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There are neither beginnings nor endings to the /sffg/. But it was a beginning.

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>> No.22591014

Scifi books where the main character just stops trying?

>> No.22591028

Books about hot amazon warrior women? Tired of finding all these little twig women who somehow compete with men in physical combat.

>> No.22591036

Bakker is King

>> No.22591040

>>22591014
>anon is so far gone he can't self-insert into anything but a lazy, depressed bum

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/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

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These Burning Stars, The Kindom Trilogy #1 - Bethany Jacobs (2023)

These Burning Stars is a character focused space opera told through a split narrative of past and present through multiple points of view. Usually I have several complaints about this method because I don't think it adds much value and slows momentum, but for this book I have no complaints and believe it is the best possible way to have told the story because of how much it enriches the narrative and by how amusing it becomes after having finished the book.

This is among the very best debut novels I've read and is a great novel in its own right. I am thoroughly impressed by how much I enjoyed it from beginning to end. For my personal taste it's written almost exactly how I prefer and there wasn't a single low point. It doesn't reach the heights of what I consider the best, but reading something that is consistently highly enjoyable without almost anything needing to be overlooked is a treasure as well.

All of the viewpoint characters are morally gray at the lightest, though I didn't find any of them to be unlikeable. Three of the viewpoint characters, all gendermarked as women, are Esek, Chono, and Jun. Esek is a sociopath prone to theatrical displays of emotionality and violence, which makes her fun in a terrifying way. Chono is deeply religious and wants to brighten the world, but she's dyed dark by Esek and is ambivalent about her rescuer. Jun is a rogue hacker seeking revenge and profit, though not to benefit herself. They're all involved with each other's drama. This isn't a story where the viewpoints don't cross paths.

The only significant point of contention I have it with it is that I don't understand the practicalities or the meaning of the gendermark system. Each person has a visible physical mark denoting man or woman, and a few taboo exceptions. Most people aren't allowed to choose a mark until they're an adult, though it can be changed afterwards. It's never made clear what percent people choose the same gender as their sex, which are considered separate, or what differences there are.

There a few sex scenes, which are romantic or violent. The most detailed scene isn't explicit enough to definitively know (or so I tell myself) the specific sexual characteristics of both of those involved, though I don't mind whichever configuration it may be. There are several relationships but due to ambiguity involved, it's probably most accurate to call almost all of them sapphic. There's definitely much more of a focus on women.

I'm already hopeful that this will become one of my favorite trilogies, which seems more likely than not currently, but considering how the book ends the second will probably have to be rather different, though I think Jacobs can manage. As far as I'm concerned Jacobs has outshone her relevant and similar contemporaries with her debut.

Rating: 5/5

I received this DRC from Orbit through NetGalley

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/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

>> No.22591102

So I'm thinking of finally writing, but I have a feeling that when I write scenes, I'm probably trying to describe a scene straight out of a movie rather than something actually tangible to read (namely battle scenes). How can I break free of this?

>> No.22591185

>>22591036
>>22591094
>>22591101
Great posts anons, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Any books like LOTR?? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

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I just started reading The Curse of Chalion by Luis Bujold and I'm enjoying it thus far, but I don't understand 1 thing. Pic related. What did Cazaril mean by "But I can make you lose it"? How, why? Olus is gonna kill em either way and it's not like Cazaril and Dondo are best buds that would get really minfucked if they had to kill eachother. And if Olus would kill 1 and send the other back, or kill both, the message would be the same. So how does he lose? Losing the satisfaction of 1 killing the other? If this is it, it feels like a really retarded gamble..

>> No.22591247

Tonight I am going to smoke dope and read a Lafferty and a CAS story. What other short stories should I read while I am dudeweed'd?

>> No.22591264

>>22591099
Your """reviews""" are SHIT. fuck off

>> No.22591268

>>22591264
Welcome back from your hiatus!

>> No.22591270

>>22591268
Looks like you got gegd on

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>22590564
Thanks neat, thanks for the info.
Any other world with cool cosmologies that arent just spheres in the void?
Already had Discworld and Silmarillion.

>> No.22591304

>>22591102
Stop watching movies

>> No.22591308

>>22591300
The Wizard knight

>> No.22591356

>>22591102
Try writing in a screenplay format.

>> No.22591387

>>22591264
my favourite ritual post

>> No.22591472

Bakker is KING.

>> No.22591501

Long Sun summary so far
>Gods are the AI of each member of the former Great family that built the Whorl
>they are trying to kill each other and use the characters in the story to do so (the political plot)
>these AI can govern human and mechanical bodies. Some do to survive the killings. Sometimes they can take multiple vessels
>these possesed bodies occupy high status within the Whorl's society and use their resources to get rid of their competition while navigating the traditions of the population.
>Silk's journey consists of his spiritual awakening from this realization and guiding his people out of the Whorl. His identity issues arise from his responsabilities overcoming his limited sense of selfhood and falling in love with a possesed person.
Correct me if i got anything wrong

>> No.22591550

Use spoiler tags, retard.

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Brittany!

>> No.22591653

It's literally from the first book

>> No.22591726

>>22591300
Death Gate Cycle

>> No.22591727

>>22591191

It's not a gamble, Cazaril has an ironclad streak of being very willing to give his life for his morality in ways that I won't spoil now. He'd rather die than commit a crime against someone he personally loathes so it wasn't some trick to try and avoid death, rather it was an act of defiance that contrasts him with Dondo. Dondo would have eagerly taken the deal which gives him, if not shame, some measure of hatred for Cazaril for being a better man than he.

>> No.22591736

>>22591247
Through the gates of the silver key

>> No.22591819
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I apologize for the dead space, was up at 3 am making this

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>>22591819
based

>> No.22591873

>>22591856
I based it off of this post from a few months ago >>/lit/thread/22446740#p22449538 I kept in the city novel's for the sake of autism

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>> No.22591952

>>22591819
I'm actually amazed I've never seen some of the tricks you used in the chart, never had an alternative version peeking out from the corner of its older brother!

>> No.22592080

>>22591819
1. The Complete Dying Earth has all the 4 volumes
2. Technically neither Long nor short Sun are dying Earth stories

>> No.22592088

>>22592080
I don't give a fuck

>> No.22592095

>>22592088
Then why make a chart in the first place?

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NEW SUN DYING EARTH NEW SUN DYING EARTH NEW SUN DYING EARTH LONG SUN DYING EARTH LONG SUN DYING EARTH SHORT SUN HYPERION SEQUELS GOOD???????????? WOLFE VANCE WOLFE VANCE WOLFE VANCE
HEY HAVE YOU READ NEW SUN????? WIZARD KNIGHT LATRO FiFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS

>> No.22592109

>>22592105
minty whipping me for displeasing her..

