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Doubting Shakespeare's authorship is a very cheap way to (I guess) look intelligent.
>oh, he wasn't educated!
he had SOVL.

>> No.22564678

Classist English scum eternally seething that their greatest writer only went to grammar school

>> No.22564682

>>22564677
Isn't he in jail yet?

>> No.22564688

Funniest shit I've ever seen.

>> No.22564693

>>22564677
People who think Shakespeare wasn't educated enough to write are the same people who genuinely believe you need a degree in English to become a writer

>> No.22564699

>>22564678
Debt-ridden degree-holding scum eternally seething that they'll never be as well-regarded as a playwright who only went to grammar school

>> No.22564728

>>22564682
(Anti-Stratfordian)

>> No.22564811

>>22564682
was released a month or two ago

>> No.22564815

is this the kind of shite zoomers find funny?

>> No.22564817

>>22564815
Oh - it's so funny that Shakespeare couldn't have written the works? Please explain why.

>> No.22564835

>>22564677
His name is an old meme, not a real name. Soldiers shake their spears at the enemy like monkeys doing power displays, stroking their ego/penis.
Feeling the need to attach your name to things is the same kind of ego masturbation. You're wondering if Billy the Masturbator was his real name, maybe it was.

>> No.22564868

>Shakespeare
>greatest literature
I'd take classical Chinese novels over Shakespeare anyday. That shit's boring and borderline unreadable.

>> No.22564957

>>22564868
shakespeare is nonironically better as an audiobook or as a play, since that's what they were - theatre meant to be seen

>> No.22564963

>>22564868
I love Chinese fantasy, it reminds of GRR Martin and other great western fantasy. Shakespeare is so stuck up with le psychological depth and le iambic pentameter

>> No.22564969

>>22564963
>Shakespeare is so stuck up
it was really not, it's filled with fart jokes and Falstaff
it's just really old english that seems extremely stuffy now

>> No.22564979

There was no Shakespeare, it was just Christopher Marlowe trying to retire from being a spy.

>> No.22565027

>>22564817
This tiktok shit is so dumb. Stay off the board please

>> No.22565032

>>22564963
GoT is pulp

>> No.22566830

>>22565027
The whole "Shakespeare" was a code name" thing is for midwits. Lurk moar.

>> No.22567022

>>22566830
He was a simple man who learned how to write and reference esoteric texts by observing the behavior of birds.

>> No.22567036

>>22564969
It’s Early Modern English Anon….

>> No.22567038

>>22567022
He referenced them the same way /lit/ does, by not having read them but heard about them enough

>> No.22567070

>>22567038
That's the downside of ornithomancy.

>> No.22567955

>>22567036
which is old... autist

>> No.22568444

>>22566830
Dunning Krueger at its finest

>> No.22568456

>>22567955
Old English is the language of Beowulf. Unless by “old” you mean human lifespan standards rather than language ones, in which case the Great Gatsby is in really old English as well

>> No.22568463

>>22568456
it's 400 plus years "old"
i.e. "really old"...
obviously it's not "Old English"

>> No.22568467

>>22568444
>b-but Francis Bacon left a hidden cypher in the texts!
that's for people with slow brains, frankly

>> No.22568547

>>22566830
I don't care. Stop posting tiktoks on the literature board. Brain dead zoomers.

>> No.22568550

>>22568547
>too stupid to have an opinion on shakespeare
go back to your subreddit

>> No.22568556

>>22568550
I dont know what a subreddit is. Go back to tiktok? I don't care about the Shakespeare thing just stop shitting up the board with your zoomer retardation.

>> No.22568558

>>22568556
Wow, great post that says nothing about literature in any way
you're a damn midwit and a skinnyfat millennial

>> No.22568560

>>22564677
>"OH, AND FRANCIS BACON LEFT A HIDDEN CIPHER"
lost

>> No.22568570

>>22568558
Your shit low effort thread is not the comment on literature you think it is. When you grow up you'll realise having a brain is more important than shooting cancer into your face and then posting it everywhere else on the internet so you can feel like you have an opinion. Dumb fucking generation I can't wait for you to fuck up the world like you did with the Internet. Fucking daddy's ipad little shatters.

>> No.22568577

>>22568570
(very upset oxfordian theorist millennial)

>> No.22568597

>>22568577
there it is, no real opinion and zero effort replies. You guys are zombies. I'm glad I missed out on your weak willed shitstorm of a generation.

