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Greetings /lit/
Unreal Press, here to officially announce the release of Tales of the Unreal Issue No. 2, long awaited follow-up to our most popular release yet, it is available on amazon for those who want the physical copy but the pdf is available for free on our soobstack page along with the first issue https://unrealpress.substack.com/

We'd now like to make a call for the next edition, this time we are looking for stories which pay homage to the pulp and golden age of science-fiction writing, looking for stories between 2.5 - 5k in wordcount (give or take), please either send to unrealpressandpodcast@proton.me or join the /wg/ discord server (https://discord.gg/CYWnVHGx)) and @ one of the editors

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>>22496372
Bump

>> No.22496531

And now we'll be having this same shitty thread for days to come

>> No.22496607

>>22496531
I didn't make it.

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22496616

You're still doing the book thing?
Adorable.

>> No.22496890

>>22496616
Card? I thought you were dead?

>> No.22496920

>>22496890
Not so!
I'm thriving at youtube dot com forwardslash at cardposting

>> No.22496925

a free doxx in every box!

>> No.22496943

>>22496920
epic cringe

>> No.22497153

>>22496531
I'll bet it kills you that there's actual organic interest in this subject.

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>>22496890
No. Rumplestiltskin.

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>>22497153
>organic interest

>> No.22497484

>>22497474
>4 posters
eat it crab

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>>22496372
does this discord server actually engage in writing, or is it just a social club?
I'd like a place to get more serious criticism and work with others writers but if you're all just shitposting and talking about discord drama I'll pass.

>> No.22497633

>>22497608
As far as writing discord servers go, it's fairly productive.

>> No.22497921

>>22497029
Yes, the current &amp and Unreal threads all too often devolve into shitflinging, but what’s the alternative? How else are the people behind these projects supposed to draw attention to their releases and garner new submissions? It seems like a problem with no clear solution.

>> No.22498216

>>22497921
>make bed
>sleep in it

>> No.22498297

>>22497633
Yeah, it’s pretty helpful.

>> No.22498302

>>22497921
>devolve into shitflinging
That’s what this board is for. If you cant see the silver lining for the clouds created by one seething anon, then you need to take a minute to look at the facts: this issue has more submissions from more people, will probably sell more and get more reviews, and the fixation of one butthurt loser doesn’t change that. This faggot is so desperate to slander you guys he was editing screenshots of the pdf and Amazon page last thread. Take his determination to destroy you as a sign that you’re actually succeeding, as far as 4chan collab projects go.

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>>22498302
That was good clean fun man
Plus I never touched these threads before then whether you want to believe that or not
Out of all the stuff going on now since the spring I figured what I did was pretty obviously a joke

I mean come on look at this thing again

>> No.22498376

>>22498342
Fuck off troll

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>>22498342
>actually uses MS Edge
faggotry confirmed

>> No.22498538 [DELETED] 

>>22496372
Good Sirs of Unreal Press,
I would like to report that your latest anthology has helped me fornicate.
I took the paperback edition to my local groovy hipster cafe where art hoes whose nature is both promiscuous and pretentious are know to congregate.
I took my beverage and my seat and proceeded to read your anthology with the cover visible. I was soon approached by an art hoe who enquired what i was reading, I explained the basic premise as best i could to which she replied "i love retro pulp fiction vibes, so Goosbumps! So eighties!" i hastily agreed and we continued to chat.
Eventually we left the cafe together and engaged in fornication minus protection at her apartment. It was a jolly fun experience for all involved and i thank you good sirs for your small part in it.
Yours Sincerely,
An Art Hoe Pussy Devotee.

>> No.22498552

>>22498538
Fuck is this real?
Which stories get the most art girl puss?

>> No.22498557

>>22498552
Based on my experience i think it's the cover, art hoes seem to like the pulp vibes.

>> No.22498672

>>22498538
KYS

>> No.22498723

>>22498672
Jealous of someone else getting art hoe pussy

>> No.22499094

>>22498672
You can't build yourself up by tearing others down.

>> No.22499131

>>22499094
The continued failure of Unreal Press is testament to that.

>> No.22499143

>>22499131
What failure? They just released a 2nd anthology; I have a paperback copy of it. Certainly more than can be said for /ffa/ or (snicker) Keyword.

>> No.22499301

>>22498723
Im gay so no

>> No.22499520

>>22499301
At least you admit it.

>> No.22499585

are we not going to talk about how this group is literally transphobic?

>> No.22499592

>>22499585
What is your evidence of that?

>> No.22499595

>>22499585
Aren't multiple members of Unreal trans? I think L.A was.

>> No.22499621

>>22499595
they're literally fucking bigots.

>> No.22499629

>>22499621
Proof?

>> No.22499691

>>22499585
All decent people hate trannies, troons are literal abominations and offences against God

>> No.22499728

>>22499691
Yeah this is my proof. You're a fucking bigot.

>> No.22499779

>>22499728
You have no evidence that anon is affiliated with Unreal. What was your evidence before that response? Or are you just pulling lies out of your ass?

>> No.22499790

>>22499779
lol that's not a counterargument

>> No.22499815

>>22499790
So your response is simple-minded deflection, huh? I accept your concession.

>> No.22499856

>>22499585
that's a really, really good thing.

>> No.22500376

>>22499585
That’s based.

>> No.22500383

>>22499585
They’re only transphobic against trannies who pass better than they do.

>> No.22500896

My paperback copy has arrived! It has "title" for the title of the last story, i.e. my copy is from before they fixed it! If this anthology ever becomes famous, I have a rare misprint that I can sell for gazillions & be set for life! None of the other /lit/ anthologies can claim anything close to that...especially Keyword.

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>>22499143
>Certainly more than can be said for /ffa/

/ffa/ managed to publish three anthologies before going dark

>> No.22501227

>>22501108
But did any of them have any typos in early versions that'll jack up the collectible price? And what happened to /ffa/ anyway? The last I heard of it was >>/lit/thread/S20739337#p20740099 then ffa-anon seemed to vanish.

>> No.22501240

>>22501108
Don't mind them. They know their wrong. Just their continued attempts to build themselves up by tearing others down.

>> No.22501446

>>22501240
Remember, this conversation started with smugness about "the continued failure of Unreal Press", and you continue it with bleating about "tearing others down".

>> No.22501636

>>22497921
It's a writing circle. Do people really think the Lost Generation in Paris or the hashish club or the Byron/Shelley hangout didn't devolve into shit flinging and drama?

>> No.22501640

>>22501636
>Byron/Shelley hangout didn't devolve into shit flinging and drama
I suppose no one in Unreal losing their virginity on their mother's grave is a plus...

>> No.22501647

>>22498538
...
BASED

>> No.22501719

>>22500896
>Keyword Magazine
A trigger warning would have been nice, anon.

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>>22501719
If you want trigger warnings, go to Facebook, or one of those other "curated" social media sites.

>> No.22502160

>>22501227
Typos? Yes.
A 2nd edition? Lol

Best summary I’ve seen of what happened to /ffa/ is here:
>>/lit/thread/S20773444#p20778013

>> No.22502306

>>22496372
>discord server
yeah I'm not taking part in this shit

>> No.22502409

>>22502306
Nah Discord is based

>> No.22502688
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>>22496372
muh dik
https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-books-Amazon/zgbs/books/5434/ref=zg_bs_pg_2_books?_encoding=UTF8&pg=2

>> No.22502700

>>22502160
What typos?

>> No.22502703

>>22502688
We're all going to make it bros

>> No.22502715

>>22502703
ya gotta believe it to achieve it

>> No.22502790

Do you guys accept occult detective stories?

