Camp of the Saints

[Anonymous No.22492227]

This will soon be regarded as one of the most important novels of the 20th century. I'm surprised Raspail captured the essence of white racial suicide right as the process was beginning. He was wrong on the timeframe, it's more stretched out than in the novel, but it's pretty much playing out exactly like depicted.

>Latin American liberation theologist pope pushing for illegal immigration
>Churches advocating for white displacement
>The process repeating in every white country
>those who dare try to stop it are disparaged as irreprehensible racists

The fact it isn't considered a prophetic dystopia shows how left wing and deluded academia as a whole is. Humanities' departments everywhere are full of Byzantines debating how many angels dance on the head of the pin, all the while the walls of Constantinople are being shredded apart by canons outside. Everything Europeans care about will simply be swept aside, there will be no rejuvenation coming from these migrants/conquerors. What could they possibly care to learn from a race that has long since lost its way?

[Anonymous No.22492232]

what stupid rightoids dont understand is that white westerners are the beneficiaries of an ongoing system of mass racial slavery exceeding in scale anything dreamt of even in ancient athens or the old american south. the only reason the white man today enjoys his princely bourgeois existence is the army of coloured slaves from places like india & china who toil away to provide him with cheap exported goods, as well as the vast disfigured hordes of east euros, latinos, pakistanis and black immigrants who build his houses, staff his factories, work on his farms, act as his grovelling servants. as long as the white man is happy to leech and suck the blood of other nations, as long as white global dominance is enforced through psyops and rifles by 3-letter agencies, so long will white culture degrade and die. and rightoid coping about "muh iq" or "muh jews" wont change htis

[Anonymous No.22492279]

>>22492232
The green-card Indians and the cognitive migrants we braindrain from the third world earn around double the average white income, and there's no noticeable fiscal benefit to the hoards of migrants currently pouring across Europe's shores.

The fact some whites benefit in the short term doesn't mean it isn't manifest suicide. Some rich South African whites were probably happy in the first two decades following apartheid because they could not be seen as pariahs when travelling internationally.

[Anonymous No.22492305]

>>22492227
>He was wrong on the timeframe, it's more stretched out than in the novel, but it's pretty much playing out exactly like depicted.
They're indians in the novel but africans in real life

[Anonymous No.22492351]

>>22492305
Oh right, he missed the fact that it would be a black wave initially. The other major thing he missed was that Maoist era China would develop, the idea of them flooding into Russia now as refugees is absurd.

In the novel the focus more shifts to black invaders as it goes on.

[Anonymous No.22492637]

>>22492227
I always say Americans talking about this book, commenting "The Camp Of The Saints" everywhere, but I literally can't find it to buy here in Ireland. Only the French version. Is it easy to buy a physical copy in the States or do you just read it online?

[Anonymous No.22493168]

>>22492227
bro I came up to this book through some anons in a pol thread a few days before the riots in France. I was just scouring for nothing on /pol/, a board I rarely enter. I got weirdly obsessed with the book and Raspail, read a bunch of reviews and interviews and the first chapter of the book - chills every fucking page - until the riots started happening and the book became more relevant than ever. I still didn't read past the 1st chapter as I'm finishing my other reads first, since this is a special one.
To understand this fucking suicide cult among the White races I guess I can just recommend reading Spengler - his work's little prestige in academia also reveals that, in the current state of our civilization, it is just a mutual masturbation club

[Anonymous No.22493582]

>>22493168
The white race isn't committing suicide in the same sense that a rational man might if he felt there was no hope. It has been slowly undermined by jewish influence for hundreds of years, from both the upper classes and lower simultaneously. It's host to a very nasty parasite.

[Anonymous No.22493760]

>>22493582
Utterly retarded. The white middle/upper classes are importing migrants to use them as cheap slave labour. It’s mainly the white working class who disapprove of migration because they compete with the migrants for slave positions. But even these benefit from it ultimately because it’s the migrants who work in the worst jobs, leaving the westerners to the comfier ones. I’ve worked in construction in the UK and it’s almost always the case that the most gruelling jobs are stacked with Polish or other migrant workers, whereas the sites with English ones are better paid with less psychological pressure from the managers and easier working times. Jews are almost always bourgeois capitalists so they have an incentive to import these people, but don’t act like the white middle/upper classes aren’t also fully behind it. They live in gated communities (sometimes with literal gates on them) and they don’t give a single shit about crime or ethnic replacement because they’re not affected by crime and their only loyalty is to money not to some ideal of race. You are a totally brainwashed ideologue so you think the white race is inherently angelic and all of its problems must be created by some outside force. It’s really quite a pathetic, obviously false, quasi-religious stance.

