"Start with the Greeks" = grooming

[Anonymous No.22660663]

It's time to put "start with the Greeks" to rest...

[Anonymous No.22660664]

>>22660663
Pederasty is based tho

[Anonymous No.22660665]

OP is a gay homo obsessed with homosexuality

[Anonymous No.22660738]

>>22660663
That Schop quote is absolutely spot on. I can’t recall a single Greek philosopher that has anything positive to say about a woman and yet I can think of many who take time to discuss boy loving. Where the philosophers just like the gay elite of Athens, or was everyone that gay back then?

[Anonymous No.22660757]

>>22660738
we NEED to RETVRN

[Anonymous No.22660783]

>>22660663
What is wrong with grooming?

[Anonymous No.22660802]

>>22660738
Has misogyny been a front for faggots this entire time?

[Anonymous No.22660808]

>>22660802
Considering how big simps straggots become why not?

[Anonymous No.22660811]

>>22660808
>big simps straggots
w-what?

[Anonymous No.22660816]

>>22660802
The old epithet for a homosexual was 'woman hater'

[Anonymous No.22660817]

>>22660802
there hasn't been a more homosexual society than modern western society which is also the most effeminated society of history, it's the opposite, the meme of "gay greeks" is just projection of modern westgroids who are so sex obsessed due to being pussy whipped subhumans they constantly project this backwards

[Anonymous No.22660835]

>>22660817
>the meme of "gay greeks" is just projection of modern westgroids
fascinating

[Anonymous No.22660846]

>>22660835
nice cherrypicking bioleninist clown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbOKIsMuNWU

[Anonymous No.22660851]

>>22660811
Today woman can ruin and kill man like she wants and nothing will happen her because straightoid coomer simps will gather to beg for her pussy

[Anonymous No.22660859]

>>22660802
Current western society is degenerate because its faggots try to emulate women (probably because they were all raised by single moms and have no masculine frame of reference). Faggots in the past valued strength and thus despised the female race.

[Anonymous No.22660867]

>>22660846
>LGBTQ+
A label created by jewish women to subverted heroic modes of male homosexuality. It's obvious that such concept would be alien to the greeks.

[Anonymous No.22660871]

>>22660867
*subvert

[Anonymous No.22660880]

>>22660867
this but unironically. LGBTQ benefits disproportionally women and men who want to be women but leaves homo/bi men in only slightly better position they once were

[Anonymous No.22660896]

>>22660663
>>22660664
Pederasty is extremely based and redpilled and makes feminists and kikes seethe. It is the exact opposite of degenerate. We should adopt loving man/boy relationships in protest of feminism and to promote healthy male bonding. You can read more about man/boy love here:
https://greek-love.com
https://www.nambla.org/

If you still don't understand pederasty, just watch these videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B91J9KZ2WUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4400B7Azc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-jtl3uHgms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fJE6J9uRec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yG9jt6cDSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZhIXdbmQTg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeOPmv8Hj6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhULtoEZZyY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXO-85ZszyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2UXd1zpmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXvLIw8IciQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp-oxU58G90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu2k9rByCmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsSuyQqdVDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPR4FEcyKs0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcDu9mLZVJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1_1ChOn8co
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQnyIo2fxHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b40r5jPafw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz_smMu6Hdk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEKW1x8rzSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AT_jumEu_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6H8N3fCETc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akim--bLU94

[Anonymous No.22660901]

>>22660835
Isn’t it possible that just like today, the upper classes, the “artists” and the academics were all gay, but the average person still thought it was disgusting? It always seems like throughout history, the landed elite end up becoming increasingly gay over time until a collapse.

[Anonymous No.22660905]

>>22660663
I like how it doesn‘t even bother to reference anything but Plato

[Anonymous No.22660906]

>>22660880
this. we homosexuals need to free ourselves from female influence

[Anonymous No.22660917]

>>22660901
>Isn’t it possible that just like today, the upper classes, the “artists” and the academics were all gay, but the average person still thought it was disgusting?
The new conservative cope now that populism is in vogue. Meanwhile a hundred years ago the discourse was that the working classes were degenerate and that sodomy spread infectiously among peasants, factory workers and sailors. I also like the idea that the ancient Greek nobility were somehow comparable to decadent bourgeois despite being physically superior warrior gods responsible for the creation of Western culture.