>> No.22503046

>>22502790
Do you accept dick in your orifices?

>> No.22503055

>>22503046
The rethorical defense

>> No.22503178

>>22502790
Hell yeah that sounds awesome! Tales 3 is a science fiction pulp homage, but we're happy to consider it for a future "Weird Tales" release. Email it anytime or swing through the Discord.

>> No.22503233

>>22496372
Thoughts on not using discord but instead using selfhosted matrix?

>> No.22503253

>>22502688
is there a reason why &amp isn't on amazon?

>> No.22503332

>>22503253
Because they don’t offer magazine printing options for self publishers

>> No.22503634

>>22503055
*rhetorical
Learn2Spell

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Favorite story? Biggest miss?

>> No.22503830

>>22503710
This thread has been up for two days and you're the first person to attempt to discuss the stories. If you're a member of Unreal desperately trying to drum up conversation, which you probably are, then that should be a real mark of shame.

>> No.22503899

>>22503710
probably Vantablack

not perfect but would have been right at home in a real pulp anthology from back in the day

>> No.22503900

>>22503710
Nothing stuck out as worth reading.

>> No.22504303

>>22503710
Mouths and Nightshift were great. Muriel's Intruder also. Not a lot of misses really, not when compared to Tales 1.

>> No.22504448

>>22504303
But nothing particularly great either?

>> No.22504511

>>22504448
>”nothing particularly great”
>first sentence describes two stories as “great”
The cope is rotting your brain

>> No.22504812

>>22504511
When's the next Steve Donoghue review bros?

>> No.22504839

>>22504812
Alas, the Unrealcucks were too impoverished to send him a review copy this time around.

>> No.22504849

>>22504839
Actually, after he got done swimming in his private lake, Zulu sent a copy of Tales 2 to Steve. It's engraved in gold plates and weighs 1000 pounds.

>> No.22505210

>>22504849
Sure hope his private lake isn't infested with brain-eating amoebas.

>> No.22505219

>>22505210
He has a reputable lake cleaning company. What was it... Hogden Holdings, I think, unassociated with any brain eating or amoebas or underwater spooks of any kind.

>> No.22505238

>>22498501
t. Tranny Fox

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>>22496920
>thriving
Bragging again about buying a youtube account?

>> No.22506063

>>22502160
I remember at least 7 submissions, but ffa-anon stopped responding, so people stopped submitting.

>> No.22506324

>>22503710
Mouths and Muriel’s Intruder

>> No.22506958
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bump

>> No.22507085

>>22506958
Fuck you. I hate this. Kys immediately

>> No.22507675

>>22506958
>Anon is still not on there

>> No.22507795

>>22507085
Aw, poor Frank is sore he has no friends.

>> No.22507827

I killed myself. Happy now?

>> No.22507841

>>22507827
And you’re posting this from beyond the grave?

>> No.22507849

>>22507827
The Atlas situation has escalated.

>> No.22507917

>>22507849
nah atlas is chill rn i just talked to her

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>>22506958
i like being included...but why do i look like a squirrel?

>> No.22508205

>>22508179
Think of it as a poorly-rendered lemur

>> No.22508223

>>22496372
>PDF
come on, son

>> No.22508420

>>22506958
>Unreal thread
>none of the core members of Unreal Press are in this

>> No.22508586

>>22508179
Come back Lemur...

>> No.22508918

>>22508586
That nigga still hangs out on this board all the time lol

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>>22508586
>>22508918
i'll return to the discord...but only if i can sexual harass Miles without incurring penalties.

>> No.22509244

>>22509233
You have blanket permission to sexually harass Miles to your heart’s content

>> No.22509275

>>22509233
the penalties are the fun part

>> No.22509315

>>22509233
Come at me nigger

>> No.22509570

>>22506958
this is cute, but someone needs to draw an original version with those people

>> No.22509595

>>22496372
https://discord.gg/PucXuuTv
Current invite. The old one has expired.

>> No.22509646

>>22509595
Discord trannies ngmi

>> No.22509825

>>22496372
Muriel’s Intruder was kino

>> No.22509888

>>22499585
and? name a single book by a troon that will still be read in 100 years

>> No.22509902

>>22509888
Females by Andrea Long Chu
Whipping Girl by Julia Serano

>> No.22509905

>>22509888
Tales of the Unreal #2.

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>>22509888
Call of the Crocodile by Francine Gardner

>> No.22509932

>>22509905
No one is even reading that in the present..

>>22509911
Gardner won't be alive to shill in 100 years from now.

>> No.22509952

>>22509825
Disagree!

>> No.22509954

>>22509952
Why desu? I thought it was a good story

>> No.22510010

Steve Donoghue recently said in one of his videos (https://youtu.be/acPApHPLl30?si=GGtQNV0T4XVC01ZK&t=439)) that he wants somebody from unreal press to email him.

>> No.22510028

>>22509233
Hello Lemur. Do you have any horror movie recs? I’m starvin

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>>22510028
you gotta see Cobweb (2023)

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>>22510010
nice!

>> No.22510325

>>22509911
That's the closest Francine will ever get to a wiener.

>> No.22510328

>>22510010
"It's a professional product that you're doing here"
B-but the /lit/crabs told me it was le bad!

>> No.22510338

>>22510325
Shut up lmao

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What's the verdict?

>> No.22510379

>>22508223
Can't you just convert it yourself?

>> No.22510610

>>22509570
No one even knows what half of them look like

>> No.22510645

>>22510362
Gay and retarded

>> No.22511291

>>22510328
What are you, a sheep? Think for yourself.

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>>22509595
Miles, prepare your metaphorical butthole!

>> No.22511987

I've read plenty of golden age scifi so I started to write a short story. How many of you plan to write scifi for the next issue?

>> No.22512216

>>22511987
I’ve got a piece, it’ll be more Dick than the golden age of pulp though.

>> No.22512319

what are the active anon magazines?

>> No.22512438

>>22512319
Unreal Tales
&amp magazine
minimag

there are older /lit/ collab projects that were single books or have ended. And /wg/ is also its own thing.

>> No.22513064

>>22512438
So minimag is still a thing?

>> No.22513079

>>22513064
Alive and well
https://instagram.com/minimag_write?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ==

>> No.22513659

>>22512216
I sure hope you mean Philip K.Dick, and not pr0n.

>> No.22513667

>>22513079
the minimag covers just keep getting better and better

>> No.22514563

>>22509932
Hopefully Frank will die soon from alcoholism, lung cancer, or a DoorDash delivery writer poisoning his food to strke back for his lousy tipping. It's kind of amazing he's lived as long as he has.

>> No.22514980

>>22513079
Minimag has transcended 4chan the way lit quarterly couldnt.

>> No.22515047

>>22514980
yes

>> No.22515210
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>>22514980
>>22515047
Hasn't miniMAG always pulled a significant chunk of its writing from off of /lit/? I don't mean to crab, and I know he advertises here and that /lit/ anons do have stuff in it, but that puts it in a really different camp from most other /lit/ projects. Take a look at issue 63: the end page shows the authors and most of them look like they're from off-site (obviously not something he's trying to hide, plus he's talked about it openly before).

You can't really talk about transcending 4chan when it's always been sort of half in and half out, being a little generous with the "half" here.

>> No.22515449

>>22514563
We haven't gotten to the fat Frank arc yet. We got a ways to go.

