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22477230 No.22477230 [Reply] [Original]

FUCK he is good.

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>>22477230
We finally meet.

>> No.22477373

>>22477230
Isaac should have helped Yag though.

>> No.22477376

>>22477373
I mean he kinda tried

>> No.22477418

Since OP is an idiot

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/guIyhAzS
>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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>> No.22477448

I enjoy lolis in fantasy and sci-fi literature.

>> No.22477457

Do we really have to make this in every thread?

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Fuck…

>> No.22477495

>>22477418
rude

>> No.22477629

I don't think there is lamest fantasy trope than "magic slowly fading away from the world".

>> No.22477633

>>22477482
This shit really falls flat for people who are happy with their lives

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Anyone read this?

>> No.22477651

There really isn't anything remotely similar to Lord of Mysteries written by western people...

>> No.22477694

>>22477651
Thank God.

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I'm reading God's Demon, a novel by fantasy artist Wayne Barlowe. It's about political struggle between demon cities in Hell. The main rivalry is between Sargatanas of the relatively enlightened Adamantinarx-Upon-The-Acheron, and the brutal Prince Beelzebub of the capital Dis.

>> No.22477700

>>22477694
The setting is absolutely kino wdym

>> No.22477724

>>22477699
Fuck that sounds kinda cool

>> No.22477729

Is China natty?

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King of /sffg/.

Simple as.

>> No.22477844

>>22477482
is this imajica

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I've been reading Kull and while I really like Conan, so far I found Kull quite silly at times. Like the one story with ancient talking cat when no one question the cat's slave who's always next to the cat and has mouth covered by cloth. And the cat for really is really ancient and possible immortal, it just doesn't talk.

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lmao
he might as well have died of pozzed
his early books are good but they became increasingly dumb as the years went on
sad

>> No.22477903

>>22477873
read howards westerns. So good

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/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

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/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

>> No.22478000

>>22477873
Kull is a less refined (as in thr writing and story concepts,he is still a barbarian), more philosophic, more experimental Conan. One or two of the kull tales were rewritten into Conan tales. Howard lamented that due to wright's editing of weird tales he had to write less experimental stuff and had to do the same damsel in distress tales that wright wanted. Bran and Solomon Kane are Howard's best creations IMO with some of the other miscellaneous horror and adventure tales being the best stuff he ever wrote. It's a shame Howard is only thought of as the guy who wrote Conan when Conan was just one of his many great creations

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>> No.22478038

>>22477230
Too bad he’s an insufferable commie. I prefer Japan Joyce.

>> No.22478056

>>22477979
The Poppy War? More like The Poopy War

>> No.22478057

I'm halfway into The Dispossesed. It's a good fucking book

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>> No.22478162

>>22477230
>dude those prisoners were imprisoned and treated horribly for….NO REASON WHATSOEVER!!!
>IF YOU RELEASE THEM BACK INTO SOCIETY EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT GREAT WHY ARE YOU SUCH A BIGOT

I liked the Scar but China’s communism made some aspects of it a little ridiculous

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Why were the aliens cartoonishly evil?

>> No.22478169

>>22477230
>fuck he is good
If you think China Mieville is a good author you might be a midwit retard

>> No.22478174

>>22478169
>might be
Why the uncertainty? It's an unambiguous retard flag.

>> No.22478196

>>22478162
You can't seriously be this retarded

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>>22477766
Does he touch on necromancy? Just started reading the third book and not a hint of the dark art, it's a personal favourite.

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>>22477230
Recommend me some recently (20-23) published stuff.
Preferably written by non-feminist men, if you catch my drift.

>> No.22478288

Does anyone remember this website that recommended fantasy books which might have been taken down? It was formatted like scifijazz with a list of best fantasy novels and a sidebar for subgenres like golden age , romance or animals. Its where i first heard about patricia mckillip books or heroes die. Im hoping to use the waybackmachine to find it again.

>> No.22478289

>>22478288
50bestfantasybooks or something? Was amazing until it wasn't at all.

>> No.22478293

Thoughts on this concept:

Book starts off like your normal, gritty, sorts grim dark fantasy. But then the characters get dipped into a parallel universe where the last 24 years of history has gone differently.

Then they get dumped back into their own world eventually; they don't have control over these shifts.

This eventually ties into the main plot, but I was thinking it might be too high concept for the genre. You know, sometimes people don't like when a plot radically violates established tropes.

>> No.22478294

>>22478131
shhh... fang yuan is sleeping

>> No.22478296

>>22478289

I just found it actually after typing my post. It was part of the website i mentioned 10 years ago:
https://web.archive.org/web/20120418075238/http://fantasy100.sffjazz.com/lists_books.html

For some reason it was completely removed.

>> No.22478305

>>22478293
> people don't like when a plot radically violates established tropes.
people in the real world don't think like that

>> No.22478311

>>22478296
That's funny, I remember a very similar website with a very similar name, which also disappeared. I'm certain it's a different one because there were a lot more subgenres on the sidebar.

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>>22477230

Recommend me stuff I haven't heard of that's like Wildbow.

