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You have read the works of the most important living author, 2023 Nobel-prize winner Jon Fosse, right?

>> No.22569074

I'm not reading n*norsk

>> No.22569081

>>22569074
Denmark loyalists get out

>> No.22569110

Not yet. Where do I start?

>> No.22569124

I remember that there was a fad about his works here on /lit/ some year ago. A lot of litfags thought that he was really good. I will read Septology and tell you how it is

>> No.22569127

Norwegian is growing in stature as the sixth or seventh language I want to learn. This is helpful.

>> No.22569138

>>22569110
I recommend starting with the Trilogy, it's a lot shorter than Septology and a good intro to that style.

>> No.22569151

>>22569072
I haven't even heard about this guy. Is he good or pozzed?

>> No.22569157

>>22569151
If by pozzed you mean that he's staunchly anti-fascism, pro feminism, pro open borders, pro LGBT, etc., then yes, he's "pozzed", but you likely weren't going to read him anyway, were you?

>> No.22569167

>>22569157
why do you say that? many of his works are quite explicitly religious (like the recent Kvitleik, not yet translated I guess), and he very rarely offers an opinion on anything related to politics or really anything outside literature. saying he's "staunchly pro open borders" for example is unfounded I think.

>> No.22569170

>>22569151
He's good, writes a lot of almost transcendent stuff, and if he's "pozzed" he keeps it to himself. It's not deep state propganda, that's for sure.

>> No.22569250

Norwegian here. This guy is a joke. His writing is fine, but he doesn’t deserve the prize. He also converted to Catholicism after being an alcoholic for years because he was afraid of death or something. Very spineless guy. And before the based trad-Caths come at me, his views are like a left leaning liberal. He just chose Catholicism to add to his fake mysterious image. I immediately lose all respect for Norwegians who say they read and enjoy him. Now he will become even more popular among pseuds and normies. Great! Just what our joke of a literary scene needed

>> No.22569298

>>22569250
Don't you have some climbing to do or something, Nesbø?

>> No.22569303

Yes, and I am happy.
>>22569110
Aliss at the Fire is a good starting point, as it's pretty short. From there you'll want to progress chronologically with him, since the gimmick is that he reuses / slightly alters names and themes with each of his stories, so that each book is like a different, clearer depiction of *the truth*.
That's for his novels though, not sure about his plays.
>>22569151
He defended Handke's winning the Nobel prize despite all the people calling for the guy to be cancelled, so take that as you will.

>> No.22569305

>>22569250
go to bed, dag

>> No.22569308

>>22569170
The Nobel Prize itself is quite literally deep state propaganda

>> No.22569329

He deserves it but he got the Nordic privilege. Only 2 Nordics actually deserved the prize out of all that ever received it.

>> No.22569351

>>22569329
It’s so funny that Nordic privilege is a thing, and I agree it’s a thing, because what it really means is that Nordics are targets and victims considering the Nobel is a propaganda tool used to socially engineering educated and cultured people.

>> No.22569359

>>22569167
He's "concern trolling."

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The first page of Septology, for those that want a sample.

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The opening of Septology, for those that want a sample.

>> No.22569387

>>22569072
They threw you chuds a bone and you suddenly talk about the nobels being good again. Nobels are shit, even if a white man gets them.

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>>22569375
or here's a sample from Melancholy

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>>22569072
I don’t take Nobel prizes seriously anymore. First it was the peace prize, then literature, now even something as removed from politics as the physics prize is getting pozzed. Some Belarusian nobody got the literature prize, because of her libtard writing directed at the Soviet and the post-Soviet establishments.
They recently awarded a physics prize for “climate predictions” or whatever. Then there’s that Jewess who got it for the black hole radio imaging, which I can guarantee you she did not take the lead role in.

The SJW crowd really can’t create, only poison the well for everyone else. I don’t see mathematicians shoving their way into Nobel awards. They don’t seethe and screech at it. They just have their own Fields and Abel prizes instead. But God forbid all the liberal monkeys come up with their own environmentalism and whamen in science awards. They know nobody would care so they resort to grifting.

>> No.22569407

>>22569151
He's a Catholic convert.

>> No.22569423

>>22569250
>He just chose Catholicism to add to his fake mysterious image
Well, the Swedish Academy is made up of like 60% Catholic converts as well, so I guess it worked out OK.

>> No.22569428

>>22569394
>Then there’s that Jewess who got it for the black hole radio imaging
What. That can't be right. They really gave her a nbel?

>> No.22569430

>>22569428
No, >>22569394 is just a trolling /pol/tard

>> No.22569452

>>22569375
>>22569390
snooze

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>>22569428
>>22569430
>everything that doesn’t align with my echo chamber ideology is /pol/
Suck a dick, nigger. I dare you to prove me wrong. They started to give out physics prizes to women like it’s candy since 2018. I do not for the life of me believe that we suddenly have so many whamen geniuses running around. Women in physics are glorified librarians/computers. They don’t create anything new. Their idea of a scientific paper is “the more crap I slap on it, the more convoluted it sounds, and the more papers I reference, the smarter I am.” My experience has been the exact opposite: the most impactful papers are 5-20 pages at most with little outside reference. That’s why they’re impactful in the first place; they rely on the first principles. Women rely on others, they have no principles to speak of.
t. have personal experience with female faculty, postdocs, and doctoral students in the physics department

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>>22569481
I thought you meant this one, which would be absurd.

