/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22488872]

The Beat Generation is the worst literary movement in American history. Every member had godawful prose.
Also, Burroughs murdered his wife and all his Beat buddies helped cover it up with zero consequences. Then whined about their drug addictions and couldn't hold themselves accountable.
How fitting that artistic "elites" prop them up.

[Anonymous No.22488882]

>>22488872
>How fitting that artistic "elites" prop them up.
it wouldn't even be so bad if every entry into the domain had to be on the crest of stupidity and entitlement

[Anonymous No.22488886]

>>22488882
didn't have to be*

[Anonymous No.22488982]

I give a fuck if he murdered his wife, he could've murdered his whole family and I would still be forcing women to read Naked Lunch

[Anonymous No.22489030]

>>22488872
Murdering your wife is an alpha move

[Anonymous No.22489237]

>>22488872
I enjoy the books of the beat movement, but the authors were generally lowlifes who should not be idolized or imitated. Kerouac included. I say this as somebody who read On the Road religiously as a teen. It is not a lifestyle to be desired, it is impossible to mimic in today's world, and trying to will just leave you sad and broken.

[Anonymous No.22489275]

>>22488872
Burroughs and Bukowski and Fante are acceptable, the rest are industry plants.

[Anonymous No.22490098]

>>22488872
Burroughs is actually good so I make a mental effort to forget he (was) ever associated with beatniks

[Anonymous No.22490104]

>>22489030
Subconsciously turning your wife into a man by your inner self taking control of your thanatos penis and ejaculating into her face so she can transmigrate back to the cities of the red night exceeds your purile understanding of the possibilities of the world. There are six cities.

[Anonymous No.22490113]

We are more of a New York School poets board
>more literate
>more intelligent
>more difficult
>more gay

[Anonymous No.22490196]

>>22488982
Based

[Anonymous No.22490204]

>>22490196
If he was a real man he'd be forcing women to read Cities of the Red Night.

[Anonymous No.22490251]

>>22490204
Also based

[Anonymous No.22490266]

>>22488982
based based based

[Anonymous No.22490648]

They were influential and that's honestly all that matters.

[Anonymous No.22490657]

>>22489237
>. It is not a lifestyle to be desired, it is impossible to mimic in today's world, and trying to will just leave you sad and broken.

Bullshit lol.

I was in threesomes and orgies everyday after I became a crypto millionaire.

[Barkun No.22490664]

Herro

[Anonymous No.22490766]

>>22488872
I don't understand what is wrong with murdering a bitch.

[Anonymous No.22490896]

>>22490657
Lol, keep coping buddy.

[Anonymous No.22491860]

No one brought up the fact that Kerouac was murdered and it was covered up. Neat. Anyways, yes, the entire beat nonsense was meant to subvert our values and it worked. Which is depressing because Jack was actually just a sad, disillusioned man trying to make sense of his percieved horrid reality and never really found it because he was looking too hard.

[Anonymous No.22492099]

>>22491860
>Kerouac was murdered and it was covered up.
explain????

[Anonymous No.22492129]

>>22488872

Kerouac and Ginsberg were both proud pedophiles.

I guess it was something new at the time, but none of it aged well.

[Anonymous No.22492132]

>>22490648
>They were influential and that's honestly all that matters.

I don't think they were. Other than Zippy the Pinhead, their "movement" died with them.

[Anonymous No.22492136]

>>22492129
Kerouac was not a pedo

[Anonymous No.22492183]

>>22488982
Based
>>22489237
He was the worst, hiding under his mom's skirts
>>22489275
Truthspeaker
>>22490204
Nice

Anyways Burroughs mogs all

[Anonymous No.22492334]

>>22488872
>had godawful prose.
not burroughs. he was way ahead of his time with his creativity, structure and worlds. if you could record the reading experience of his post queer stuff and show it to anyone that lived anytime a hundred years ago they'd be traumatized for life and he managed to make it funny. his prose was a lot more sophisticated than anyone beat adjacent
>>22490098
this. he was in it to get his dick beat.
>>22490113
/lit/ is a black mountain poets board kiddo