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Last night I read some generic Conan ripoff trash. I think it's time to get back to scifi, I've been reading far too much fantasy and historical recently.

>> No.22592176

>>22592116
>Lin carter
Great editor, shit writer.
Many such cases!

>> No.22592221

Any intelligent fantasy? Not just uninspired Tolkien rip-offs.

>> No.22592226

>>22592221
Depends what you mean

>> No.22592247

>>22592221
Chronicles of Amber
Discworld
A Song of Fire and Ice
Eric Saga

I mean I'm just listening off things I like but I don't consider any of these to be uninspired Tolkien ripoffs

>> No.22592252

>>22592221
Okay but when does Tolkein get good??

>> No.22592253

Any Malazan readers here? Are the Ian C. Esselmont books important for a first time read or should I not bother with them?

>> No.22592255

>authors last chapter is titled "asking for leave"

>> No.22592269

>>22592221
What did you meant by this?
>>22592253
Haha

>> No.22592281

>>22591856
Cugel's Saga is cringe.

>> No.22592293

Moiraine walks up to the Forsaken, one of the twelve strongest of so and so, supposedly stronger than one hundred current day Aes Sedai put together (or something), straight up one shots him and no one bats an eye
how does she do it?

>> No.22592328

>>22592293
Which Forsaken did she one-shot? Also, she has a angreal, no? Also, it gets said all the time that surprise and dexterity with the OP can make up the difference in raw strength, at least at first.

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>>22592328
She literally announced herself and walked up to him.
I found it very funny, after the buildup

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>>22592293
>how does she do it?
Cougar powers

>> No.22592393

>>22592373
Oh, it's balefire. Yea, she's strong enough to make that weave without an angreal iirc lol
Be'lal is is also nearly a throwaway Forsaken, he barely has a backstory.

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>op rec reading charts
how legit is this?

>> No.22592401

>>22592373
>>22592293
Here's a spoiler, since you asked. Not really major but it's fun to figure out for yourself over the series
the Forsaken are all chumps whose powers have been greatly exaggerated by 3000 of bedtime ghost stories. They are powerful and know more than any living Aes Sedai, but they are just people who can channel like the rest and so can be beaten like the rest.
Also here's a bonus light spoiler
Moiraine's weave was a special, unstoppable, forbidden weave. It had been hinted at or shown throughout TDR so it didn't come out of no where. It will oneshot anything

>> No.22592419

>>22592401
>chumps
Not all of them. Based Graendal had Rand almost fall to the Shadow with her 300 IQ plans, Semirhage lost to plot armor and fetish bait, and Demandred was cooking up something devious that only simmered out due to Jordan's death and Sanderson's shoddy execution.

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Name a bigger drop off in quality

>> No.22592430

>>22592395
Never seen it before but it's probably the best webnovel list I've seen
From it I've read 8 works and they're all at least decent (which is a surprisingly high bar for webnovels)
>>22592425
Blood Song book 2 is never going to be beaten for a fall off imo

>> No.22592432

>>22592419
I meant only relative to their reputations of course.

>> No.22592435

>>22592401
yeah Moiraine said it was "forbidden" when she used it on the dogs, the ability itself wasnt out of nowhere. Also Nyeneve used it on some Fades too.
Still, with no mention of a drawback and with all preparation (if any) made off-screen, it made me go "oh."

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>>22592293
>>22592385
Mommy powers

>> No.22592446

>>22592432
Oh for sure, I just wanted to add some of them were effective, though most liked squabbling and in-fighting more than getting shit done. Moghedien honestly deserves some praise too, she was too arrogant but was still a trooper even after getting btfo multiple times.

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>>22591099
checked. thanks for the write-up.. sounds good.

>> No.22592599

>>22592444
>Thom merrilin got to hit that.
How did he do it bros?

>> No.22592644

>>22592599
morgase too
thom milfhunter more like

>> No.22592667

>>22592644
technically thom cradlerobber with morgase although a 27 year old and a man in his late 40s is not that strange even by today's standards

>> No.22592674

>>22591004
I hated WoT because the justification for why Channelers couldn't fly was incredibly stupid and ruined the entirety of everything for me.

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>>22592644
It's not milfhunting if you are older than the milfs you are hunting. Mat on the other hand...

>> No.22592715

>>22592701
I forgot he was older than Moiraine as well. Coming from the perspective of the main characters though Moiraine and Morgase are mature women. Tylin was the one doing the hunting lol. Man, I still miss Tylin..she didn't deserve that..

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>>22592599
>thom
>aes sedai

>> No.22592736

>>22592105
Give me fantasy recommendations with a romance like my wife Minthara. Bonus points, if the protagonist is going heckin’ insane, like Rand (or is insane, line Durge).

>> No.22592743

How often do you jump into something new that you havent been pitched or sold on beforehand? Or do you read the comfy stuff? Either as big as a new genre, or small as in a new series/novel.

>> No.22592746

>>22592395
Looks pretty good. I’ve read Mother of Learning, which is great for a webnovel, Worm and Pact (partly). Worm is decent and Pact I lost interest. The overall quality of webnovels is pretty low.

>> No.22592824

>>22592395
>worm

>> No.22592851

>>22591819
Okay but now I'm going to need you to out them in order of what to read for optimal experience

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Just started
>In Green's Jungles
Why the fuck do the city-states on Blue keep going to war with one another? How can this planet be better than Green?
I don't even know why everybody hates the Inhumis. Quetzal was a bro, and a little diplomacy could easily solve the whole blood drinking thing.

>> No.22592887

>>22592176
Definitely a bad writer. Every chapter is identical - Thongor and Sharajsha go to a location, get captured, fight their way out. What has he edited?

>> No.22592983

>>22592743
I read new shit all the time and just pick and choose based on a blurb and maybe a quick glance at reviews.
Does lead to a weird problem though where you get to a point where you can often work out the bulk of a book's plot just from reading the first 3 chapters or so since you're so used to genre conventions.

>> No.22592998

>>22591014
Lord of light. Technically he stopped trying a while ago and then starts trying again but the book drifts around in time so it reads the way you describe.

>> No.22593001

>>22591028
Kvothe plows a tribe of them in the second name of the wind book.
Amazons also feature in one paragraph of the Black Company books where the male soldiers remark on how much they sucked at fighting while raping them.

>> No.22593004

>>22591099
>three female mcs
>trans shit
Thats 3 strikes in two facts.

