the alien or is a separate item that the alien needs and uses. The alien is small and fits in her arms I think.
When the alien goes into the shell it is in constant trance-like communication with the hivemind of its species - this is also the first time in my life I was introduced to the concept of a hivemind.
The crew is in a small ship of some sort tasked with doing something in either the asteroid belt or an asteroid field, I think it was the actual asteroid belt though.
When they get there, they are mining or testing the asteroid belt or something, they might be fixing some sort of machine, and they come across an alien spider type thing.
The alien spider uses magnetic metal cables with strong DC current for webs. The main guy grabs onto one at some point to get it off his leg and the DC current forces his hand shut over it so to stop his hand from getting cooked he has to set some laser tool he has to its sharpest most focused beam (it's some tool meant for something else) and cut the magnetic cable with it, which also burns his hand somewhat, and the cable section he cuts out still forces his hand to clamp around it through the magnetism or residual muscle cramps or something I think even though he stops getting shocked.
He also cuts the spider thing with it, which is described as a big bag-like creature that releases a puff of smoke or something when cut, then he swings it around in zero grav so it gets hit by a passing meteor.
I think he then rescues the armadillo alien girl and they get out of there.
I think some or all of them go into stasis which they call Deep Sleep in the book consistently.
Maybe the other guy gets hit by a micrometeorite or a malfunction of a ship's panel or the spider, I think they have to Deep Sleep him before the main conflict with the spider.
And I think the main guy might have to get the girl, or the alien, or something, out of the spider's "nest" of space junk, something like that.

I've asked about this before on /lit/, years ago, but I remembered some more details.

[Anonymous No.22683884]

>>22683874
I've already made it, I-
Wait I've had this exchange in /wg/ earlier this week

[Anonymous No.22683926]

>>22683854
>he has goodreads friends
lucky.

[Anonymous No.22683950]

>>22683926
How is it lucky? Just join the group in the OP, find someone to talk to, add them, be friends. Add them first even. The only reason you don't is because you haven't tried.

[Anonymous No.22684036]

>>22683149
I'm over 2k words behind but I think a lot of it was due to me not having a structure for my plot. I'm picking up steam as we speak.

[Anonymous No.22684074]

I don't get how anyone can bear nanowrimo anymore
the forums and the mods got SO fucking bad, the last time I even tried was probably 2015 or something

[Anonymous No.22684085]

What's stopping me from using a story I'm working on the past 3 months and submitting it to nanowrimo?

[Anonymous No.22684117]

>>22683883
just ask on Stack Overflow

[Anonymous No.22684122]

>>22683871
>Anon’s quotation betrayed his unease.

[Anonymous No.22684141]

>>22684117
They don't even answer software questions that I'm googling and other people have asked

[Anonymous No.22684163]

>>22684074
>forums
>mods
huh?

[Anonymous No.22684355]

>>22684163
presumably royalroad or some similar site

[Anonymous No.22684384]

>>22684163
>>22684355
no
nanowrimo

[Anonymous No.22684385]

Almost finished mother of learning and I want to read something similar with good progression, power fantasy and characters who are not made out of cardboard and change as the story progresses. I tried to read royalroads recommendations but it was dogshit most of the time.

[Anonymous No.22684389]

>>22683866
The waters get very muddy on the point of prose, but let me clear them up for you. When people say they value good prose, they mean that they don't want to read a book by someone who's obviously stupider than them. Let's back up a step. To some people, part of appreciating a book is appreciating the fact that it's the product of an intellect. That intellect has memories and lived experiences and opinions which are going to be reflected in the book. The book is a window into that intellect, the kind of window that can only be opened and shared through storytelling. Every word of the book reflects the way that intellect presents itself to you, and you're sitting down and taking the time to read it because you're interested in what they have to say. But if you were to sit down with someone for the purpose of interviewing them, and when you show up they're unwashed and caked in their own shit and they're drooling Crayola onto their naked self, you would probably feel like you don't care much about what they have to say anymore.

