/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22561404]

Comfy chart thread. I'll share my folder over the course of the next day or so. Post 'em if ya got 'em.

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[Anonymous No.22561663]

>>22561408
is there something similar to this one, but with eastern mysticism/sufism ? would highly appreciate it

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[Anonymous No.22561848]

>>22561404

[Anonymous No.22561997]

>>22561848
>America
>Book of Mormon
Kek, gets me everytime. Should be Moby Dick, however.

[Anonymous No.22562013]

>>22561848
what would the national epic for the US actually be though?

- Moby Dick
- The Battlefield Where the Moon Says I Love You
- Leaves of Grass
- Tom Sawyer / Huckleberry Finn
- or maybe Faulkner? McCarthy?

[Anonymous No.22562020]

>>22562013
unironically infinite jest

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>>22561404

[Anonymous No.22562253]

Comfy meetup this Saturday, email picrel if interested

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>>22561404
Can anyone provide a Protestant chart?

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[Anonymous No.22562801]

>>22562269
Seconding this. I'm not protestant but It is always primarily Orthodox and Catholic material on Christian charts. Would be nice to see one for protestants.

[Anonymous No.22562813]

>>22562013
Is Tom Sawyer really "epic" though?

[Anonymous No.22563070]

Any anons have a chart on architecture?

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[Anonymous No.22563339]

what do I listen to next?

[Anonymous No.22563385]

>>22563339
fuck I meant read next

[Anonymous No.22563700]

>>22563385
Count of Monte Cristo

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[Anonymous No.22565026]

Is there a chart on minor German classics?

[Anonymous No.22565040]

>>22564523
Which book should I get if I have no real interest in getting into esotericism but am interested in the history of it? Basically what's the best history book out of that chart?

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> Italy
> The Aeneid

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>>22562269
LOL. Very funny, anon.

>>22561421
Deep cuts on this chart. Very impressive.

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>>22561415
Most of these books are over 1,000 pages…

[Anonymous No.22565260]

>>22565256
Yeah honestly if you're willing to devote that much effort to learning about WW1 you might as well just follow an academic syllabus on it.

[Anonymous No.22565298]

>>22565260
This is a huge gripe I have with modern biography and history. Go read ancient and medieval classics. Plutarch’s Lives? A few hundred pages. The Twelve Caesars? A few hundred pages. All twelve Caesars, a few hundred pages. The Life of Charlemagne. A few hundred pages, maybe a hundred or less. A single biography of Napoleon? 1200 pages. Hitler? 1100 pages? It’s impossible to read biographies of all these people…

[Anonymous No.22565311]

>>22565298
For a casual reader there's a balance between entertainment and completeness, of course some of those classics are a lot shorter but at the same time they contain very little of value when it comes to actually learning history, on the other hand if you're willing to read several 1000+ page books that, while usually decently written from an academic perspective, are nevertheless geared towards casual readers you might as well go all in on the academic route at that point.

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>>22565040
Those are generally books on the history of it rather than anything 'practical'.

[Anonymous No.22565396]

>>22562020
DFW is great if your comfort zone is getting lost in words. In the same vein I want to mention Proust's in search of list time and Mann's the magic mountain.

[Anonymous No.22565512]

I'm Orthodox Christian but I am deeply interested in what Jews believe so I started off with this chart on Derech Hashem. There's a pretty good podcast about it called Torah Thinking with an old-school Rabbi who is pretty cool. I appreciate how those guys argue for their ideas and want to see more of that in Christianity.

[Anonymous No.22565570]

>>22561404
Saying Beowulf is from England is equivalent to saying Gilgamesh is from Iraq
>tain
>spain and france
Whoever made this chart is a dog
And imagine including Nibelungenlied (however it’s spelled) and not including Lusiadas. Barbarian lack of culture

[Anonymous No.22565608]

>>22565311
I strongly disagree. There’s no quality age difference between the two. In fact, the differences are mainly quantitative. The new books simply collect more facts, largely irrelevant ones, while the old books focus on the crux of what happened. I get it. As westerners, we want to know the whole life of a person down to their development of psychology from birth to death because we like how those details add up, but next time you read one of these books try to notice how much meandering around irrelevant details and speculation there is. They’re filled with them. The truth is that these authors try to make the books longer than they should be because they get author cred for that. Moreover, there are multiple types of serious readers. A serious reader of Lenin, sure, might want a 40,000 page detail of his entire life but a serious reader of biography wouldn’t want such a thing because he also wants to compare and contrast with Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Peter the Great, Napoleon, Trotsky, etc. Is he to read 40,000 pages for all of them? Of course not. It’s just too much. These are commercial books being published as if they were scholarly books. If you’re going to write a 1,000 page+ biography it should be an academic work, and it shouldn’t dominate the market. Ideally, virtually all commercial biographies ever written should be under a few hundred pages. Any more than that and you actually do a disservice to the person who you’re studying. Cellini’s autobiography is the perfect length. Most copies are not even 300 pages.