>> No.22593086

>>22593001
The Adem aren't really Amazons. Most of them are described as slight, but fit/muscular though perhaps I have too strict of definition of Amazons. Only his teacher is taller than he is. The other woman he has sex with is shorter than him.

>Amazons also feature in one paragraph of the Black Company books where the male soldiers remark on how much they sucked at fighting while raping them.
Damn, I forget how dark the Black Company novels can get.

>> No.22593102

Is doors of stone out yet? Second book kinda sucked compared to the first but I'll still read the third

>> No.22593110

>>22593102
No, and it likely wont come out for years, if ever.

>> No.22593144

Are any of you FAGGOTS reading Dune currently? What do you think of it?

>> No.22593161

>>22593144
Dune is BASED

>> No.22593218

>>22593086
Croaker at least isn't partaking and waxes a bit prosaic about it.
The stuff he does tell us combined with everyone else picking on him for white washing everyone and making them sound too heroic had always had a note of grim humor to me.

>> No.22593221

>>22593218
Yea, it's a credit to the writing. You forget sometimes that most of the Company are kinda bad dudes.

>> No.22593222

>>22593110
Does he have like an excuse or is he just rubbing his balls on his fans faces on his blog like grrm does?

>> No.22593232

>>22593222
I don't really know for sure, don't follow the author that closely. Just heard it's pretty much exactly like a GRRM situation but instead of blogging about football and Wild Cards and going to sleep on a bed of HBO money Rothfuss streams on Twitch.

>> No.22593240

>>22593232
Some people just wilt when they succeed, ugh.

>> No.22593302

Just started Malazan. What am i in for /lit/bros???

>> No.22593335

>>22593302
The longest completed fantasy series ever

>> No.22593358

>>22593302
Some really neat concepts, characters and events muddled with obtuse style and prose.
GotM has a lot of early installment weirdness. The magic system is never terribly well fleshed out, but it gets more interesting and sensible over time.
Layers and layers of history, arguably absurdly so, but it's fun and some parts feel like archeological exploration in book form.
Sorcerous velociraptors with swords instead of arms.

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>> No.22593603

>>22591264
You’re doing God’s work anon. Never forget that.

>> No.22593673 [DELETED] 

>>22591909
This is Day 14 of never having read Reverend Insanity.

>> No.22593677

>>22591909
This is Day 15 of never having read Reverend Insanity.
Repost because I miscounted.

>> No.22593747

Why are fantasy and sci-fi often linked?

>> No.22593794

>>22593335
Wrong

>> No.22593875

>>22592435
Keep in mind she used it on a male Forsaken, who couldn't see the Weaves coming.
She basically did the Fantasy equivalent of a driveby shooting

>> No.22593892

>>22593747
Because they have a strong affinity and reader overlap. That's the case, though less so, for all speculative fiction.

>> No.22594110

I'm rereading REH's Conan for the first time in years and it's even better than I remember. I don't think I really appreciated the way Howard writes and describes things when I read the stories as a teen because it's really standing out to me now. The man had a gift.

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>>22594110
based, agreed. I can't explain it but his prose is "thick, like molasses". and I mean that in a good way. anyway, enjoy. reading a Conan story a day keeps the doctor away. Tower of the Elephant is my favorite. don't forget to check out Karl Edward Wagner's Kane if you haven't

>> No.22594167

finished rereading the great hunt and it was even better than i remembered. absolutely criminal what they did with the tv show

>> No.22594177

>>22594124
I'll probably want to read everything Howard wrote, including the other genres, before I move on but Kane and other sword and sorcery classics will be next on the list.

>> No.22594178

>>22593302
Start is pure kino but it meanders hard to the end

>> No.22594232

You know that thing where a scientist flips a massive switch? Where did that come from?

>> No.22594236

>>22594232
Frankenstein perhaps

>> No.22594237

>>22594167
> lets throw away everything that made the books insanely popular
> show flops
and yet adaptations keep making this same mistake over and over again

>> No.22594245

>>22594232
>>22594236
Yeah, the original Frankenstein movie was that first thing that came to my mind too. Flip the huge switch, lightning sparks, "it's alive". Still an iconic scene to this day and it influenced movie makers ever since.

>> No.22594255

>>22594237
That's because the guy who was a contestant on survivor knows better than the original author
>Judkins: It’s a very fundamental change actually to make to the book series, and it has a lot of ripple effects, and we’ll continue to do things like that I think are more reflective of what hopefully Robert Jordan would be writing if he was writing today.
You see? Jordan clearly would have approved if only he weren't conveniently dead and unable to speak for himself

>> No.22594289

>>22591264
>>22593603
samefag, see this post
>>22591185

>> No.22594295

>>22594124
>tower of the Elephant
My favourite too. Based fatcunt thief.

>> No.22594335

>>22594255
Do people really expect a word for word adaptation when a 10 hour tv show about a 800 page novel gets announced?

>> No.22594344

>>22594335
They expect the show to not cut important scenes from the book with the excuse of "we didn't have enough time" while adding a 3 episode arc about an OC gay sex subplot that guest stars the showrunner's boyfriend. But yeah keep beating that "word for word" strawman. The problem isn't that it isn't a 100% adaption, it's that they changed things that didn't need to be changed and added things that make no sense.

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>>22591300
Dichronauts and The Inverted World both explore the implications of their strange world shapes although the latter is something of a bait and switch.

Long Sun takes place inside a cylinder although it's a ship so it doesn't really count

Night's Master has a literal flat earth with a hole to hell, although the shape isn't plot relevant

>> No.22594433

I am the original your reviews are shit fuck off poster
I haven't posted in this general for over two months but it's good to see that my creation has been so successful that others are aping me and that review fags are getting called out without my even being here

>> No.22594439

>>22594433
Based

>> No.22594441

Considering the immediate samefaggotry, I believe it.

>> No.22594468

>>22594433
Based

>> No.22594485

>>22594433
>He thinks his shitposting is a "creation"

>> No.22594495

>>22594485
Ritualposting newfags are heavily narcissistic.

>> No.22594498

The IP count says over 50 people post here but i refuse to believe there are more than 3 of us

>> No.22594500

>>22594498
It's really only you and me and honestly I'm getting tired of doing all the heavy lifting, anon.

>> No.22594507

I know samefagging is rampant here because i'm responsible for at 80% of all ritual posts

>> No.22594582

Started reading Children of Time.
I could not give a single less of a fuck about whatever is happening with the humans, but I am utterly fascinated with the spider side of the story.

Looked up the author and he's a zoologist or whatever, which makes a hell of a lot of sense in retrospect.