"Bad prose" is, to people who care, "careless prose." It's prose that makes you think that they, the author, don't care about what they're writing. It fucks with your own ability to care about what the person behind the word thinks.

[Anonymous No.22684408]

>>22684385
I have not read MoL
but I will shill to you Retribution Engine because I wrote it
but Engine IS progression and has 900k+ words with no nullification of progress through bullshit like realm ascension or slavery etc etc
MC is Gigachadette

[Anonymous No.22684446]

>>22683738
Glen Cook?

[Anonymous No.22684506]

>>22684385
this guy gets it

[Anonymous No.22684562]

>>22684385
My Longevity Simulation

[Anonymous No.22684589]

>>22683738
Matthew Reilly?

[Anonymous No.22684938]

>>22684385
>characters who are not made out of cardboard
>mol
pick one

[Anonymous No.22684948]

Feeling like an idiot here, but where do you guys get your stuff now that zlib is dead? Libgen doesn't have a fraction of what they did and they take forever to upload new books, and /bookz/ is fucking dead.

[Anonymous No.22684958]

>>22684948
Zlib still works for me
https://singlelogin.re/

[Anonymous No.22684971]

>>22684938
I thought they were well-fleshed out. Please explain.

[Anonymous No.22685008]

>>22684948
Mobilism for new books and Anna's archive for older ones.

[Anonymous No.22685011]

read Red River Seven and liked it well enough, the 2nd scifi work by Anthony Ryan
also rather liked his Slab City Blues stories

has anyone here read his shorter fantasy works, The Seven Swords series? not currently interested in the various big novels series

[Anonymous No.22685013]

>>22678413
That's not how Bakker writes Kelhus. Unfortunately it only gets more outlandish from there.

[Anonymous No.22685016]

>>22683883
bumping in hopes someone knows what it is
I know >reddit but maybe make a burner account and try posting this on r/whatsthatbook

[Anonymous No.22685023]

>>22685011
Didn't really care for RR7 myself.

[Anonymous No.22685037]

>>22678834
Silk is the genetically modified clone embryo of Typhon aka Pas
Hyacinth is prone to possession and, being a whore, is basically brain fucked by Kypris (who is Pas's lover) into being into Silk

It's quite simple

[Anonymous No.22685186]

>>22682408
Lol, he wasn't even pretending to write a book in the lower photo.

[Anonymous No.22685222]

>>22685016
Given the absolute state of 4chan, shitting on reddit feels like a midget calling a dwarf short, now. My biggest complaint with it now is its structure, which is why I have no interest in an account.

[Anonymous No.22685282]

What do you think is giving GRRM most trouble with Winds? I think it's the Bran chapters and what pieces of lore and history to reveal while he is in tree viewing mode. I also think The Others too, maybe going from grounded medieval drama to having the supernatural stuff taking more focus could be the proble. Something tells me we might get an extra book and it won't be seven in the end, Winds will no doubt cover stuff began in Criws but I can see him extending if Daenerys's war takes longer and thr new long night is after it

[Anonymous No.22685309]

>>22685282
I think it's a cocktail of writing himself into a knot with an obscene bloat of scope, GoT making him feel like his story has "closure" even if it was shit, and general loss of passion for the project. He's frustrated himself by the complexity of his own plot and no longer feels driven to complete it. There's no other explanation for why it's taken this long.

[Anonymous No.22685329]

>>22685282
I think he's discouraged by the hype generated by the show's popularity and the time it's already been since the last book and he feels that nothing he writes can ever deliver what the fans want. He's paralyzed by his own success.

[Anonymous No.22685514]

I'm going back to Pajarocu. Do you guys want anything?

[Anonymous No.22685719]

>>22678324
It was alright

[Anonymous No.22685735]

>>22685719
What's the spike dude's deal

[Anonymous No.22685811]

>>22685735
Three books in and I still have no idea. Hopefully the fourth and final book will answer. Right now we know "something" is sending him but we aren't sure what.