[Anonymous No.22493783]

>>22492227
Denmark has stopped it. Why can't other whiteys do the same?

[Anonymous No.22494105]

>>22492637
It's hard to find anyone who has the balls to print it. This would fall under the category of "banned books", but they wouldn't want anyone to actually advertise that so they don't talk about it.
So, the only way to really get it is to spend thousands of dollars while the guy selling you it gets your information or get the PDF.
You can grab it on archive, however, because they don't care about banned books. Although, be quick though, they have been banning books on archive.org for awhile now.

[Anonymous No.22494130]

>>22493760
>The white middle/upper classes are importing migrants to use them as cheap slave labour.
Cool, but this is a superficial grasp of what is happening.
>You are a totally brainwashed ideologue so you think the white race is inherently angelic
No one is saying this. You're just jumping to conclusion and making the classic anti-White interpretation to push your goals. It's the same as pointing at some poor disfigured white kid and saying "behold, the master race" -- Cool, you cherry picked and are bullying someone for the way that look. You're definitely the good guys!
Well, unfortunately for you, the reality of what the so-called "White racist" believes is much kinder. Plenty of other Whites are seeing past your bullshit lies and are understanding this. Your entire point of contention with capitalism should be the ususry, but you don't really mind capitalism as long as it helps the people you're rooting for because you're just a scumbag trying to eliminate racial unity by creating more class division.

[Anonymous No.22494179]

>>22493783
Source ?

[Anonymous No.22494391]

>>22492232
wtf,most migrants in europe dont do any of these things they just leech of benefits and do nothing productive since they can fucking integrate and end up just raping or killing children at worst and at best raping actual adult.

[Anonymous No.22494421]

>>22494391
cant*

[Anonymous No.22494454]

>>22492227
Iirc the timeframe being wrong is on purpose, it’s a reference to theater rules or some shit

[Anonymous No.22494455]

>>22492227
see also - rising tide of color
http://www.google.com/search?q=rising+tide+of+color

[Anonymous No.22494495]

>>22492227
If whites are going extinct and don't do anything to stop it then preserving white people would be unnatural

[Anonymous No.22494502]

>>22492232
>east euros, latinos, pakistanis and black immigrants who build his houses
Lol pakis, nigs et al don't do any of these. It's usually underpaid white proles doing it, at most you get 50% whites and 50% hispanics
You are also not refuting OP in any way, but merely saying that whites deserve it (I agree but for different reasons)

[Anonymous No.22494505]

>>22493760
>white middle/upper classes are importing migrants to use them as cheap slave labour.
Kind of. Billionaires do that. Mid/upper class whites do it for social virtue points, and are often pummeled by said migrants (as they should)

[Anonymous No.22494599]

There is only one antidote to this jewery. It's called a Traditional Catholic Reconquista. Pray the rosary every day and convert to Traditional Catholicism. Rejecr the novus ordo and reject vatican II. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxZoc_JhQtw

[Anonymous No.22494612]

>>22494599
And not just for Europe but for America as well.
>>>/wsg/5263028
>>>/wsg/5263623
Ave Christus Rex et Ave Maria.

[Anonymous No.22494645]

>>22494599
>>22494612
Based. Christ is king. This is a holy war. We are on the right side of History, and we are going to win.

[Anonymous No.22494729]

>>22494599
LARPy boy there's likely more people going to church in a big city in Nigeria every sunday than in the entirety of Europe especially below the age of 80 what the fuck kind of plant are you high on?

[Anonymous No.22494749]

>>22494729
He's a spic, he spams other threads and boards with his cristtardery

[Anonymous No.22495057]

>>22494729
The one true faith is for everyone regardless of skin color or nation. We invite all people's to become Traditional Catholics. They should just stay in their own nations and evangelize their own people and uplift their own nations.