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>>22594433
im the original /sffg/ recommendations
sometimes i forget to post in the thread and when i check someone already did the post

>> No.22594624

I am going to rate all of the RA Lafferty stories from the Best of Lafferty omnibus. I will rate them 3 at a time and out of 10.0, stay tuned.

>> No.22594626

>>22594232
those switches are the most reasonable way to turn on and off things if you are a diy scientist. they are cheap, easy to make and very reliable

>> No.22594639

>>22594360
>the latter is something of a bait and switch.
what do you mean? i hope you don't mean it in a bad way, it's a great book

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>>22594624
good luck

>> No.22594643

>>22594582
It's a great example of write what you know.

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WTF is his problem?

>> No.22594664

>>22594643
Yeah. The book isn't well written by any means, and the plot is all over the place, but there is something about the way he writes the spider chapters that is so unique and alien that I'm completely spellbound. I read a blurb about the second book and apparently he does the same thing except with octopus aliens in that, so I'm looking forward to seeing how that works too. Like I said, could not give a single fuck less about the human stuff, maybe it gets better, but right now when I turn a page and see it's a human chapter it's like turning a page of ASOIAF and seeing "Sansa" at the top.

>> No.22594669

>>22594664
Agreed but a lot of sci-fi is like that, especially older classics. It's about the ideas not the quality of the writing.

>> No.22594721

>>22594335
Pathetic strawman

>> No.22594736

>>22594669
Fair enough, I don't generally read sci-fi, I'm more a fantasy guy, but that does make sense with some of the other sci-fi I've read. Insanely interesting premise, not exceptionally well written prose or plot or characters.

>> No.22594752

>>22591099
>All of the viewpoint characters are morally gray at the lightest
Dropped, I only read books where the morality of the characters falls into my rigid theological worldview.

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>>22592444
>>22592717
WTF i love aislop now?
What aesthetic/Style prompt are you using?

>> No.22594782

>>22594661
He lost all motivation and incentive to write once he made his millions.

>> No.22594792

As mentioned, ratings for the first 3 stories in the best of RA Lafferty:
>Slow Tuesday Night, 7.0
>Narrow Valley, 5.7
>Nor Limestone Islands, 8.6

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After reading a handful of Lafferty stories, I have no idea where his political sympathies lie. I know he was a deeply Catholic man, but I just read Interurban Queen and am not entirely sure if it is a pro or anti industrialisation tale.

>> No.22594880

We are in an age of isekai harem litrpg light novels...

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>>22594755
Somebody posted it in a previous thread. It's manga style. You can add colored so it's not black and white and specify the style decade.

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>>22594880

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Is this real?

>> No.22594933

>>22594880
Not yet! Not until tradpub starts picking them up and flooding bookstore shelves with them. Until then I can safely ignore them.

>> No.22594934

>>22594933
You have to fart in my mouth. I know dis now

>> No.22594958

>>22594931
nah

>> No.22594996

>>22591099
your review makes it sound a fair bit less gay and woke/liberal left than what goodreads would have me think
how gay is it actually?

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>>22591099
Anon, with the rate that you can smash these books out you could've read so many actually good fantasy books. I don't read your reviews not because they are "SHIT" but because your taste is abysmal. Read and review something good aka dinofantasy and I'll read and respond to your posts.

>> No.22595010

>>22592425
I can't think of anything off the top of my head, I can think of sequels being worse but not this much worse.

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>> No.22595118

>>22595008
Not that anon, but dinofantasy? I’m interested. Any suggestions?

>> No.22595134

>>22592395
Harry Potter and the methods of rationality is fun if you like gay Harry Potter fan fiction. Not gay homosexual but the author is just a faggot. Kinda fun, but if I recall correctly worm is better

>> No.22595136

>>22595118
lurk moar

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>>22594642
Wait, is this the reason why there are more people reading lafferty's work? Because some retarded le based chudpilled youtuber talked about it?

>> No.22595208

>>22595179
World Peace was funny as fuck, but I don't give a fucknwhat they read. I just have seen him recommended heaps here so I decided to give him a go.

>> No.22595279

>>22593302
>>22591185

>> No.22595293

Is there a single epic fantasy series written in the 21st century that is any good (aside from Bakker)? Malazan is shit, WoT is shit. What else is there?

>> No.22595380

>>22592435
>>22592401
I just started re-reading The Dragon Reborn(book 3). I got to the part where Rand leaves his camp without telling anyone where he's going, and everyone freaks out and starts searching for him. We get a a glimpse of Rand's travels, and he practicing Balefire on dogs, without realizing what he's doing. He is barely able to channel when he wants at this point. And when he does learn something, he accidentally re-discovers the most dangerous weaves in the world.

Man, I forgot how unhinged he is at this point. Also, I never truly appreciated the workings of the wheel before. I mean, I never fully grasped how much Rand himself is getting pulled along by the wheel. It's funny, because he constantly thinks to himself "duty is as heavy as a mountain". But so is his stubbornness. He refuses to move so much, it's causing mountains to quake. Oh sure, you could think of the mountain shaking as Rand being untrained in the one power. But you can also think of his involuntary Saidin fits, as the wheel expressing itself through Rand.

As they say, the one power is the source of energy that turns the wheel. If someone as ta'veren as Rand refuses to move, then eventually Saidin's push on the wheel will force him to move, if it doesn't break him first.

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>>22595293
Ea Cycle
Twilight Reign by Tom Lloyd
Also anything by Carol berg, Fiona mcintosh, kate Forsyth, Glenda Larke and Sherwood Smith is good but i know you are /pol/-chuds who hate women.

>> No.22595480

>>22595419
>hate women.
We don't care about them. Complete apathy towards females.
Only /r9k/ incels and /pol/ retards hate them.

>> No.22595516

>>22595480
I love women :)

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>>22594884
I can finally make art of obscure old fantasy waifus.

>> No.22595665

This is a long shot. Has anyone read a star trek novel which is primarily focused on the friendship of two women, one human and the other vulcan? It's set up as a kind of reflection of kirk and spock's relationship. The women are taken as political prisoners by klingons who keep them on a moon base and graphically rape them for fun. Among the other prisoners are a trio of aliens who basically need sexual contact at all times or they die. Naturally the klingons seperate them to watch them suffer. This was an official novel most likely written in 80s. I've scanned the lists of novels on wiki but nothing stands out.

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>>22595516
>I love women :)

>> No.22595670

>>22595666
Fag alarm

>> No.22595672

>>22595666
begone, satan!

>> No.22595690

>>22595558
This was the best part of the AI revolution for me as well. So many characters in so many series that never got any fanart and now it can finally be corrected.