>> No.22515462

Based Krake!
https://youtu.be/fpgJL_43BU4?si=feg2YUpLiWKc_NpY&t=322

>> No.22515551

>>22515462
The incredible irony of this video is that for Tales 1, more than half of the people I know who picked it up ended up losing interest at James' KGB Agents story

>> No.22515572

>>22515462
>story anthologies all SUCK— except this one featuring me. But not THIS one I got kicked out of! They’re all MEAN!
Genuinely feel sad for this lil nigga. Hope he finds god.

>> No.22515594

When is the due date for submissions for the third issue?

>> No.22515617

>>22515551
>>22515572
>doesn't refute his point
lmao. It's a fact that the only people who bought Tales were authors being published, authors who wanted to suck ass in the hopes of being published next time, and family and friends of the authors. No one bought it because they wanted an anthology.
Probably why no one is talking about the stories in this thread, just drama about who you hate.

>> No.22515631

>>22515572
>But not THIS one I got kicked out of!
Krake left because you kept doxing people. He wasn't "kicked out". Miles begged him to stay and had a long speech about how they'd "work great together."

>> No.22515699

>>22515462
>>22515462
This is humorous. His arguments are idiotic, he ignores the idea, upon which genre and lit mags were built on in the first place, that an enjoyer of a type of literature would also enjoy a collection of stories in this same genre. The same amount of investment as a novel, but you get to experience moe permutations of your preferred genre. His "argument" also applies to any short story collection, which is just ridiculous, as the charm of a great short story can be and often is equal to or greater than the pleasure derived from reading a novel, and the investment is much smaller. He seems to subconsciously prioritize the story's ability to transport you into another world, and he places a premium on the time it allows you to spend there. That's a growing but still niche desire.

In addition to the general weakness of his argument, certain genres exist almost entirely within the form of short stories. Weird fiction very rarely exists in novel length. You'll note that the current governors of the genre, Ligotti and Evenson, among others, don't even write novels at all. So, in the specific case of the weird fiction reader, no, he would not prefer or seek out a novel.

The rest of the video is noise about marketing and general asspain. The point about sales is so silly. What he's describing is the market for every book published without sufficient momentum or appeal. An anthology simply, at a minimum, takes that market and multiplies it by 12. Tales and ANVIL did transcend that market, which is admittedly extremely difficult, and ANVIL did it to a far greater degree than Tales.

All in all, a pretty lame take, and one that his own audience apparently disagrees with(but that's good for the algorithm so maybe it's intentional)

>> No.22515713

>>22515617
Proof? Do you have a list of who bought it?
>>22515631
why does someone who disapprove of doxxing post their YouTube videos to 4chan? Whatever your reason for hating Unreal are, it looks like they win if they can make you this buttblasted.

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>>22515462
>>22515631
>mfw thinking about you hurting
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.

>> No.22515766

>>22515713
Krake was doing 80% of the work during Tales 1. If anyone knows who it was selling to, it would be him.
>why does someone who disapprove of doxxing post their YouTube videos to 4chan?
What are you even trying to say? Do you actually think doxing is a 4chan thing outside of /b/?

>> No.22515786

>>22515766
What I’m saying is if you are so opposed to doxxing, maybe don’t post your face and YouTube channel to a board filled with the people you were ostensibly afraid of being doxxed to. Further, if you’re constantly griefing these guys who are doing this supposed doxxing, why are you continuing to antagonize on your personal YouTube channel? It sounds more like you just have personal problems with some or all of them and can’t handle the seethe.

And if you did “%80 of the work” go ahead and post some proof, and don’t bother telling us you’re not actually Krake now. This is going to blow your mind but there are no Krake scholars keeping tabs on the details of your petty fights

>> No.22515808

>>22515786
>a board filled with the people you were ostensibly afraid of being doxxed to.
Krake wasn't the one doxed you halfwit. He left because Rhyme kept doxing everyone who hurt his feelings and Krake didn't want to associate himself with a walking dumpster fire, especially one that had spent the last 3 years grinding out just 300 subscribers, the vast majority of whom were failed authors looking for exposure.

>> No.22515809

>>22515786
AFAIK there's no ill sentiment from "Unreal" towards Krake. People come and go in groups that feature a hundred dudes. Was just funny to see him randomly diss Tales in a youtube video.

He definitely didn't do close to 80% of the work. He submitted a story like all of the other contributors. In terms of construction it was mostly Guy Hayes and then myself. I don't have a list of who bought but I do know how many people bought our prior anthologies. Definitely tapped into a different market this go.

>> No.22515829

>>22515808
Lol, you really can’t even contain your impotent rage long enough to make sense. You’re saying you left because you just couldn’t handle that kind of childish behavior, then put out a “diss video” full of rambling self-contradictions just to spite the people you consider yourself too good for? You’re honestly too pathetic to even care about. From what you say here >>22515631 it sounds like Miles was trying to be a decent person but that seems to be completely lost on such a bitter child. Enjoy the seethe, I guess.

>> No.22515845

>>22515829
>diss video
It was 55 frames of the book being held up. Stop crying like a bitch. The video was about why anthologies are bad. Tales just happens to be an especially potent example of a bad anthology.

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>>22515845
Sometimes 55 frames is enough to make a heart soar

>> No.22515863

>>22515845
OK, James.
Seethe a little less, though. It isn’t good for you.

>> No.22515905

Why are you idiots talking about yourselves in the third person as if you're pulling quotes from a fucking press release or something?

>> No.22516034

Krake is right. This thread is proof that no one is reading the stories.

>> No.22516226

>>22516034
Steve is :^)

I wonder if he thinks my story is better than any of those dusty old penguin classics he always reads?

Probably!

>> No.22516679

>>22515210
>he’s talked about it openly before
Where? I’ve never seen him mention that in the minimag threads

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>>22515699
>Weird fiction very rarely exists in novel length
Our Lord and Savior PKD refutes you.

>> No.22517024

>>22515572
>THIS one I got kicked out of!
I think everyone knows by now that it was Rhyme who got kicked out, not Krake. Krake left because he didn't like the doxing and didn't feel like associating with a bunch of failures who were in the process of digging their own graves.
It's funny watching you guys continue to fail so hard when he's grown so much.

>> No.22517093

>>22515699
Checked

>> No.22517135

>>22515631
Stop bitching about the doxing. Everyone who we doxed deserved it.

>> No.22517221

>>22517010
Weird is a huge umbrella but Dick certainly occupies a spot far away from the center, love him, but he’s not really known for works where the high concept mind bending stuff intrudes on an otherwise mundane world. Which is almost the staple of weird fiction. He’s known, if anything, for grounding high minded science fiction concepts by incorporating them into the background of his universes. Of course there are works that deviate from this. But, the type of fiction that descends pretty directly from Poe, Lovecraft, Machen etc, is pretty distinct from Dick’s work. There’s a similarity to Clark Ashton Smith, who is known for Worlds and exploration of occult ideas. Who also never wrote something novel length, unfortunately.

>> No.22517317

>>22516679
I can't pinpoint where, but I'm quite certain you'd come across it if you wanted to do a full pick through the /lit/ archives. And regardless, look at the picture I posted and tell me how many of those people you think are from /lit/ or are even /lit/ adjacent.

My point is that he's not shy about /lit/ being a limited pool of writers, not that he's disingenuous about it. The list of authors says enough without his direct confirmation anyway. My qualms are only with the people misrepresenting it.

>> No.22517352

>>22517317
Why do you give a fuck whether people describe MiniMAG as a /lit/ project or not? Saying it’s a /lit/ zine is still an accurate statement. No one is misrepresenting anything.

>> No.22517785

>>22515594
Dec 1st

>> No.22517892

>>22517317
Anything that advertises and calls for subs on /lit/ counts. Simple as.