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>>22562275
Wtf is green pill this has nothing to do with luddism or eco-fascism. Asking because I recently read the Illuminatus! Trilogy and was pleasantly surprised by how entertaining and fun it was.

[Anonymous No.22565991]

>>22562013
The Columbiad is the best fit, but the fact is that the US doesn't have a national epic

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>>22561404
God Western European literature is so fucking dogshit

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>>22562801
>>22562269
I'm gonna make one today, or at least get started.

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>>22565608
I somewhat agree when it comes to biographies in particular, me personally I have no interested in reading 1000+ pages dedicated to nobody's life, but when it comes to understanding historical events, conflicts and whole periods most of the time the added detail is truly necessary. Plus, length issues aside, the biggest issue with a lot of classics is that they're simply missing centuries' worth of research and archeological findings.

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>>22561404
Where is Song of the Cid and Song of Roland?

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>>22565298
There are plenty of "Introduction to X" books that will take you through a bunch of historical figures. If you search "best napoleon biography" you will be directed to the most comprehensive one though. An abundance of majesterial biographies isn't a bad thing, just pick one of the minor ones.

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>>22563339
What is the color code

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>>22561427

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>>22569516
Oops my mistake I didn't see it uploaded by
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>>22569487
Green - good
Yellow - okay
Red - dislike

[Anonymous No.22570190]

>>22565040
You'll like pic.
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>>22565669
I don't know who decided esotericism = magick
Lots of these book deserve different categories.
>>22565914
Greenpill is the mystic pill since forever in 4chan.

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>>22570190
*esotericism = magick = gnosticism = hermeticism

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>>22562013
Surely it's Moby Dick. It's the first and the most prominent example of bringing us dialect to the front. It is slightly imitative of English prose, but not to a degree that it is it's copy.

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>>22563339
>listen
Youre funny. Go for othello or spinozas ethics

[Anonymous No.22570284]

>>22565040
Kybalion is the right answer

[Anonymous No.22570331]

>>22565040
"The secret teachings of all ages" by Manly p Hall is decent if you are looking for a kind of overview of occult tradition. Many people say he made stuff up but so far what I have read since reading it has lined up, just with less of the masonic vocabulary. If you want something with a little less contested legitimacy I really like this book called "an illustrated encyclopedia of mysticism and the mystery religions" by John Ferguson. Its what it claims to be, and has helped me in weeding out what I am interested in and what I am not interested in the occult.

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>>22570331
I second manly p hall

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>>22561415
I think a book on the Balkan Wars and the decline of the Ottomans would also be required reading, although I know no good books on either subject. Any of you anons know of any?

[Anonymous No.22570390]

What do people mean by comfy when they use that word on these boards?

[Anonymous No.22570393]

>>22561404
Where's the Epic Poems of America chart? Will I need to make it myself?

[Anonymous No.22570411]

>>22570390
It's just the informal form of comfortable. Nothing else to it.

[Anonymous No.22570419]

>>22561848
It really is very dumb to lump together all of these texts

[Anonymous No.22570428]

>>22563339
this chart could have been made by a naive high schooler and I really like it for it, it feels me with hope

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>>22570393
Do it. Spoon feed me papa anon.

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>>22570438
I'm making it.

[Anonymous No.22570589]

My favorite.

[Anonymous No.22571017]

>>22570390
It generally just means "take your shitposting somewhere else, we're trying to have a decent thread here". Weirdly enough, politely asking people to leave a thread alone and go satisfy their shitposting needs somewhere else usually seems to work.

[Anonymous No.22571052]

It could've come out a lot better, but this is my first time trying to make a chart.

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>>22561404
My first chart. I have read pretty much everything by this based lil nigga

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>>22565652
/thread

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>>22571052
Very based

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