[Anonymous No.22685818]

I feel my IQ rising every page of Gardens of the Moon I read. My superior intelligence allows me to fully grasp every single proper noun and conflict instinctively.

[Anonymous No.22685846]

>>22685811
It's explicitly clear at the (godawful) ending of book 2 that he is made by a future AI as an attempt to get Jeebus' attention. We're shown an internal view of those AIs in the same book. What more are you looking for?

[Anonymous No.22685875]

Anyone got an epub of Virtuous Sons?
I'm not fuckin paying 15 bucks for barely 2000 pages.

[Anonymous No.22685952]

>>22685875
poor as fuck

[Anonymous No.22685970]

>>22684389
>"Bad prose" is, to people who care, "careless prose." It's prose that makes you think that they, the author, don't care about what they're writing. It fucks with your own ability to care about what the person behind the word thinks.
this

[Anonymous No.22685972]

>>22680032
Being extremely confused at first, reading thousands of pages, get decent stories and scenery.

[Anonymous No.22685986]

>start reading "a long way to a small, angry planet" by becky chambers
>was recommended as "blue collar spacers dig space lanes"
>a dozen pages in
>a lot of mention of things I consider largely irrelevant (decorations, patterns, plants) but the writing is decent
>a crewmember is referred to as "them"
>ok there's alien crewmates so that's fine let's see where it goes
>the protagonist refers to them as "xe" because "It was the only polite thing to do when no gender signifiers had been given"

Am I a fucking retard to be annoyed by this? In the context of story told this makes some sense, but I read sci fi to get away from real life and this shit just feels completely immersion breaking. Also the story told up until now seems to be some uplifting fucking tale of cohabitation when I signed up for hard labour in space.
inb4
>female writers
There's good ones and bad ones, like male writers.

[Anonymous No.22685992]

>>22685952
I have the money I'm just a slavfag and piracy is part of my culture
I might buy it later if I really like it but I WILL try before i buy
no need for help anyway I asked a friend and he had both epubs

[Anonymous No.22685997]

>>22685986
No, you're completely within your rights to be annoyed. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[Anonymous No.22686010]

Recommend me some sci-fi fantasy novel to read.. something like dune or the new sun trilogy.
>>22684948
I just search through Yandex instead of Google.

[Anonymous No.22686012]

>>22685997
Well it's an actual alien with some sort of mental condition (lol) that make them think of themselves as plural, so the crew call them "them". I would be fine with this, but the "xe" fucking broke me.

[Anonymous No.22686036]

>>22685986
Yeah that sounds lame. "They" has always been the grammatically correct way to address someone of indeterminate gender e.g. "If a customer asks you to jump, you ask them how high?" Neopronouns are an unnecessary farce.

[Anonymous No.22686065]

>>22686036
Agreed. Well, unto the next one, I have acquired through completely legal means a copy of Dark Run by a Mike Brooks, which looks more promising.

[Anonymous No.22686077]

>>22685818
I wonder if perhaps its not that my own intellect is superior in any way, but rather I'm willing to just accept Proper Nouns as presented without needing a detailed lecture on what exactly everything is. GotM seems thoroughly understandable, it just starts in media res but that's not that hard to understand? When people do certain things then I immediately just clock it as what that person can do.

If a battle is stated to be between the Malazan Empire and the city Pale then I immediately am caught up. I don't need to know the inciting incident until it becomes important, I know that the higher ups have declared war and the rank and file are executing it. If a wizard claims that they are a master of the Warren of Omptose Pharrack A Pack and then casts an ice spell I can immediately assume that whatever a warren is, its something magical in nature, as well as Pharrack A Pack being related to being able to cast ice magic. The only real difficulty is that the author is very willing to not use consistent names for characters, or just to describe characters by appearance or their accidental characteristics and not by name.