>> No.22517961

>>22517352
>>22517892
You two are retards. I was specifically calling out the anon who said
>Minimag has transcended 4chan the way lit quarterly couldnt
when it's been a mix of 4chan with outsiders since the start.

>> No.22518450

>>22515210
How is Tooky's doing? Been awhile since I've seen new content.

>> No.22518499

>>22517135
Based. Ari Coon deserved what he got.

>> No.22518558

>>22518450
Does Tooky write or is it just a book club?

>> No.22518643

>>22518558
>>22518450
He posts his writing on his substack once or twice a month. It’s mediocre. The book club is so bad as to be unlistenable.

>> No.22518718

>>22518643
Some of his takes are good, e.g., the petroleum article. His Book Club is good as well for a small podcast with what, less than 10 episodes under the belt? Transitions, animations, plus clean audio and topics that haven't been rehashed a billion times by other podcasts.

>> No.22518895

>>22518718
Tthe hosts speak awkwardly and autistically and have no conversational chemistry. Their dialogue doesn’t flow or feel natural, and the jokes rarely land. It’s just a boring, uncomfortable listening experience.

>> No.22519037

>>22518895
Maybe in the first few episodes. Their recent reviews have been great to listen to while I work. Supposedly they're doing INCEL and Nutcrankr this month. I've been waiting for reviews of that that aren't from the same sphere as the guys who wrote it.

>> No.22519062

>>22519037
The INCEL author is in the wg server with all of the guys from Tooky’s, there definitely in the same sphere

>> No.22519081

>>22519037
I'm going to read and review INCEL eventually. I don't know what you mean by "same sphere" but I might take some issue with it considering the author has a mission statement of sorts that doesn't help him in terms of relating to the target audience.

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>>22509595
this current invite is shit
is there a new link, s'il vous plaît?

>> No.22519323

>>22518895
Listen to the Marty Phillip's Millennium episode or the Man's World ep. They have organic chemistry and good humour.

>> No.22519363

>>22519232
https://discord.gg/AtDXjC5n

>> No.22519372

>>22496372
How long are submissions open for?

>> No.22519539

>>22519372
Until Dec 1st.

>> No.22520687

>>22517961
stop seething faggot

>> No.22520801

>>22496372
>stories which pay homage to the pulp and golden age of science-fiction writing
simple
>play a round of SS13
>write out the sperging with some prose
>job done

>> No.22520819

>>22518450
The podcast is good. They plan to discuss Passage Prize 2, Nutcrankr, and Incel.

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22521125

basado

>> No.22521277

>>22520687
shut it retardo

>> No.22521385

why the hell is it bigger than the first one? I thought it was the same length. Will review as I read later tho

>> No.22521572

>>22520819
>Passage Press
On my radar, but I want them to publish something other than short stories or blog posts. Jackelope hill is more interesting to me.

>> No.22521586

>>22521385
AFAIK he did it for the lulz. He’s going to make them successfully larger.

>> No.22521597

>>22521586
Tell him to definitely not do that.

>> No.22521608

>>22521597
If you don't like it, make your own anthology series.

>> No.22521630

>>22521586
Shorter and tighter would be the smart thing to do. They're finally getting enough entries to pick and choose, and they'd forfeit that advantage by bloating it. But hey, who wants to have to tell their e-bros that their writing isn't good enough?

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>>22521385
>bigger than the first one?
girth & length

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>>22521608
I will.

>> No.22521889

>>22521827
an anthology made out of dicks with balls of rage?
that could work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7abReXKTP6A

>> No.22523134

>>22496372

Certified literary genius here. MFA. Scholarship. Published and wealthy.

Water Nymph was good but the story felt familiar. Maybe Borges or Lovecraft wrote something very similar.

Didn't really like anything else. V Bellingham's story was interesting and had potential but didn't land.

I seriously recommend reducing the number of stories. Maybe even releasing monthly editions with fewer stories works out better.

>> No.22523184

>>22523134
>fewer stories
>monthly
This release took them from February to September. From what the stories they accepted, that's a couple stories a month at best. I agree that these should be made shorter and tighter, so I'm only pointing out that monthly releases would make that worse.

>> No.22523266

>>22523184
They had over 40 submissions this time around

>> No.22523321

>>22523266
Yeah, but the guy above is suggesting they trim it down even further. If we take the ones published to have been the best, then using any more than that would have lowered the quality, so forget about them.

With 17 total in the release, that's less than three stories per release if they had done a monthly schedule (and of course supposing that it was a steady stream of stories over all seven months). You can't really do monthly releases if it's only two or three stories (at best), at least not in print.

>> No.22523374

>>22523321
based math autist

>> No.22523431

>>22523184
Sure, disregard monthly. They should still keep it to five or seven stories at most.

>> No.22523468

>>22523134
>arrogant ass
pyw

>> No.22524030

>>22523134
Yeah, I could tell you were a complete phony.

>> No.22525131

Bump. Anyone doing the sci-fi submission?

>> No.22525136

Krake won.
Gardner won.

>> No.22525270

>>22523321
Literally all they had to do was keep the same amount of stories and use their surplus leway to condense quality, that and keep the cover size the same. What gives. Is it because there was a leadership change or was that a fake rumor?

>> No.22525285

>>22525270
>Is it because there was a leadership change or was that a fake rumor?
Not a rumor. Old lead got kicked out for doxing people.

>> No.22525317

>>22523431
Agreed.

>>22525270
I've got no clue about why it was made larger, but I'm pretty sure the things about losing members and leadership switching were true. Though now it sounds like some of that was just temporary.

Earlier I joked about nobody wanting to turn away their friends, but this could be an example of that. To be fair, I have no idea what the composition of writers is like in Tales 2 and how much it comes from their long-time clique, so I'm suggesting it somewhat baselessly. Regardless, inevitably there could be conflict between "we want to show off our friends' writing" and "we want to show off good writing".

>> No.22525366

>>22525136
Gardner got at least 7 of his spam-shilling threads deleted yesterday by the jannies. Kind of the opposite of winning.

>> No.22525474

>>22525317
> losing members and leadership switching
Rhyme and this guy Zapp did a lot of work on Tales 1. Miles was in charge of Tales 2, hence why the cover design, editing, and formatting sucked ass. Rhyme is back now, so hopefully Tales 3 will be better. The only ones permanently banished from Unreal for their sins are AnderSEN and Ari Coon.

>> No.22525483

>>22525474
And Gardner. Krake too if he keeps it up.

>> No.22525603

>>22525474
>why the cover design, editing, and formatting sucked ass
Design and formatting didn't look bad to me, and editing seemed to be an issue way longer back than just this issue.

>> No.22525638

>>22525603
Tales 1 had better formatting in every way. The pocketbook size was much more appealing, and the little drawings at the beginning of each story added a lot. Tales 2 missed out on that. The cover of Tales 1 was also noticeably better; the title text on the Tales 2 cover is overly large. The tagline text is also awkwardly close to the woman’s neck, which is visually off-putting, and the author’s names are difficult to read because the background is so busy. And the AI art is low quality and obvious this time around, unlike Tales 1 where it was a bit more tasteful and understated. It generally looks much more clumsy and amateur than Tales 1.

>> No.22525659

>>22525638
It’s funny how Tales 1 and 2 get shit for AI artwork but my AI story that they published still hasn’t been outed yet.
I used Horde. Come on guys.

>> No.22525767

>>22525659
Give us a hint at least

>> No.22525834

>>22525317
Tales was never about showing off our friends writing. We only got 17 subs for the first release and those were all friends. It just ended up that way. Tales 2 is mostly people from the outside, in fact, multiple members had their submissions rejected.