>> No.22595730

>>22594996
I don't know what you want me to tell you. As I noted it's rather confusing because of the gendermark system. Personally I don't care whichever way it is because it's all femmes/female-presenting. So yeah, it's lesbians. I enjoy reading about lesbians. As far as I can tell the concept of trans doesn't exist in the book and non-binary is taboo. However it's entirely unclear what it even means practically to change a gendermark.

>>22595008
Maybe someday. That generally isn't where my interests lie though. If you had entered the Ratings Contest you'd have a chance for me to read what you wanted. What's your personal cut off for it to be dino? Apparently I haven't finished any fantasy novel older than 1968. Yes, that means what it means. So go differences. The vast majority of what I've read overall is from this century. I'm entirely fine with that making me an outlier. I'm not here to cater to anyone other than myself. I'm mostly indifferent to whether anyone reads and responds to them. As I've said several times before, I do what I do because it's what I want to do.

>> No.22595789

>>22594782
He doesn't have long left to live anyway, so I don't blame him from enjoying the years he has left with his money.

>> No.22595794

>>22595789
His agent probably has Sanderson on speed-dial for when he croaks.

>> No.22595804

>>22595794
GRRM has stated multiple times his story will not be finished when he dies. If he puts that into his will there is nothing his publisher can do.

>> No.22595815

>>22594854
read Past Master and Fourth Mansions. Then you'll know

>> No.22595823

>>22595804
I will make AI finish it.

>> No.22595832

>>22595823
He has sued those who have used AI to finish it already and they've taken it down.

>> No.22595847

>>22595832
I'm not gonna post it online. Just for my own consumption, with all the ships and plot twists I want it in it, all personally tailored to my tastes.

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>>22595690
Help, i can't stop prompting

>> No.22595959

>>22594639
I mean the world is only inverted from the perspective of the people near the engine

>> No.22595980

How do you guys feel about Brandon Sanderson?

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>>22595980
i NEED Kaladin/Sylph romance

>> No.22595999

>>22595980
Really bad, dry prose. Other authors I'm constantly cracking a grin while reading, with him it's just so fucking boring and his attempts at humour make me cringe.

>> No.22596024

Just finished Report On Probability A. Maybe the shortest waste of time I've read in my life.

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AI!

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>>22592253
>>22593302

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>>22591004
What fictional girls and women would have the most dramatic and animated responses to being raped, imprisoned and enslaved? I've been obsessing about Suletta Mercury and Madoka Kaname, but surely there are other ones out there?

>> No.22596441

>>22591004
How do I learn enough science to write sci Fi?

>> No.22596629

>>22596441
Don't worry about it, it's not a huge barrier to writing science fiction.

>> No.22596632

>>22595980
He's got an issue with being extremely repetitive in his exposition, and likes to constantly retread character arcs in his longer series, but he does write a fairly good plot. Sometimes they're even good on reread.

>> No.22596704

Book of the New Sun or Hyperion?

>> No.22596707

>>22596704
BotNS desu

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>>22596704

>> No.22596743

>>22596704
Hyperion/Endymion if you don't really want to read BotNS + UotNS + BotLS and BotSS + a couple of short stories

>> No.22596761

>>22595980
i think he's fairly braindead writing the same shlock over and over, like a Capeshit version of Stephen King, but I just watched his livestream where he spent an hour shitting on the Wheel of Time Season 2 finale, so he can't be all bad

>> No.22596774

>>22596724
me on the

>> No.22596831

>>22596724
Did the AI copy a North Korean propaganda poster?

>> No.22596928

>>22596704
Hyperion and Fall.

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Any of you cunts read Too Like the Lightning?

The author's blog is pretty good

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Is The Three-Body-Diagram worth reading if:
>I think the fermi "paradox" is bullshit and the rare earth hypothesis is probably the correct answer
>I will be annoyed with pro-authoritarianism propaganda aka party technocrats save the day

>> No.22596970

>>22596968
*Three-Body-Problem

>> No.22596990

>>22596968
>women are the cause of literally every single problem in the series
>gigachad neet is the hero for a book and a half
>gigachad american dabs on the rest of humanity
>uhh videogames
>chinabad causes the war
>kino random space stuff
>kino sophon
>kino faery tale
I loved it. Its kind of dumb but consistently entertaining.

>fermi
Its dark forest theory here boyo

Techfaggots save the day
>humanity winning lol

>> No.22596996

Is our Severian a retarded city slicker coomer?

>> No.22597015

>>22596990
okay thanks, I'll check it out then

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>>22595815
>Past Master
I'll need to read Utopia first, I suppose. Can I just read Utopia, or are there prerequisites to that too?
Here's the next three Lafferty story ratings anyway:
>Interurban Queen, 7.0
>Thus We Frustrate Charlemagne 8.9
>In Our Block, 5.1

>> No.22597170

>>22596956
>The author's blog is pretty good
I checked and it's pure Vantablack coal

>> No.22597179

>>22597123
>Brother Nosestein, forget not the Geneseed!

>> No.22597181

>>22596956
>the author
inb4 shitstorm and derailed thread

>> No.22597183

>>22596996
Big time

>> No.22597186

>>22595959
that doesn't make its consequences any less true though, they do live in a fundamentally different world, despite being wrong about some basic things. it's part of why i liked it so much

>> No.22597192

>>22596956
It starts decent enough, but falls apart towards the end. Overall it's like an off-brand Diamond Age.

>> No.22597195

>>22596968
it LARPs as hard scifi, but then spends long pages on detailed description of space magic bullshit
would not redeem/10

>> No.22597199

>>22594124
>Karl Edward Wagner's Kane
are the stories set in the modern day any good?

>> No.22597207

>>22594360
>Night's Master has a literal flat earth with a hole to hell, although the shape isn't plot relevant
Awesome book.

>> No.22597366

>>22591099
All these covers look so fucking similar. I swear I've seen this exact font and art style a hundred times since 2020. Virtually all of Adrian Tchaikovsky's novels look(ed) like this.
>Orbit
Has to be why.

>> No.22597367

>>22596831
You can specify it to draw anything in any style. The only limit is character count and censorship, until someone makes a hardware version you can download.

>> No.22597377

For me? It's Gulliver's Travels.

>> No.22597381

>>22591004
How come did Stephen Baxter went to shit so hard? It's like his last 4-5 books were written by goddamn interns.

