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>nothing ever changes
He had a fixed mindset instead of a growth mindset.

>> No.22522726

>>22522698
>fixed mindset
that's why Anaxagoras was a better philosopher.

>> No.22522748

>>22522726
two of them walk in?

>> No.22522801

>>22522726
>>22522698
Democritus eternally mogs.

>> No.22523279

>>22522698
Perfect mindset, more like. You're welcome.

>>22522726
>>22522801
/lit/ as delusional as ever.

>> No.22523383

>>22523279
Perfect as in complete, finished, etc. But not perfect as in good. Parmenides had a fixed mindset about what he thought was possible, and that's why he never gets better.

>> No.22523392

>eternalist substance metaphysics
Giant meme killed stone dead thousands of years ago

>> No.22523396

>>22523392
>killed stone dead thousands of years ago
this meme is still alive, see:
>nothing ever happens

>> No.22523408

>>22522698
this is lit's peak btw

>> No.22524317

>>22523408
Fitting. Eleatics are peak philosophy.

>> No.22524333

>>22522726
Anaxagoras was barely a philosopher. Read the Phaedo. "Nous" is just unproven nonsense. Socrates at the least attempted to make the world of forms a coherent system even if you disagree with it. Anaxagoras did not have qualms with dogmatically stating things he couldnt piece together.

>> No.22524486

>>22522801
Democritus was a charlatan

>> No.22524719

>>22524333
> Socrates at the least attempted to make the world of forms a coherent system even if you disagree with it.
It was Plato you jackass, Socrates wasn't even a natural philosopher.

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22524919

>>22522698
>change is an illusion. creation is already finished.
>your "change" is what you were all along. simply manifest it.

>> No.22525109

>>22524719
It was Socrates, which was why Plato names everyone in the Phaedo. Socratics like Aeschines and Aristippus can't dismiss the forms as non-Socratic, and the autobiographical portion confirms Aristophanes' depiction.

>> No.22525179

>>22524333
>coherency as an ideal
how do I achieve this level of mid-wittery?

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22525207

>>22522698
BTFO'd by Heraclitus
>The meaning of the river flowing is not that all things are changing so that we cannot encounter them twice, but that things stay the same only by changing.

>> No.22525292

>>22522698
you are a two-headed mortal who has not escaped from the path of seeming

>> No.22525301

>>22525109
Bro it was Plato's Socrates, not Socrates. This is why people should read introductions

>> No.22525943

>>22525301
No, it's Socrates, and Plato's making the case that the Forms aren't his invention, hence why he writes a dialogue where he's not present, the other Socratics are, and Socrates talks about the Forms in front of them.

>> No.22526192

Neoplatonists made a religion out of this text

>> No.22526215

>>22522698
Kys zoomie

>> No.22526814

>>22526215
not possible, since it would require changing from alive to unalive