[Anonymous No.22495443]

>>22492232
Now this is cringeposting

[Anonymous No.22495743]

>>22494599
>>22494612
>>22494645
anti-semites worshiping a dead rabbi as master of the universe will never not be funny

[Anonymous No.22496002]

OP here

Has anyone in this thread actually read the novel or am I the only one? If you read it you'll find out that it's not really about the invaders themselves, the focus is on the Europeans who let themselves get invaded.

[Anonymous No.22496056]

>>22496002
I read a small portion of it back in 2016. I found the character listening to mozart as he watched the first boat land somewhat cringe, but the descriptive language he used to describe the Indian horde was quite artistically valid iirc. I might go back and read it properly soon but part of me doesn't want to.
I already know where this civilization is headed and have for some time. What need do I have for yet another depressing reminder?

[Anonymous No.22496061]

White identity is European genocide

[Anonymous No.22496235]

>>22496002
yeah
its just another take on the immigrant boogeyman
first they're external invading threats, then existential cultural threats, then they're financial burdens stealing our jobs etc etc
its a banger if you're firmly in the grasp of the moral panic grift but its just boring if you can see through the bullshit

[Anonymous No.22496247]

>>22496002
I actually read it like 2 or 3 years ago!
It is written quite well but I feel like it is wasted on the subject matter.
The only part that sticks with me is there is description of an image with a white man and black man playing chess and the white man says "I get the black ones and you get the white ones, just like our women". That makes me chuckle.

[Anonymous No.22496249]

>>22492227
where can i get a copy that isn't $200 used

are there any based publishers left since mystery grove's suicide

[Anonymous No.22496288]

>>22496249
>mystery grove's suicide
is that true? what happened? just not making enough money to keep the doors open or something?

[Anonymous No.22496302]

The things you care about are moral panic culture war grifts, but the things I care about are real politics.

[Anonymous No.22496569]

>>22496002
I thought the art of the Russian soldier in Siberia was sad.

[bodhi No.22496784]

>>22492227
damn I was just thinking about making a thread about this book. I am listening to an audio version on telegram
https://t.me/s/CIG_telegram/330

[Anonymous No.22496791]

>>22493760
>retard noises

[Anonymous No.22496817]

>>22492232
>only reason the white man today enjoys his princely bourgeois existence is the army of coloured slaves from places like india
yah right, the only reason darkoids dont still live in mud huts is because of the princely white man. Every single creature comfort you have in this life is because of white men and without them your society would devolve back into the mud guts, 30 year life span and 50% infant mortality rate you were in when they found you. Slaves? If it has been the white man's inventions that freed this entire world from their substance existence. You are a delusional moron which is expected of course from darkoids because you are too stupid to not bite the hand that feeds you

[Anonymous No.22496821]

>>22492232
>You are a delusional moron which is expected of course from darkoids because you are too stupid to not bite the hand that feeds you
Quite literally

[Anonymous No.22496845]

>>22492232
It was le ebil white westerners and that "slave labor" done for the "the leeching white man" that lifted China out of a third world shit hole to a world super power. You extremely retarded and clueless and just a dysgenic and envious spiteful mutant

[Anonymous No.22496859]

>>22492232

[Anonymous No.22497088]

>>22494130
>No one is saying this.
gaslighting liar they're literally doing it in this thread let alone the rest of the board and site. it's not cherrypicking to call it out as the dominant ideology here. the other anon is right I see it everyday in the Midwest

[Anonymous No.22497107]

>>22492232
Incel tantrum to explain away his external locus of control thinking.

Get some therapy instead of being mad online.

[Anonymous No.22497112]

>>22496235
>immigrant boogeyman
The boogeyman isn't real, Jamal raping your daughter is.

[Anonymous No.22497120]

>>22496817
Technically that book isn't about inventions. It's about number of citations after 1400 or 1500 ce

[Anonymous No.22497160]

>>22497120
stfu with your technicality,africans werent doing anything meaningful before white people got there but you are welcomed to prove me wrong.
>name 3 great african philosophers
>name 3 great african painters
>name 3 great african musicians
>name 3 great african writers
>name 3 great african scientists
>name 3 great african mathematicians

[Anonymous No.22497177]

>>22492232
Lmfao. Estonia Iceland Ireland were all colonies. They are now very rich. Richer than their former masters sometimes, with no resources to speak of. The average middle eastern or african migrant to Europe is a net drain per The Economist's analysis, a liberal paper. White people simply make prosperous socities. There are at this moment 100s of millions of Africans that will starve in months if not for food aid provided predominatly by white people.