[Anonymous No.22492548]

oh look a bunch of christcucks whining again

[Anonymous No.22492555]

>>22492334
/lit/ is an objectivist board

[Anonymous No.22492580]

>>22492555
>>22492334
both wrong, lit is a the movement board

[Anonymous No.22492626]

>>22492334
>not burroughs. he was way ahead of his time with his creativity, structure and worlds.
Yep, came here to say this. I hardly see Burroughs as a “Beat” writer when compared to the more famous ones like Ginsberg and Kerouac, maybe he’s only seen like this because of Junkie, the general bohemian/drug-addicted/countercultural lifestyle he seems to have lived, but he really blows the rest of these guys out of the water, and his works are much closer to a blend of postmodernism, surrealism, sci-fi and fantasy. And with much higher quality of thought and writing. Burroughs could be the biggest piece of shit in the world but it wouldn’t detract from whatever genius he has. And yes, the counterculture was undoubtedly infiltrated by the CIA and probably other organizations like the KGB, but that doesn’t mean its origins were entirely artificial and there were no organic figures in it. This is the fallacy /pol/-kiddies fall into because they read the Laurel Canyon book by David McGowan (“Programmed to Kill” is great but disturbing reading, though, I’m not against McGowan completely).

I don't want to be offensive. But /pol/-kiddies are just awful. It seems ridiculous to have to say it. They can't think, they can't write. There's no discernible talent. Stephen King is Cervantes compared with /pol/-kiddies. For instance, they will also claim someone like Timothy Leary was “CIA” despite being harassed by the federal government and FBI and imprisoned in a maximum-security federal prison in solitary confinement for years on trumped up charges of having a joint as obvious political persecution for his public advocacy of psychedelic drug use. These hallucinogens became Schedule I controlled substances (the highest federal classification of them in the U.S.) ever since then, on a par with methamphetamine, heroin, and crack cocaine, apparently. They will talk, in the same vein as the OP, about how “they have an agenda of pushing psychedelic drugs because they brainwash you, just like the CIA used them in MK-Ultra!!!” Not realizing use of psychedelic drugs was just ONE part of MK-Ultra, and, of course, obviously afterwards they deemed them unpredictable enough to schedule them at the highest level of illegal/controlled substances in the US afterwards, as well as going after figures like William Leonard Pickard and accomplice Clyde Apperson for production of LSD and throwing them in federal prison for decades over it … what did that top Nixon advisor say about the War on Drugs, anyone remember? Wasn’t it that “we knew some of these drugs weren’t the risk we were portraying them as, it was just a ploy to go after the counterculture, anti-war protestors, and anti-government hippies”?

HMM … hmmm … ugghhh … ehhh???

>drugs are … le bad!

Study Tantra and shamanism and drop acid you stupid fucking cučk. You Goddamned fucking retard, fuck, fuck you. Stupid control-freak uptight caveman.

[Anonymous No.22494067]

>>22492099
https://whokilledkerouac.com/
I have the 10-part interview of the Secret Northport Tapes.

[Anonymous No.22494088]

Does anyone have the Burroughs passage that Ligotti mentions? The one about the smell of rotting metal.

[Anonymous No.22495383]

>>22488872
Burroughs was based. As was Bukowksi.

I really need to do a reread

[Anonymous No.22495463]

>>22492626
What rock did this thing crawl out of and why isn't it still on plebbit

[Anonymous No.22495474]

>>22492129
Kerouac was never a pedo. Burroughs and Ginsberg however were über pedophiles. So Jack just kinda of gets guilt by association.

[Anonymous No.22495540]

>>22488872

Hve you guys seen Kill Your Darlings? Great movie about the Beats teaming up to kill Dexter.

[Anonymous No.22495738]

Yawn, more empty souls falling into the abyss of sin and nihilism. Such a tired teopet. How about instead we get a glimpse into the courageous that it takes to face reality and stand tall? But no that wouldn't actually require sacrifice, something these egotistical fools could only use as a punchline.

[Anonymous No.22495742]

>>22495738

*trope

Courage

Sacrifice

Would*