>> No.22478476

>>22478311
nta there's a one with a sci fi version still existing someone linked it here a while back

>> No.22478549

>>22478168
They weren't, what they were saying made sense. The idea of musical instruments being made out of bones/flesh/tortured souls might sound retarded at first pass, but when they give their rationale you can see what they mean. Without a cost, wtf is the point of anything? It embodied the juxtaposition of the Empire of Azad vs the Culture.

Also, Gurgeh was never playing the same game that the Azadians were playing since he always had the Limiting Factor on standby to just decimate the empire if they tried anything.

After reading the book a few times, the true fun is trying to parse together what the Culture was actually doing. Gurgeh was obviously just a game piece in the whole operation, but how much did SC know and predict? It's a fascinating book because the main characters are never even spoken to, despite Gurgeh, the drone, and everyone else having decent arcs. Like, was mawhrin skel SC all around, fucking with him and pushing him into contact's hands? What about Amalk-ney, was he also lying to Gurgeh and just helping SC?

How about Chiark Hub?

God I love Banks' books so much

>> No.22478626

I just finished the book of the new sun. Has anyone read it? I have some questions about it.

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Just finished Xenocide and about to start Children of the Mind. Are Ender's Shadow or anything past that worth the time?

>> No.22478649

>>22478647
Ender's shadow was underwhelming in my recollection.

>> No.22478679

>>22478549
NTA, but I recently started listening to the audio books myself. Player of games is my favorite so far, but still working on the whole series.

>> No.22478706

>>22477902
Nothing like having teeth that confirm the English stereotype.

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>>22478039

>> No.22478717

>>22478626
Ask the questions, preferably spoilered.

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>>22477230
first for more love stories with hags on scifi and fantasy novels

>> No.22478723

>>22477230
he look so strong

>> No.22478779

>>22478720
are you the guy who used to post the moms in fantasy list

>> No.22478814

>>22478720
Need more books like RahXephon

>> No.22478836

Finished The Prince of Nothing trilogy. The second book was absolutely kino. As bad as I feel for Achamian , I think Cnaiur was the character I enjoyed the most.
I'm just wondering if the Cishaurim are dammed like the rest of the magic users.
Are the other books in the series as good as these?

>> No.22478877

Best novels set entirely on spaceships?

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>>22478779
__yes__

>> No.22478920

>>22478877
Look for generation ship novels.

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>>22477230
What am I in for?

>> No.22478947

>>22478468
A Practical Guide to Evil was the only thing that managed to scratch that Worm itch. It's different in many ways, better in many ways, but still very similar.
The first book is really bad, but the quality rises very sharply.

>> No.22478961

>>22478720
>>22478914
Whoever the writers are at Bethesda they deserve to be shot. Even /sffg/ could do a better job.

>> No.22478973

>>22478961
>writers
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the text in the game was shat out by AI given how Bethesda notoriously cuts every corner possible.

>> No.22478980

>>22478973
I jumped into Starfield straight after finishing Baldur's Gate 3. The difference in the quality of the writing could not have been more stark. They quality of everything if I'm being honest.

>> No.22479024

>>22478549
>Like, was mawhrin skel SC all around, fucking with him
Read the very last line of the book again.

>> No.22479025

>>22478980
they're both goyslop garbage.

>> No.22479026

>>22478920
Are there any like the Pandorum movie? I loved that one

>> No.22479031

>>22479026
Revelation Space is the first book that comes to mind.

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>>22478131
>>22478294

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I am reading some stories from pic related, and I am having a good time. The Dead Man was nice, but it was barely even a story. I get it is Wolfe's first work that was picked up from a magazine(from a pornographic magazine no less), but it seems like a weird start to the book.

The Hero as Werwolf was interesting. Listening to Paul and the old man talk about their lives was fascinating, but the nature of the "real humans" and masters certainly confused me. I don't think there is anything really pointing to the "real humans" being werwolfs except for the title. They act a bit animalistic, but it really seems like they are humans driven to cannibalism in post food world created by the masters. However, the nature of the masters is even more confusing. They seem a bit alien at first. Then they are described as gene modifications of the original humans to bring down consumption. Then they are described at the end as being born from mothers, are raised, and get a job in a way that seems to be a criticism of how us humans live today. It went over my head I am afraid to say.

Many Mansions is my favorite so far. The idea of moving living houses (controlled by brains?) was really interesting. The suggestion that they could be shapeshifter Aboriginals who eat people who walk into them seemed like great folklore as well. Although at the end, it seems to imply that they are truly controlled by the brains of women. I think this was done to set up a contrast between the colonialists and their homes being fully patriarchal (a women's place being in the house ends up in them literally becoming the house) and an empire that was pure matriarchy. Both sides seemed compelling and repugnant at the same time. Pure SF goodness imo.

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>>22478980

>> No.22479068

>>22478980
True BG3 is such a great game.

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>>22478169
Pseud.
>>22478162
Cant you just enjoy things?
>>22477729
Yeah. My arms are bigger and Im natty

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>>22478284
>the library at mount char
surprisingly goood

>> No.22479122

>>22478284
Nettle & Bone. Among all the shitty Hugo candidates that's probably the one decent novel that somehow crept in. Probably because its antagonist abuses women.

