Ayn Rand

[Anonymous No.22487766]

Why is she so hated? Is it because of her writing, ideology or something else?

[Anonymous No.22487787]

>>22487766
It's because she wasn't a Democrat. If American feminists weren't just footsoldiers for Dems, she would have been a feminist icon, just like the other outspoken Jewesses.

[Anonymous No.22487789]

>>22487766
Just stop making these threads. You're wasting space on the board

[Anonymous No.22487793]

>>22487766
literally read Value's Last Tango

[Anonymous No.22487801]

>>22487766
made for mating press

[sage No.22487820]

>>22487766
All of the above

Now >>22487789 and fuck off

[Anonymous No.22488070]

>>22487766
anti-semitism is the oldest form of hate the world has ever known

[Anonymous No.22488072]

>>22487820
>>22487789
Do this world a favor and kill yourselves faggots. Nobody wants you alive.

[Anonymous No.22488141]

You really need to ask?
Clueless ass nigga

[Anonymous No.22488174]

>>22487766
She was a great anti-communist philosopher and was widely read by ordinary people

[Anonymous No.22488222]

>>22487766
She was a narcissist and a fraud

[Anonymous No.22489310]

Just started Fountainhead, pretty good even though I think Ayn Rand is a cringey, ugly russian broad.

[Anonymous No.22489535]

>>22487766
She inspired Rush which was my intro to philosophy about 26 years ago

[Anonymous No.22489560]

>>22488070
From even before the Semites?

[Anonymous No.22489567]

You will find no stauncher adversary than a fellow true believer acolyte that abandons the cause after an epiphany. The Libertarians that discovered Libertarianism to be a fraud designed to contain them harbor a deep grudge against those that would have them contained.

[Anonymous No.22489573]

Because her dumb ideology is subversive jewish shit and anti-Anglo American. Just because it was anti-communist doesn’t mean it wasn’t retarded.

[Anonymous No.22489632]

Annoying jew and all het fans are pseuds.

[Anonymous No.22489640]

>>22487766
She's a pivotal figure in the development of the American right because she is the first to completely embody the cultural resentment of a failed media personality. Failed actors and comedians are now the main well from which the modern conservative movement draws its influencers. You can actually trace a few major figures like MTG, Boebert and Candace Owens back to the same Israeli-run (likely Mossad-related) scam talent agency called Explore Talent.
The reason she's hated is because she deliberately tried to be as disgusting as possible to offend the liberals she felt alienated from. Preaching about liberty while advocating for settler colonialism seems inconsistent, but it was never about establishing a cogent political position, it was always about getting one over on the people who rejected her screenplay.
People also likely hate her due to overexposure, as there's been a somewhat successful astroturfing campaign to elevate her novels into the American canon.

[Anonymous No.22489652]

>>22487766
Mid Jewess, Hannah Arendt was both cuter and more based (look up her views on the American "civil rights" movement). Alisa "Ayn Rand" Rosenbaum was also never blessed by the Heidegger D.

[Anonymous No.22489673]

>Soviet sleeper agent culturally appropriates robber baron carpetbaggers as 1) good, 2) the essence of the frontier west

Her entire catalogue is Soviet propaganda with the thinnest of Americana veneers; the cunt's cult of personality was only possible with her ethnoreligious coevals cornering the publishing market earlier in the century. Industry plant, 5th columnist, entryist, intellectual fraud, holistically ugly and repulsive.

[Anonymous No.22490726]

>>22487766
Picrel

[Anonymous No.22490730]

>>22487766
because Objectivism got to be the most retarded system of all time

[Anonymous No.22490735]

Ayn Rand is hated because she's dumb. Literally the usual bug you see form reddit.
Anarchism is a one of the hundred -isms made up by the bourgeois revolutionaries to saturate the political field in an attempt to make the plebeians stop thinking that kings were a thing. Atheists rewrite history this way.
With its moronic humanistically wishful-thinking non-aggression principle (NAP), Anarchism is literally the atheist fantasy of ''humanism of the bourgeois, without the legal republic of the bourgeois'' so it remains 100% controlled by bourgeois intellectuals. ie ''humanism is awesome''. And of course it can't be done in real life. It's literally a power fantasy for impotent beta cuck atheists. This is why it appeals to bugmen like tranny-lover Ted Kazincky and vaginally herd-follower Ayn Rand. Before atheists, anarchism never fucking existed and nobody ever though about this crappy religion (or ideology like atheists say, about their own religions).

