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What are some famous literary works that are now considered Lost that you're curious about?

>> No.22607270

The Epic Cycle

>> No.22607511

>>22607246
Aquinas’ refutations on Islam

>> No.22607547

>>22607246
Gospel of Q

>> No.22607548

>>22607246
Shakespeare's Don Quixote play

>> No.22607552

>>22607246
Les Journées de Florbelle

>> No.22607556

Claudius' histories of the Etruscans and Carthage

>> No.22607561

>>22607552
Probably about eating poop

>> No.22607616

The second half of Dead Souls.

>> No.22607618

>>22607246
Byron's memoirs
Schopenhauer's sex diaries

>> No.22607653

Plato’s Monarchy

>> No.22607679

>>22607246
Practically everything Jung cited. All of his books cite works that you simply cant find anymore. How the hell did he have access to such a vase library of ancient text that are impossible to find today? Freemason connections?

>> No.22607700

>>22607679
Is there a chance he just made it up?

>> No.22607745

>>22607700
No

>> No.22607778

>>22607246
The Later books of Livy. Fabius Pictor and the other Early Roman authors

>> No.22607785

>>22607246
I would be interested in seeing more than just the fragments we have of Epicurus. Apparently he wrote a lot that was lost.

>> No.22607798

>>22607246
William of Tyre's history of Islam
The other books which preceded the Iliad and Odyssey
Claudius's Etruscan works
Apparently Ptolemy's biography of Alexander was lost at some point

>> No.22607857

>>22607511
"UMVGH EVROPA GOOD SHITSKINS BAD"
here i got you senpai

>> No.22607913

>>22607246
Ancient greek plays. I heard Aeschylus wrote 90-some plays but we only have almost 6.
Also, is it true that 90% of written works of the past are lost?

>> No.22607973

>>22607857
This is basic knowledge. He should have put more detail than the obvious.

>> No.22608006

>>22607798
>The other books which preceded the Iliad and Odyssey
im more interested in ur versions of both before they were codified into their current forms

>> No.22608021

>>22607857
This but unironically.

>> No.22608044

>>22607913
I don't have a source but my assumption would be that a lot more than 90% are lost. Book worms, war and pillaging; fires, general civilizations collapsing, etc probably meant that most works have been lost. I doubt it was possible to preserve most publishings until industrialization took place.

>> No.22608080

>>22607913
Hard to give a figure, but you probably could come up with one based on references in surviving works to ones we no longer have, plus however many works that we don't even have references to. 90% may even be too low. A professor of mine said he believes it's close to everything for plays and poetry, but not as high for histories and philosophical works.

The only things that survived were the things that were copied over and over again and thus escaped the constant destruction of written texts. This pretty much leaves things that were popular, deemed very important/high quality or in the case of some latin texts surviving through the middle ages, were used for instruction when learning the language. For example with Aeschylus, after Rome, it was probably more and more difficult to keep all of his plays in circulation and copied again and again, there are only so many scribes with so much time and a lot of things to preserve, so they probably only copied the ones they thought were best or had themes they liked the most. And there were likely many which people tried to preserve but got lost due to sheer bad luck.

On the one hand, this means that the things we have are probably among the better texts, on the other, we'd sure love to see the rest as well for many reasons. Also, there were some which may not have been among the best works overall in terms of quality, but would still be valuable sources for us now, like Claudius' histories that got mentioned twice here, or books 46-142 of Livy's history of Rome.

>> No.22608089

>>22607246
For more recent examples, Melville’s lost book and Hemingway’s first batch of short stories.

>> No.22608109

>>22607973
Basic knowledge is something more akin to the pope acknowledging that crusades were violation of christian morals and condemning them, mexican tradcath larper

>> No.22608207

>>22607653
Everything attested to Plato in antiquity we still have today thanks to Thrasyllus so we can infer that we have everything Plato wrote. There is however an incomplete dialogue on Atlantis which Plato never finished called Critias and Hermocrates.

>> No.22608492

>>22607700
Yes

>> No.22608522

>>22607246
Sulla's memoirs, and that's sad because they sound like really fun read

>> No.22608551

>>22607246
The works of the Presocratics (especially Heraclitus and Parmenides), Callimachus' longer poems (particularly the Hecale), and any works of William Blake possibly destroyed by Frederick Tatham

>> No.22608564

>>22607547
Doesn't exist

>> No.22608568

>>22607246
The Richard Burton book on Bacha Bazi his wife burned.