>> No.22479142

>>22478877
Non-stop by Brian Aldiss

>> No.22479175

>>22478961
True. At least there was some semi-interesting lore stuff going on with elder scrolls. Starfield is just fucking bleak.

>> No.22479178

>>22478305
They don't consciously think about it but they get really mad when it happens and usually drop the book in question

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>Get to chapter 1143
The comedy of Bai Ning Bing's constant reactions to Fang Yuan while traveling together have finally been surpassed by Six Hair's

>> No.22479346

>>22479175
But... but... the magic space rocks!

>> No.22479446

mate actually tastes decent
glad he mentioned it in BOTNS. i feel like i've taken a mild drug.

>> No.22479462

>>22477482
>The more heavy handed I am the better because there is no audience as dense a suicidal teenagers

>> No.22479464

>>22477642
>2 jewish authors
>woman of nondescript ethnicity on the cover
>nyt bestseller
Nobody with a clue.

>> No.22479471

>>22478549
Any educated modern man knows that human reasoning is faulty.
>without cost
The cost to get to earth dwarfs what ever the fuck nonsense you are talking about.

>> No.22479478

>>22478039
From here I've only read blue mage and some of randidly. Their both fine but blue mage is better, but there is much better shit that isn't on this list, so I guess you just took random novels to try and make the genre look bad?

>> No.22479575

>>22479478
It's almost certainly a chart made by a guy just randomly grab-bagging various books that broadly fit the category. Half of them are shit-tier smut books.

>> No.22479682

>>22479446
It's way too strong for me, like I get jitters from it immediately

>> No.22479763

Can someone please explain to me why everyone seems to think that N. K. Jemisin is a good writer? Genuinely, don't just say because she's black and a woman.

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>>22479763
>Genuinely, don't just say because she's black and a woman.
That is the entire reason. You think a white male author would even get published when producing something identical? Absolutely delusional.
>pic related is the working environment for anything to do with publishing or the humanities.

>> No.22479785

>>22479763
Who is "everyone"?

>> No.22479793

>>22479774
I don't understand your image. Is it supposed to be "who is she to judge me?". Well, as it says, she's no one, but she's empowered to do so by her employer. The negative sentiment seems misdirected to me.

>> No.22479794

>>22479774
There are no white male authors writing anything identical. That's the point. The current state of the genre atm is at an all time low.

>> No.22479800

>>22479785
Okay to be more specific: many fantasy and sci-fi readers who love her, as well as the general big awards in those genres heaping awards on her. Critical darling + commercial success. Everyone was some hyperbole on my part.

>> No.22479801

>>22479794
>>22479774
>>22479763
Are you asking a question and replying to yourself?

>> No.22479803

>>22479801
I am not, weirdly enough. I asked because I've tried to read her and have found myself far from the biggest fan.

>> No.22479813

>>22479025
All Fantasy is goyslop...

>> No.22479818

>>22479803
You're more likely to find her fans elsewhere, though there's a 5 star review written of the Fifth Season in the /sffg/ Goodreads group you could look at. I would link what I've written, but I'm not positive on her overall at all. I rated Emergency Skin 1 star. It's extremely annoying and so is the other short fiction I've read from her.

>> No.22479822

>>22479818
>/sffg/ Goodreads
I'll take a look, thanks!

>> No.22479824

>>22479803
She's a technically proficient author but yes I'm not a huge fan either. The stories simply aren't for me. However I'd struggle to find any better books released in the years she won all those awards.

>> No.22479827

test

>> No.22479831

>>22479824
Would you be struggling because you don't know about, let alone read, recent year stuff?

>> No.22479842

>>22479831
No. I read a lot. Most of it though isn't very good. That's why all the Sad Puppies complaints were laughable. Anything they recommended was complete trash.

>> No.22479847

>>22479842
Oh, ok, there's plenty that I personally enjoyed more from those years.

>> No.22479848

>>22479800
I'd have to read more current sff to give a real answer but I recently finished The Fifth Season and thought it was really good. I had some criticisms, but nothing that ruined the experience for me. I also read The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms and dropped it because it was generic and boring.

If I had to guess I would say that her popularity has a lot to do with her minority status coupled with the fact that she probably writes better than most of her competition. The Fifth Season isn't on the level of Hugo/Nebulas of decades past, but it probably deserved the award more than anything else that would have been eligible.

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Any western books like this?

>> No.22479868

>>22479848
Will you be reading the rest of The Broken Earth trilogy?

>> No.22479874

>>22479865
There are lots of haremlit with huge harems like dragon emperor by eric vall
Of course the story is really garbage but still

>> No.22479878

The Hugos are "which social message do want do we want to popularize" so what most deserves to win it is irrelevant to in terms of quality, popularity, or anything else.

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>> No.22479910

>>22479901
How much do you self-insert as Fang Yuan or otherwise wish you were him? How deep is your admiration?

>> No.22479933

>>22479868
Definitely. The sequels aren't a top priority read at the moment but they're not far down my list.

>> No.22479946

>>22479847
> there's plenty that I personally enjoyed more
Such as?

>> No.22479955

>>22479471
this comment was written by a bot

>> No.22479957

>>22479910
I admire him deeply however according to him everyone has to find their own way. Therefore do not want to be him but I find Fang Yuans guidance to be invaluable.

