/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22550617]

Some of you guys sound really smart when you talk about philosophy and art. How can I get to that level? What should I read specifically? (99% of posters are clearly retarded though)

[Anonymous No.22550623]

>>22550617
Read about philosophy and art if that is what interests you.

[Anonymous No.22550625]

>>22550617
all of baudrillard, all of plato, some of nieztche, all of kant

[Anonymous No.22550626]

>>22550617
>Some of you guys sound really smart
post examples. let's see what you consider smart.

[Anonymous No.22550631]

>>22550617
De sade
You either get it or you don't

[Anonymous No.22550641]

>>22550617
It’s easy to sound smart when you’re quoting someone else’s work. Regurgitation is a skill for parrots.
Try absorbing and interpreting a philosophers words and apply it to your own values.

[Anonymous No.22550671]

>>22550641
>Regurgitation is a skill for parrots.
nothing wrong with regurgitating if you understand the words

[Anonymous No.22550793]

>>22550617
Except I don't masturbate, so the reason of the guy in pic related doesn't apply to me.

[Anonymous No.22550812]

No one under 40 uses their right hand

[Anonymous No.22550830]

take a humanities undergrad. You too will come out babbling about schools of thought unrelated to everyday life

[Anonymous No.22550831]

Philosophy phd student here (defending my dissertation next semester) and the level of philosophical discourse here is abysmal. Take intro to philosophy, skim the readings, and you'll be leagues above half the jokers on this board. Hell, skim the plato.stanford,edu entry for whatever you're interested in and you'll look like a professor compared to most here.

[Anonymous No.22550834]

>>22550831
idk some anons here are really high iq

[Anonymous No.22550843]

>>22550834
There's the occasional German Idealism discussion, which I admittedly have no knowledge in (other than reading the first Critique a few years ago for a seminar on it), that seem high level. So, there are some smart folks here. But it's very rare.

[Anonymous No.22550858]

>>22550617
>>22550834
lol
90% of the users here only repeat what they read in others posts, plot summaries or wikipedia pages

[Anonymous No.22550867]

>>22550858
idk some of it sounds pretty original

[Anonymous No.22550875]

>>22550831
>philosophy phd

[Anonymous No.22550879]

>>22550617
I dont read an extreme amount but I am able to hold my own in philosophy and art discussions because of immense osmosis. The real secret is to accept that you don't know everything and never will. Other than that it's important to form your own opinions and theories on things rasther than to just parrot what someone else says and then put your ideas/theories into a crucible. Another thing is not to simply disregard someones entire worldview because of one thing they do which you may not agree with. In your case I would say also not to just be impressed by someone "sounding" intelligent because a lot of people on here like to parrot someones opinion/theory but when pressed on it just seem tone deaf so dont have the showl be pulled over your eyes by snake charmers

[Anonymous No.22550886]

>>22550617
read, nigga, read (what interests you)
you can't be good or knowledgeable about everything

[Anonymous No.22550893]

What is the point of living if you're not devoting yourself to learning history, art, and philosophy so you can talk about them with other autistic men? I am not even joking, what else do people do? Do they just rewatch the same movies or something?

[Anonymous No.22550901]

>>22550867
It probably does when you're new, yeah. But anyways just read what interests you and you'll get there. That's all. /lit/ has a sticky, it's the very first thread on the board which has some recommendations.

[Anonymous No.22550906]

>>22550812

[Anonymous No.22550910]

>>22550901
what about this kant guy i keep seeing? is he good?

[Anonymous No.22550913]

>>22550906
mouse hand

[Anonymous No.22550921]

>>22550910
start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.22550932]

>>22550913
Are you saying their right hand's on their mouse or they capture mice and use their paws to pleasure themselves? Because I just use my right hand for the mouse and use it to fap when I'm not using the mouse.

[Anonymous No.22550941]

>>22550893
Absolutely based post.
For me, add mathematics to the mix as well. I don't understand how people can go through their lives and not learn as much about mathematics as humanly possible. It's a waste of life

[Anonymous No.22550950]

>>22550941
For me it's computers but based and true

[Anonymous No.22550956]

>>22550950
for me it's picrel

[Anonymous No.22550957]

>>22550893
>>22550941
>>22550950
Would it be possible to get some kind of collective going where we all try to excel at our specific interests and talents and somehow the others can benefit? Could we start a 4chan university where all the teachers are just that one really schizo guy who spends 18 hours a day reading about chemistry?