>> No.22525844

>>22525659
Theres only one story it could’ve been, and if Nuclear Man was generated then very good job to the AI.

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22525892

I just want to know what people thought of Ruby Dagger man.

>> No.22525966

>>22525892
I personally found it unfocused and derivative. On the up side, at least it was short.

>> No.22525967

>>22525638
>size
In #1 you see a lot of awkward runs in the text because it's justified across such a small width, as well as really short orphan lines at the starts of pages. Small pages may be better for shorter stories, since they don't look so absurdly short, but it's easy to see flaws in the actual text flow that occur because it wasn't done carefully.
Upping the size could have also been a way to help with cost, since it falls in the same price bracket as the older size while reducing the number of pages. I wouldn't assume that it was deliberate, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
Maybe the smaller version feels better in hand than the larger one.
>drawings
Initially I saw those as way too amateurish, but looking back some are pretty good, and the worst are only mediocre. It breaks things up nicely and prevents the monotony you'd run into just putting all this through a template, but I'm not sure it'd be something worth holding out on. You get somebody willing to do it once, but he's just a random guy, so what happens to your format when he, like most people on the internet, up and leaves? It makes sense that it was absent this time with the whole quasi-collapse being alluded to. The drawings are also something that necessarily has to be left to the end, so if you don't coordinate well then you risk delaying things.
>title
I think your critique of the title size is pointless (doesn't look out of place, at least). If anything, the problem is that it's off center.
>cover
The illustration, ignoring contrast issues, isn't any more appallingly AIish than the first, maybe suffering because it depicts a person rather than a thing. The author names should have been on a darker background, but aligning them to the left is an improvement.

Looking through, I did notice that #1 had the proper alternating margin widths, and not #2. It's not really a necessity, but I guess you could call them more professional.

Drop caps in #2 are a decent touch, but probably should have been made two lines tall. Right now they're taller than the titles.

#1 also has a mix of smart and plain quote marks, as well as a mix of punctuation types. Take a look at Vacui for the plain quotes and false em dashes, then check the stories above. #2 seems to have cleaned this up (based off my quick ctrl-F). I'd call that a really big improvement, although now I see one entry in #2 (Amousai) that used en dashes (looks smaller than em) with spaces around them instead of the right thing.

#2 also has those blurbs in the table of contents, which are kind of corny but also a nice touch in the vein of Weird Tales.

Other differences could be reduced to a matter of taste. The margin titles and page numbers are spaced kind of funny in #1, but it's not really bad enough to call it bad.

>>22525659
Muriel's Intruder is my guess since that dude's shtick is AI.

>>22525834
That's good to hear. From the outside looking in I always assume these sorts of groups fall into that kind of trap.

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>>22525844
If Nuclear Man was written by AI, then perhaps human writers /are/ in trouble...it means AI actually understands story structure and how to deliver emotion. Perhaps the news-writing MSN AI (seen in picrel) is an outlier.

>> No.22525981

>>22525967
Muriel’s Intruder definitely isn’t AI.

>> No.22526298

>>22525967
all of this is just rampant autism and nitpicking

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>>22525892
I liked the character voice and over fantasy schtick of it but it had some slightly funky grammar (pic related was the main example, but was one or 2 instances besides) and was a bit adjective flabby for my taste. The structure was what really held it back per the other anon's point about "unfocused" - in 3 pages we jump from stealing the dagger, his life as a teen, him murdering in the past tense, him having sold the dagger already but still having murder urges and then at the end realize where we actually "are". I think it needed to be grounded very early and clearly in a specific moment right from the start (e.g. sitting in rented room and having a panic attack about the urge to kill after he sold the dagger), sure the character could ruminate on the past but something to ground us.

Overall not a bad story though, fun concept and execution provided fun characterization and setting so it was in no way painful to get through (and was short on top of that). Just structurally needed narrowing down for it's length in my opinion.

>> No.22526664

What did you guys think of Mouths?

>> No.22526725

>>22526664
Pretty cool. Great concept, neat means of conveying the story through emails, I especially like the idea of people getting forgotten gradually when devoured. Good concepts, appreciate the little explanations for them.

>> No.22526838

>>22525966
Thanks. What did you find derivative about it? The concept of the story, or the story itself? I can understand the unfocusedness, after having reread it a thousand times now.

>>22526487
Thanks for the feedback! The story used to be like ~150-200 words shorter, so before I submitted it I added some lines and rearranged parts of it.
So the unfocused part definitely makes sense, good feedback to work with. Some of the funky grammar might be because I'm ESL.


I'm going to let the story sit for a while. Keep practicing, and refine before I sell the movie rights.

>> No.22526856

>>22525892
Fun retro story with some cool imagery, but feels more like the beginning of something bigger rather than a self contained yarn. Still enjoyed it, though!

>> No.22527038

>>22526838
I called it derivative because it sounded like a typical summer-camp ghost story.

>> No.22527098

>>22526664
Seems like they should have tried to throw toxic waste (e.g. spent nuclear fuel) into the mouths. Either the mouths would die, or we'd finally have a way to dispose of otherwise permanent toxic waste.

>> No.22527107

>>22527098
Nah, can't beat the mouths. Those fuckers liked meat. They might not like toxic waste. They might spit that out. They spit the girl out after all.

>> No.22527499

>>22525844
>>22525767
>>22525967
Not telling you which one it was but those are interesting guesses. I've also been sending in random shit I found on AO3 but you didn't print any of those this time.
&amp has published a couple pieces of my AI slop but it's honestly kind of boring to trick them since they'll print literally anything they get.

>> No.22527706

>>22527499
>>22527499
I gotta say that I don't believe you. This is literally the first thing we've ever published that had major contribution from strangers. Anthology 1 and 2 were entirely in house, Tales 1 had, as I mentioned, one outside submission(that was printed). Can't say anything for Tales 2 but that bit about sending random fanfics really doesn't seem possible. Our prior "calls for submission" resulted in like 5 total submissions across 2 publications. You may have been in the third anthology but that one had outside submissions from dudes unrelated to /lit/(via referral) and we just published everything we got.

>> No.22528756

>>22525967
Nobody wants your excuses, Miles.
In the same way nobody puts on a flick with a prelude caption "whoops sorry there should be a scene here but our actor got sick and the director had to babysit a neighbor's dog that week just fill in the blank with your imagination". In this same sense you either present a great final product or you don't. 90 percent of people who buy the book and are bothered by a nagging issue in the back of their minds which they can't place their finger on will not be in this thread to hear your excuses.

>> No.22528797

>>22527706
>I gotta say that I don't believe you.
That's okay. I'd prefer you didn't believe me. It's funnier if I keep this going.
With the state of these threads I don't expect you guys to last much longer so when you're official disbandment is announced I'll do a postmortem where I list out the stories that were mine.

>>22528756
>90 percent of people who buy the book and are bothered by a nagging issue in the back of their minds which they can't place their finger on will not be in this thread to hear your excuses.
Considering that 99% of their readers are authors who have been published, are looking to get published, or are socially inept retards who use the Unreal Discord as a replacement for human contact--and considering that all of those people were @everyone'd with a link to this thread demanding help at 8:22PM PDT last night--yes, they probably will see Mile's excuses in this thread.

>> No.22528959

>>22525967
> from the outside looking in
You seem interested and knowledgeable about formatting. Why not get involved? Unreal could use someone with your eye for detail.

>> No.22529408

>>22528797
Well, thanks for revealing yourself as a duplicitous troll with little prompting.