>> No.22568607

>>22568597
look, the Stratfordians are the only logical choice here... I'm sorry you feel this passionate but it's the only one backed by historical tradition

>> No.22568655

>>22564835
Clearly, Shakespeare was actually black and the English have been trying to cover that up ever since

>> No.22568669

>>22564693
How did shakespeare have access to beowolf?

>> No.22568684

>>22564682
Realistically would could have happened? A rich criminal doesn't have witnesses against them or at least not for long. Evidence was quickly destroyed by loyal underlings and every person who could make an incriminating testimony was either paid or threatened to keep silent. It's the same way Till Lindemann got off the hook and if it works in Germany what makes you think Romania does a better job with upholding the law against the unstoppable force that is money and connections?

>> No.22568833

>>22564677
>zoomers role model is a human trafficking mongoloid
Grim

>> No.22568848

Andrew Tate praises trannies and I assume he chases them too. This is why he's allowed any platform at all.

>> No.22568856

>>22568833
All the other older dudes are fat cuckolds so I don't blame them.

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22569000

>>22565027
Fuck off tate

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>>22569000
>that balding pattern
ah, behold the 'alpha' of the zoomers.

>> No.22569099

>>22568463
The Great Gatsby is eighty years old. REALLY old

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>>22564677
You may not care for the occult, but it cares about your Stratfordian golden calves.

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22569148

To ALL those with reservations about Tate,

When we pose the question, "What hue graces your Bugatti?" it isn't a literal inquiry into the shade of your Bugatti.
In essence, we are inquiring, "What unique contributions can you offer that distinguish you from Tate?"
For instance, if I seek companionship, Tate's domain boasts an array of diverse women in substantial numbers.
Should my aspiration involve wealth, Tate possesses a fortune exceeding my lifetime's wildest financial desires.
In the pursuit of an exquisite abode, Tate's holdings include properties nestled in some of the world's most breathtaking locales.
Should the allure of opulent automobiles captivate, it's noteworthy that Tate possesses an impressive fleet of 33 luxury vehicles.

Tate embodies a manifestation of desires and aspirations for individuals such as myself. He has undertaken the commendable task of founding Hustlers University, aiming to empower individuals like me in achieving these dreams. He could have easily chosen a life of leisure, luxuriating in his riches, and acting in his own self-interest. Instead, he made the noble decision to extend a helping hand to individuals like myself. This choice led him to be vilified by many, making him one of the most reviled figures globally. Most individuals would have faltered and surrendered under the weight of such harassment, but he persists in championing the cause of individuals like me.

So, I implore you once more - What distinguishes you in the world, akin to the shade of your Bugatti?

>> No.22569159

>>22569148
kys

>> No.22569164

>>22564678
Life experience is the heart of good writing. Poe was broke and a pervert. Tolkien fought in WW1, Orwell in Spain.
Academics don't obtain much life experience.

>> No.22569187

>>22564677
who were real authors of:
1)Lolita
2)Infinite jest
3)Dugin's works
???

>> No.22569189

>>22569159
which specific pigment graces your own Bugatti sportscar?

>> No.22569197

>>22569189
It's red.

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>>22569197
awesome

>> No.22569227

>>22568833
Imagine thinking a half-black man with early male pattern baldness is alpha. I am ashamed

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>>22569148
What the actual fuck is a Bugatti? Some kind of male handbag?
Enlighten me

>> No.22569915

>>22564677
Why do people assume that he wasn't educated? He was entitled to attend the local grammar school where he would have been exposed to Latin and ancient literature and his works definitely reflect that. Also as a creative myself, Shakespeare possessed the kind of creativity which you start developing since your childhood. It would have been difficult to sprout such creativity without a good education during your formative years.

>>22564678
The grammar school's curriculum of his time was comparable to a modern university's. They were already reading Illiad in ancient Greek.

>> No.22569952 [DELETED] 

>>22569915
>as a creative myself
No actual artist would call himself a "creative". If you were a writer, you would call yourself a writer, or if a painter, that. Because you are nothing, you call yourself a "creative", which vaguely implies an artist. It is a word used by a pseuds who thinks posting about Christopher Nolan on reddit makes him equal to Montaigne.

>> No.22569953

>>22568856
Every man over 26 besides andrew tate is not a fat cuckold you demoralizing retard

>> No.22569964

>>22569915
>as a creative myself
No actual artist would call himself a "creative". If you were a writer, you would call yourself a writer, or if a painter, that. Because you are nothing, you call yourself a "creative", which vaguely implies an artist. It is a word used by a pseud who thinks posting about Christopher Nolan on reddit makes him equal to Montaigne.