[Anonymous No.22686083]

The Olympian Affair releases tomorrow. I coincidentally have the day off work and hopefully I'll be able to read the whole thing straight through.

[Anonymous No.22686102]

>>22686012
Even if it's a literal hivemind, just "them" is fine. "Xe" is a meme pronoun made up by faggot r/hfy redditors.

[Anonymous No.22686139]

>>22686036
>>22686102
I always assume the unknown person is male.

[Anonymous No.22686152]

>>22686139
I prefer the opposite, but you do you, queen. Go off, sis.

[Anonymous No.22686166]

>Pronouns? Language? I'll fucking kill you you piece of shit

[Anonymous No.22686174]

>>22686152
You are just garbage, you like to think that everyone else is like you.

[Anonymous No.22686176]

>>22686174
Please don't respond to newfags. All you do is enable their behavior.

[Anonymous No.22686177]

>>22686174
Damn sis, calm down. What's the problem?

[Anonymous No.22686201]

>>22686010
>Recommend me some sci-fi fantasy novel to read..

You get to read Vinge for the first time you lucky sonofabitch

[Anonymous No.22686255]

>>22685719
I read Hyperion a bit over five years ago. I remember very little except the writing was really good and that the final viewpoint story was the worst one. I actually felt like they lowered in quality as they went.
Can someone refresh me on what happened before I go into Fall of Hyperion?

[Anonymous No.22686274]

>>22686255
I read Hyperion recently.
Writing is very nice, but everything else is extremely fucking meh

[Anonymous No.22686281]

>>22686255
In future times, when humans left the Earth And spread across the galaxy with speed They faced a threat that challenged all their worth The Ousters, who opposed the Hegemony’s creed

On Hyperion, a planet far and strange A group of seven pilgrims made their way To seek the Shrike, a creature that could change The course of time and space, or so they say

Each pilgrim had a reason to be there A story that connected them to fate They shared their tales with hope and with despair And wondered who among them was a traitor’s mate

The priest, the soldier, poet, scholar, spy The detective and the Templar, all in one They reached the Time Tombs where the Shrike did lie But what they found was only just begun

[Anonymous No.22686291]

>>22686255
>I actually felt like they lowered in quality as they went.
I'd more or less agree. I feel like it was a mistake to open with the story of the priest, because nothing in the series comes close to how good that was

[Anonymous No.22686301]

This nigga wrote 12 books just to say that Rape is bad

[Anonymous No.22686323]

>>22686301
a noble cause

[Anonymous No.22686561]

>>22686255
You'd be better off rereading Hyperion and pretending that there is no second book. It's that bad. The fall off is insane.

[Anonymous No.22686586]

>>22686010
Lord of Light

[Anonymous No.22686694]

>>22686301
Rape (female) is such a turn on for me
Am I sick in the head bros?

[Anonymous No.22686743]

>>22686694
No, you should read what women read.

[Anonymous No.22686775]

Is that a mobile friendly site/program that will let me generate either 2d plans or 3d prints (or even renders) of large city castles or keeps, or kingdoms? Style isn't entirely important as I mostly want it for reference material to help me design several major locations in my world/story. Normally I'd use inkarnate but I'm out a computer for a brief while so I need something a bit more mobile friendly because inkarnate really isnt, it's a chore to use on a phone.

[Anonymous No.22686878]

>>22686775

[Anonymous No.22686891]

>CLANG
>CLANG
>CLANG
CONFESS

[Anonymous No.22686923]

>>22686878
Not what you would call artistically gifted in respects to drawing. And uts getting hard to just keep notes on the layouts of the kingdom ideas I have

[Anonymous No.22686941]

>>22686891
when i actually want to discuss a book i just make a thread on /v/ or /tg/ because the discussion quality is so much better

[Anonymous No.22686963]

>>22686923
>Not what you would call artistically gifted in respects to drawing
Use a ruler

[Anonymous No.22687105]

>>22686891
I just come here to make myself feel better by seeing what a shitshow /lit/ is.