>> No.22597453

>>22597181
What

>>22597192
Thanks. Not really a fan of Stephenson so I doubt I'll care for off-brand either

>> No.22597479

Sanderson has gone back to doing full damage control for Rafe and the Wheel of Time show. I don't want to see anymore nonsense from his fans here trying to say that he's just being diplomatic to get his own show made. He just called Rafe a hero.

>> No.22597490

>>22597479
pathetic how far he'll go to get a show of his own

>> No.22597494

>>22594360
>an hour-glass shaped world? That's actually kinda cool, i wish I had come up with that.
Can you imagine the endless icy wastes that stretch to the ends of the world? An infinity to wander into and die? societies hiding in the far off ice somehow? I kinda want to explore that concept now.
I was recently thinking about a torus-shaped planet where the sun travels through the hole. it would perform a figure-8 orbit, always going through the hole from "above" but sometimes coming from "left" and sometimes from "right". So there would be cardinal directions relating to the hub and rim of the world and the direction of the sun (kind of like on Discworld). The outer rim would be a stretch of ice, the inside would be a hot desert and travellers would have to cross either to get to the other side.

>> No.22597527

>>22597494
>So there would be cardinal directions relating to the hub and rim of the world and the direction of the sun (kind of like on Discworld). The outer rim would be a stretch of ice, the inside would be a hot desert and travellers would have to cross either to get to the other side.
This could also be true of a planet if it was positioned such that the most habitable regions were polar

>> No.22597529

>>22597494
>>22597527
Just as an addendum the world of Dichronauts is much, much weirder than simply being hourglass shaped

https://www.gregegan.net/DICHRONAUTS/01/World.html

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>>22597527
You mean like tidally locked but still rotating like uranus is? the axis of rotation pointing towards the sun? Or something else?
Also, i believe that seeing that the land literally curves up in a north-south direction but not east-west would also lead to a difference in cardinal directions.
Then again, if you'r on either to top or bottom of the donus, you wouldn't see that, so maybe there would be even more cardinal directions: according to movement of the sun and according to the shape of the world

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should i read The Aspect-Emperor if i got spoiled that the Great Ordeal ultimately fails?
assuming i should, it's been a while since i read PoN, what are some key points i need to recall? i remember that it ends with Kellhus as God-Emperor with Esmenet by his side and Cucka renouncing him and leaving his court. also iirc Cnaiur is in league with the Consult after being seduced by false-Serwe. anything else?

>> No.22597553

>>22597543
Mmmm donus…. Mmmm ggllllaaaagghhh

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>>22597553
Yes, I learned to use "torus-shaped" instead of "donut-shaped" when talking to Bing's dall-3

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>annoyed by shitty novels not describing how characters look like
>use AI to generate art of the characters from what little details I could spot.
>now those AI generated characters are I imagined them when I read
Kinda worked out nicely, desu.
I should do this more.

>> No.22597624

make authors writing female leads is the great Satan
>marvel dialogue
>bisexual
>science? FUCK YEAH

>> No.22597631

>>22597624
*male

>> No.22597694

>>22597549
>should i read The Aspect-Emperor if i got spoiled that the Great Ordeal ultimately fails?
Any other spoilers to repeat during the shitposter's daily autistic fit of spam?

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>>22592105
Minthara is great. There are a few waifus in BG3.

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>>22597835
This old lady had waifu potential

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>>22597852
This middle-aged wine mum did too.

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What about the best isekai progression monster girl harem books? Pic related.

>> No.22597864

>>22597479
He probably read what you guys said in the /tv/ threads. You really made it out like he's shitting on the show. Now he has to damage control, because of you made him look like a jerk.

>> No.22597867

>>22597624
All the male authored female characters I've encountered are the short black cropped hair, pale skinned edge lord types.

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Any of you able to read through this from start to finish?

>> No.22597877

>>22597864
You're joking but also correct in a way. He livestreamed his reaction to the season 2 finale and came across as pretty negative. The showtrannies started calling him a hater and bookcloak (kek) and so he had to spend the next 12 hours on reddit saying how much he likes the show and how big Rafe's cock is.
>>22597867
Those are the best kind of women so of course men would write more of them

>> No.22597880

>>22597868
This isn't >>>/lit/wg/ but don't do that weird
>person says word
>performs action
>repeat last word they just said
thing

>> No.22597908

>>22597880
Won't post to here again, my bad.

Also, that double-word thing sounds better as I picture the character saying what they're saying. People do it in real life all the time, but I can imagine it might be jarring to read. Will change.

>> No.22597914

>>22597908
The Sun is serious. For you, young, or whatever you call yourself. You have to just give up and work quickly in the opposite direction w/o trying to exemplify literally giving me ultimate freedom. The Sun has you locked, it's not moving even when you move. You'll have to be quick to end up resolving that. It is one of the worst experiences possible for such a great, may I say to you, crime that took no note of the victims solitude. You're gonna need to take note of this if you want any chance of avoiding that. If you want more evidence, consider the Sun has two targets. Read all of it including it's imperfections, all the sun together. It's readable. It not only tells you the conditions, but also what you need to do to escape. If you think you have a chance, try relating the suns read to parts of yourself or dimensionality and how they might give you pain.

>> No.22598075

Best made up sport in science fiction and fantasy?

>> No.22598084

>>22597549
Use spoiler tags you absolute fucking piece of shit retarded fucking mouthbreathing idiot.

>> No.22598101

>pick up a dropped 2000-chapter novel
>dropped it at around c500-1000
>can't remember shit aside from the rough outline
>start from the beginning
Oh boy. Wouldn't it be funny if I burnt out before even catchibg up to where I left off? Haha...

>> No.22598171

>>22597914
Yeah, will keep that in mind going forward.

>> No.22598186

>>22598101
name?

>> No.22598193

>>22598075
Rimbal from Academagia

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opinions on pic related

>> No.22598295

Why is no one replying to my bait?

>> No.22598308

It is phobic to not like the Wheel of Time show. I don't know what kind, but it's very phobic.

>> No.22598367

Really surprised at the quality of Reverend Insanity. Of the couple dozen I've read of this genre over the years, it's easily most the most compelling.

I'm 150 chapters in currently. Any anons know if this quality is maintained throughout?

>> No.22598377

>>22598367
it only gets better

>> No.22598405

>>22598377
Ah well you've put a smile on my face now anon

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>>22597694
>>22598084
fuck, anons, it really didn't cross my mind when i posted. i subconsciously took it as a given that everyone here knows this because of how much certain people spam Bakker, so it kind of slipped out. if this really spoiled it for you, i am truly sorry

>> No.22598466

>>22598458
I'm up to The White-Luck Warrior. Never read the series before. If you didn't mean it, it's all good. Just be more careful next time.