I only self insert rarely at certain scenes and situations which I find interesting, exciting or funny, mostly for entertainment purposes.

>> No.22479975

>>22477230
Biggest niggerlover in English media yet no black girls want anything to do with his creepy racist ass. Odd innit.

>> No.22480079

>>22479763
She is a good writer, I don't like her much either as an author and I kinda despise her as a person but you can't read Fifth Season and think it's poorly written.

>> No.22480083

>>22480079
I can and it speaks volumes that you rate that trash.

>> No.22480109

>Acha gets tricked into teaching Kellhus the Gnosis in the first 3 books
>gets humiliated, literally cucked
>Mimara shows up
>he agrees to teach her the Gnosis
When will this dumb nigga learn

>> No.22480116

>>22480079
Compared to Delany, Peake, or Wolfe she's a fucking hack. Where are the writers of this caliber in the space?

>> No.22480118

>>22480116
Also God forbid I forget Harrison.

>> No.22480120

>>22480116
nobody but you is comparing her to masters of the genre

>> No.22480124

>>22480120
She's constantly being called a modern master by the general media, including the award givers. We agree that she is not, but who is in the modern space?

>> No.22480130

>>22480109
Why are you reading such garbage?

>> No.22480134

>>22479794
>There are no white male authors writing anything identical.
How would you know that? My point is, assuming for a moment there are men writing similar stuff, an industry composed of 80%+ women is never going to publish them.

>> No.22480136

>>22480109
>Too old to learn sorcery
>Agree to teach her just to shut her up
Whats the problem?

>> No.22480145

>>22480134
You guys are talking such bollocks, so much awful derivative shit by male authors gets published every year too

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>>22480145
The difference is its not the same kind of shit that was published years ago, that sort of thing can only be self published now. Much like in other mediums, good stuff is 100% being veto'd by publishing houses for being problematic, or not what the industry needs.

You'd be insane to think the sensibilities of those who work in publishing don't inform what is allowed to be printed. 8/10 people working there are women; hence the explosion of literary trends designed to appeal to them.

Its why there hasn't been any good, non niche, fantasy or sci fi for the past 20 years. You can't get good stuff with libtard sensibilities, which are inherently demonic and antithetical to the hyperborean spirit required to produce anything interesting.

>> No.22480202

>>22480180
once again
>You guys are talking such bollocks

you're just making stuff up and then insisting it's true because it needs to be for your worldview to apply lol. a single reference to an author you might've actually read and everything since is just daydreaming nonsense

>> No.22480204

>>22480180
>there hasn't been any good, non niche, fantasy or sci fi for the past 20 years.
wtaf do you think is interesting then?

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>>22480180
>antithetical to the hyperborean spirit

>> No.22480253

>>22479024
I realize that Flere-Imsaho and Mawhrin-Skel are the same, this doesn't really prove anything though. Mawhrin-Skel shows up to Chiark like seven years before the start of player of games or something like that, while the empire was discovered 70 years before. At this point, Gurgeh was already an accomplished game player. Mawhrin-Skel's initial story was that he was an SC drone that was rejected because of his personality, so he works Gurgeh into cheating to blackmail him into convincing SC to get him back into the agency. Is this actually the truth though, was he actually rejected? Or was he created and then deployed undercover to Chiark by SC to subvert Gurgeh for the seven years while MS was on the O? If not, then MS was just deployed with Gurgeh to the empire because maybe SC was like "fuck it, we don't have anything for him and he already knows Gurgeh so just send him under cover."

Likewise with Chamlis and Chiark Hub, were they both SC too? They both goaded Gurgeh and pushed him into contact/SC, was it all a big setup? Or was the surface story of the book the actual story that was happening?

>> No.22480272

>>22480204
I'd love to have some suggestions

>> No.22480276

>>22480202
>>22480204
>>22480222
Golem posts. Keep being utterly befuddled as to why quality keeps trending downwards. It clearly must have nothing to do with publishers being staffed by totally different people, and as such pushing works that target a different audience

If something like Zothique were written today it wouldn't be published.

>> No.22480280

>>22480272
you should first explain what you actually like if everything in the last 20 years is bad or whatever

>> No.22480279

Where should one read Lord of the Mysteries? Are there different translations?

>> No.22480283

>>22479946
2015: The Grace of Kings, The Traitor Baru Cormorant, The Providence of Fire
2016: The Road to Hell, The Spider's War, The Last Mortal Bond, Infomacry, Unsouled, Ninefix Gambit, The Wall of Storms, Babylon's Ashes, Six Wake
2017: Six Wakes, The Collapsing Empire, Skullsworn, Bannerless, Assassin's Price, Black Leviathan, Null States, Persopolis Rising

Of the actual nominees, I'd have been fine with the following as better choices:
2016 Ancillary Justice
2017 Ninefox Gambit, Too Like The Lightning, Death's End
2018 literally any of the others

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You retards keep on fighting while i'm here reading comfy old school fantasy from the early nineties

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>>22480276
I guess you're just taking your toys and leaving now, because nobody wanted to mindlessly agree with your uneducated bullshit. You see an infographic and base your entire worldview on it. Immensely sad.

