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[Anonymous No.22477899]

I've dropped my fountain pen and bent the nib.
It can't be bent back into place and Parker doesn't sell replacements.
It still works for now but will likely begin malfunctioning.
The only option is a replacement. What should I buy?
This can also be considered as a general thread that relates to fountain pens and other writing implements.

[Anonymous No.22477943]

>>22477899
Option 1: stop being a pretentious gigafaggot and use ball pens like normal people
Option 2: type on a keyboard, who the fuck even handwrites anymore?
I'm pretty sure the only handwriting I've done in the past 5 years was signing documents at work

[Anonymous No.22477949]

>>22477899
Checked.
I just bought a pen from Karas Kustoms that I'm very happy with.

[Anonymous No.22477953]

Why would you need to use anything else?

[Anonymous No.22477959]

>>22477899
If it makes you feel any better, dropping a ballpoint pen straight down (i.e on the nib) ruins it too

[Anonymous No.22477995]

>be a chad like me
>own a manual lathe
>machine your own pens, made out of metals, plastics and wood
idk asking some precision machining workshop might be a possibility
just know that this is a tedious, uneconomical use of industrial equipment
meaning it will cost, probably a lot, and average metal spinner might not even be skilled enough for it
find a guy making watches, guns or aerospace/nuke reactor parts, you know, skilled people for this kind of work

idk man once i found designs i like, i mass produced some serious fancy pens

[Anonymous No.22478105]

>>22477953
Not taking notes by hand?
You're not going to make it.

[Anonymous No.22478120]

This is the best pen I have ever used.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Smooth-Ballpoint-Knock-10-Pieces-Black/dp/B08P5J6CHH?pd_rd_w=U1Roz&content-id=amzn1.sym.372ebc70-8e66-4826-afac-9872c242f329&pf_rd_p=372ebc70-8e66-4826-afac-9872c242f329&pf_rd_r=5PM0N8X7M3KZ5PW28VM6&pd_rd_wg=NkX5J&pd_rd_r=3501c6a6-68da-4c19-b5a0-64d5badd577b&pd_rd_i=B08P5J6CHH&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_m_grid_dv_rp_0_1_t

[Anonymous No.22478163]

>>22477899
Faber-Castell make a lovely, fairly inexpensive one. If I could find the damn link, I would put it in this comment. Pic very much related.

[Anonymous No.22478172]

>>22478163
Ah, it's called Faber-Castell Feder and it comes in fine, medium and bold nib sizes.

[Anonymous No.22478252]

>>22477899
When you buy a new pen make sure it uses a standard nib and that the nib can be replaced without replacing the housing/feed as well.

But your Parker might use a standard nib, just because Parker does not sell replacements does not mean replacements are not available, do a little research on your pen.

[Anonymous No.22478310]

>>22477899
Pilot makes really good pens. Check out the Pilot Metropolitan (aka Cocoon aka Metropolitan MR)

[Anonymous No.22478602]

>>22477899
What's your budget anon? I personally like Sailor but they're pretty unusual, especially for a western customer

[Anonymous No.22478658]

>>22478602
$50 or so.

[Anonymous No.22479037]

>>22478658
Unfortunately the bar for fountain pens is rather high, for $100 you would have a lot more to choose from, for >$50 your best bet is LAMY, Pilot, Platinum or Kaweco.

[Anonymous No.22479112]

>>22478310
seconding this. the metropolitan was my first foray into fountain pens and still holds a special place. definitely recommend that if you like it, put in a converter, as the stock namiki cartridges feather a bit.

downside is that metro's nibs are not replaceable when damaged, unless you have another metro laying around.

currently rocking a Birmingham with a nekosimine nib, very pleasant writing experience.

[Anonymous No.22479144]

I have a LAMY Studio and am very happy with it. I understand they‘re overpriced outside of Germany though. Was ~45€ here.

[Anonymous No.22479186]

>>22479037
There are plenty of good pens for under $100.
>>22478658
TWSBI Classic is nice, $50. Piston fill which is nice to have if you write a lot since it holds a lot of ink, no dealing with converters or buying refills. And the nib can be replaced in case you ever drop it again.

[Anonymous No.22479189]

>>22477943
Nah fountain pens are cool and seem fun to use. How is it pretentious if there’s a practical difference and certain advantages to using it?

[Anonymous No.22479197]

>>22479189
And a single pen can last your lifetime. I occasionally stop and think about all the paper which has traveled under the nib of my pen. Collectors are kind of insufferable though.