[Anonymous No.22687189]

>>22686941
>>the discussion quality is so much better
>/v/
you're bullshitting.
>/tg/
maybe.

[Anonymous No.22687202]

murtagh (new eragon book, first mainline one in 12 years) coming out tomorrow

[Anonymous No.22687215]

>>22678407
i bought the first five volumes, i enjoyed the first three but when i saw that the next trilogy is 10 years later where the MC is an exile AGAIN i dropped it

[Anonymous No.22687217]

>>22686941
>a thread on /v/
Normalfag central, they think abercrombie is an obscure fantasy author

[Anonymous No.22687232]

>>22687217
that's the point, no performative cynicism

[Anonymous No.22687233]

>>22687217
>Normalfag central
nothing is different here

[Anonymous No.22687266]

>>22687215
Stick with it, the current trilogy is Brown hitting his writing stride at a more consistent level imo

[Anonymous No.22687275]

>>22686941
>when i actually want to discuss a book i just make a thread on /v/
No you don't.
>or /tg/
This, I believe.

[Anonymous No.22687280]

>>22687217
At least people there actually enjoy reading.

[Anonymous No.22687295]

>>22684389
>To some people, part of appreciating a book is appreciating the fact that it's the product of an intellect.
Such people are utterly insufferable and incapable of having discussions that matter. To them everything is just about ego. What you have described here is a pseud for whom all that matters is the appearance of being intelligent, not the content of of the book.

And I'm tired of dealing with pretentious pseuds, this general was supposed to be haven from them.

[Anonymous No.22687298]

>>22687280
Casual readers enjoy reading. Shocking.

[Anonymous No.22687302]

>>22687298
>hardcore readers HATE reading >:)

[Anonymous No.22687348]

>>22687298
The fuck is the point of reading if you don't enjoy it?????

[Anonymous No.22687358]

>>22687298
just end the general here

[Anonymous No.22687373]

>>22686891
I'm only reading Malazan so I can inflate my epeen and flex my massive intellect ego to anons around the world

[Anonymous No.22687380]

>>22687298
See: This general.

[Anonymous No.22687393]

>>22687348
My brother in christ, you're on /lit/
We don't like reading here
It's like /v/ with videogames

[Anonymous No.22687395]

Not even children divide the world between people posturing hobbies and people enjoying those hobbies. You'all just want to get at something. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.22687403]

>>22678407
>IT'S ME, THE LIGHTBRINGER!

[Anonymous No.22687488]

>>22678407
probably a long shot asking here but what are some other series like this but more specifically the sequel series rather than the more YA trilogy

[Anonymous No.22687523]

>>22686891
I hate when characters are like
>I lost, I am so pathetic and weak waaaaah
>bully #1652965 said some random bs and the character makes it a personal attack to their fragile egos
Maybe I've read too much YA but I'm so tired of this shit. Is it too much to ask for a character that acts like an adult? Don't mention the usual, Robb, Bakker etc. People there are also a bunch of fucking retards (ESPECIALLY on Hobb's books)

[Anonymous No.22687567]

>>22686891
I only come here every few weeks to find obscure books to read. I used to come here every day, but I would legitimately get angry because you're all retarded and turn everything into a retarded generalization and then argue over ill-defined stereotypes and hearsay. The only ones who actually discuss things are the litRPG and wuxia bros but I've never read a web novel I didn't drop within the first chapter so I just leave them be.

[Anonymous No.22687574]

>>22687567
You faggots really need to go back to /a/.

[Anonymous No.22687577]

>>22684948
>Feeling like an idiot here, but where do you guys get your stuff now that zlib is dead? Libgen doesn't have a fraction of what they did and they take forever to upload new books, and /bookz/ is fucking dead.
not been reading too many books recently but
mobilism>anna's>libgen>irc almost never fails
and if it does there's usually a different site I can find by googling around

[Anonymous No.22687617]

I love books. If I don't love it, I don't read it.