[Anonymous No.22550963]

>>22550957
>Could we start a 4chan university where all the teachers are just that one really schizo guy who spends 18 hours a day reading about chemistry?
ironically that's how universities started

[Anonymous No.22550969]

>>22550963
True
https://la.utexas.edu/users/hcleaver/330T/350kPEEJamesOctopusTable.pdf

[Anonymous No.22550987]

>>22550617
Sounds like you might like Greek poetics and criticism, so maybe start with the Iliad, then some Sappho, Aeschylus’ Oresteia, Sophocles’ Philoctetes and Antigone, Euripides’ Helen and Phoenician Women, Plato’s Symposium and last book of Republic, Aristophanes’ Clouds and Frogs, Aristotle’s Poetics, Nietzsche’s Birth of Tragedy (and the scathing foreword), whatever Hegel says about the Antigone in the Phenomenology, and finally The Greeks and the Irrational by Dodds

[Anonymous No.22551152]

>>22550875
Might be a larp but that anon has this board's card and number.

[Anonymous No.22551159]

>>22551152
One time I read a philosophical book of a popular philosopher, it took me several weeks as I was taking my time to really understand it. Came into a thread and realized the majority are just shitposting and don’t know what they’re talking about.

[Anonymous No.22551178]

>>22551159
Philosophy threads are hit and miss. If you are reading it and enjoying it that is what matters.

[Anonymous No.22552316]

/// I could hear my roommate plodding up the steps to our apartment /// He tried to fob off an inferior brand on us /// His main shtick is delivering one-liner jokes, of which he claims to have 200 of /// I want nothing to do with that bunch of nitwits /// The Cyclopes, too, were gigantic, towering up like mighty mountain crags and devastating in their power /// The burglar used a jimmy to open the window /// There's a motley assortment of old furniture in the house we're renting now /// How is this attractive aphorism to be converted into constructive policies? /// It's like one of those tinkly bells that you get with Buddhism or one of those religions, a little dry bell /// Smaller quilts for single beds are exempt from tax /// He has long felt that Ray was set up, that he was a patsy /// I showed up giddy with anticipation, brimming with questions /// To use the vernacular of the period, Peter was square /// As a rule, monocles were a male accessory: If in need of an aid to vision, a woman would use spectacles or a lorgnette, a pair of glasses on a handle /// Both men and women have cowlicks, which can be covered by longer hair so the whorl is not visible /// At parties he always makes a beeline for the prettiest woman in the room /// I've been racking my brains all day but I can't remember her name /// He was agonizing over the moral issues involved /// The team returned disconsolate from three losses /// This had many drawbacks including the added pressure on peewee-aged players (12-year-olds) ////

[Anonymous No.22552558]

>>22550831
If you're comparing yourself to "half the jokers on this board" you're in some dire straits. Compare yourself instead to the most eloquent and intelligent posters here. Otherwise it's like doing a BA degree and feeling comfortable that you're more knowledgeable than 98% of your classmates (none of whom read, ever).

[Anonymous No.22552612]

>>22550987
I think he'll like plutarch too.

[Anonymous No.22552662]

Philosophy is trivial. Literally chatgpt tier. I recommend starting with STEM and then looking down on philosophers.

[Anonymous No.22552671]

>>22550617
No, really. Why won't God send me a wife?
I'm not a bad guy, I'm just very shy to approach women.

[Anonymous No.22552793]

>>22552671
Serious answer? Because God's busy upholding the cosmic order and your marital status (presumably) doesn't fall into the job description.
OP pic is bullshit naturally.

[Anonymous No.22552829]

>>22550617
they read so much that when they regurgitate information it draws from such a large base with so many relevant points to connect that it comes out smart. Being truly intelligent relies on your capacity to retain and connect said ideas. Also to formulate your own new ideas based on what you know or what you don't. Someone smart can do more with less. You don't need to binge books, it will just turn you into a pseud. Read what interests you and take advantage of your own natural intelligence. That said if you're a retard it may well be best to take the pseud route. Plenty of people get by fine regurgitating information

[Anonymous No.22553873]

>>22550617
Write well and be well-read.

[Anonymous No.22555206]

>>22550617
Vocabulary + bullshit

[Anonymous No.22555232]

>>22550617
The red section of the Great Books of the Western World Series. It is color coded. For art, read Proust.

[Anonymous No.22555237]

Don't bother with philosophy

[Anonymous No.22557500]

>>22550641
I very much agree with this. It's one of the reasons why I hate atheists and most debaters.