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>>22480287
Fag response. Try and post something genuinely good from the last 20 years, traditionally published.

You can't because it doesn't exist. Best you can get is mediocre, an interesting gimmick but is poorly written, or "decent but can't compare to X older work that is far better". And thats the key; all the best stuff was produced in the past, yet for some crazy reason we haven't been able to produce similar or better since. Its not conspiratorial to suggest this is because of the publishers/changing audience, rather than there no longer being people clever enough to write well.

>> No.22480317

>>22480296
Malazan.

>> No.22480318

>>22480296
If your definition is entirely personal then obviously there's nothing.

>> No.22480320

>>22480296
realm of the elderlings

>> No.22480329

https://www.goodreads.com/genres/fantasy
check the new releases
not a single book written by a guy
even the charlie one is a girl

>> No.22480333

>>22480317
That isn't well written tho. It also suffers from a really gay magic system.
>"I'm a 100,000 year old immortal who can blow up volcanos"
>"... i-is that whiskeyjack, him and his marines- err I mean bridgeburners are so badass and stoic!"
Its WoT tier. Just 'eh' really.
>>22480318
I'm open to being proven wrong. Its not like I know of everything written in the past 20 years. Just haven't encountered anything that reaches the same heights as older stuff. But saying that upsets people, for some reason.

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>>22480329

>> No.22480337

>>22480333
Thanks for reinforcing the fact that people can safely disregard your opinions.

>> No.22480354

>>22480329
That's a very limited and curated source. There are male authors with books this month. I don't know if you're ignorant, disingenuous, or both.

>> No.22480360

>>22480333
By what criteria are determining that it doesn't reach the same height?

>> No.22480368

>>22480329
https://www.tor.com/2023/09/06/new-fantasy-books-september-2023/
This is still partial and biased, but plenty of male authors.

>> No.22480381

>>22480180
>hyperborean spirit
FAGGOT

>> No.22480389

>>22480296
The Babylonian trilogy by Seb Doubinsky

>> No.22480396

>>22480329
Matters not since Bakker concluded fantasy genre and all thats left is to wait till No-God. I'm reading sci-fi only these days.

>> No.22480398

>>22480354
I am both

>> No.22480400

>>22480329
>Goodreads
Yes anon, terminally-online twitter women is the target audience of Goodreads, that doesn't mean anything.

>> No.22480401

>>22480360
The same criteria every other human being uses; my own aesthetic sensibilities.

>> No.22480408

>>22480401
Ok, then it all comes down to whether anyone can believe that you're being sincere about being open to be proven wrong. Anyone who doesn't think so has no reason to try to engage with you in any meaningful way otherwise.

>> No.22480414

>>22480333
>for some reason
literal autism if you don't know why

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I wish there were more romance books that panders to men. We have harem, some standalones here and there and romance as subplot basically. I've been searching things to read in these romance for women communities but there's always that things that screams "oh well this is definitely for women".
At least with scifi and fantasy we sometimes get good stuff like empire of vampires and the expanse

>> No.22480435

>>22480279
Not unless someone's put up a MTL version
webnovel.com is the translation and sites like https://www.lightnovelpub.com/novel/lord-of-the-mysteries-wn-30071448 have a 'pirate' version of it.
Then you can use a converter like webtoepub to turn all of it into an epub and stick that on your ereader

>> No.22480436

>>22478169
Post body

>> No.22480449

>>22480368
>senlin ascends author has a new series
>but the blurb reads like a tv show pitch
ffs

>> No.22480489

>>22478947
I found his ridiculous overuse of said bookisms very distracting.

>> No.22480573

Daily remainder it’s been a decade since Erikson published ‘The Crippled God’, the tenth and final book in his Malazan Book of the Fallen epic, which with its completion set a new high watermark for literature in general, never mind just fantasy literature.

>> No.22480585

>>22480435
Thanks friend, I loved Cradle so I want to read some of the genre that inspired it.

>> No.22480659

>>22480449
Im still gonna read it. The Babel quadrilogy is pure KINO

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>>22480449
>>22480659
2 weeks babelchads
we're going home

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>>22480431
>romance books that panders to men

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>>22480715
>romance books that panders to men

>> No.22480816

>>22480712
Based. I remember shilling Babel here for half a year or so because it was just too /gigacomfy/ of a read for my bros to miss it

>> No.22480864

>>22480715
>>22480735
There's nothing wrong with that

>> No.22480926

Best noir fantasy novel?

>> No.22480935
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This is actually amazing

>> No.22480986

>>22480935
FUCK he's good

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>>22480431
come home western man

>> No.22481037

>>22481019
I hate japshit

>> No.22481047

>>22481037
Current japshit is exactly the same as westshit.

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Lovecraft is top kino.

>> No.22481077

>>22481047
We get it anon, You hate modern fantasy. Go read old books or shut up you piece of shit i hate you touch grass sneed

>> No.22481081

>>22481074
Lovecraft would probably make blacked threads on /gif/

>> No.22481143

any books with a heavy emphasis on strange/alien plant and insect life, preferably also being a main focus of the story? been recently researching mycology and entomology and want something to scratch the itch

>> No.22481169

Good to know /sffg/ is just as waspy as always lol

>> No.22481266

>>22481077
I didn't say that

>> No.22481347

>>22481037
What're you doing on this site, then?