[Anonymous No.22479273]

>>22477899
>using anything but a waterman C/F from the 1950's

[Anonymous No.22479307]

>>22477899
>be me
>fat nerd of 8th grade, chem class group work
>mfw on the same team w/Stacy
>could someone help with pen?
> always at ur service mlady
*hand her my fountain pen*
*fedora tip*
> oh thanks anon ... *tries writing* wtf is this shit? *starts banging the tip on the paper as if it was a stuck ballpoint pen
Mfw.jpg
>you are.. Oh nevermind *keep on smiling meanwhile sceaming inside*
>the fucking bitch didn't even notice it was a fountain pen inb4 she broke it in a no time
Never talked to her again

[Anonymous No.22479351]

My handwriting is mostly annotating books, which I do in pencil. Are there any classy pencils out there that will help me pretend I'm cool?

[Anonymous No.22479360]

>>22479351
Plenty of fancy mechanical pencils. I like the ones aimed towards drafting like Rotring but that is mostly because I grew up with them in the house. Some very fancy and complicated mechanical pencils out there, should be able to find some which will help your larp.

[Anonymous No.22479364]

>>22477899
Crayons work well and are a tasty treat at the same time.

[Anonymous No.22479489]

>>22479186
As someone with a few pens between $100 and $200 (and several much cheaper), you really don't need to spend more than a few dollars to have a good writing experience. A lot of cheap Chinese fountain pens can be great writers.

[Anonymous No.22479506]

If your budget is under $100 I'd say TWSBI Eco's are a great start (and lots of colour variations).

I'm personally a fan of Platinum Century 3776's. Kaweco is also a great brand.
The one Pilot I purchased (Prera) sucks dick and I've completely written of Pilot as a brand now. The inkflow is garbage on that pen and I use the same ink for everything, so if it can't handle that it's a waste of time. Fuck, it makes me mad. Cost me like $70 for the damn pen too.

[Anonymous No.22479529]

>>22479189
It's pretentious because ball pens are a superior technology and 1000 times cheaper. If you want to waste money and jerk off to obsolete technology be my guest but at least be honest instead of coping with "its practiC00l". It's not. Fountain pens are ass practically.

[Anonymous No.22479535]

>>22479529
I use a fountain pen every day at work. They are much nicer to write with and you don't have to apply the type of pressure you do with a ballpoint. The only thing that is slightly inconvenient is refilling them every couple of weeks (depending on usage). You don't even have to spend a lot of money either.

[Anonymous No.22479543]

>>22479189
>certain advantages to using it?
Describe them, please.

[Anonymous No.22479613]

>>22479307
Your fault. You don't lend someone your fountain pen ever. The nib becomes accustomed to your writing style.

[Anonymous No.22479705]

>>22477899
Parker does sell replacement parts, it's not Montblanc. If it's discontinued just lurk the used market.

[Anonymous No.22479742]

For the people who write a lot: how long does a single refill last you on average?
I am looking to buy a more expensive ballpoint pen because the plastic ones make me wanna blow my own brain out.
Also, is there any brand or model which excels in rougher terrains?
I regularly travel between extremely hot and extremely cold areas.

[Anonymous No.22479909]

>>22479364
Thank you, Marine.
On another note, which brands have nibs that can be replaced without having to replace the entire front end of the pen?

[Anonymous No.22480327]

>>22479529
What makes ballpoints superior technology? Other then cheap mass production of disposable pens they really do not offer much over a fountain pen.
>>22479543
>will last your lifetime if you take care of it
>will be cheaper in the long run if you avoid cartridges
>can use old fashioned water based inks which is great for draw fags
>easy on the hand even after hours of use (have not gotten writers cramp since I made the switch)
>does not become garbage if paper fibers/debris clog the tip
>will not just die and become garbage to replace
>>22479909
Most if not all brands have pens like that and many of the pens which have that single piece forward unit can have the nib replaced, it is just more involved and takes more skill. When I bought my pen my primary requirements were no cartridges/converters and uses standard nib, TWSBI Precision was the only pen I found that had both of those without being far more than I was willing to pay. Cost me $70 and I am happy with it. It has been a good number of years since I bought it so things may have changed since but I did not find much under $200 which fit my requirements. The hexagonal body is nice in that it does not roll away and the o-ring seal on the cap is really nice, tip never dries out.

[Anonymous No.22480361]

>>22480327
>What makes ballpoints superior technology
durable, last longer, write on anything, no smudging, cost pennies, do not leak, no maintenance
>will last your lifetime if you take care of it
This thread's OP post proves otherwise, one bop and your 400$ pen is trashed
>will be cheaper in the long run if you avoid cartridges
Fuck off
>can use old fashioned water based inks which is great for draw fags
Just get a gel pen then
>easy on the hand even after hours of use (have not gotten writers cramp since I made the switch)
Thats a big misconception, actually, the cramping is not the result of the tiniest pressure that you apply to the pen, but from repeated micro movements of the hand - RSI. The reason fountain pen owners dont get cramps is because they write very slowly due to their shitty pens not dispensing ink fast enough
>does not become garbage if paper fibers/debris clog the tip
Water ink literally fucking MOLDS
>will not just die and become garbage to replace
Oh curses, I cant fetishize a pen!