[Anonymous No.22497190]

>>22497160
Literally black people that can read and write and speak in unbroken sentences are taken as examples of potential African genius. Almost every black "intellectual" is just a black studies retard and whites often know more about what they are talking about than they do. My apologies to the few Nigcel productive stem engineers etc reading this.

[Anonymous No.22497311]

>>22497160
but you are not amenable to being proven anything, your mind is made up. you just want to fling shit at whatever names are listed no matter their integrity. you are just indicting your ignorance

[Anonymous No.22497316]

>>22497190
Even Thomas Sowell, possibly the only black intellectual that exists in the US, was just a human centipede for Milton Friedman, and didn't have any original ideas. IQ possibly as low as 130, though that's 170+ adjusted for a niqqa

[Anonymous No.22497320]

>>22496288
He closed account and handed his plates to a 'trusted party'

[Anonymous No.22497324]

>>22492227
>He was wrong on the timeframe
He adress that in his 2011 preface, "big other", arguing the point was to provide an allegory of the phenomenom, rather than a realistic scenario. Maybe he was just retconning, but given how allegoric his other novels can be (seven riders, for instance), it seems believable to me.

[Anonymous No.22497359]

>In the FUTURE... there will be more NON-WHITES!!!!!!!!!!!

woah...... this guy was blessed... what a prophet...

[Anonymous No.22497363]

>>22497311
my mind isnt unchangeable,i was just never exposed to anything great that came from africa.

[Anonymous No.22498057]

>>22497160
That... doesn't disprove me? Or the book? Nigs are nowhere to be found indeed, but the most important inventions such as math, science, art, music, engineering, transportation etc etc were already invented well before 0 CE and all by meds and menas. Yet there are barely any citations on those things, naturally

[Anonymous No.22498068]

>>22497320
passage prize bought him out. they'll announce in a few days and publishings should resume in the coming months

[Anonymous No.22498083]

>>22497177
>White people simply make prosperous socities
White people simply make prosperous societies then invite immigrants to crash them. It's a repeating pattern

[Anonymous No.22498828]

>cardinal announcers shitting on suarez
>1 less era than their starter
>9 pitch inning

[Anonymous No.22498886]

>>22497088
>they're literally doing it in this thread let alone the rest of the board and site
Who? Where? Engage their arguments then. Oh you cant because you are an idiot that just makes shit up to suit your narrative

[Anonymous No.22498895]

>>22497160
That's a eurocentric metric. Africa's arts like storytelling and wisdom was oral.

[Anonymous No.22498902]

>>22497311
so you can't? we all already knew this

[Anonymous No.22498907]

>>22494391
Thats not true. Who do you think delivers food, drives taxis and cleans the fucking toilets? The apus, ahmeds and pajeets

[Anonymous No.22498908]

>>22497311
spoiler: no one can

[Anonymous No.22498921]

>>22498907
Oh no how can society survive without these, who were done by natives before anyway and migrants only serve to stagnate wages

[Anonymous No.22499090]

>>22493783
Yes Denmark did. But it was the liberals in Denmark that did it. Which is crucial. If you want to win you need to bypass what Kevin MacDonald calls "the psychological mechanisms of white dispossession" (https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/03/24/psychological-mechanisms-of-white-dispossession/).). Jews have used control of mass media and entertainment to make white ethnocentrism (and only white ethnocentrism) morally repugnant to whites (https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/01/14/modify-the-standards-of-the-in-group-on-jews-and-mass-communications-part-one-of-two/).). So advancing white interests requires people to TALK like a liberal but ACT like a nationalist.

Most of the time these fascist and racist types are too nasty for most ordinary people to stomach. Even though most people know that mass displacement level migration of non-whites is wrong, they don't want to feel like bad people by associating with nasty people. Which is why you trick people by talking like a "decent liberal" but acting like a nationalist. The liberals in Denmark are a good instance of this. The mainstream media had a hard time trashing them. Too many nationalists are needlessly nasty towards LGBT people, women, and migrants in a way that undermines their chances of appealing to a wider electorate.