[Anonymous No.22490739]

>>22487766
Marxist hate her because they literally cannot refute her, the right wing hate her because she is a kike atheist. Otherwise her 1000 page book were she shits on marxists is pretty decent.

[Anonymous No.22490767]

>>22490739
>Marxist hate her because they literally cannot refute her
Why would they need to refute her? She basically refuted her philosophy herself by being a welfare queen

[Anonymous No.22490768]

Fountainhead is a pretty good book. Atlas Shrugged is ok. Her philosophy is pretty correct and it makes Marxist losers seethe. For an idea, I was in Virginia Beach buying a book for a flight. I bought The Fountainhead. At the checkout register the guy told me he was a journalist from Wichita, Kansas (where my family is from). We had a talk. He told me he got fired over his opinions on things so he moved out here. Pretty bizarre. He then saw that I was buying the book and he told me over and over again how "dense" the book is.

Marxist literally can't help outting themselves because of how lonely and emotional they are. They have the same reaction to her as they do anybody that escaped the nightmare hellscape of a communist country. What's great about her is that you can use her as a litmus test.

Ask people what they think about her. If they do anything but screech they aren't a communist.

[Anonymous No.22490780]

>>22487766
Her philosophy is cucked Nietzscheanism, which in turn is cucked Stirnerism.

[Anonymous No.22490788]

not a philosopher, incel ideology and she's jewish

[Anonymous No.22490789]

>>22490767
If she was forced to pay taxes then she was entiteld to it. Not that i give a shit either way nigger.

[sage No.22490805]

>>22490739
Do you hate reading so much you couldn‘t even get through a 30 reply thread of people refuting her to spew your shit?

[Anonymous No.22490811]

>>22490805
>HURR DURRR! SHE IS LITERALLY BURGEOIS I LIKE SUCKING COCK, PEOPLE SMARTER AND STRONGER THAN ME SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO RUN THINGS!
Is this what you call a refute, marxoid cuckoid? Heres my refute to your reply, get a job nigger.

[Anonymous No.22490815]

>>22490789
Cope, if she doesn't take her ideas seriously enough to follow them, why should we? She was a parasite, simple as.

[sage No.22490825]

>>22490811
And you still didn‘t read it after being exposed as a retard, but think you can cover this up with feminine sarcasm, juvenile overflow from your pornographic mental waste, and the assumption from nowhere that I‘m a marxist.

[Anonymous No.22490837]

>>22490825
>H-hello my f-felloo-w-ws im totally not a troon marxist, but this ayn kike rand character is totally bad!
Like i said, get a job nigger.

[Anonymous No.22490841]

>>22490780
This. Also, her prose is shit. It's the incessant rambling typical of women, made worse by the blatant not-like-other-girls mentality.

[Anonymous No.22490892]

>>22490780
>>22490841
randbros..............

[Anonymous No.22490899]

>randbros.

[Anonymous No.22490900]

>>22490841
>Prose
Anon, do you know how I know you are gay?

[Anonymous No.22490904]

>>22487766
Its just her(?) face in my case. Just looks like a cunt. Haven't read a page and never will.

[Anonymous No.22490994]

>>22490811
My company tried to put me on salary. I refused. I told them that I would quit if they took me off of hourly rate. Under the old paradigm, if one's work were complete, one would go home and reap the reward of the salary. Under the new paradigm, if one's work is complete, one gets issued new work to do.

[Anonymous No.22490998]

>>22490899
>the hammer and sickle are smeared on the flag with dilation blood
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.22491004]

>>22487766
She advocated for a philosophy of individualism, which is always taboo in academia, and she also had an annoying belligerent personality which caused a lot of people to carry grudges against her beyond the grave. Oh, and she was also a woman, for some reason bitchy women make some people lose their minds whereas when a guy acts in an equally cuntish manner the reactions often aren't quite as visceral. There's just something about "Karens" that triggers people.

[Anonymous No.22491010]

>>22487766
I don't like the Ashkenazi one bit.