>> No.22481359

>>22477230
This faggot is such a lame niggerlover.

>> No.22481371

>>22481347
It's an american website

>> No.22481393

>>22481143
Brandon Sanderson as a whole

>> No.22481409

>>22481143
stormlight
there's lot of weird rocky shit in the books

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>>22481143
Reverend Insanity

>> No.22481462

Rate my ChatGPT-generated fantasy conversation:

*****

Spearman: "Yo, alchemist, you be dealin' in potions and whatnot, ain't ya?"

Alchemist: "Indeed, noble spearman. I possess elixirs of the arcane, potent brews for the discerning seeker."

Spearman: "Well, I heard 'bout this 'ere potion that makes a man stronger than a war horse. I want me one of those, and I ain't lookin' to be broke in the process, feel me?"

Alchemist: "Ah, you seek the Elixir of Brawn, a rare elixir of great power. But it comes at a cost, my good sir, for the ingredients are scarce and mystical."

Spearman: "Don't give me that mystical mumbo-jumbo, wizard. I got coin, and I want that potion."

Alchemist: "The ingredients, noble warrior, include the heartwood of a sacred oak and the tears of a phoenix. They do not come cheap."

Spearman: "Look here, magician, I ain't leavin' empty-handed. We can make a deal, can't we?"

Alchemist: "A deal, you say? Very well, I propose a wager. I shall challenge you to a contest of wits. If you prevail, you shall have the Elixir of Brawn for half the price."

Spearman: "You think you can outsmart me, huh? Fine, I accept your challenge."

[The alchemist and spearman engage in a contest of riddles and arcane conundrums, each trying to outwit the other.]

Alchemist: "Ah, noble spearman, it appears I have bested you in the realm of intellect. The Elixir of Brawn shall be yours at the agreed-upon price."

Spearman (grudgingly): "You got me this time, magician. Hand over that potion."

[The alchemist produces the Elixir of Brawn, and the transaction is completed, leaving the spearman both humbled and in possession of the coveted elixir.]

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The charges, officer?

>> No.22481666

When will we see literature that is both not derivative of Tolkien and not blatant political propaganda? Is the genre dead?

I started getting into several years ago and relished in finding hidden gems. Now I have no hope of finding anything.

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The Simulacra has been dull so far. The angle of the First Lady's husbando being fake (one of several simulacra in question) and it being a secret to the lower class is an interesting angle. The concept of makeshift 'junkyard' rockets that barely get you to Mars as a thing in the world is very Dickian.
Which title should I reread next? Assume I've read all of his work; I've read at least 80% I think.

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Read Sword of Bayne. It's a fun (short) trilogy about a barbarian dude who goes through some shit.
Read the Radix tetrad: it has some cool stories like a dude given powers and a quest by some nth dimensional lifeform at the end of time to gather fuel pig manure for this entity while battling cosmic (((zotl)))
Read the Xeelee sequence and the Great Ship series.
I wish there were anywhere else on the internet in existence to discuss books!

>> No.22481720

>>22478549
I would like to believe that Skel was SC the entire time. One interesting thing to note is that, despite the overt manipulation and blackmail, it all began with Gurgeh's choice to cheat. I also believe Gurgeh was genuinely invested in space YuGiOh, despite the ability to escape at any time. He was always glanded, and hyperfocused on studying the game--even studying before he arrived obviously. Wasn't Gurgeh heavily implied to be the best game player in the Culture?
Player of Games isn't one of my favorite scifi novels but I'd guess it's my favorite Culture story. Hydrogen Sonata was fun for the ship emphasis -- and I may read Excession excerpts for that same experience, despite already knowing the twist -- while Look to Windward had some rare concepts such as the entire red-herring of the researcher on the gigalithine entity.

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>>22481666
See >>22481077

>> No.22481827

>>22481703
>The Simulacra
The ending is the best part and the idea that presidents are literal puppets is VERY based

>> No.22481848

>Finish reading a book
>Need to look for another book to read
FUCK I hate this part. Anyone got some good recommendations for classic fantasy, or anything with a similar feel.

People like Lord Dunsany, Poul Anderson, William Hope Hodgson, Jack Vance, and the like. I just finished reading Lud in the Mist and thought it was charming.

>> No.22481856

>>22481848
William morris

>> No.22481900

>>22481856
Should I start with The Wood Beyond the World?

>> No.22481907

>>22481143
Annihilation actually does focus on fucked up plant life as a good part of the setting; I would not read past the first novel of the trilogy however.

Semiosis is a more recent duology that focuses on colonization in a world where the plant life seems to either actively aid or hinder the colonists.

Teranesia is hard science fiction that starts off with unforeseen mutations in butterflies

>> No.22481926

>>22480935
it's garbage and retroactively ruined botns for me

>> No.22481932

>>22480431
Well there is Bakker if you're a rapist... and gay.

>> No.22481938

>>22481926
No, it's actually amazing.