[Anonymous No.22687628]

>>22687617
How do you know if you love it before you've read it?

[Anonymous No.22687651]

>>22678584
probably the wheel of time imo

[Anonymous No.22687653]

I wish Tolkien included Anfauglith and Angband on his map

[Anonymous No.22687701]

>>22683735
>I stepped in shit on purpose.
>Ugh, I was expecting dog shit, not human shit!

[Anonymous No.22687712]

I'm going to be honest I don't understand the kind of brain trauma one must suffer to willingly seekout and read chinkshit/progshit/shitrpgs...

[Anonymous No.22687737]

>>22684408
No offense, but after writing almost a million words of prose over two years, how does it feel to make $250/month off Patreon? I'm the kind of person who'd quit long before that point if I wasn't making bank. That's basically 1500 words per day for $3000 per year. .3 cents per word, aka 1/10th as much as bottom market rates.

[Anonymous No.22687747]

>>22687202
I hated that guy, yet it can't possibly be any worse than the original books.

[Anonymous No.22687748]

>>22683866
I will explain it so even you can understand
if the prose is bad it's not nice to read
like reading fanfiction written by a little kid

[Anonymous No.22687757]

>>22687701
I bought McDick's and got Wendy's

[Anonymous No.22687768]

>>22687737
I haven't been actively trying to monetize my writing for nearly as long as I have been publishing on RR. I also live in a poor country so it's not a bad amount. Most importantly, however, I didn't start writing with the goal of making money, the money is just a nice bonus.

[Anonymous No.22687776]

>>22687712
It's similar to finding something you love and relate to, like a game or hobby. "Oh, I like JRPGs, and this story is a lot like a JRPG..." "Oh, I like Dragonball Z. This is just like Dragonball Z!" "Oh, I like roguelikes. This story is a lot like a roguelike!" You can go down the line with whatever hobby, outlook, genre, or twist you want.
There's an underlying expectation toward fantasy and scifi writers to write things that are somehow original, and that originality is good, but what if they've gone too far? What if people just want to read Dragonball Z featuring a quippy high schooler instead of Goku?

[Anonymous No.22687829]

>>22687776
Not really

[Anonymous No.22687838]

>>22687829
As always, /sffg/ presents ironclad arguments.

[Anonymous No.22687840]

>>22678407
I'm going to miss Atlas, god damn if it wasn't awesome picturing there looming over the Senate like the sword of Damocles itself or crippling the Rim armada with a stolen face and an arm. Any good scifi books about operators and black ops?

[Anonymous No.22687842]

>>22687838
>sffg is one person
Idiot

[Anonymous No.22687847]

>>22687842
might as well be
you fags talk in circles and respond about as predictably

[Anonymous No.22687853]

>>22687842
>/sffg/ is more than one person
I've tricked another. Sorry pal. Read Reverend Insanity.

[Anonymous No.22687886]

>>22687853
Idiot

[Anonymous No.22687900]

Immortal killer move — Myriad Dragon!

Howl...

At once, myriad dragons flew in a sea of silvery scales, attacking the old man like a tidal wave.

After understanding the effect of the time path formation, Fang Yuan gave up on his strongest time path methods, he started to use other methods. In this aspect, Fang Yuan had many useful methods comparatively.

The old man snorted, showing no surprise on his face.

Before coming here, he had already made ample preparation, he knew about Fang Yuan’s myriad dragon killer move.

“Slippery eels, what can they do to me?” The old man stood arrogantly in the sky, instead of dodging, he watched as the myriad dragons approached him.

His verdant sun flame cloak was blazing, his entire body was covered, resembling a huge fireball.

The myriad dragons appeared before the old man, but they started to screech weirdly, the sword dragons were all drowsy as they randomly flew around, their ferocious attacks had been stopped.

When each sword dragon’s drunkenness got to a certain level, they would start to blaze up with a loud sound.

The sword dragons turned into a pile of flames before rapidly vanishing.