>> No.22608580

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondal_(fictional_country)

this

>> No.22608953

>>22607246
The Pre-presocratics

>> No.22609556

>>22607246
The parts of the Gilgamesh epic which are still lost or extremely fragmentary, especially if they’re Sumerian in origin (ideally predating the Third Dynasty of Ur). Would love to see more of how the epic was initially known to those who first heard/read it, as opposed to how it would evolve and develop later on in Akkad, Babylon, Assyria and Hattusa.

>> No.22609566

Hadrian's autobiography.

>>22607548
Seconding this one.

>> No.22609599

>>22607246
All of the Mayan codices and monuments which were burned/destroyed upon both the collapse of the Classic period and the Spanish Conquest.
That which we do know about Mayan literature/historiography indicates that it was extremely well developed and strikingly similar to the legendary traditions of the Old World, including those of Greece, Rome, China and Mesopotamia. An absolute treasure trove of unique works that would’ve provided a direct look into one of history’s most chronically misunderstood and overlooked civilizations.
A shame the Spanish had to chimp out like a pack of savage niggers the second they arrived and burn every single codice they could get their hands on.

>> No.22609974

>>22608568
as well as all of his personal diaries; he was an astounding man and the platonic ideal of an adventurer

>>22607246
So many.
>Byron's memoirs, burned by his friend
>The last three notebooks in Sylvia Plath's diary, burned by her husband Ted Hughes after her suicide
>The complete works of the poet Sappho
>The other 90% of Emily Dickinson's letters (all the rest burned by her sister; they almost certainly contained more poems)
>The other 2/3rds of Aristotle (only a 1/3 comes down to us and we're pretty sure it's just lecture notes)
>The book that Cicero wrote to console himself after his son died
>Complete Heraclitus (wrote one book "On The Nature Of Things" and we only have tantalizing fragments)
>Any Epicurean philosophy
>Any of the Presocratics, really
>The other 4 poems in the Homeric Cycle
If I could just pick one to have, just one, it would either be the Heraclitus or the Sappho. Very very hard to choose between those two. Heraclitus is one of the most fascinating Greek philosophers and the most interesting presocratic, and Sappho's verse was so good that her contemporaries called her "The Tenth Muse." Very hard to choose. Complete Aristotle would also be cool but we're pretty sure we have the essentials, except for the Poetics, which is basically just a fragment.

>> No.22609984

>>22609974
The missing Aristotle includes dialogues he wrote featuring himself schooling other sophists on topics of his choice. It would be the most inane and pompous shit imaginable.

>> No.22610000

Not really famous but I’d love to be able to read Sanchuniathon who was a Phoenician historian. Another one that interests me is Berossus, a Babylonian writer

>> No.22610006

>>22609984
maybe, maybe not! they might be plato imitations, but they might also give us insight into little known schools of greek philosophy. it would also be interesting to see what aristotle does with the dialogue formulation.
>>22607246
im going to add two more that aren't so much "lost" as "never completed," but I think they belong;
>the other 2 novels Dostoevsky planned to write to complete the trilogy started with Bros. K
>the remaining 3-4 volumes of Marx's Capital; he finished the first, got 90% of the way done with the second, Engels assembled Marx's notes into the third, and he never wrote the rest
>The other half of Aquinas's Summa, which he abandoned after a mystical experience that left him to say "All I have written is like straw"

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22610248

Great book. Read it.

>> No.22610556

>>22610248
thanks for the rec

>> No.22610660

Cicero's Hortensius

>> No.22610687

>>22610660
this one is painful

>> No.22610919

>>22608109
Self defense is perfectly in line with Christian morality.

>> No.22610954

>>22607679
This is really interesting - is there a list anywhere of some of the works he cites?

>> No.22610960

>>22610006
They were dialogues starring HIMSELF. That is the ancient equivalent of writing, directing and starring in your own movie Tommy Wiseau style.

>> No.22611238

>>22610919
Self defence from who? The seljuks? The crusades are the main reason they managed to conquer byzantium

>> No.22611605

>>22607246
The lost books of the Bible quoted by Paul

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>>22592767
>>22609938
>>22608369

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>>22608587
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>>22603785

>> No.22611821

>>22607913
I wanted to mention Aeschylus too. Also Accius's Atreus and Varius Rufus's Thyestes.

>> No.22612002

>>22607679
Could it be accidental/on purpose destruction because of/under the pretext of WW2?