[Anonymous No.22499285]

>>22492227
Camp of the Saints
The Great Replacement
Submission by Houellebecq

Any other require readings in this vein?

[Anonymous No.22499439]

>>22498907
what year? I am pretty sure all those things got done in white countries for 1000's of years without non-whites. I am open to being proven wrong however

[Anonymous No.22499541]

>>22499285
Is The Great Replacement by Camus? Otherwise I would recommend You Will Not Replace Us! by Camus

[Anonymous No.22499763]

>>22499285
"The fate of empires" by John Glubb

[Anonymous No.22499972]

>>22492227
Le book. It's so prescient it creeps you out from beginning to end, and Raspail's writing is something else (I've read a French edition).

[Anonymous No.22500057]

>>22499285
"If we do nothing" by Jared Taylor
"The Strange Death of Europe" by Douglas Murray

[Anonymous No.22500064]

>>22492227
>This will soon be regarded as one of the most important novels of the 20th century
Pretty crazy how fast is happening now, kinda of got everything right

[Anonymous No.22500078]

>>22497324
The whole thing was apparently just based on a feeling he had looking at the Mediterranean sea and thinking "what if they come here?". He apparently just sat down and started writing, he never really had an end in mind until he got to it.

>>22499090
I don't really agree with Kevin Macdonald about the jews. At worst, the jews are like the scorpion in the scorpion and the frog, because they're sacrificing the one population that won't just ethnically cleanse them. The Arab chud states quite effortlessly threw out all their jews, and the chinese laugh off any attempt at racial grievance. Even blacks are pretty openly vicious with their anti-semitism.

Plus jews intermarry with the goyim at a rate of 50% in western countries, and have a worse birthrate than whites. The Israeli jews and American jews have pretty much splintered off entirely, to the point where Israeli chuds have to appeal to retarded evangelical Christians instead. If it really was some gay-op they were performing on the goyim, they've hoisted themselves on the same bayonet. Plus it's the secular liberal jews that are most heavily pushing the poison who are most liable to intermix, they're drinking their own kool-aid.

Kevin Macdonald doesn't really have any responses to this obvious fact beyond "y-yeah, well, it just doesn't matter okay?".

[Anonymous No.22500080]

>>22492232
All negro countries live on western welfare, their great wakanda(Rwanda) is far worst than Paraguay which is the poorest south american country despite all of the aid Rwanda gets, if anything is whites who have been enslaved to feed the biomass of the global south

[Anonymous No.22500087]

>>22493760
The last poll they did on UK 86% of the people said the immigration was too high, and all the times they made this pool the majority voted for less migrants going as far as 4 decades ago. It's no the people who are importing them, the people voted for Meloni to stop it and she increased by 400%

[Anonymous No.22500158]

>>22492305
Pajeets are definitely invading all English-speaking countries.

[Anonymous No.22501028]

>>22500078
What "obvious fact?" No one ever said every single Jew was involved in the subversive tactics employed by the giga jews and jewry as an entity. This is like saying the Italian mafia doesnt exist because every single Italian isnt a gangster. Your post is like something from the mind of a child. Why would Kevin M need to respond to a such a stupid assertion?

[Anonymous No.22501127]

>>22492232
sure but "inb4 jews" is 100% cope invalid defense, because it is literally jews who enacted every single thing that you typed out

[Anonymous No.22501129]

>>22493760
deluded, there aren't infinite comfy jobs retard

[Anonymous No.22501134]

>>22501028
good post

[Anonymous No.22501726]

>>22501028
Have you even read Kevin MacDonald's thesis? He established this jewish strategy as some epic gay-op where jews will be ruling over retarded goyim, and goes into explicit detail about how they'll proliferate like cockroaches and replace whites in America as a demographic strength in the coming years. This book was written over 20 years ago, and the American jewish birthrate remains in the gutter and they're still intermixing with whites at a demographic death spiral rate.

I'm willing to concede it's some subversive instinct they have where they can't help but muddle and mix societies by acting as cultural agents, again, like the scorpion and the frog. But it isn't working out for them, in Europe the new Muslim migrants are enjoying terrorizing the jews.