>> No.22569988

>>22564677
>>22564688

>>>/wsg/5290446

>> No.22570057

>>22568669
Did he? I’m showing my plebness here perhaps but what’s the play, the lines or allusion that has Shakespeare ever referencing Beowulf?

Also, considering he famously used sources like the Danish historian Saxo Grammaticus’s Gesta Danorum as a sourcebook for plays like Hamlet, is it possible he could’ve gotten the gist of Beowulf in an indirect manner in such a way? Finally, my Beowulf scholarship is a little rusty so what was it special that would’ve made it unlikely for Shakespeare to be able to have access to some version of Beowulf? Was it only a rare historical text kept by upper-class scholars and not modernized into their version of English until much later or something?

>>22568556
>>22564815
Holy butthurt old man, we’re not laughing at it because it’s a tiktok, I’m sure most here would agree tiktok is cancer and another simultaneous sign & cause of the mental and spiritual decay of the younger generations, the humor comes from the juxtaposition of obscure academic theories edited over an originally stupid, bombastic tiktok, down even to a quote of Ben Jonson’s famous backhanded compliment in his eulogy for W.S. that Shakespeare made such great works even while having “small Latin and less Greek.” The intellectualism coming out of an anti-intellectual character is what makes the humor, not that it’s a tiktok.

>> No.22570060

>>22569953
Why then, aren't they the more attractive option for zoomzooms you fatlennial?

>> No.22570065

>>22564677
why would a person fucking DO this. i DO NOT UNDERSTAND

>> No.22570099

>>22569915
>They were already reading Illiad in ancient Greek.
No they weren't. Shakespeare never read the Iliad outside the few books of Chapman available at the time

>> No.22570102

>>22564957
I like to walk around my room reading out loud as the characters when I read plays. It’s a fun and gives me a better grasp of the plays.

>> No.22570899

>>22570057
There's no Beowulf in Shakespeare soo

>> No.22570910

>>22564677
Tate buckbroke /lit/

>> No.22570939

>>22569164
All of those authors are talentless hacks THOUGH

>> No.22570950

Shakespeare clearly was Edward de Vere

>> No.22571583

>>22569164
85% of good authors didn't even go to college

>> No.22571607

>>22564678
Philosophy needs to be done by grammarians again

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>>22568444

>> No.22571709

>>22571609
The midwit is strong in this one

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>>22569148
Green

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>>22570060
>fatlennial

>> No.22571943

>>22570910
>it was real in my mind

>> No.22572146

>>22570057
based.

>> No.22572220

>>22570057
Shut up kid. I don't care about the content. Enjoying vertical videos is a sign if retardation.

>> No.22572227

>>22572220
>sign if retardation
simply ebic, my friend!

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>>22572220
>a few years earlier
>"*lipsmacks* Do it for the vine, ey, ey *lipsmacks* do it for the vine yuh
Silly zoomers and millennials. Heh, they are just the same but they can't even see it. Sad!

>> No.22572243

>>22572235
Why would I have used vine if I hate vertical videos? I don't use your other zoomer media either.
All short form cropped video content is literally for people whose brains and attentions spans are too small to comprehend a previously normal aspect ratio. And considering your replies and lack of defense of the format I must be correct.
No wonder you all have mental issues.

>> No.22572247

>>22572243
>Your
Yep, millennials can't read heh. You are just like a zoomer boyo. AND YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IT.

>> No.22572252

>>22572247
You have no thoughts for yourself. Go take a selfie video about how you slammed some anon on 4chan with misspelled subtitles and obnoxious music. Or better yet, read a fucking book. Dumb child.

>> No.22572255

>>22572252
>Can't read
>Still doesn't understand he isn't talking to a zoomer
It's getting sad now...

>> No.22572261

>>22572255
I don't care, anybody who defends shit video formats is mentally a zoomer to me. That's the point. To make you a dumb overestimated child. That's what the borders are for. They are blinders.

>> No.22572267

>>22572261
AUTISM ALERT
BEEP BEEP BEEP

>> No.22572269

>>22572261
*overstimulated
yes I can't spell this morning you win blah blah fuck you and fuck me blah blah it's all intellectually dead anyway.