[Anonymous No.22491016]

>>22488070
>88070▶>>22489560
>>>22487766 (OP)
I'm sure it's for no reason. The whole world decided, at once, to pick out one group to hate for absolutely 0 reason. Sounds convenient. Read history.

[Anonymous No.22491018]

>>22490815
When did Ayn Rand specifically say that it's wrong to accept welfare that is available to you as a citizen of a nation?

[Anonymous No.22491069]

>>22487766
>she wore a dollar sign pin

[Anonymous No.22491145]

>>22490735
the bot broke

[Anonymous No.22491257]

>>22487766
https://nintil.com/why-ayn-rand-is-not-and-ought-not-be-taken-seriously

>I have never read a piece of work from Ayn Rand, beyond some paragraphs and extracts here and there on the internet. I never gave Objectivism, her system of thought, much importance.

>But there are people -Objectivists- who think she is one of the greatest, or the greatest, philosopher ever (along with Aristotle, they'll add). Sometimes, Objectivists tell people who have not read Rand to read her, so that they can become rational, and abandon their "non-Objectivist, mystical beliefs".

>I haven't read anything from Rand because I consider that the effort won't be worth it, as every time I've read something from Objectivists, I have not been persuaded that there is much to be learned from Rand. And also, there exists a critique available on the net that demolishes Objectivism. I will give reasons later why I believe the critique succeeds.

>This conclusion, however, has to be qualified. Should we reject views just because others with good qualifications say they ought to be rejected, and there are no critiques of their arguments for the rejections? Usually, yes. Such combination of factors is a very good reason to reject something without reading about it. This is how we generally go about in our life: rarely we go to the depths of Physics' journals to believe or disbelieve claims that physicists make. If a lot of people who have studied a subject for a long time agree on something, that is evidence for that something. It is not ultimate evidence, but the burden of proof is on you is you want to go against the consensus.

>So defenders of ideas that are out of the consensus of relevant experts should take the best critiques that have been made against them, and refute them. It would also be nice for them to provide a brief introduction to their ideas, to reduce the cost for others of acquiring information about those ideas.

[Anonymous No.22491281]

>>22491257
>>I consider that the effort won't be worth it.
Marxists summed up in one sentence. Which is why they will always remain as pathetic begging cucks to the state to put a leash over their necks.

[Anonymous No.22491307]

>>22491281
A phase one Marxists is totally ignorant. Marxists read their own literature at least, they stress that as a value. Phase two Marxists have read all that Marx managed and then seek to interpret the whole world in the terms Marx provided. You can't have an intelligent argument from a Marxist. They'll always interpret whatever you're saying in a key frame that's been taught to them, and then they'll seek to refute it. Marxism is functionally a religious dogma, about materialism and community worship. Nominally, it's not religious, but it functioned as the Soviet Union's de facto religion down to the persecution of non-adherents. Like with other religions, it is (was) functional as a vehicle for state desires, and the state just ignored the parts they didn't like. Look at China. Religions are largely crushed in China and the very capitalistic state masquerades as a communist society, so the state can seize control as it desires.
It seems Ayn Rand and objectivism are just an equally materialistic mirror to Marxism. A more successful ideology, sure.

[Anonymous No.22491312]

>>22490900
How?

[Anonymous No.22491373]

>>22491312
Because you aren't autistic enough to like jewess.

[Anonymous No.22491382]

>>22487766
The left hates her because she was staunchly anti-communist and pro-capitalism and individualism. The "intellectual" community is largely left leaning so of course she is hated by them.
The far-right and religious-right dislike her because she is a Jewish atheist.

I think the only people that like her are conservatives.

[Anonymous No.22491387]

In case you needed more proof that objectivists are crypto-male-feminists: >>22490900

[Anonymous No.22491398]

>>22491382
What if I dislike her for her belief in spooks like "rights" and "rationality"?

[Anonymous No.22491413]

>>22491387
>>22491004

[Anonymous No.22491431]

>>22491382
>I think the only people that like her are conservatives
Jesus fuckin Christ! The last time I saw a post this retarded was when an anon unironically thought Carl Schmitt was a liberal because he was a statist. When and why did this board become total dogshit?

[Anonymous No.22491447]

>>22491382
What if I dislike her because opinionated childless women are subhuman failures?