>> No.22529772

>>22528797
Well that's just not true, I'm in that server

>> No.22529922

>>22528959
I can say this is more of a "teach a man to fish" kind of thing. They already format these things themselves, so they might as well just learn to look out for a few extra details. Plus I'm not personally interested in dumping time into projects like this; I've just got a passing fascination with whatever is coming out of /lit/, and my tism gets going when I start looking too close.

>> No.22530461

>>22528959
Because he would start something and never finish it, just like he did with &amp’s Best Of

>> No.22531126

>>22530461
lol, what a fag

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>>22531126
yeah fuck that loser
hurry up bitch!
eat shit!

>> No.22531456

>>22531310
Cringe. Go work on the Best Of instead of shitting up our subs thread with your tripfagging.

>> No.22532024

>>22496372
The weird horror theme is kino, why are you switching to sci-fi?

>> No.22532751

>>22496372
>>22503710

I never seen this before because I don't go on /lit/ very often so I don't really have any opinion on this, but this thread seems very artificial. It's just an advertisement and 4channers tend to hate that so that and would rather things be more genuine, that's why you guys are getting hate. This looks cool and initially I would had been interested, but now that you have advertised your pulp fiction, I am not interested at all because ads just make me not want anything to do with the product

>oh so you just expect us to gain publicity and readers with out ads?
No, but actually yes, unironically
I wish you all the best but I won't be reading it
>Giga-Chad.jpg

>> No.22532931

>>22532751
>that's why you guys are getting hate.
Half of the hate they get is because they keep airing their discord drama here.

>> No.22532964

>>22532024
Yeah it's not really Weird Tales if it's sci-fi

>> No.22533085

>>22532964
>>22532751
Weird Tales had plenty of science fiction , most of them essentially being Tarzan stories set on an alien planet. But plenty being spacefaring adventure tales as well. Clark Ashton Smith and Robert E Howard aren’t primarily known for horror like Lovecraft, but instead produced (dark) fantasy works.
Weird Fiction has evolved to mean mostly horror, but Weird Tales was a great big pulp umbrella. However, if Tales randomly becomes a Clarkesworld issue it’ll definitely be an unwelcome divergence. But I doubt that’ll happen.

>> No.22533447

Listen up twinks! New Tooky’s episode just dropped!

>> No.22533557

>>22532931
that's based though

>> No.22533564

>>22529922
So why exactly should we start appealing to autists such as yourself?

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>>22533447
You can just post it next time breh, NUTCRANKR by Dan Baltic:
https://youtu.be/GM_b9ybd3jw?si=45GEzQvUpDSRWuw1

>> No.22533812

>>22525131
I made a first draft about Naval scientists studying a mutated animal.

>> No.22533891

>>22532751
They are just asking for submissions retard.

>> No.22534171

>>22532751
How the fuck are people supposed to even find out about a new release if it’s not advertised anywhere? KYS

>> No.22534229

>>22534171
it's a troll lol

>> No.22534526

>>22533812
Sounds kino

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>>22533603
nice
as always, the audio is glorious.

>> No.22534917

>>22533603
Stop promoting your bullshit, no one gives a fuck

>> No.22535219

>>22534171
4chan is already full to the brim with shit. The last thing it needs is advert threads (which is against the global rules)

>> No.22535275

>>22534758
Agreed

>> No.22535288

>>22496372
Is there a time limit? I’d love to write something.

>> No.22535346

>>22535288
Submissions are due by December 1st

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>>22535346
Thanks. Although my work probably won’t be good enough to get in as it’s my first time writing a story in ages, I’m using this as a reason to get a short story together.
I remember hearing that there used to be scientists who were researching stuff like nuclear warfare but couldn’t get published in journals due to secrecy during WWII, so they wrote their findings as science fiction tales. I’d like to “pay homage” to that (although I’m not sure how true it is since the only relevant story I can find online is about a sci-if short called Deadline that ended up with the FBI paying the author a visit. I’m going to use my background in Marine Biology to add in some xenobiology mumbo jumbo. I think I can figure out how to asspull real life biology to create a story halfway between the Priest’s tale in Hyperion and a very special universally hated episode of Star Trek Voyager.

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>>22512216
>it’ll contain more dick than the golden age of pulp though.

>> No.22537658

>>22535346
When’s the next one gonna release then? Feb?

>> No.22537662

Thread theme
https://youtu.be/ZMk5MzHsA2Q?si=cD00coB6V1WAQwAE

>> No.22538527

>>22537662
Kino

>> No.22539008

The unrealcucks are writing poems in their server to roast the people they doxed. Unreal press is a cult

cross is crass and crude and shady
shade is smooth but sound not, maybe
miles is meek but molding, baby
boon a goon, a buffoon b-lady
iris wired us, tired us, flailing
frankie bent thee, sent thee wailing
wigger wardens wrought thy ailing
zulu flew thru, soon prevailing
andersen, layperson, made worsen
le(m)ur ti(n)y wiener drea(m)er(—)least he aint a (d)i(r)e schemer
schizos, simps, glowies, gays, and moths, see where takes us next their dark plots.

>> No.22539159

>>22539008
BARS

>> No.22539313

>>22539008
What? Someone explain this shit

>> No.22539474

>>22539008
illiterate shit from half-wits with small dicks
insufficient even for g-hits
incapable clearly of lyrics

crying online: you lose
always moving the targets you pass to
always lower the hoops that you jump through

with page-width rejects writing e-boy diss-tracks
put that shit on the fridge, does mommy like that?
get back to work, where's your black Wendy's hat?

edits like kids: you make none
don't need no condom, you never been laid once
too busy throwing tantrums

just a hissy fit with bitch tits
slap that keyboard with weak wrists
typing words lacking eloquence
inversion of writ wit
humorous, you never been*


*say "been" like "bin"

>> No.22539501

>>22539008
The dude that wrote this isn't even part of the press

>> No.22539577

>>22539474
seethe harder coon

>> No.22539589

>>22539577
Sorry, I think I'm maxed out. My manbaby muse has left me.

>> No.22539846

>>22539008
This is so embarrassing that I'm making a genuine plea that Unreal commit ritual seppuku. It's the only thing that can undo this second hand shame I'm feeling.

>>22539474
Kino.

>> No.22539853

>>22539846
samefag

>> No.22539858

>>22539853
But I was a new IP? That was my first post dummy.

>> No.22539861

>>22539474
>with page-width rejects writing e-boy diss-tracks
>put that shit on the fridge, does mommy like that?
>get back to work, where's your black Wendy's hat?
Unironically great.

>> No.22540230

>>22539861
Samefag

>> No.22540675

>>22539008
It was literally a random dude who wrote this shit, he isn’t even involved with Unreal

>> No.22540687

>>22540675
>he bumps the thread and cries a bit
>Unrealie bros wish to coexist!
>we're really cool, I promise this!
>it's not our fault we peddle shit!
>if we drop the price will you purchase it?

>> No.22540707

>>22540675
Kek. So embarrassed he feels the need to disavow.

>> No.22540726

>>22539008
Waow! They don’t call him Rhyme&Grind for nothing!

>> No.22540752

please keep the thread on topic. Anyone read the new Tales?

>> No.22540927 [DELETED] 

>>>/vg/447875110
Artificial Academy 2 General /aa2g/ #1293
Ready to Serve Edition

Welcome, this general is for the discussion of ILLUSION's Artificial Academy 2.

COPY ERROR MESSAGES WITH CTRL+C, PASTE THEM WITH CTRL+V INTO GOOGLE TRANSLATE. JUST CLICK THE WINDOW AND PRESS CTRL + C, IT WORKS.