[Anonymous No.22660942]

>>22660917
>The new conservative cope now that populism is in vogue
This. Tradists constantly alternate between portraying themselves as well bred elites and commoners speaking truth to power. Glad I'm not the only one disgusted by such vapid sophistry.

[Anonymous No.22660962]

>>22660663
Metatron deboonked this. I used to be like you, too, and believed Mediterraneans to be homosexual but I grew up and got laid

[Anonymous No.22660968]

>>22660851
I'm not gay myself but I concur

[Anonymous No.22660971]

>>22660962
>Metatron deboonked this
Can someone explain why on this topic I'm supposed to defer to some retarded youtuber instead of all the "based and redpilled" authors /pol/ recommends (but does not read), all of whom maintain that the Greeks were fags? Perhaps your whole worldview is a giant cope?

[Anonymous No.22660981]

>>22660971
this little bioleninist is really losing it, he even began screeching /pol/ as per usual
maybe try to stop arguing with strawmen in your head and get rid of that extra chromosome

[Anonymous No.22660988]

>>22660981
What?

[Anonymous No.22660993]

>>22660981
meds, schizo

[Anonymous No.22661017]

>>22660988
>I was almost forced to actually address the argument luckily I can screech against the /pol/ boogeyman and pretend my imaginary understanding of /pol/ represents the entirety of right wing monolithic consensus on the matter

[Anonymous No.22661022]

>>22660835
>putting in this much effort to prove the Greeks were boylovers
Nah nigga ur jewish fr

[Anonymous No.22661037]

>>22660971
Is this "/pol/" in the thread with us right now?
Go back, you gay nigger

[Anonymous No.22661051]

>>22660942
Why are you making up fictional people in your head?

[Anonymous No.22661057]

>>22661017
>>22661037
See how he recoils... "I've been found out..."

[Anonymous No.22661069]

>>22661017
>actually address the argument
What argument

[Anonymous No.22661083]

[Anonymous No.22661095]

>>22661022

[Anonymous No.22661108]

>>22661051
Huh? Guess I found a tradtranny in here, of all places

[Anonymous No.22661110]

[Anonymous No.22661122]

>>22660663
No way Trump really said that

[Anonymous No.22661125]

>>22661122
He did

[Anonymous No.22661126]

>>22661125
damn thats crazy

[Anonymous No.22661165]

>>22660663
i was a cute kid with a fat butt in school cause of all the football i played. some weirdo would definitely have groomed me if they had the chance. fortunately they didn't succeed cause i'm a khv now.

[Anonymous No.22661179]

>>22660738
Men are for love and romance. Women are brainless wombs for having babies.

[Anonymous No.22661352]

>>22661110
fukken saved
/pol/chuds on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.22661353]

>>22661352
>>22661179
what's wrong with being gay? be proud

[Anonymous No.22661483]

>>22660835
Did you even watch the Metatron video? He's talking about gay in the modern conventional internet sense of ancient Greece being a brand-friendly LBTQ+ utopia, a notion that is easily disproven, as he does in the video

When I call the Greeks gay, I mean that they are intensely homosexual men who were really into man-boy live, which they were.

[Anonymous No.22661485]

>>22661483
whoops meant to respond to
>>22660846

[Anonymous No.22661498]

>>22660663
>>22661483
you sound like a gay desperate not to seem left wing for some reason
why not just move to thailand and enjoy yourself or become a gay studies scholar? no one gives a fuck about how obsessed you are with gays or gayness

[Anonymous No.22661613]

>>22661498
it's okay to be gay

[Anonymous No.22661619]

>>22661613
OP, move to Pattaya and have the time of your life
I'm gay and you're tripping out. You seem EXTREMELY high strung

[Anonymous No.22661639]

>>22660901
>>22660917
Very good to call out the false equivalency. Elites in an aristocratic society are *not* comparable to modern pseudo-elites whose wealth comes from commerce and speculation. They provide something of value to the polis in the form of security and power, current elites just ride massive unsustainable economic surplus and the ability of industrial production to provide endless consumerist trash, nothing prosocial about their role. If elites are serving their actual purpose then it is perfectly acceptable and in fact necessary that they should be allowed to do things that are taboo for the common man, because if you suppress that then you will drive away the actually exceptional, great-souled men who are independent-minded and non-risk-averse enough to lead a society. Solon and Hadrian were not decadent elites in periods of decline, they were highly competent and in fact did much to both cement the social order/hierarchy and to tame the excesses of the petty elites who ventured into damaging abuses of power.