[Anonymous No.22491470]

>>22491431
Keep complaining. That is sure to fix it.

[Anonymous No.22491513]

>>22487766
shills banned Plato, explain this

[Anonymous No.22491557]

>>22490730
>Objectivism
>Rand described it as "the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute".
This is fucking gay

[Anonymous No.22491581]

>>22491557
>with productive achievement as his noblest activity
Holy cringe

[Anonymous No.22491588]

>>22491557
She should've been correctively raped by picrel.

[Anonymous No.22491604]

>>22491588
Finally, a good heeb!

[Anonymous No.22491619]

>>22491557
>Believed productive achievement as noblest activity
>Died childless
Worthless cunt

[Anonymous No.22491788]

>>22491619
but wait, there's more

[Anonymous No.22492896]

>>22489673
Are you retarded? rand's meritocratic utopia is the furthest thing from the soviet ethos. unless youre suggesting that she was just poisoning the well with bad ideology, but why do it in such an counterintuitive way. seems much more likely she was just a bad writer and mediocre thinker, not some subversive 5d chess playing foreign agent

[Anonymous No.22492989]

She reads like a parody of 18 year old libertarians.

[Anonymous No.22493584]

>>22487766
It comes down to her central moral notion of humans being ends in themselves, not means to an end. Drives people absolutely crazy.

[Anonymous No.22493587]

>>22490815
She followed her explicitly advocated idea that if a state steals money, then offers part of it back, one should take it. Where is the hypocrisy?

[Anonymous No.22493592]

>>22491619
Doubtful that she would've achieved more through kids than books.

[Anonymous No.22493595]

She's hated because she was an ugly bitter bitch whose philosophy basically amounts to a repackaged Nietzschean yearning for an übermensch cook in the nastiest possible american exceptionalism broth. Her actual writing is pretty good though, I'll give her that.

[Anonymous No.22494534]

>>22493595
>Her actual writing is pretty good though, I'll give her that.
Lol come back when youve read atlas shrugged

[Anonymous No.22494547]

>>22487766
Just as the painting was outmoded by the camera, and the symphony was outmoded by recording devices, poetry has been replaced by ___________

[Anonymous No.22494550]

>>22494547
wrong thread tarnation

[Anonymous No.22494672]

>>22489652
“Civil rights” is an appeal to emotion which women are nigh guilty of

[Anonymous No.22494676]

>>22490767
Most philosophers don’t live up to what they expound. So, in essence, according to you, they’re all worthless.

[Anonymous No.22494686]

>>22491788
I want to find her grave so I can gg allin on it

[Anonymous No.22494696]

>>22490767
>Marx advocates for workers rights
>Never worked a single day in his life.
>Begged money from his capitalist friends
>Grew up as a trustfund baby.
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.22494775]

>>22493584
I thought she hated Kant.

[Anonymous No.22494783]

>>22493592
How many of either do (You) have anon?

[Anonymous No.22494799]

>>22491619
>Rand
>Having children
>Productive
Only if you had great genes, having children is productive.

[Anonymous No.22494872]

>>22494696

[Anonymous No.22496119]

People don’t like her cuz she sourced the lineage of her characters from Russian revolutionaries from the late 1800’s and she had a cult following, which I never knew who Alan Greenspan was a part of. Philosophers don’t cite her very much either in their literature, they only cite the pertinent practitioners in their communities of practice there.

I also believe she may be an undercover Russian KGB agent. She always relied on coherentism to justify her answers without any foundational basis.

[Anonymous No.22496150]

>>22494775
She did, but mostly for his epistemology and deontology.
>>22494783
Two of one, none of the other.

[Anonymous No.22496836]

>After years in the North American country, in 1973 he gave a lecture at West Point and declared:
>I can say, and not out of mere patriotism, but with full knowledge of the necessary metaphysical, epistemological, ethical, political and aesthetic roots, that the United States
>It is the greatest, noblest and, according to its original founding principles, the only moral country in the history of the world.

[Anonymous No.22497105]

>>22487766
her followers are the most tedious people imaginable

[Anonymous No.22497116]

>>22487766
This bitch literally thought I would read 1,168 pages written by a Jewish woman. What unbelievable pride. Imagine the kind of gay retard who would read a doorstopper written by a busted Jewish woman.