>> No.22598474

>>22598466
>If you didn't mean it, it's all good
i truly don't get people who do this kind of thing for sport. i can verbalise their reasons (Schadenfreude/getting off to others' misery), but i can't comprehend them. anyway, sorry about that, my mind was elsewhere
how's the book?

>> No.22598495

>>22598474
>i truly don't get people who do this kind of thing for sport.
You mean spoiling books/movies/vidya/etc on purpose? Yeah, just a form a trolling I suppose.
I haven't started it yet, I'm reading some CAS Zothique short stories before moving on to the next Bakker. Will post updates in a few days when it's in full-swing.

>> No.22598504

>>22598458
I didn't complain. I asked for more spoilers.

>> No.22598509

>>22598495
how was the 1st book, then? does it hold up to PoN?

>> No.22598526
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22598526

Is there a good analysis of how blatantly imperialist the Culture is?

>> No.22598536

Reminder that fantasychads made this general, and scifibetas deserve the rope!

>> No.22598585

Reminder that space opera and planetary romance KINGS are the true lords of this general and the shitflinging of the lesser tribes is irrelevant to them.

>> No.22598592

>>22598526
There's a decent write up in Millenium that agrees with my take on the Culture, except its sadly before the War on Terror gives an even greater real life context to the events of the series. The Culture is not just imperialist, its an imperialism of the conscience. Through eradication of material need they have essentially turned their entire civilization into subsisting on the manifest of Good.

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1177/03058298010300031601

That's from the December 2001 edition of the journal, you don't get to see the full liberal interventionalism of America until shortly after that (although I know that Kosovo was still in Banks' mind).

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>>22598458
>everyone here knows this because of how much certain people spam Bakker
It's literally just one spammer.

>> No.22598628

>>22598585
>space opera and planetary romance
Well these two are rather different aren't they? And the latter has been dead for decades unless there is an underground movement I'm unaware of.

>> No.22598656

>>22598628
Name 3 planetary romances that don't fit into the space opera genre

>> No.22598657

>>22598618
Yes and spamming ai generated fatties is so much better. Kill yourself seethe machine

>> No.22598662

Can you guys recommend me some good vampire books?
No gay ass romance shit pls

>> No.22598680

>>22598656
John Carter is the only one I've and it certainly doesn't, and if other Planetary Romance works are anything like JC then they ain't space opera

>> No.22598684

>>22598662
I read Zero Sum and Zero Sight a few years back and thought they were insanely good. They're romance though and the third book'll never come out.

>> No.22598691

>>22598186
Library of Heaven's Path

>> No.22598693

>>22598680
I accept your concession

>> No.22598697

>>22598662
Empire of the Vampire

>> No.22598718

>>22598656
Planetary Romance has more in common with Sword and Sorcery than it does with Space Opera. The typical story in the genre is basically Conan but with aliens in place of apes and demons, and mad scientists with psionic powers in place of sorcerers.

>> No.22598733

>>22598718
>science and magic are interchangeable
Shut the fuck up, retard.

>> No.22598779

>>22598526
>implying there's anything wrong with imperialism when you're Culture

>> No.22598806

>>22598628
Unless you count my schizophrenic scribblings at 3 am on a tuesday as an underground movement, then no there's probably nothing.

>> No.22598840

>>22598592
Sorry Anon, that link won't load.

>> No.22598846

>>22598733
When they are used interchangeably...

>> No.22598849

>>22598779
That makes them no better than the socialists who pretend imperialism is bad until commies do it which makes it based and morally correct.

>> No.22598888

Would you read a cowboy western story where said cowboys hunt down werewolves?

>> No.22598934

>>22598888
Sure. I like the occasional weird west story.

>> No.22598939

>>22598888
Isn't that a videogame? Or was it werewolves AND vampires?

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>4th volume of each novel
>this guy turns into into a full blown feminist
But why?

>> No.22598968

>>22598945
where

>> No.22599011

>>22598968
Citadel and Exodus

>> No.22599030
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>>22598945
People who think Wolfe is a misogynist can't read.

>> No.22599077

What do you think of true names as a magic system? I have an idea, but I'm curious about people's perceptions of it in general.

>> No.22599079

Any misogynistic fantasy books where women are treated like garbage? What about the opposite?
no bakker because I hate gay shit

>> No.22599090

>>22599077
True name like in black company? I think it's silly. "I need to know the true name to cast this powerful spell on him/her". Why not use some weird ass ritual? I find them way more interesting.

>> No.22599092

>>22599077
cool and shows at least a surface level understanding of occult magic

>> No.22599097

>>22591300
The Culture Series features "orbitals" which are ring shaped mega structures in space and also multi-layered dyson spheres

>> No.22599192

>>22598075
Hussade

>> No.22599193

Whoever came up with true name shit in the first place? It's so stupid and overused.

>> No.22599206

>>22599193
Our pre-history ancestors developed lots of superstition around names

If you mean more recently I'm just going to blame Crowley

>> No.22599288

How do I sell The Shadow of the Torturer to my buddies. Catholic dune hasnt cut it

>> No.22599303

>>22599288
"Bro read this book, and autistic edgy torturer fucks his gilf grandma."

>> No.22599320

>>22599079
misogyny doesn't come without homosexuality unfortunately

>> No.22599331

>>22599288
Les Miserables meets Futurama

>> No.22599333

>>22599079
The first Foundation is kinda funny. The only woman who speaks (only other woman mentioned is some dude’s wife) is a gold digging turbo bitch.

>> No.22599404

>>22598733
>planetary romance
>"science"
lol, lmao

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>>22599331
kek

>> No.22599524

I need a comfy book bros

>> No.22599543

>>22599524
Valdemar

>> No.22599711

>>22597877
>he had to spend the next 12 hours on reddit saying how much he likes the show
he was still obviously very annoyed by some of the delusional people talking shit about him. the wot and wotshow reddits are so suppressed by shill mods and classic reddit downvote echochamberism that the only people left are truly insane and think rafe knows better than rj and sanderson

>> No.22599932

>>22598662
Necroscope

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>>22599288
Honestly, you need a high iq to understand BoTNS and appreciate it.

>> No.22599941

>>22598662
Salem’s Lot is extremely good. Listened to it back and forth on a long drive to the beach and back with my wife. Ended up having an hour left, we got in and listened to the rest in bed. 10/10, creepy comfy king kino

>> No.22599949

>>22599941
>listened

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>>22599949
Yeah?