>> No.22481952

I mostly just use amazon "similar items" to find books. While looking for fantasy there are so many porn/harem books shitting up the search. I assume most of these are absolute trash, but I'm at a point where I might give it a shot. If you had to recommend 1 of these harem fantasy type books to someone who has never read something like them what would it be?

>> No.22481969

>>22480431
You unironically have to read more female authors. Is Lois McMaster Bujold male? No. But she understands that what we need and crave are cute women being upset that we might be dead.

I unironically think that A Brother's Price, Curse of Chalion, the Penric novels, or Ombria In Shadow have a lot of appeal for the man who's lucky enough to find them in his shelf.

>> No.22481971

>>22479901
A Chinese restaurant menu riddled with typos is better written than this.

>> No.22481993

>>22481462
far far better than chinkshit

>> No.22482079

>>22481900
That or Glittering Plain

>> No.22482096

My normie mate really reckons I should read red rising. Is it as trash as i think its gonna be

>> No.22482152

>>22482096
No.

>> No.22482186

>>22482096
It's worth reading but its also the worst book in the series, which gets better with every book after that.

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>>22481848
pic related or start with Legend by the Gemmell as well.

>> No.22482408

>>22481143
Darwinia by Robert Charles Wilson

>> No.22482605

>>22481566
One of the words that Tolkien worked on for the OED (then NED, N as in New) was wariangle. The word wariangle is used by Chaucer. Hyperion's structure is based on The Canterbury Tales. Between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service engaged in a study to observe the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African-American men in Alabama under the guise of receiving free health care from the United States government.

>> No.22482656

>>22481993
What's with anti chink rhetoric? are you a black or indian? Did chinks fuck in the ass?

>> No.22482843

>>22482656
cultivation and dabbing on school children as a 1000 year old spirit in a body of a child is peak cringe

>> No.22482888

>>22477987
>Read Azarinth Healer,
I get that this was one of the earliest RR hits but I cannot get over how fucking bad it is. I've never read anything successful that was this badly written before and the version I tried was the edited and revised amazon one so god knows how bad the original is.

>> No.22483092

>>22482888
What made it successful was its constant action and progression, and plenty of regularly produced content. If you can do that you are already doing better than the majority of web serials. The quality of the writing is seen as far less important to a RR reader if you can do the rest well.

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>>22480431
read farseer trilogy. It's sort of a sad miserable romance but that should be right up your alley considering youre a 4channeller. I enjoyed it

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/sffg/ should just be called Speculative Fiction General, as horror and romance belong here

>> No.22483165

>>22483153
horror tends to attract its own set of readers who don't read much sf or f for whatever reason.
You also seem to get less crossover from sff to horror.

Like I've got no issue with it being in here but it definitely feels like the most separate of all the spec fic genres

>> No.22483210

>>22481952
Even the best ones I'd say are pretty trashy. Some are trashy in a deliberately pulpy way, though. Bruce Sentar's stuff is at least 'competently written', though I have my issues with him just kinda reusing characters sometimes. I dunno what people would say is his best series, but I guess give Dao Divinity a look?

>> No.22483360

>>22478549
One thing I dislike about Banks' Culture series is that he falls in love with the titular Culture and never allows them to be credibly threatened. CP had the illusion of it and some ethical conversation, but as the series goes on it becomes the equivalent of the CIA doing wacky adventures in third world country with no personal stakes.

>> No.22483477

>>22483360
That was kind of the point. The first book set a bad precedent. It wasn't a series about galactic warfare. It was about a utopian society that tried to find ways to deal with the boredom.

>> No.22483488

>>22483120
>Fitz's cute gf becomes the personal cumdump of his adoptive father
T-thanks

>> No.22483619

Hey, I'm looking for a fantasy series where the hero sets up a new kingdom. Whether from scratch or after the collapse of the older kingdom.

The story is about the struggles of creating and running a kingdom and the politics thereof.

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>>22483619

>> No.22483671

>>22483619
Depends how 'serious' a novel you are after. There is a whole sub-genre of litrpg books that deal with city / nation / civilization building. Just be warned, half of them also contain smut.

>> No.22483717

>>22483619
There's a lot of manga, light novels, and similar that covers this.

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>>22483619
>struggles of creating and running a kingdom and the politics thereof
>Two of Tolkien’s letters explain why he decided not to pursue The New Shadow beyond the 13 pages you can read in chapter 16 of The History of Middle-earth - XII - The Peoples of Middle-earth. Letter 256 has Tolkien explain the basic idea behind the story, with Tolkien realising that he could have written a thriller. Tolkien says that the story would be “just that” and not worth doing. Tolkien was not interested in writing a thriller, and his other works were far beyond just writing a story for the sake of a story. His work was more a place for languages, cultures, history, fables, etc. It’s the creation of the Secondary World, the mythology. While I personally think The New Shadow could have been decades ahead of its time[1], I can understand Tolkien’s reasoning…

>‘I did begin a story placed about 100 years after the Downfall [of Mordor], but it proved both sinister and depressing. Since we are dealing with Men it is inevitable that we should be concerned with the most regrettable feature of their nature: their quick satiety with good. So that the people of Gondor in times of peace, justice and prosperity, would become discontented and restless – while the dynasts descended from Aragorn would become just kings and governors – like Denethor or worse. I found that even so early there was an outcrop of revolutionary plots, about a centre of secret Satanistic religion; while Gondorian boys were playing at being Orcs and going round doing damage. I could have written a 'thriller' about the plot and its discovery and overthrow – but it would be just that. Not worth doing.’
What did Tolkien mean by this?