>> No.22612010

>>22607679
He retrieved them from the Akashic Records

>> No.22612767

>>22611605
What books?

>> No.22612882

>>22607700
100%

>> No.22612903

>>22607246
Most of Aeschylus' and Sophocles' plays, Aristotle's dialogues. The loss of Greek culture makes me sad.

>> No.22612906

>>22607679
You have to visit random archives of Latin works like he did.

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>>22607246

>> No.22613993

lost plutarch biographies. scipio africanus major/minor for example.

>> No.22614051

The lost plays of aristophanes are probably gut busters.

>> No.22614057

On Sphere Making by Archimedes.

>> No.22614110
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22614110

Not sure if it's truly "lost" or just ignored, but I really wanna read whatever it was Henry Darger was writing for six years. The synopsis and sneak peeks into it are fucking insane and I feel like I'm going crazy not knowing the rest.

>> No.22614137

>>22614110
Same bro. I'd love to get my hands on a copy of the Vivian girls but Kikes hoarded it all to cut it up and sell the pieces. Greedy fucking gypsies.

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22614141

>>22614110
>>22614137
For me, it's Ralph Chubb

>> No.22614142

>>22607679
>Practically everything Jung cited.
Is there a list of that? Aion real or not was very well researched imho

>> No.22614594

>>22614110
good taste

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22614615

>> No.22614867

>>22607246
Hemingways original manuscript for that one novel he had to do over

>> No.22614912

>>22614110
>>22614137
http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/intuit/search//page/1

>> No.22614996

>>22614912
There was an anon who started to do a typeset version. Has that anon ever resurfaced?

>> No.22615025

>>22607700
>>22607679
He was 100% making those citations up lmao.

>> No.22615330

>>22610919
No it isn't
turn the other cheek
do good for those who persecute you
etc

literally 0 of the apostles and early church practiced self defense

>b-b-but what if you-
doesn't matter, its what the bible says

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>>22601252
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>>22611804
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>>22614757
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>>22607700
>>22607679

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>>22586243

>> No.22616132

>>22607246
Julius Caesar's Oedipus.

>> No.22616137

While I think the importance of the loss of the works of the Library of Alexandria is exaggerated, I would have enjoyed reading some of the historical works there.

>> No.22616988

>>22616137
don't think there were anything significant that got lost when the library got destroyed that didn't have their own copies in other parts of the civilized world at that time

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>>22607246
For me? The lost books of the Hermetica, I suppose. Apparently there were 17 and only like 14 survived.

>> No.22617015

>>22616988
That's a cope. Did Alexandria have a lot of benign ledgers? Sure. But to completely handwave the largest library of the ancient world is ridiculous. I think it's safe to assume that there must have been at least one lost text inside Alexandria that would have been historically significant. Whether it's something from Aristotle or an old version of the Torah.

>> No.22617295

>>22614030

>> No.22617381

>>22610919
Nothing says self defense like an invasion.

>> No.22617390

>>22607270
This

>> No.22617392

>>22608564
Wrong

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>>22607246
Third Reich fitness manuals.
Imagine the enlightenment one would receive upon cracking open a nazi fitness manual. A lifting routine so powerful and aryan that it’s mere existence posed a threat to liberal Jewish western democracy. The culmination of the ancestral spirit and vril of the German people, manifested as a workout regimen. Imagine the raw power you could achieve when possessing such a tome. The entire vril of Hitler and the German race channeled into your gains.

>> No.22617606

The full works of Celsus. I want to see what made the Christcucks seethe so badly.

>> No.22617704

>>22616137
>>22616988
Idiots they had the full plays, or at least a far more comprehensive set of plays, of Aeschylus. That alone is pretty fucking big.

>> No.22617722

>>22617597
this infograph isnt without a point but it comes with its own pack of propaganda.

the soviets were known to beat the germans in unarmed combat since they were physically stronger. slavs being stronger than germans is a historical trend since the 4th c, when slavic dominance pushed germanics westward into germania.

>> No.22617839

>>22617381
according to Chris Hitchens, yes.

>> No.22617913

>>22617722
Ah, I almost forgot about the great German-Slavic boxing wars of the first millennium. Where Teuton and Rus hordes met on the battlefields with naught but their fisticuffs. Agreeing to abscond from their lands should they been beaten and humiliated in honorable unarmed brawls.

>> No.22617960

The Pistis Sophia.