>> No.22599974

how do you guys feel about made up plants around real stars

im trying to plot the journey of my characters as well as map out the geopolitical landscape of the setting and so far ive found some "may or may not have an exoplanet" systems to use but im having a hard time finding enough systems in the correct locations relative to each other/earth

im definitely gonna have to increase the scale I think. so far ive been using these to pick planets

http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/50lys.html
https://www.universeguide.com/search

>> No.22600001

>>22595665
Not related to the enterprise or main series at all? I thought I knew of most of the out there stuff but doesn't ring a bell, I hope someone knows

>> No.22600148

>>22599974
I could not give the tiniest fraction of a fuck.

>> No.22600216

>>22592395
>Worm
lol
>TWI
lmao
>HPMOR
top kek even

you'd be better off reading Warlock of the Magus World and that shit is like reading a rice cracker

>> No.22600228

I cannot fathom the mind of the webnovelfag. Why commit so much time to something of such low quality? In the time you have devoted to TWI (etc), you could've read the entire western canon and basically every classic fantasy novel and short story ever written.

>> No.22600248

OP here, I'm not making the next thread. If you want the thread to continue, do it yourself. Wait until this thread reaches page 9 or 10.

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>Mother of Learning
>got to the part where MC made a deal with the spider queen.
Is it gonna get good soon?
It has been extremely slow so far, and I just don't see Zorian's skill will excel in terms of progression, he is all over the place.

>> No.22600260

>>22599193
it is a cool concept though, specially when done right. i first knew it through Earthsea Wizard and it blew my mind, it works so well in that book the moment at the end where he names the shadow still gives me chills even though it was so long ago

>> No.22600262

>>22600148
perhaps im being too autistic about it

>> No.22600269

>>22599974
thanks for the links bro

it's good to try to resemble reality but you are being too autistic about it

>> No.22600303

>>22600269
the universe guide is kinda neat . you can punch in a star and get all the info you want, so even your made up planets can have certain realistic touches besed on the stars characteristics

i think im just gonna wing it and use whatever systems work best. its not like im looking to feature full on garden worlds like earth, mostly just some partially-formatted agricultural zones in the nicer planets and dead mine-worlds with just-serviceable atmosphere

>> No.22600324

>>22600303
the map is shitty and incomplete though, god damn, i need to find a better one

>> No.22600594

>>22599331
Superb

>> No.22600653

>>22600250
Vol. 1 ending is kino, just wait

>> No.22600716

>>22600262
you're just in the wrong thread. this isn't writing general.
>>>/lit/wg/

>> No.22600720

>>22597199
checked. I haven't read all Kane yet but I wasn't under the impression that any of the stories are set in the modern day. Which stories are you referring to? And "modern day" as in "Kane is in Texas, USA circa 2019"??

>> No.22600764

Been rereading Blood Music for the first time in years, pretty comfy read. Please suggest novels in a similar vein.

>> No.22600772

>>22591036
When will you die?

>> No.22600779

>>22600720
I haven't found them yet but apparently there are Kane stories set in the modern day the general gist is that he's a motorbike riding gunslinger at night and reclusive ceo of kane industries by day or something

>> No.22600789

>>22591472
Shut. The fuck. UP.

>> No.22600796

>>22591571
Faggot ass simp. Kys

>> No.22600801

There was this fantasy series written by some woman that was set on a planet orbiting a red dwarf star that was in a perpetual ice age... I can't remember the title but the setting sounded interesting.

They're fairly old books I think, 70s, 80s to 90s I think.

Sound familiar to anyone?

>> No.22600807

>>22597199
>>22600779
>>22600720
>not just looking at the publication order
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?1028+None

>> No.22600808

>>22600228
The mind of a chink is truly an enigma

>> No.22600818

>>22598662
Dracula, DUH

>> No.22600831

>>22596704
Everything after Fall of Hyperion is dogshit

>> No.22600834

>>22596441
You really only need to learn actual science if you're planning on doing hard sci-fi and hard science fiction is generally boring bullshit.

>> No.22600839

>>22594642
Why would this "no fun allowed" "you must grind until you die" dipshit EVER read science fiction?

>> No.22600842

>>22594360
>Dichronauts
This world sounds too confusing for me to visualize properly

>> No.22600848

>>22593144
I enjoy Dune but I've never bothered to read beyond Messiah even after all these years

>> No.22600854

>>22592221
I don't know if I'd call Piranesi "intelligent" but it sure as shit isn't sword n sorcey shit.

>> No.22600979

>>22600854
>Tolkien
>sword and sorcery
Go back

>> No.22601040

>>22600979
Are you implying that there isn't a large amount of swords and magic use in Tolkien's works?

Retard.

>> No.22601050

I've seen reviewers call Bakker's Second Apocalypse an 'anti-epic'. Why is this? I'm assuming they're thinking he subverts the tropes of 'epic fantasy'? I guess his MC is an evil psycho

>> No.22601059

>>22601040
>I was only pretending to be retarded

>> No.22601064

>>22601059
Shit bait, retard. Here's your last (You)

>> No.22601071

>>22600801
I doubt you're thinking of this, but the book Red Sister is set on a planet like that.

>> No.22601072

>>22601064
Not sure what you expected from someone who seemingly believes Tolkein wrote the only worthwhile Fantasy ever.

>> No.22601078

Bakkerbros: does Maithanet know the Kellhusis a fraud?

>> No.22601084
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>>22601050
the mc is ubermensch david koresh

>> No.22601086

>>22601072
Nice samefag, mate.
>>22601040
You didn't know what sword and sorcery was, got called out on it, then doubled down and posted obvious bait in an effort to make everybody think that you knew what it was all along. You are a fucking faggot and need to go and read something worthwhile instead of your mindnumbing reddit webnovel chinkshit. Please do not ever post here again, you fucking mouthbreathing idiot.

>> No.22601091

>>22601086
Man, now you're just embarrassing yourself. Just stop.

>> No.22601093

>anons getting this assmad over genre definitions
>>>/mu/

>> No.22601096

>>22601093
Neutral Milk Hotel is shit. SHIT!

>> No.22601102

This is your brain on TVtropes.com

>> No.22601105

>>22601064
>>22601086
Nice samefag, mate.

>> No.22601106

>>22601102
Hey... TVtropes is fun tho

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>>22601105
Like I said, embarrassing.

>> No.22601123

>>22601106
We are adults here. There is no place for fun.

>> No.22601158

pathetic thread

>> No.22601181

>>22601158
Nice samefag, mate.

>> No.22601185

Going to the bathroom now. I really hope no one posts the new thread while i'm there.

>> No.22601217

>>22601158
>>22601181
samefag

>> No.22601221

New!!!

>>22601218
>>22601218
>>22601218