Basically my point is exceptional people should be, and traditionally were, given exceptional privileges - and Greece's decentralized political situation and hyper-competitive culture bred an exceptional number of exceptional men. Not to mention the fact the the erastes-eromenos relationship was a sort of elite coming-of-age initiation which actively helped propagate and pass down values and expertise conducive to leadership.

[Anonymous No.22661644]

>>22661639
>Basically my point is exceptional people should be, and traditionally were, given exceptional privileges
tips fedora to a dear gentlesir

[Anonymous No.22661647]

>>22660896
Holy shit do you just have this ready to go on a Sunday night?

[Anonymous No.22661649]

>>22660896
>We should adopt loving man/boy relationships
jannies mods

[Anonymous No.22661671]

>>22660663
I bought literal all the books from the "start with the Greeks" last. i haven't started reading them yet since I haven't finished, "How to Read a Book" yet.

[Anonymous No.22661686]

>>22661110
Evola is in no way approving of homosexuality

[Anonymous No.22661689]

>>22660663
>>22660663
Why do they say start with the Greeks though?

I don’t understand

[Anonymous No.22661690]

>>22660663
>>22661110
Hellenophilia really is a disease

[Anonymous No.22661695]

>>22661690
samefag

[Anonymous No.22661712]

>>22661644
It’s not a wacky quirky edgelord concept, it’s part of the foundation of inherited wisdom that allowed human societies to be great, both politically and culturally. There’s never been a successful society that did not acknowledge such a principle, implicitly or otherwise. It only seems alien to you because your worldview is informed by a book of laws divorced from the context of its original conception and application (and btw those laws explicitly defined an elite who had special privileges - special restrictions as well, but that only further reinforces the impression of difference) and elevated to philosophical-metaphysical Law in a sense that was not even really imagined or conceived at that time. I’d bet you the Ark itself that the average priest in Israel did not really believe all those rules applied to him in the same way, and understood on some level that they were tools of social control - back then hierarchy was so natural that such distinctions didn’t need to be etched in stone, the awareness permeated society.

[Anonymous No.22661719]

>>22661712
I'm not religious you fucking faggot gentle sir
did you even go to university? fucking embarrassing use of adjectives and passive tenses

[Anonymous No.22661742]

>>22661719
>I'm not religious
Then what is your objection to the concept of elitism as it has manifested throughout human history?

Passive voice* is the term you're looking for by the way. Tense is used to refer to the temporality and completion status of an action described by a verb. Usually this is dealt with in elementary school, not university. Or are you not a native English speaker? If so I don't have any spare change on me, sorry.

[Anonymous No.22661746]

>>22661742
>doesn't even understand the difference between voice and tense
kek. did you or did you not go to university lil gay boy?

[Anonymous No.22661760]

>>22660663
Any intelligent person will look past the gayness and find the source for all fair humanising culture in Greece. It sets up an ideal against all petty utilitarianism and directs the course of the rest of our intellectual lives.

[Anonymous No.22661763]

>>22661746
You could literally find out that no such thing exists in English (the language which has conquered yours to the extent that you had to learn it, however badly, to make your shitty substanceless posts understood) with a 2 second google search, but if you want to continue embarrassing yourself that's ok too.

[Anonymous No.22661764]

>>22661763
>tenses don't exist in english
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
FUCKING UNEDUCATED CLOWN
FUCKING KEK and SCREENCAP'd

[Anonymous No.22661768]

>>22661764
I literally described what a tense is in my previous post. I assumed you could tell from the obvious context that I was saying a "passive tense" does not exist, not that the entire concept of tenses does not exist.

Any thoughts on the actual topic of discussion?

[Anonymous No.22661772]

>>22661768
>passive tenses [do] not exist
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHa
do you not speak any other languages? is this a fucking joke
>n-no u just misunderstood me
kek uneducated secondary school clown
fag anglo or germoid? or even worse, a retarded gay americlown who dares to post during eurohours?