Ballpoint chads stay winning

[Anonymous No.22480428]

>>22480361
>durable, last longer, write on anything, no smudging, cost pennies, do not leak, no maintenance
What does durability matter for something which will be thrown away in a week or two? How does a disposable pen which holds a quarter to half as much ink last longer? Ballpoints require a writing surface which provide enough friction for the ball point to function. Smudging is a function of ink and paper, not the pen. I have no smudging issues. 7 Years and my pen has never leaked. Maintenance is maybe 2 minutes work once a year. Suck water into the pen and eject it a few times, let dry. Lube the piston. Fill. Done.
>This thread's OP post proves otherwise
What do you not understand about the phrase "if you take care of it?"
>Fuck off
lol.
>gel pen
Don't work well for washes and water brushing which is the primary advantage of water based inks in drawing.
>actually
Unless your nib is clogged a fountain pen will dispense enough ink for the fastest of writers.
>Water ink literally fucking MOLDS
Probably some really cheap ones do but most inks have nothing in them that mold can grow on, 20 years of drawing with water based ink and never had it go moldy. What does this have to do with paper fibers and debris getting pulled into the tip? Even if your ink did go moldy and clog the tip of a fountain pen it would only take a minute or two to clean it and getting it back to writing like new.
>Oh curses, I cant fetishize a pen!
So buying things that last and do not require constant replacement is fetishising it? Do you live in a cardboard box?

[Sir Dunking Biscuits (or something, i forgot my username) No.22480465]

>>22477899
my dear fellow, simply pluck a feather from a waterfowl or common cock.

>>22479364
i agree with this.

[Anonymous No.22480999]

>>22477943
Fountain pens are cool and make your handwriting look better. Stop being an insufferable faggot who goes through life telling people not to enjoy things.

[Anonymous No.22482384]

>>22480361
There's another advantage - if you're locked in hand-to-hand combat you can pull out your fountain pen and squirt your opponent in the eye like Sean Connery in Last Crusade.

[Anonymous No.22482397]

>>22477899
>It can't be bent back into place and Parker doesn't sell replacements.

i'm sure you can find a new nib somewhere. they're usually quite cheap and easy to get unless you have something exotic. this is like buying a new car because the tires are worn out. surely you could have come up with a better pretense for a thread in which to shill fountain pens.

[Anonymous No.22482398]

>>22480428

[Anonymous No.22482412]

>>22482384

you can stab someone with a bic too, but that's much less romatic. i'm tempted to condemn modernity, but the blame probably lies elsewhere

[Anonymous No.22482414]

>>22480999

they're also easier to write with. ball point pens have a lot of resistance and i find them hard to use.

[Anonymous No.22482558]

>>22477899
Sorry to hear that fellow fountainchad. True aficionados acquire various types of fountain pen of different makes and levels of quality. You can get some disposable ones for fairly cheap. They come in bags of a 4 or 5. I forget the brand I have. For something that fuses both function and form at a good price point, you're going to want to look at either German or Japanese brands. Lots of fountain pen designs also have replaceable nibs. Then there are the more fancy ones, the ones you only by if you have fuck you money, which are more like display pieces than actual tools and that you'd be a fool to toss around. Generally you can get a good durable Japanese piece , best in class, for around $100 USD.

[Anonymous No.22482563]

>>22477953
This is masochistic. The whole point of a fountain pen is in the smooth effortless gliding sensation it gives as you write. Ballpoint pens are like a dentist scrapping away at a tooth.

[Anonymous No.22482762]

>>22482398
Why are your strokes slanted in different directions? Are you spastic?

[Anonymous No.22482805]

>>22482398
Which demonstrates their poor durability, the ballpoint is part of the cartridge because the ball and socket wear and if they get clogged with debris or paper fibers they are ruined. What you have there is a fancy holder for a cheap disposable pen, lipstick on a pig.

[Anonymous No.22482820]

>>22482762
>Are you spastic?
Yes, I usually post on /g/

[Anonymous No.22482826]

>>22482563
Ballpoints have a BALL on its nib, and the ink is oil-based which provides a lubricating effect
Fountain pens have SHARP METAL FANGS on its nib, and the ink is dirty water. The only reason fountain pens feel "smoother" is because they dump x10 more ink on the page, literally diarrhea of ink

[Anonymous No.22482840]

>>22482826
Ballpoint requires pressure because the ink is a paste. Rollerballs write smoother and without pressure because they use essentially the same inks as fountain pens and like fountain pens the fine tips feel more like a pencil because they do not put down enough ink to lubricate the tip as it moves across the paper; the bolder pens in both dump enough ink to feel smooth. Gel pens are pretty much writing with jello, water based gel, much like roller balls in how they write but have a tendency to skip and in my experience are the most likely to just die.

A fine or extrafine nib on a fountain pen probably uses less ink than an equivalently sized ball point but an extra fine fountain pen is considerably bolder then an extra fine ballpoint.

Stop seething about things you know nothing about.