>> No.22569499

>>22569072
Watch /lit/ hardly respond to this vs. if some "woc" had won to rage about

>> No.22569530

>>22569499
Everyone has to be offended and raging here

>> No.22569555

>>22569497
Yeah. This is the bitch that came to my mind too. It would have been hilarious. Now I'm kind of rooting for her to get a nobel lmao.

>> No.22569580

>>22569497
she cute doe

>> No.22569658

>>22569072
>nordoids giving themselves prizes
Shocker

>> No.22569665

>>22569390
Yeah, nah

>> No.22569672

>>22569394
>their own environmentalism and whamen in science awards.
They exist. No one cares about them.

>> No.22569685

>>22569672
read the whole post before responding, dumb dumb

>> No.22569719

>>22569481
>Their idea of a scientific paper is “the more crap I slap on it, the more convoluted it sounds, and the more papers I reference, the smarter I am.”
Yeah, that's all of physics in the last few decades.

>> No.22569770

>>22569375
>>22569390
goyslop

>> No.22569777

>>22569497
>for helping develop
So she did nothing and is just the poster girl.

>> No.22569780

>>22569375
Interesting style, faint schizo mystic vibes.

>> No.22570076

>>22569072
I've read 300 pages of Knausgard's book about his time at the writing academy with Fosse as a teacher and his character didn't make much of an impression. I don't recall him saying anything interesting or using any interesting teaching method or making any particular impression. But in the end it's his writing that counts and I have yet to read him.

>> No.22570082

>>22569250
Do you like Knausgard?

>> No.22570121

>>22569072
Yes.

>>22569151
Good. If you like Beckett you will probably like him.

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>>22569250

>> No.22570925

>>22569072
Just Aliss, the trilogy, and Melancholy.

>> No.22571001

>>22569394
One day people will have to wake up to the fact that we’ve been living under a liberal-progressive regime, not unlike the way the Russians lived under the Bolshevik Soviet regime, for over a century now and all of these things are simply social engineering and propaganda tools. The only thing crazy about it is how successfully they’ve managed to get Westerners not to realize it, because I promise you everyone else in the world perfectly understands this.

>> No.22571014

>>22569580
I think that is the idea.

>> No.22571035

>>22571001
Then /pol/ will be bored and have nothing to bitch about

>> No.22571149

My dream is to move in in norway because the weather will only get better and because scandinavians are not as cucked as the europeans.

>> No.22571159

>>22571001
the liberal psyop started with the atheist revolutions, and then when they decided to create public school for the peasants where peasants kids are told by public servants that republics and democracies and liberalism are awesome

>> No.22571212

>>22571149
>scandinavians are not as cucked as the europeans
lol . they're the worst

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>>22569250
terminally online + direction brain
grim

>> No.22571239

>>22569250
>not a single word about his writing
Yep, it's /lit/ alright.

>> No.22571247

Norseshit is boring.

>> No.22571256

>>22569072
Nobel prize is the ultimate indicator he's shit.

>> No.22571264

>>22571239
Sad indeed! When lit actually talks about books it’s gossipy like tmz. Any which way to avoid the content I suppose

>> No.22571281

>all these butthurt samis hilling for their guy ITT
KEK, fucking reindeer eater nepotism

>> No.22572618

Handke was the best choice of the last 20 years. Ishiguro was the worst. Dylan is a meme.

>> No.22572642

>>22569072
>2023 Nobel-prize winner
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>> No.22572663

>>22569390
>Tits look nice
>Yes, all right
Funniest shit I've read all week.

>> No.22572828

>>22569390
This is literally pickle rick tier.

>> No.22572884

>>22569390
christ that's awful
thanks for saving me 7 dollars

>> No.22573074

>>22569390
It's pathetic how atheist are just sex addicts, no wonder women thrive in democracy

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>Have to learn a language with only 4-5m speakers to read his works in the original translation
>That's not enough, they actually have a second language that it's written in called New-Norwegian who only some of the people at the west coast of the country uses that you have to learn
/lit/ bros.. did we finally find the author to act greatly snobbish about when it comes to OG translations.

>> No.22573353

>>22569250
>>22569407

>>22572224

>> No.22573376

>>22573187
His books are best read in nynorsk, translating them to bokmål doesn't work, no one reads them in bokmål. There doesn't even exist a translation to bokmål. English and other languages wouldn't even make sense.

Nynorsk, which I would call neo-norwegian in english rather than new-norwegian, is more of an attempt to create a true norwegian language after written west norse died and danish took over. Its closer to what written west norse would be like if it didn't die and continued to evolve.

>> No.22573774

>>22569074
>bokmal chad
Me too

>> No.22573777

>>22569072
>OP is so illiterate he actually thinks Jon Fosse is a "literal who" author
lmao at your life pleb

>> No.22574036

>>22569351
I don't think of the Nobel prize as a successful engineering tool tho - they gave a Nobel prize for literature to Churchill should be a red flag.

>> No.22574115

>>22569390
If this is how the rest of the book reads, this hack literally frauded a Nobel by copying Hamsun but poorly - who won the Nobel over 100 years ago.

>> No.22574742

>>22571149
1. Everyone seems to think it's good to move to Norway because we're more left leaning/right leaning. Doesn't make any sense, but you're not welcome either way.
2. If the gulf stream changes due to global warming then we're fucked. We're as far north as Alaska but the stream is keeping the temperature nice.