>Downloads:
/aa2g/ Pre-Installed Game, AA2Mini: https://tsukiyo.me/AAA/AA2MiniPPX.xml
AAUnlimited updates: https://github.com/aa2g/AA2Unlimited/releases

>Information:
AA2Mini Install Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS8Ap6CrmSNXRsKG9jsIMqHYuHM3Cfs5qE5nX6iIgfzLlcWnmiwzmOrp27ytEMX03lFNRR7U5UXJalA/pub
General FAQ:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200216045726/https://pastebin.com/bhrA6iGx
AAU Guide and Resources (Modules, Tans, Props, Poses, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qb1X0oOdMKU4OIDp8AfFdLtl5y_4jeOOQfPQ2F-PKQ/edit#gid=0

>Character Cards [Database], now with a list of every NonOC in the megas:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1niC6g-Xd2a2yaY98NBFdAXnURi4ly2-lKty69rkQbJ0/edit#gid=2085826690
https://db.bepis.moe/aa2/

>Mods & More:
Mods for AAU/AA2Mini (ppx format, the mediafire has everything):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vwrmdohus4vhh/Mods
/aa2g/ Modding Reference Guide (Slot lists for Hair/Clothes/Faces, List Guides, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gwmoVpKuSuF0PtEPLEB17eK_dexPaKU106ShZEpBLhg/edit#gid=1751233129
Booru: https://aau.booru.org

>HELP! I have a Nvidia card and my game crashes on startup!
Try the dgVoodoo option in the new win10fix settings.
Alternative: Update your AAU and see if it happens again. If so, disable win10fix, enable wined3d and software vertex processing.
>HELP! Required Windows 11 update broke things!
winkey+R -> ms-settings:developers -> Terminal=Windows Console Host

Previous Thread:
>>>/vg/445943839

>> No.22540930

>>22540927
love this guy

>> No.22540940 [DELETED] 

>>>/vg/447875110
Artificial Academy 2 General /aa2g/ #1293
Ready to Serve Edition

Welcome, this general is for the discussion of ILLUSION's Artificial Academy 2.

COPY ERROR MESSAGES WITH CTRL+C, PASTE THEM WITH CTRL+V INTO GOOGLE TRANSLATE. JUST CLICK THE WINDOW AND PRESS CTRL + C, IT WORKS.

>Downloads:
/aa2g/ Pre-Installed Game, AA2Mini: https://tsukiyo.me/AAA/AA2MiniPPX.xml
AAUnlimited updates: https://github.com/aa2g/AA2Unlimited/releases

>Information:
AA2Mini Install Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS8Ap6CrmSNXRsKG9jsIMqHYuHM3Cfs5qE5nX6iIgfzLlcWnmiwzmOrp27ytEMX03lFNRR7U5UXJalA/pub
General FAQ:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200216045726/https://pastebin.com/bhrA6iGx
AAU Guide and Resources (Modules, Tans, Props, Poses, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qb1X0oOdMKU4OIDp8AfFdLtl5y_4jeOOQfPQ2F-PKQ/edit#gid=0

>Character Cards [Database], now with a list of every NonOC in the megas:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1niC6g-Xd2a2yaY98NBFdAXnURi4ly2-lKty69rkQbJ0/edit#gid=2085826690
https://db.bepis.moe/aa2/

>Mods & More:
Mods for AAU/AA2Mini (ppx format, the mediafire has everything):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vwrmdohus4vhh/Mods
/aa2g/ Modding Reference Guide (Slot lists for Hair/Clothes/Faces, List Guides, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gwmoVpKuSuF0PtEPLEB17eK_dexPaKU106ShZEpBLhg/edit#gid=1751233129
Booru: https://aau.booru.org

>HELP! I have a Nvidia card and my game crashes on startup!
Try the dgVoodoo option in the new win10fix settings.
Alternative: Update your AAU and see if it happens again. If so, disable win10fix, enable wined3d and software vertex processing.
>HELP! Required Windows 11 update broke things!
winkey+R -> ms-settings:developers -> Terminal=Windows Console Host

Previous Thread:
>>>/vg/445943839

>> No.22540959

>>22540940
>original poster saged the thread
>retard reposts to bump
hmmmm

>> No.22541273

>>22497608
Just another cult of the personality.
No discord servers are worth the drama.

>> No.22542189

>>22496372
You should offer semi-pro rates at least. You're basically just stealing people's work for no reason.

>> No.22542754

>>22531310
Is the best of ever actually coming out?

>> No.22543006

>>22542754
It is, yeah. My only real desire is to release it when I'm happy with it. The stories are all out there already, so if I don't put them together in a way that properly serves them (i.e. if I don't make it "good"), then it's pointless. I know that's probably not a satisfying answer, and I understand that any and all hype is absent, but I only care about the posterity of this thing and not whether a bunch of anons sing a chorus the day I finally put it out.

My original assumption (last fall) had been that the hiatus would continue and &amp would be definitively defunct by the time I released it, so that the best-of would simply be a testament to the presence of good writers scattered among the milieu of /lit/. (You could call that the legacy of &amp, though I really see it as being about the writings themselves; perhaps I'll also say it's about the possibility of good writers on /lit/.) That was of course a somewhat shortsighted and presumptuous vision, but posterity is still my ambition for the thing. There are all these good and interesting writings lodged in the backlog of &amp, but they're surrounded by chaff, and I wanted a way to elevate them into something that people might bother to read from front to back. In the 14 issues of &amp considered, it's hard to imagine someone excited enough to read through all of them (all of the crap), so these stories end up obscured by their context. I want to make them less obscure, even if only slightly.

Right now the best-of is in a state where if I trimmed a few pages and dropped in a table of contents, someone might call it finished. I wouldn't be happy with that, though. Call that pride or shit on me for it, but that's how I'm treating it, and if in the end someone thinks it was pointless or lacklustre then it's on account of me. This thing is not the cumulative effort of 12 months of constant work and toil, but the work I have put into it has been sincere.

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>>22543006
Lemme throw in that I also have fun working on this thing. It's a pain in the ass sometimes, but I do like it. I wouldn't have sunk so much time into the best-of if it weren't for that, even if I can spin up a long, high-minded rationale for it.

>> No.22543144

>>22543006
What are your thoughts on the current state of &amp?

>> No.22543263

>>22543006
>>22543144
Also interested to hear your thoughts. How do the best of stories compare to those in 15>18

>> No.22543299

>>22543144
It's not my kind of scene anymore. When it came back I started to realise that I just wasn't interested any longer, but that's in part a personal thing.

>>22543263
I've hardly read any of the new material, and nothing I remember strongly. I'm sure there are good pieces in the issues, and plenty that suck, but part of my point up above is that these things are just a representation of the people who submit, while &amp itself simply collects it all. The writing in the best-of was also assembled based on survey and consensus, so I won't claim superiority of opinion here.

One of the nice things about the best-of is that it put me in touch with a lot of the contributors. For a bit I had access to the &amp editor's email, which advanced contacts, but there were also people who reached out last fall of their own volition. Connecting the writing to people may be why I feel a lot stronger about the writers and not the magazine at this point.

>> No.22543439

>>22543299
By a personal thing I'm gonna guess you mean the issue with Atlas and your falling out with Editor. I have to say that I originally had a lot of esteem for you after the work you did organizing the best of last year. But after what came out a few months ago I lost all respect for you and I'd guess that a lot of other &amp writers feel the same way. I'm not usually one to give my take on e-drama shit but I hope you'll take what I'm saying here to heart. Those Discord screencaps were absolutely shameful. Do better.

>> No.22543512

>>22543299
>good pieces in the issues
Adonis was nice.