>> No.22619076

My diary desu. Shame it’ll be lost after I die, it’s genius

>> No.22619136

>>22607270

I know Aristotle criticized the Cypria for being unfocused, but it has so many scenes that lend themselves to epic poetry

> The wedding of Thetis
> The Judgement of Paris
> The sacrifice of Iphigenia
> Odysseus's speech to Achilles about living a long life of obscurity or a short one of glory

>> No.22619217

Musical rather than literary, but lost nonetheless

The music for Gilbert & Sullivan's first collaboration, "Thespis"

JS Bach is credited with roughly 200 church cantatas, but is thought to have written perhaps 100 more

Mozart's clarinet concerto in its original form (what we have is an arrangement)

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>>22617597
Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive. The Uber Aryan.

>> No.22620017

>>22619723
You cower at the weight up his spiritual fitness.

>> No.22620029

>>22617597
Poe’s Law applies to this place too much anymore. I can’t tell what is serious and what is facetious

>> No.22621071

>>22607246
The first bibles written in the venacular

>> No.22621113

>>22608089
I have both of them. Melvilles lost one's about a HETEROSEXUAL sailor and Hemingways are just 14 different versions of Up in Michigan but the state is changed

>> No.22621119

>>22619217
The Carmina Burana we technically have but we are unsure if we have the proper music to it. Neumes were the writing system used for the notes and the modern transcriptions are guesswork.

>> No.22621122

>>22619217
> About one-quarter of the poems in the Carmina Burana are accompanied in the manuscript by music using unheighted, staffless neumes,[30] an archaic system of musical notation that by the time of the manuscript had largely been superseded by staffed neumes.[31] Unheighted neumes only indicate whether a given note is pitched higher or lower than the preceding note, without giving any indication of how much change in pitch there is between two notes, so they are useful only as mnemonic devices for singers who are already familiar with the melody. However, it is possible to identify many of those melodies by comparing them with melodies notated in staffed neumes in other contemporary manuscripts from the schools of Notre Dame and Saint Martial.[31]

>> No.22621132

Sadam Hussein's "Begone, devils!" Finished on the eve of the American invasion.

>> No.22622220

>>22607246
Muhammad’s will and testament

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>> No.22623496

>>22622220
expunged hadith describing muhammad's face

>> No.22624514

>>22623496
Kek isnt that a thing made up by Shiites?

I heard it somewhere too

>> No.22624720

>>22621538
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>>22624431

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>>22624074

>>22622463
>>22620057
>>22617060
>>22620379

>> No.22624787

>>22609974
Good selection, Byron's Memoirs would have been something else.

>> No.22624915

>>22609599
I think you're getting your cultures confused. Archeologists have found the remains of Mayan books. Turns out the jungle isn't good at preserving paper.

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It's by no means lost, but it's impossible to find a good edition of the King in Yellow that has all the stories (not just the first four) and isn't some print on demand garbage from Poland

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The rest of "On nature" would be nice.

>> No.22625190

>>22607270
For me it's the Titanomachy.

>> No.22625454

>>22607246
I lost my address book. Where is it?

>> No.22625468

>>22607246
The dream version of Coleridge's "Kubla Khan"

>> No.22625476

>>22607246
Love's Labours Won

>> No.22625910

>>22625454
Ur mums house

>> No.22626842

>>22625454
I ate it, sorry

>> No.22627116

>>22607246
That book about the history of the Etruscans, written by some Roman politician. would've been nice to know more about the environment the Romans originated from.

>> No.22627137

>>22617597
i would use such power for the impregnation of black women, to create and raise an entire race of mutt ubermensch.

>> No.22627223

Origen is the best writer of antiquity and orthofags burnt almost all of it. Most of what we have are whatever was translated in Latin by late antiquity or Greek codices stuck in the west.

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The Book of the Wars of the Lord. It's alluded to in at least one book of the Old Testament, but we don't have it itself.

>> No.22627940

>>22627223
Why are Ordogs like this?

>> No.22628369

>>22627116
The volumes written by Claudius?

>> No.22628570

>>22607246
I heard that Jandek wrote like seven novels and burned them all back in the 80s when he couldn't get published

>> No.22628787

>>22628369
yeah, that's wat it was

>> No.22629857

>>22607246
Comedia

>> No.22629866

"Up Your Ass" from that SCUM Manifesto chick.

>> No.22629896

>>22621132
Is Saddam's Quran written in his own blood still existent?