>> No.22572272

>>22572261
Yes yes and to me you are just a zoomer who thinks he is grown up. If we have to generalize, you too are a fat retard whose childhood consisted of Spongebob and weird porn. Consoom Marvel xD and get fucked by your gf's bulls now.

>> No.22572277

>>22572272
I hate all that shit too so you're just projecting now. This is how stupid you guys can be. This is a literature board but for some reason you think I watch marvel slop and I am into cucking. Where does that even come from? Who the fuck mentioned cucking? You are the one who watches fucked up porn and can't help but bring it into everything. Smooth brained "millenial" with a mental age of 3.

>> No.22572279

>>22572277
>Whole argument begins with generalizing
>Hates it when put into a generalized category herself
Yep, kiddo, yur fucked

>> No.22572283

>>22572279
Difference is you're the one defending tiktok and shit media. I didn't defend any of the shit you mentioned - YOU brought it up. Is that clear now or do I need to do a factory dance to music om a vertical video with one word at a time subtitles for you to comprehend anything I am saying to you?

>> No.22572284

>>22570950
Edward De Vere was a shit writer. To think that such a boring guy was shakespeare just because he went to italy and was “well educated” is an insult to our Stratfordian. What was he doing, writing shitty just as a distraction? He wasn’t even above average. No one had a style even similar. Anyone with any eye for literature knows that someone who writes like Bacon cannot suddenly write King Lear and the sonnets. It doesn’t work like that. Marlowe I like the idea of the most, but if he wrote his whole body of work and shakespeare’s, he would literally have to be a God. His work is so good on his own right.

Also, the de vere argument is much less compelling than the one where its a combo of de vere, bacon, and idr who else. Because if you’re going to be anti-stratfordian, you kind of need the bacon cypher. But I have to wonder: was there any historical precedent for collaborative playwriting efforts in the West? There probably were, just curious.

>> No.22572291

>>22572283
>"You defend tiktok and shit media"
Yep, millennials can't read. Must be all that weird marvelslop and the estrogen infused childhoods they had.
Shotgunropemax 360, NOW, thankyou kindly boy.

>> No.22572296

>>22572291
Funny how even after telling you I don't engage in that shit you still double down. This is because you literally cannot think for yourself. You cannot adapt when it doesn't go your way. Your whole generation is going to an hero en masse when they realise the world isn't like the tiktoks

>> No.22572301

>>22572296
>Still thinks I defended tiktok by calling him just as stupid as a zoomer
>Still thinks I am a zoomer
Huh? Doubling down? Boy are you fucking me with or something lmao.
You sure are odd boy.

>> No.22572304

>>22564682
house arrest.

>> No.22572305

>>22572301
Like I said retard, you are mentally a zoomer. In fact if you're any older than 21 and you write like you do then forget generations, that's just fucking embarrassing.

>> No.22572306

>>22572301
that poster clearly has autism

>> No.22572308

>>22572306
Maybe I have autism, maybe I am a complete retard and yet I am still smarter than zoomers like you which says a fucking LOT.

>> No.22572309

>>22572305
ESL Alert!
BEEP BEEP BEEP

>> No.22572312

>>22572309
You have nothing to say you fucking NPC. Everything you have said is boiler plate 4chan replies. You have nothing. There is nothing in your head. I would tell you to kill yourself but you're not even worth the time

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>>22572305
It's okay buddy, picrel still think ur epic awesomesauce forthewin bacon.

>>22572306
It's fine, I got my laughs. Can't go in circles however, which this is turning into. Back to mundanity.

>> No.22572314

>>22572312
Where you from, lad? Serbia?

>> No.22572316

>>22572313
Lol. You have nothing. Funny how capeshit is all you have. Makes me realise how uncultured you really are. Twat.
>>22572314
Shut up you spastic cunt

>> No.22572317

>>22572313
kek

>> No.22572318

>>22572316
>uses anglicisms while being ESL
Good morning sir! Have you done the needful? Sir!

>> No.22572322

>>22572318
I don't know where you got ESL from, but I guess it is just another boiler plate npc reply when you have nothing to say. My English is better than yours, miss mentally-a-zoomer.

>> No.22572327

>>22572322
Sir! PLease respect Shakespeare SIR

>> No.22572328

>>22572327
Okay, you're just another zoomer faggot with no brain.

>> No.22572331

>>22572328
auntie, you must do the needful and respect shakespeare.