The only jews that have above replacement fertility are the ultra-orthodox in Israel, or as they are called by Israeli jews, orthodogs. Because they're parasitic NEETs that behave like niggers and leech off their own people.

Jews in the west have lived a coddled and safe existence since the 1940s. Them mixing societies amounts to them shitting in their own house and inviting pitbulls in to live with them.

[Anonymous No.22502416]

>>22501726
No that isn't the actual thesis. The thesis is merely that Judaism provides the blueprint for a group evolutionary strategy (see Chapter 3 of A People that Shall Dwell Alone, Evolutionary Aspects of the Tanakh). Such a strategy may or may not be successful. Or successful only under certain conditions. Etc.

"The perspective adopted here is thus non-deterministic. Within this framework, historical analysis focuses on the origin and maintenance of Judaism as an evolutionary ideology and as characterized by a particular set of internal social controls on the behavior of Jews, but with no implication that Judaism is in some sense ecologically or genetically determined or that it is necessarily adaptive for Jews at any stage of their history. Because of the indeterminacy of social controls and ideology, these contextual variables can be influenced by such historical events as the outcome of military engagements, which are themselves theoretically underdetermined (e.g., the successful conquest of Canaan after the Exodus—surely a necessary condition for the development of Judaism) or the outcome of particular historical events such as the Egyptian sojourn, recounted in Genesis and Exodus."

As for demographic suicide, basically every people that is using contraceptives and abortions (Japanese, Europeans, Jews, Iranians, etc.) is killing themselves off.

This doesn't belie the basic fact that organized Jewry constitutes a distinct national body within the host society and uses its wealth and power and influence to advance what they see as their national interest at the expense of the host population. This is the problem with the Jews. It is honestly shocking the extent to which people will go to avoid a rational, fact based discussion of the topic.

Nobody disputes that the organized Russian community works to advance the interests of the Russian people. But because the Russian people are confined to a particular territory and have a particular government, this activity looks conventional enough. The Jews do the same thing, only they have traditionally lacked a territory and a government. And so people are foolish enough to think that (in consequence) they have given up their national identity and interests and joined as one people with the host body. But that is Bullshit. They never assimilate, and, as a national body, they always constitute a hostile and alien (and unfortunately powerful and influential) presence in the host country.

[Anonymous No.22502513]

>>22502416
I recall the final chapters of Culture of Critique where he predicts a massive resurgence in the Jewish population as they acquire more resources and whites become weaker. I haven't read "A People that Shall Dwell Alone", just the final entry in the series where he basically endorses nazism as a counter strategy. MacDonald's views changed the more he wrote on the topic, and he slowly became more /pol/.

>They never assimilate, and, as a national body, they always constitute a hostile and alien (and unfortunately powerful and influential) presence in the host country.

50% intermarriage rate, being higher than 60% for the secular jews that wield the power, showcases assimilation. You have to go into poor shithole Hasidic jewish territories to find ones that keep themselves pure, and the hasidic jews don't wield cultural power. Jews in the west are dying faster than whites demographically, and their culture is just becoming quirky and seen the same way 1/4 Irish burgers celebrate Saint Patrick's Day. Orthodox jews bemoan this, but can do little to counter it.

Kevin MacDonald makes assertions that half jews are thrown off from the tribe and don't in the future contribute to jewish power. if that's true, then jews are literally shredding off 50% of their population every generation. But I disagree, these same half jews seem to remain highly influential generation to generation and remain in the upper class.

An Episcopalian church probably has as many harmful liberals as your average synagogue. But I agree with you that Jews are their own thing and have disproportionately harmed the white race, more per capita than any other group by a wide margin. But even western countries with minimal jewish influence, like the Scandinavian countries, Italy and the Netherlands, are following suicidal racial polciies. They're a contributing factor, but in my opinion not the cause. We did this to ourselves.

[Anonymous No.22502533]

>>22492232
The outright delusional babbling of leftists never ceases to amaze me.
I am actually, unironically supporting a mandatory year of developmental aid work for everyone so people could actually see why African societies are so deep in the shitter.

Spoiler:
It's not because of white people.