>> No.22630008

>>22629896
Isnt it in a museum

>> No.22630894

>>22630008
i think its actually in multiple museum as it isnt complete anymore but was separated in many parts.

>> No.22630943

>>22630894
Must recover all parts for Hammurabi

>> No.22631061

>>22609974
>and the platonic ideal of an adventurer
Lol no he wasn't; he was a poser who wanted to impress victorian high society. Speke on the other hand was a true explorer which is why he made Burton seethe.

>> No.22631074

>>22607246
American Codices

>> No.22631396

>>22631061
Seethe kafir

>> No.22632305

>>22631396
Dilate

>> No.22632316

my diary :(
i lost it and now i cant find it

>> No.22632323

>>22614912
holy fucking shit, thank you anon
i have been searching for so long

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>> No.22632807

>>22607700
he dreamed it bro

>> No.22633290

>>22607246
the epic cycle

>> No.22634869

>>22633290
epic

>> No.22634887

>>22607246
Extra-biblical sources referenced by the Bible.

>> No.22635455

>>22607913
This. Specifically, I wish we had more Greek comedy. I bet Aristophanes' Frying Pan Man was gold.

>> No.22635704

>>22614057
this one so much

>> No.22636121

>>22619076
There was a followup that i can't find anymore

It involved Buck Mulligan

>> No.22636154

Cicero wrote a book on grief that was considered a standard work in much of later antiquity but then was lost for some reason

>> No.22636230

Not exactly a lost book but I want to know what the fuck the Voynich manuscript is about

>> No.22636690

Death by Starvation

>> No.22637100

The Hadiths that got burned in Baghdad by Hulagu

One of them was about what Muhammad looked like

>> No.22637112

Mishima's compiled political works that his family will no longer allow to be published. Some of them were published in French and then re-translated into English recently, but a large number of them were either never published or only rarely published in Japanese in the first place. So all we have of his writing in English is the highly dramatized homogay smut he wrote for an audience of women that he despised.

>> No.22637120

>>22636230
The Voynich manuscript is almost certainly an ancient hoax so removed from its context that its become a modern hoax. Imagine the dough you could con out of sheltered European nobility by forging a document about the secrets of the new world full of da Vinci-esque code writing and cryptograms.

>> No.22637129

>>22617597
Nobody tell this guy that US physical education in the 40s and 50s would have looked the exact same as Nazi physical education in the 30s and 40s.
Nobody show this guy what bodybuilders in Victorian england looked like he'll lose his fucking mind.

>> No.22637312

>>22617597
>>22617722
Otto skorzeny wrote how soviets/russians were tough as nails. But those were farmer/trappers with completely different lifestyle compared to modern times.

>> No.22637982

Gandalf the Grey

>> No.22638316

>>22637129
Kek

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>>22625113
I have this edition. It's good

>> No.22638378

>>22609974
Byron's memoirs are funny because they were too degenerate to be unleashed onto the world.

>> No.22638391

>>22623496
I am fairly certain there are plenty of Hadiths that give physical descriptions of him. Muscular, thick beard, white-ish skin tone

>> No.22638394

>>22617839
>Christopher Hitchens and my religion agree therefore my religion good and Chris Hitchens bad
damn...
ZAMN...

>> No.22638443

>>22637112
I remember a couple years ago people were posting political essays by Mishima on this board, were those the translations? If they're mostly available in Japanese why hasn't anyone translated them all?

>> No.22638449

>>22607246
Thinking about how much stuff is lost to history makes me fucking sick. Why were pre-moderns so shit at preserving things? Was it really that hard to just copy important tomes or hide them in a safe place?

>> No.22638459

>>22638443
Because they haven't been available in the Japanese in new print in decades easily, and what's been printed in the French hasn't been reprinted in just as long if not longer. His family went into total lockdown of his works after his suicide by coup. I don't even think his more mainstream fiction novels and stuff like Sun and Steel is still in print.
The people posting his political essays on here were probably taking them from the Substack writer whose name I can't remember that was doing the first translations of his French works into English.

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>>22607246
Claudius' Etruscan dictionary

>> No.22638472

>>22638449
>Was it really that hard to just copy important tomes
Yes, it was actually. No industry at scale for the production of paper or parchment existed for most of history, let alone ink or binding materials, and the only people who could read and write were either artisans who would charge you out the ass for it or religious scholars, limiting the likelihood of getting copies made at reasonable price.
>or hide them in a safe place?
Safe from intentional destruction and safe from decay and the elements are two entirely different things.