>> No.22543585

>>22543299
>>22543512
No Adonis from &amp16 was based, same with Mixtape Hyperborea. &amp17 was kino as well, that MNMDR article was great. Those two issues are worth reading but 18 could likely be skipped

>> No.22543603

>>22543512
>>22543585
There definitely seem to have been a few stand-outs from the last few issues, at least based on the discussions. I remember "Husky Mutt Puppy" being praised. Previously I'd entertained the idea of doing a best-of as a regular thing, but, apart from being uninterested, I also just don't have the time or the pace. Doesn't have to be me who does that anyway.

>>22543439
I was being stalked by Atlas. Whatever you read, I was frustrated with someone who had been stalking me for months at that point. Atlas and I attended the same university during that time, so you can imagine I was both angry and terrified, and tried to make light of the situation. I won't pretend I was kind, but whatever I said was done assuming that it would not be read by Atlas or anyone who knows Atlas. The stalking was a matter I had to make multiple visits and calls to the police over, leading to myriad warnings and a report, and which included harassment by Atlas that spanned the greater part of the last year. The "falling out" with the editor was on account of him recruiting Atlas (namely giving Atlas access to his email) after I had informed him about the stalking and harassment; I was never involved in anything but the best-of anyway, and he was never involved in the best-of, so I told him to leave me be.

Again, I don't suggest that you should see me as kind, but you should genuinely reconsider your attempt to shame me over it while having only a vague and one-sided account of what happened. From the winter until this summer I hadn't posted on /lit/ or taken part in any of the threads that you surely ate up in the spring, whether you want to believe that or not.

>> No.22543640

>>22543299
Don’t take these people’s shit to heart, Ari. I appreciate that you’re putting so much work and care into this, not plopping it out in a half finished state like so many of these projects tend to end in.
You have a very dedicated group of people who need to tear you down in order to prop themselves up. You need to be the biggest piece of shit in the world because they need to justify what they did to you. I see it. Plenty of people see it. We might not have a Discord dedicated to pushing that narrative at every opportunity, but know that there are people who see through what they’re saying about you. Finish the best-of at your own pace. Make it to your standards. Don’t let these losers get to you.

>> No.22544241

>>22543603
I won't deny that Atlas did you wrong, but calling her a stalker isn't some trump card that's gonna make me see your actions as fair. Sure, I can get how you would've felt uncomfortable and stressed out, but it seems clear that she was doing it all out of some kind of misguided love and didn't have ill intentions. Way back in the May Tales One thread where all this first started she said that she never approached you at your university, just that you crossed paths once when she had a class and then you tried to intimidate her over it, so unless you can prove otherwise I dunno why you think that mentioning that part makes you look any better. You've said nothing here that makes me think you were really in harm's way and needed law enforcement. It all comes off like you trying to justify your own overreaction. And from the many hysterical posts that she made talking about how you agreed to a conversation and then called the police on her instead, you come off looking really bad. If you really did that shit then I kind of get why she lost it.

The spring threads made it plain that Atlas was in distress and out of her mind with heartbreak. I didn't see a malicious person there, I saw a hurt, frightened shell of a girl who was mentally unwell and desperate. In the end I just pity her and hope she's been getting proper help. On the other hand, you come off as a callous, bitter individual so I can't say I have much sympathy for you. The way that you spoke about her was downright ugly and says a lot about your character. There are times in life when you need to man up, be the bigger person and put your anger aside, so maybe you should genuinely reconsider your decision to double down and act defensive. You should probably stop taking part in these threads until you finish the best of.

>>22543640
I'm not here to tear down the best of or push any narrative. I hope the thing gets finished so the e-drama can die for good. It was wrong of Unreal to dox anyone so I'm never gonna defend that. Just saying that I personally lost a lot of respect for Ari after how things were handled, and this defensiveness makes me respect him even less.

>> No.22544273

>>22544241
It couldn't be any more obvious that this is Atlas. Please stop giving yourself the most charitable interpretation of your schizophrenia.

>> No.22544408

>>22544273
Lmao maybe but atlas’s old rants about ari were way more vitriolic and unhinged than this. I bet its some troon from the &amp discord simping for her in hopes of getting his story a prime spot in 19. Could even be editornigger himself whiteknighting again, the guy has thrown ari under the bus in other threads before

>> No.22544613

>>22544408
Nah, that is 100% Atlas. I can tell. She's trying to set up a narrative of Ari being an abuser when, at least form what I've seen, he did literally nothing wrong. The worst I've seen is that he was upset about being doxed and having his family's faces posted around 4chan and that he called a wellness check on Atlas, who at the time was completely unhinged and probably threatening suicide.
This whole thing has been completely blown out of proportion by a combination of Unreal desperately trying to justify Rhyme's doxing spree and Atlas' newfound victim complex.

>> No.22544750

>>22544613
>his family's faces posted around 4chan
I never saw that, and I'm pretty sure it didn't happen. Or at least I don't have any reason to believe it.

The doxxing was obviously lame, but Atlas was orders of magnitude worse. There were days where I was receiving upwards of a hundred calls a day, with various numbers, along with endless rambling texts. The voicemails that would somehow make it through my block filter were worthy of a horror movie. There was a point where she threatened to show up at my workplace, after gloating that she found me on their website before I had my picture taken down. She was posting to /lit/ and /adv/, conversing with total strangers, and thinking they were me (which would then spill into new tirades with new numbers, and etc.). The one good thing is that I moved cities during this period, but I was still going out of my mind over it, and had a paranoid suspicion that she had figured out my new address.

>> No.22544771

>>22544750
>I never saw that, and I'm pretty sure it didn't happen.
That part was something I heard someone in these threads say. Can't confirm it myself so may be made up.
The Atlas shit sounds crazy though. I know you're done with these weirdos and their drama but It's the type of thing I'd kill for a full write-up on.

>> No.22545097

>>22544750
Are you writing any novels bro?

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>>22544750
Hello Ari, just stopping by because I’ve not seen you for a long while, I hope all things are well.

t. Hairy (ps, you ever listen to stars by simply red or lady in red by de Burgh?)

>> No.22546111

>>22544750
please come back i miss you we can work it out. maybe write up an article or two?
t. ryan

>> No.22546119

>>22544750
ffs I can't believe you had to go through all of that! I'm absolutely appalled by the behavior your describing, and I want to extend my sincerest apologies that you had to endure such a traumatic experience. It's clear from your post that you've been through a tremendous ordeal, and it's beyond comprehension how someone could behave in such a despicable manner its unfathomable that Carpathia could stoop to such depths, engaging in doxxing and tormenting you with relentless calls, texts, and voicemails. Your strength and resilience in the face of such a horrific situation are truly admirable. I'm deeply sorry that you had to experience this nightmare, and I'm sending you all the positive thoughts and support in the world youve always been a person of incredible character and grace, and I'm truly sorry that you had to endure such a trying time. Your courage in sharing this story is an inspiration to us all, and I hope that by speaking out, you can help prevent others from facing a similar ordeal. Thank you for being brave enough to share your experience with us.

>> No.22546138

Wonderful thread. No one talked about the stories at all.
I’m reminded of Mike Stoklasa’s buffet analogy.

>> No.22546147

why does this guy keep saying no ones talking about the stories
they obviously are
just read the thread
you wanted them only to talk about the stories? are you stupid? you bene in a /lit/ thread before?

>> No.22546168

>>22546147
>20/300 posts people talking about the stories
>280/300 post talking about drama and why they were right to dox this person and that person

>> No.22546186

>talk about the stoooooriiiiiieeeeeeessssssss!
Kys