>> No.22572333

>>22572331
Cunt you probably eat shit from the toilet and say mmmmm thank you chinese communist party for mentally damaging my entire generation yum yum delicious shit in my mouth ears and eyes dumb fucking cunt I hope you eventually leave your house and get mugged by a rag tag band of vigilante midgets whose only job is to track down the most retarded people on earth and kill them then use their body parts in the fireplace at their dwarven hut to heat the house.

>> No.22572336

>>22572333
>getting THIS MAD
AHAHAHAHHAHA
Sir - kindly adjust, sir! Do the needful, sir.

>> No.22572339

>>22572313
kek, a whole convo of
>im going to generalize you now
>i dun understand, im not like that
shakespearean

>> No.22572340

>>22572336
I'm just way more creative than you. It's okay to feel insecure at my galactic brain zoomer-kun.
>>22572339
It gets worse considering you are still here.

>> No.22572342

>>22572340
auntie you must do the mugging of shakespeare and respect the needful

>> No.22572343

>>22572342
TRY and be creative. Just try. The next faggoty reply you give just try and prove to yourself that you can say more than some /pol/ level bot posting reply.

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>>22572340
>i did have breakfast your honor

>> No.22572346

>>22572339
>>22572331
>>22572327
Stop with this retarded discussion and make fun of anti-stratfordians

>> No.22572348

>>22572343
Rowdy sheeter, (You) must take the lessons in English more seriously!

>> No.22572354 [SPOILER] 

>>22572348
This is seriously the best you could do? How low are the standards for yourself? They're so far down they're six feet below next to your nan and my passion for life.

>> No.22572359

>>22572354
Kindly do the needful, rowdy sheeter. Revert and respect the shakespeare

>> No.22572378

>>22572359
Weak will. Weak brain. Pathetic existence. Go back to pol. /pol/ zoomers is the worst combination on earth. Kill yourself. Please. I do not mean it unironically stop suppressing invasive suicidal thoughts and just go through with it. Your family will not miss you.

>> No.22572382

>>22572378
Auntie, you must revert today morning and read shakespeare and respect

>> No.22572407

I play pokemon go everyday!

>> No.22572488

>>22572407
(anti-stratfordian)

>> No.22572942

>>22568463
you missed an opportunity to get back at him for being pedantic by retorting that it's ackshually Eald Anglisc

>> No.22572993

>>22572220
I am the poster you are responding to and have always been taught to respect my elders, so I will defer to you in respect and retract my post. Thank you for policing the quality of this board and really sticking it to the Zoomers.

>> No.22572995

>>22572993
GOOD KID

>> No.22573575

>>22569964
I'm a creative in the sense that I possess an imagination out of this world. I'm attuned to the intricacies of art as a real Renaissance man would. To call myself a writer/painter wouldn't suffice it.
You seem to suffer from an inferiority complex if you feel triggered by a simple word and need to demonstrate how much superior you are for mentioning Montaigne and implying "old = good, new = bad"

>>22570099
I meant that grammar schools at the time would teach ancient Greek, not that Shakespeare's school did.

>> No.22573589

>>22569164
>pervert
You're mindbroken

>> No.22573957

>>22569229
>he's a bugatti-let

>> No.22574632

>>22564678
17th century grammar school was a far cry from the babysitting facilities of today. Shakespeare would have been expected to learn multiple languages (he did), write poetry using those languages (he did), and probably went through the progymnasmata, a collection of exercises based on imitation of great works. It’s very likely Romeo and Juliet was the result of a progymnasmatic exercise, as it’s clearly inspired by Ovid’s Pyramus and Thisbe.

In short: 17th century schoolboys could read better, write better, calculate better, and speak better than the 21st century’s most educated adults and that will never not be funny.

>> No.22574741

>>22574632
It's a bit hyperbolic but the trend is true. Graduating a reputed 17th century grammar school is the equivalent of a humanities masters level today. It's disingenuous to call it "uneducated".

>> No.22574754

>>22574632
>>22574741
Why don't schools teach cool stuff anymore? A friend of mine got yelled at in teacher's college for suggesting that they should give students in elementary school high school work sometimes to see if they can do it
Surely kids did not get so much dumber than kids in the literal medieval and early modern times

>> No.22574756

>>22574741
Modern humanities masters degrees are worthless. The average humanities graduate is flat-out toxic. Their studies were centered on and around parasitic ideas and methods of prevarication that render composition unreadable.

There is no modern humanities master that is equivalent to one of those 17th century schoolboys in my country.