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>>22607246
Shakespeare's Cardenio

>> No.22638505

>>22638328
>heathen edition
is there a believer edition ?

>> No.22638519

>>22638449
what makes you think we are better now ?
im a /vr/ guy and its crazy the amount of devs who just lost source code of famous games.

>> No.22638615

>>22607246
Papias' Exposition of the Sayings of the Lord. Apparently it was a collection of reports about Jesus from people who knew him (e.g. John).

>> No.22638618

>>22638519
That's not really comparable since you can just make endless copies of the final digital files. Old film reels catching fire spontaneously is a better example.

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>>22638328
A buddy of mine found an edition that looked good online. But when he got it, it was was a shitty print on demand book with a scan of the frontage of said good looking edition on the cover. It even had the words "Illustrated Edition" shooped on, despite only having one small shitty animation.
I wish I was making this up.
I have picrel, it's a nice small hardcover with the yellow being slightly shiny gold, but it only contains the first 4 stories which people argue are the only ones worth reading, but I'd still like to have the complete set

>> No.22639577

>>22619217
I think we're lucky in music compared with literature. There's relatively little lost, as far as we can tell.

>JS Bach is credited with roughly 200 church cantatas, but is thought to have written perhaps 100 more
Bach liked writing things in sets of six. (Brandenburg Concertos, Partitas, French Keyboard Suites, English Keyboard Suites, etc etc). Now we only have four Orchestral Suites, and they were just found individually, scattered around; there's no one definitive manuscript with all of them. I think it's pretty likely he wrote six originally, so life owes us two.

>Mozart's clarinet concerto in its original form (what we have is an arrangement)
I'm not all that fussed about this. What's worse is the actual piano parts to his piano concertos. He often just wrote out the bare bones, because he would be playing them himself and he knew what he wanted (or would improvise). Pianists often make stuff up themselves but it would be nice to know what he had in mind.

>> No.22640326

>>22639499
The Heathen Edition is only in paperback but it contains all 10 stories and the excerpts from the play in between chapters.

>> No.22640661

>>22640326
Interesting

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>>22639186

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the bible (before 30k+ edits)

>> No.22642183

Bumpy

>> No.22643603

neo-bump arrives from the future
this thread's accelerating to page 1

>> No.22643701

>>22607246
Napoleon apparently wrote a book when he was chilling in Egypt

>> No.22644972

>>22608109
The Crusades were a series of defensive campaigns increasingly waged to preserve Europe from Pisslam. Fuck off.

>> No.22644984

>>22607246
I really really really want to read Aristotle's lost dialogues. Fuck I bet they were kino.

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>>22643374

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>> No.22645314

>>22607246
I am a simple man, so:
>the lost Homeric poems
>Aristophanes' lost comedies
>Claudius' histories of Carthage and Etruria
>The ancient Stoics (Zeno, Cleanthes, Chrisipus and Diogenes).
>Seneca's lost works especially On Superstition
>the complete Book of Giants from the dead sea scrolls

>> No.22645571

>>22644972
Ywnbw

>> No.22646243

>>22617381

They were reclaiming Christian lands the Muslims had conquered.

>> No.22646612

The lost parts of Tacitus, also more parallel lives

>> No.22646772

>>22609974
Wish there was more of Sappho. (Not only do I respect her for her poetry, but being so gay that both you and your hometown are synonyms for "gay" two thousand years later is a pretty impressive feat!)

>> No.22646964

>>22607246
Gandalf looking into a big book.

>> No.22647064

>>22638463
This one hurts

>> No.22647178

>>22607246
Aristotle's actual work that's not just lecture notes. Can't remember who but someone described his prose as "a river of gold". It must've been kino as fuck.

>> No.22647182

>>22607246
I WANT HERACLITUS' WORK SO BAD BROS

>> No.22647187

>>22607246
Death by Starvation, Hegesias

>> No.22647228

>>22639499

The romance stories are kinda faggy but a nice change of pace.

>> No.22647768

>>22647182
what ?! i have some on my kindle unless im misremembering.

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>>22647155
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>> No.22649433

>>22647768
You probably have The Fragments, which is mainly a collection of other people quoting him (e.g Cicero writing that "Heraclitus once said...", etc) he wrote at least a whole treatise worth

>> No.22649473

>>22607246
The complete Will to Power/Revaluation of All Values Nietzsche planned before his madness.

>> No.22649484

>>22647178
Cicero ranked him first in Greek prose. It's over.