[Anonymous No.22502577]

>>22501726
>>22502416
>>22502513


he provides a rather compelling argument that jewish involvement essentially undermined if not completely destroyed the then-popular darwinistic understanding of the social sciences and replaced it with unfalsifiable nonsense about racial equality and oppression. there are lots of references and examples, and at face value it's a very coherent and well-made argument. you'd be hard pressed to call him wrong.

[Anonymous No.22502581]

>>22502513
I'm not sure about Jewish intermarriage rate. That would definitely indicate a failure of the group strategy. Perhaps because post-Holocaust, there was insufficient pressure to keep Jews from defecting. Not sure. There was some debate on this topic on Occidental Observer with regards to the Nathan Cofnas debate. But I can't remember.

As for whites. Yeah there is no doubt that whites do an incredible amount of damage to their own societies. So many of the academics and journalists pushing for the Great Replacement are whites. I remember one guy, an academic at Duke, who predicted that 40% of Europe's population would be black by 2075. I don't think this number is accurate, and neither do other experts in the field. But he said that the prospect of this many Africans in Europe doesn't cause him to lose any sleep. And I was stunned. There is just no talking to people like that .... He basically isn't losing any sleep at the prospect of Europe becoming a third world hell hole.

Or read anything by the people at Oxford demographics. Sick, sick people that want to remake Europe into an African shanty town. All of them white British.

[Anonymous No.22502587]

>>22502577
>you'd be hard pressed to call him wrong.

and so they don't, i should add. instead he's an "anti-semite".

[Anonymous No.22502621]

>>22502587
>>22502577
>he provides a rather compelling argument that jewish involvement essentially undermined if not completely destroyed the then-popular darwinistic understanding of the social sciences and replaced it with unfalsifiable nonsense about racial equality and oppression. there are lots of references and examples, and at face value it's a very coherent and well-made argument. you'd be hard pressed to call him wrong.

really he could have written an entire book using several chapters from CoC without even mentioning jews, leaving it up to the reader to recognize that literally his entire bibliography was written by jews

[Anonymous No.22502630]

>>22502581
The jewish intermarriage rate is indeed that high, the jews themselves call it the "silent holocaust". Plus the experience of Israeli jews and American jews have diverged a lot since the Reagan era. American jews no longer really support the State of Israel that much and just think of it as some chud state. Part of what MacDonald asserted was that these two groups are in lockstep, but they aren't. Even the most unscrupolous and damaging jews like Tim Wise throw shots at Israel for being an apartheid state. Although that said, there are some faggot jews that have a double standard for Israel, like the ADL.

>Yeah there is no doubt that whites do an incredible amount of damage to their own societies. So many of the academics and journalists pushing for the Great Replacement are whites.

https://www.amren.com/news/2022/03/the-racial-ideology-of-empire/

Whites have struggled to express racial consciousness for a long time, and even in the Imperial period you had the liberal idealists at home wrestling with the boots on the ground whites fighting in the colonies. This has been going on for a lot longer than jewish influence. The British homeland tried to force South Africa, Canada and Australia to take Indian migrants under the excuse "we'll we're one same empire".

>The colonists did not consider themselves superior to the “naturals,” no matter how primitive. They reasoned that the ancient Britons had been savages, civilized by the Romans, and that this process would be repeated. Although the colonists considered themselves racially different from Africans and “Moors,” they thought the Indians were born white and turned dark from exposure to the sun and to skin dyes.

[Anonymous No.22502647]

>>22502621

and the funny thing would have been, he could have just called it a coincidence. and that would be it. there's be nothing to argue because that's exactly the same thing that jews say about any extensive and well-documented aggregate of negative jewish influence.

and frankly i'd even sympathize if there weren't a tremendous double standard about who can criticize whom.

[Anonymous No.22502683]

>>22502647
cont.

jews have to consider the question of whether they support the freedom of expression or not. i'm sure many of them cite it often in defense of their own work.

[Anonymous No.22502694]

>>22502630
>https://www.amren.com/news/2022/03/the-racial-ideology-of-empire/


>In the years before it became an independent commonwealth in 1901, Australia had considerable autonomy, but did not have complete control over immigration. Its leaders wanted laws to exclude Asians, but Joseph Chamberlain — the secretary of state for the colonies who was so insistent on the virtues of the “Anglo-Saxon race” — explained this was impossible. In 1897, he asked Australians to:

>. . . bear in mind the traditions of the Empire, which makes no distinction in favor of, or against race or color; and to exclude, by reason of their color or by reasons of their race, all Her Majesty’s Indian subjects or even all Asiatics would be an act so offensive to those people, that it would be most painful, I am quite certain, to Her Majesty to have to sanction it.