[Anonymous No.22661825]

>>22660663
Start with the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.22661839]

>>22661110
It's okay when we do it

[Anonymous No.22662360]

>>22661483
>intensely homosexual
wrong, as disproved by the video, you keep using modern words which have a far different scope from ancient Greek society purely for ideological/herd-brained related reasons, and you say it yourself, the main element which can lead to some discussion is their ephebophilia, while when bioleninist mutants like you peddle the word 'homosexuality' in order to reinforce the current moral firmware you are bred to follow, you are implying adult male on male sex was normal or accepted
the very nature of this relation very much depending on the young boy having NOT developed yet full male sexual characteristics i.e full body hair but still retaining undifferentiated feminine qualities in itself argues against attraction for the fully developed male, they weren't into grown ass hairy men, we are closer to something like pedophilia
and even regarding this element of paideia, the carnal act was not the original raison d'etre, your average citizen wouldn't approve of their kids being bummed(in the thighs mostly) by some older man simply for the pleasure of the latter, it was supposed to be an institution that made your young boy into a respectable citizen, the carnal act in itself, which is merely an unnatural imitation of the act of penetration of the female, hardly being praised in of itself
let's see you argue how Greeks of all people with their mentality would philosophically argue about how putting your penis where poop comes out is in line with the will of the gods and reality

[Anonymous No.22662529]

>>22662360
>your average citizen wouldn't approve of their kids being bummed(in the thighs mostly) by some older man simply for the pleasure of the latter, it was supposed to be an institution that made your young boy into a respectable citizen, the carnal act in itself, which is merely an unnatural imitation of the act of penetration of the female, hardly being praised in of itself
reread Symposium. people say that lovers win universal praise for 'winning' beloveds, while beloveds earn scorn for submitting too easily to the affections of an older suitor. it's not the homosexuality itself. it's a sexual ethic like that which governs men and women. a key that opens many locks is good, a lock that opens to many keys is bad.

[Anonymous No.22662900]

>>22661639
Sounds like you are a massive homo who has a lot of time on their hands. You will notice that no one who is this obsessed with bringing back the “aristocratic elite” can pass a physiognomy check…

[Anonymous No.22663274]

threads like these demonstrate that 4chan is absolutely crawling with faggots

[Anonymous No.22663285]

>>22661110
There are zero right-wingers in that image.

[Anonymous No.22663300]

>>22663285
Exactly. Most of those guys explicitly virtue signaled that they were not right wing.

[Anonymous No.22663322]

Ancient Greece is the source of everything that is wrong with the modern world.
>inb4 seething "trads"
At the time scale of eternity, idolizing Ancient Greece is the same as idolizing America in the 50s.

[Anonymous No.22663353]

>>22663322
>those digits

[Anonymous No.22663506]

>>22660663
Start with the Greeks straightfag

[Anonymous No.22663571]

>>22663322
Ancient Greece is more or less the sole root of the European poetic tradition. This is a literature board. Anyone who dismisses them does not belong here. If you want to RETVRN to hunter-gatherer society, fine, but take your ooga booga caveman larp (posted from my iphone btw!) to >>>/out/.

[Anonymous No.22663630]

>>22663571
>Noooooo you can’t express ideas I don’t like

[Anonymous No.22663656]

>>22663571
People in the far distant past had more advanced technology that we do now so your quip doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.22663680]

>>22663630
Well, you don't have to listen to me, you're free to continue to embarrass yourself and undermine any intelligent person who might agree with you by representing their point of view so ineptly. I'm simply trying to politely point out to you that you have, intellectually speaking, shit your pants in public. What you do with that information is up to you.

You should take a page out of >>22663656's book, the clown/jester/village idiot is at least entertaining and draws a crowd; no one wants to be around the pants-shitter.

[Anonymous No.22663690]

>>22663680
Only redditors make posts like this.

[Anonymous No.22663744]

>>22663680
Very effeminate post, which is expected from someone who can’t handle criticism of their heroes…

[Anonymous No.22663777]

>>22663690
>>22663744
>mad cuz a nigga be spittin with refined elocution and shit
Yeah I forgot that speaking like a literate person is a faux pas on the literature board, my bad.

[Anonymous No.22663853]

>>22663777
>refined elocution
>"ur dumb me intelligent", with a million adverbs

[Anonymous No.22663878]

>>22663853
kek
>I'm simply trying to politely point out to you that you have
fucking embarrassing redditor speak

[Anonymous No.22663954]

>>22663777
You clearly have a MENSA level iq

[Anonymous No.22664088]

>>22663954
Did not make any claim whatsoever implying this, you are projecting your own anxieties.