>> No.22574762

>>22574754
My grandparents are responsible for my education
All they showed us in elementary school was "age appropriate" picture books about famous gay black people and my grandparents gave me actual classic books to read

>> No.22574768

>>22574754
Because teaching works by white people is racist.

Because having honors classes is classist.

Because Tommy getting a B where Suzy got an A is not fair.

Because my child needs special accommodations for being a poorly-socialized animal.

The list goes on. What is substituted for the canon is usually inferior, but the behaviors in school are horrific. Any child who acted half as bad in Shakespeare’s day would have been beaten near to death or tossed out of the village.

>> No.22574778

>>22574768
I volunteered at a school for years; the behaviour wasn't that bad even among the autistic kids; they were just bored out of their skulls.
One told me he hates reading because all books are about how much black people are oppressed and he doesn't feel oppressed (he was a black kid)
Another said the same thing but was White, though he said it in a hushed voice because he was scared of being expelled for racism
Woke retards were feeding these kids only shit race-baiting books and they immediately became happy when I gave them some old-fashioned YA, the Hobbit and Treasure Island

>> No.22574789

>>22574778
You’re lucky. An 11-year old shot two football players at the school I used to work at just this week.

Boredom does not explain the shit I’ve seen. These kids are malicious and inventive with their cruelty. Society is not prepared for them.

>> No.22574790

>>22574778
lmao shut the fuck up you larping faggot. kids dont tell you anything with you sitting deep in your moms basement

>> No.22574793

>>22573575
>I'm a creative in the sense that I possess an imagination out of this world.
I must apologize. I thought you meant you were creative in the sense that you create! Thanks for teaching me that you can be creative without creating creations like a creator!
I only mentioned Montaigne because he's the preeminent essayist, not to make myself look more intelligent. Not everyone's a pseud like you.

>> No.22574800

>>22574756
My neighbors are a Frenchman and his Italian wife with humanities degrees at that level. At least they can simply just open and read Latin and Greek but they are nearing retirement age. Even in those countries humanities zoomers are probably a joke.

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>>22574789
RIP; I think it might be the worst socialized generation in history but schools treating them like babies also drives them insane
They are simultaneously overpoliced and underdisciplined; teachers yell at the smart kids for whispering to each other in the halls and don't do anything about the kid who beats other children and wipes his boogies on the desk
It should be noted that the well-behaved school I worked at was suburban middle class so it might also be inner city schools
>>22574790
t. leftoid teacher who forced my poor 13 year old and his classmates to read "Anti-Racist Baby" and pic-related
They were fucking thirteen and they were psychologically tortured by being made to look at kiddy shit
If you want them to eat your race-baiting activity up give them Anne Frank's diary

>> No.22574829

>>22574789
>Boredom does not explain the shit I’ve seen.
I don't know. Boredom explains (not excuse) a solid 80% of sins I have ever committed. Many murderers have said they acted out of boredom and I can largely sympathize.
Deliberately putting (gifted) kids through years and years of state enforced boredom is borderline torture. I'm more baffled by the tiny number of them that snap.

>> No.22574836

>>22574829
I read Moby Dick at 10 and they made me sit through a roastie explaining 6 plus 4 to the retarded kid for four hours straight
I also remember hours and hours of cutting and pasting construction paper; I never went insane or violent, I left it to the son of a druggie, but I wonder if it caused some of my depression issues in hs

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>>22564811
To his basement

>> No.22575131

>>22569164
>Life experience is the heart of good writing.
>Poe was broke and a pervert. Tolkien fought in WW1, Orwell in Spain.
And none of them were any good. Read actual writers, not anglo chumps.

>> No.22575144

>>22569915
>The grammar school's curriculum of his time was comparable to a modern university's.
First, this isn't a good thing. Second, it isn't true. You're retarded.

>> No.22575189

>>22575131
cervantes and baudelaire didn't even go to university either
maybe read ANY book instead of shitposting, pseud pleb
gg ez

>> No.22575192

>>22575144
>modern university
gender studies seminars and 500 person classes
that will be 20k pls

>> No.22575314

>>22570065
Do what, exactly?

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>>22564677
How to destroy anti-stratfordists: ask them for evidence

>> No.22575934

>>22564677
Don’t worry buddy, Shakespeare was definitely just a based pleb englishman… and Santa is real too

>> No.22575935

>>22575934
Don't call me buddy, guy