You can see the proto-form of these suicidal racial policies taking form already in the Victorian era. There was no jewish hand here, it was affluent whites in London who thought themselves as pish posh. This has been going on for a longer time than any whites would care to admit.

[Anonymous No.22502698]

>>22502683
>jews have to consider the question of whether they support the freedom of expression or not. i'm sure many of them cite it often in defense of their own work.

and not some warped version wherein they collectively use arguably legal means of harassment. this is the bottom line as far as i'm concerned. if a jew supports 1A both in spirit and in law then fine.

[Anonymous No.22502721]

>>22502577
He does, and I agree with him a lot on the overrating of jewish intellectual achievement in the humanities. It does seem that jews nepotistically throw their own into the spotlight and use him to become the standard framework in any emerging disciple. How much of Economics has been damaged by Marx? How many years have we wasted trying to escape the influence of Freud in Psychology and the humanities? It does seem that a lot of the theories and ideas coming from jews are gutteral and materialistic, making out humans are just a series of impulses and we react viscerally. Like we're goyim cattle if you will.

Compare Marx to Carl Menger and William Jevons, the latter being the basically unheard of originators of the Marginalist theory of value that's taught first thing in economics. The latter's achievement well outstrips the former, even though Marx wrote a shitload of bloat.

[Anonymous No.22502725]

>>22492227
>Latin American liberation theologist pope pushing for illegal immigration
Imagine having a peronist as the head of your church.

[Anonymous No.22502769]

>>22502721
>It does seem that a lot of the theories and ideas coming from jews are gutteral and materialistic

was freud's coked-out theory that gold is a psychological equivalent to literal human excrement your first clue?

again, i think the question that jews must ask is whether or not they support freedom of speech and expression.

[Anonymous No.22502787]

>>22496247
Kek yeah, and the apotheosis of the novel (before the epilogue in Switzerland) being about white women married to african negros, going into detail about breeding out the white race. I could be reading too much into this, and I've had my brain fried by being exposed to too many BBC fetishists wandering in from the sharty, but it does seem that every White Nationalist work of art ends up sexualized with the NTR fat bastard "Oh no, the big bad nigger is fucking the white woman" ending arc. I suppose it's fitting concerning the subject matter is two distinct populations clashing, and in those sorts of conflicts one side's men kill the other side's men and rape their women.

It comes across as a little cobsonesque from time to time.

[Anonymous No.22502799]

>>22492232

God, Marxists really just are that dumb. I bet you've never even read any of Capital either, you just write this basic ass shit and think it means something.

[Anonymous No.22502827]

>>22492232
The post that destroyed rightards

[Anonymous No.22502859]

>>22502769
>again, i think the question that jews must ask is whether or not they support freedom of speech and expression.
cont.

do they fully appreciate the abject hypocrisy in using 1A to defend so much work that is really in quite poor taste, but then turn around and call macdonald an anti-semite and a charlatan for publishing legitimate academic research? Or at least the first book is, I haven't read the rest though some people seem to think they're of a lower caliber.

[Anonymous No.22502913]

>>22502859
cont.

and yes, i know jews don't all act as a single group, some do this and some do that, etc. etc. i'm willing to grant that, but the net effect does not seem favorable

[Anonymous No.22502960]

>>22492637
https://odysee.com/@dolbi2020:c/The-Camp-Of-The-Saints-Ch-1-51-Text:d

[Anonymous No.22502963]

>>22502913
cont.

in other words, if macdonald's work is bunk, then i'd like to see it refuted. if so much of this other work in the social sciences that he criticizes is solid, then it should hold up under criticism. freedom of expression is fundamental, and i can respect only those jews that abide it in letter and in spirit.

[Anonymous No.22502983]

>>22492637
https://annas-archive.org/md5/7818f9d2667bbabaad2e94c8f0e1f3d8

[Anonymous No.22503281]

>GR users posting one-star ratings and reviews saying they've never even read the book