>>22663853
>>22663878
Nah son my style is immaculate. I'm loquaciously flexing on these hoes. As for the substance, there was none in the post I was replying to, just whining about tone. Feel free to make a point if you have one. Until then I will merely reiterate: anti-Greek is anti-literature. People who obviously have zero regard for literature and culture and just want an outlet for their vulgar, received ideology are sorely in need of a good gatekeeping.

[Anonymous No.22664090]

>>22664088
>gatekeeping
back to plebbit

[Anonymous No.22664097]

>>22664088
Can it be considered gatekeeping if everyone just laughs at your attempt and calls you a fag?

[Anonymous No.22664100]

>>22664088
greece is generally cool but you're acting like a total autist right now bro

[Anonymous No.22664150]

>>22664097
You aren't laughing! You are mad! Not me though. I'm chuckling in a very cool and detached way.

But yeah you're right, it's been over for a while. Can't gatekeep when you people already got your dirty little hands on the keys, whatever. Just still catches me by surprise sometimes. Guess I should start pretending to believe in le epic hyperborean finno-korean war hilarious memes to fit in.

>>22664100
oh yeah fuck sorry bro my bad i used the shift key bro yeah greece is goated af fr fr

[Anonymous No.22664158]

>Reads the Wikipedia page
>Not my beloved Prussians, this can't be...

[Anonymous No.22664160]

>>22664150
AUTISM ALERT
BEEP BEEP BEEP

[Anonymous No.22664179]

>>22664150
No one cares what you do

[Anonymous No.22664230]

>>22664160
>>22664179
Hmm, not very polite, in fact I detect a hint of aggression. Shame on you anons, this sort of behavior would NOT fly in the symposium. I think hopelessly chasing after the inferior love of women has made you bitter. Cmon, let’s get wasted and recite poetry and play some cottabus, loser has to give up his thighs for the homies.

[Anonymous No.22664244]

>>22664230
A minute ago you were the gatekeeper, now you want an open dialogue after everyone laughed at you?

[Anonymous No.22664250]

>>22660835
People giving you (You)’s and not realizing picrel is irony are actual brainlets holy shit

[Anonymous No.22664266]

>>22664244
Yeah anon, you really muscled me into submission. You’re a big guy. Go ahead and enter my “gates”, iykwim.

[Anonymous No.22664270]

Pederasty had nothing to do with sex, anyone who got gay with it was degen

[Anonymous No.22664277]

>start with the Greeks
>start noticing twinks
how do I stop this?

[Anonymous No.22664290]

>>22664250
What's ironic is that you are gayer than any Ancient Greek and you weren't going to read them anyway.

[Anonymous No.22665110]

>>22660835
All this is gay for the actual standars

[Anonymous No.22665203]

>>22664270
pais (boy) + eros (sexual love) = not sexual

[Anonymous No.22665294]

>>22660663
It's funny seeing online trad people come to understand female behavior, make a full circle, and re-invent from first principles 'male bonding with Greek characteristics'. I would bet sentiments like >>22661110 will become more prevalent, particularly what Ludovici said about people like Philippe (Louis XIV's brother).

[Anonymous No.22665504]

>>22663285
>>22663300
THIS. There are no intellectual right wingers in the world.

[Anonymous No.22665916]

>>22660663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNAT4ybsz_E&t=384s&ab_channel=LeatherApronClub
GREEKS WERE NOT FAGS!!!!

[Anonymous No.22665918]

>>22660663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QVh3kj7CjA&t=3410s&ab_channel=LeatherApronClub
ROMANS WERE NOT FAGS!!!!

[Anonymous No.22665935]

>>22665504
Literally every author before the 19th century was right wing and would have disagreed with homosex

[Anonymous No.22667292]

>>22661165
>i'm a khv now

>Koi herpesvirus (KHV), also known as Cyprinid herpesvirus 3 (CyHV3) or carp interstitial nephritis gill necrosis virus

[Anonymous No.22667295]

>>22665935
>disagreed with homosex

They were all doing homosex since boarding school. Some of these places even had notorious "butt rooms" for "smoking fags"

[Anonymous No.22667361]

greeks are for geeks
read nords instead

[Anonymous No.22668024]

>>22667295
Im not talking about Br*tish people, who have never produced a truly right-wing thinker