Looking at the field, the old man was unmoving while the myriad dragons burned to death. Even though there were countless dragons, the moment they got close to the old man, they died, they were of no threat to him.

“Immortal killer move verdant sun flame cloak!” Fang Yuan’s pupils shrunk, he finally saw the power of this move. It was both offensive and defensive, it was a counter to Fang Yuan’s myriad dragon killer move.

“Then let’s try Luo Po seal.” Fang Yuan thought to himself.

He had already used familiar face to disguise as a sword dragon, he blended into the army of dragons, getting closer to the old man.

Next, he pretended to be drunk as he got closer and unleashed Luo Po seal.

Fang Yuan got exposed when the killer move had just activated, Luo Po seal’s aura was too great, it could not be hidden.

The old man’s gaze shot like lightning as he charged at Fang Yuan without fearing Luo Po seal.

Boom boom boom!

The old man attacked Fang Yuan in a frenzy but reverse flow protection seal kept him safe.

Fang Yuan did not speak, he endured the old man’s attacks until Luo Po seal was finally ready to strike.

The old man was on guard now, the situation was not good for Fang Yuan. Eventually, he barely managed to use Luo Po seal, but it scraped past the old man’s shoulder, only half landing!

The old man immediately felt a sense of emptiness in his heart, at the same time, the blazing cloak on his back weakened by forty percent!

“This move is amazing, but it cannot break my verdant sun flame cloak!” The old man laughed loudly as he retreated, using methods to heal himself.

[Anonymous No.22687958]

>>22687900
I'm sorry, but I just cannot accept real human beings with functioning brains willingly read this garbage.

[Anonymous No.22687994]

>>22687958
Yeah, I really don't get it. By comparison, even the sloppiest slop on RR is high literature.

[Anonymous No.22688004]

>>22679321
Ah that one is excellent, The Throne of Bones is another fucking great as well.

[Anonymous No.22688011]

Shh, Fang Yuan is sleeping

[Anonymous No.22688019]

>>22687900
Nicky's in the corner
With a black coat on
Running from a bad home
With some cat inside

Now where did you find her
Among the neon lights
That haunt the streets outside
She said, stay with me

Beautiful girl (stay with me)
Beautiful girl (stay with me)
She wanna go home

From doorway to doorway
Street corner to corner
With the neon ghosts in the city
And she says

Stay with me
Stay with me
Stay with me
Stay with me

(Stay with me, stay with me)

She's so scared
So very frightened
Anything could happen
Right here tonight

Beautiful girl (stay with me)
Beautiful girl (stay with me)
She wanna go home

Stay with me (beautiful girl)
Stay with me (beautiful girl)
Stay with me (beautiful girl)
Stay with me (beautiful girl)

[Anonymous No.22688057]

Will /sffg/ ever recover?

[Anonymous No.22688072]

>>22688057
from what

[Anonymous No.22688172]

>>22687712
>I'm going to be honest I don't understand the kind of brain trauma one must suffer to willingly seekout and read nebula/hugo/sjwfeminist female pozzed shit...

[Anonymous No.22688212]

>>22688172
>"The ONLY two choices are wish fulfillment chinkslop for chuds or pozzed shit for lefties"
Retard

[Anonymous No.22688216]

>>22686301
Did I miss something? When its been a while since I last read book of the short sun but I got the impression from him that rape is based if you can get away with it.

[Anonymous No.22688243]

>>22687295
Everything is ego. There is no shared experience without ego. You cannot interpret someone's telling of experience without your ego interfacing with their ego. If you don't accept that and look at a book as purely a sequence of scenes for you to imagine in order for no reason in particular, you're either stupid and ignorant or a true master of zen.

[Anonymous No.22688277]

>>22688212
>he thinks Reverend Insanity is wish fulfillment chinkslop for chuds

[Anonymous No.22688279]

>>22688072
bakkerism

[Anonymous No.22688433]

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>>22688429