Maybe if she had huge tits like Abby. Otherwise, you'll be lucky to get me to read 100 pages written by a Jewish woman. She should have had the self-awareness to distill her ideas into a 10 page pamphlet, given her sex and race.

[Anonymous No.22497122]

>>22497116
Meh.. Atleast she knows how to write better than some other jew we know.

[Anonymous No.22497141]

>>22497122
you have not read marx

[Anonymous No.22497147]

>>22497122
better than you?
not an achievement

[Anonymous No.22497154]

>>22497141
>Y-you h-have not read m-marx
Says extremely nervous troon for the 30th time, i have and it was a piece of shit filled with contradictions and delusions. No wonder the swiss and all other people laughed at him even his own father and family member called him out on being a fucking loser who will never amount to anything in his life. And he didnt he died broke and worthless his wife and children spat on his grave.

[Anonymous No.22497165]

Leftists hate her for obvious reasons. Conservatives hate her for her atheism, pro-abortion and little concern, or even disdain, for the family (she ditched hers in Russia, was liberal about sex and had no children). Fascists hate her for being a woman and Jewish. She no longer really has a base among the main political currents of today, and "relevance" is more about a popularity contest now.

Which is a pity, because she was a legitimately good novelist and she has a few interesting things to say in her philosophy. Specifically, We the Living and The Fountainhead are both masterpieces. Her philosophy is flawed, even severely so in some respects, but not particularly more so than some trash that is taken seriously in academia, and if you needed a philosopher to be 100% correct to read them then none of them would be worthwhile. Then you have arch-midwit attacks on her like >>22491257 that treat philosophical criticism as this "general" thing instead of the affirmation of one system as means of rejecting another; "this guy refuted Rand so she's wrong" means jack shit if you don't accept that guy's own philosophical premises.

[Anonymous No.22497181]

>>22497154
such blatant projection lmao

[Anonymous No.22497185]

>>22497181
>The troon keeps coping
You will never be a real woman or revolutionary.

[Anonymous No.22497193]

>>22497181

[Anonymous No.22497328]

She is highly retarded

[Anonymous No.22497362]

Her style as a writer, regardless of politics, is terrible. dryest shit ever

[Anonymous No.22498274]

>>22489640
based

>Failed actors and comedians are now the main well from which the modern conservative movement draws its influencers
see: Russell Brand

[Anonymous No.22498289]

>>22497154
absolutely seething

[Anonymous No.22498304]

Which is better, Fountainhead or Anthem
They're both 75 cents at the book store but I don't want both

[Anonymous No.22498341]

>>22498304
Fountainhead

[Anonymous No.22499783]

>>22497154
>filled with contradictions
LMAO. Listen here wagie: You will never be a writer.

[Anonymous No.22500051]

The marxists troons still seething at ayn rand has yet to come up with a rebuke that isnt ''MUH FEELINGZ!' very sad.

[Anonymous No.22501205]

>>22500051
Then how about a third positionist perspective? Ayn Rand promotes a system that is easy for the Jews to abuse (see: today). Hyperindividualism means less racial unity and hypermaterialism means an easier to placate society. Between these two attributes and money being the end-all be-all, we have a pro-zionist plutocracy, because the only people who really care about becoming hyperwealthy are either Jews or people who have been tricked into thinking this is how you can be happy. Well, they're wrong. You want to know happiness? Parenthood. And that's free.
Of course, if we didn't have non-Whites/Jews, it wouldn't matter what type of system we were under, because it would work just fine, just as long we maintained that racial unity.
>>22497141
It doesn't matter because Marxists haven't even read Marx. All of their information is secondhand from people who also got their information second hand. The only thing that matters is: Not red. Not dead. Dead red.

[Anonymous No.22501273]

>>22497116

the straw-man anti-semite at work. why do i get the sense that so many such comments are written by jews themselves? if you want to complain about jews, you could do everyone the favor of choosing some that are more deserving than a novelist.

[Anonymous No.22501295]

>>22501273
cont.

and even better if you are jewish yourself. it would go a long way toward dispelling the perception that jews are a self-aggrandizing people who either favor zionism or the bastardization of europe and america