>> No.22483801

>>22483619
There's loads of kingdom builders these days in the web/light novel sphere i.e. Release that Witch, Reincarnated as a Slime.
Merchant Princes is good for a western take, the first book is more of an intrigue novel but the bent of the series as a whole is about industrialising fantasy land

>> No.22483876

How do i get into Clive Barker?

>> No.22483896

>>22483876
Books of Blood

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>> No.22483945

>>22478039
I have a feeling that most of these are trash, but i do like the cover for paranoid mage.

>> No.22483962

>>22483945
paranoid mage is good at first but at critical point it turns into american soap drama. It's a huge dissapointment.

>> No.22484000

>>22477230

I have wasted too much time in my life reading this pinko in search of greatness only to be overwhelmed by the sheer volume of mediocre prose hes inflicted on the world. Please tell me what good you've found because I read the octopus book and it made me wish I never learned to read.

>> No.22484073

Best unreliable narrator books?

>> No.22484115

>>22483962
I get the feeling the author quickly ran out of ideas but keeps the series going only to keep that patreon money rolling in.

>> No.22484205

>>22483120
>>22483488
Don't recommend cuckshit pls thanks

>> No.22484214

>>22482096
Just saw it on tiktok and it seems to just be blatantly obvious communist propaganda, which I don't mind if they're honest about it, so I guess I shouldn't really expect anything more than a borderline satirical caricature of capitalism.
>>22482152
>>22482186
Just tell me on a scale of 1-10 how commie it is.

>> No.22484217

>>22484073
BOTNS I think?

>> No.22484229

Expect a big Winds of Winter update tomorrow on Notablog

>> No.22484232

>>22484073
Book of the Short Sun.
Latro in the Mist.

>> No.22484248

>>22484214
Ah yes, tiktok. That bastion of critical thinking and quality reviews. Just because it contains the word 'red' does not make it any way about communism you fuckwad.

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>>22484205
Excuse me but Memory, Sorrow and Thorn is Cuck kino

>> No.22484261

>>22484249
down syndrome?

>> No.22484294

>>22484248
The sickle imagery was too on the nose. Even the quick no review spoilers I've seen online talk about how there's a class of people stuck on Mars mining an important resource but apparently don't benefit from it. The popular recommend clip of someone reading the second paragraph of the book seems to imply those workers are executed by their overlords/employers and in a comically evil fashion, the family does the deed.
Here's the thing I don't mind commie propaganda but don't lie about it and deny that it is when the people promoting the book online talk about how good of a Marxist fantasy series it is.
Also isn't the fucking main character an untouchable God that's egotistical that's ridiculously overconfident?

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I'd rather read a book about a harem of cute cat girls than read pretentious shit like Bakker. I'm not gonna read a book that tells me I'm a rapist just because I'm a guy.

>> No.22484314

>>22484294
If you want to put it in those terms it's about a kid from the slums who secretly joins the ruling elite of a fascist system seeking revenge only to discover they aren't that bad and ends up joining them instead. It's about as far from Marxist propaganda as you can get.

>> No.22484336

>>22484304
The world is divided into rapists and victims. You made your call

>> No.22484422

>>22484314
Are you telling me there's no ridiculous caricature of capitalism with some eternal working class that's abused? There's no proletariat revolution by said class? The main character isn't seen as a villain or a traitor for switching over to the upper class?
Come on don't lie to me. Growing up in a slum is just about having shitty living conditions, you're still not a slave or property of another person and forever stuck as some dalit shoeshine with zero social mobility. Sure most people will never pull themselves from their bootstraps, there's some real world snobbery, stereotyping and discrimination but it's not like what the reds are, at least from what I've heard of the series.
Do me the courtesy of not being straight up disingenuous next time, someone from another thread let me know that is obvious commie content.

>> No.22484431

>>22484422
> someone from another thread let me know that is obvious commie content.
you are being trolled, or gullible, or both.

>> No.22484441

>>22484431
No, you're being trolled.

>> No.22484447

>>22484441
*shrug* could be

>> No.22484483

>>22481720
>it all began with Gurgeh's choice to cheat
who knows if SC set him up with that idea. Banks constantly flirts with the idea that while Minds CAN read minds, they "don't." Is that true though?? How much do the Minds really give a fuck about humans?

>> No.22484498

>>22482096
>>22484214
not super communist. I just started book 4 and I'm already at the point where I'm like "can the fascists just win already? democracy obviously sucks cock, the world was better at the beginning." It's a very YA series but it's fun and a page turner at parts. The author does some SERIOUS asspulls to make his MC GOD LIKEEEEE 9001 SO COOL, no idea how he is SO fucking intelligent/gifted at everything. so far I think book 1 or 2 were my favorite, a lot of people loved book 3 but for me it was only soso because of the multiple sequential asspulls

>> No.22484499

Swords need sorcery

>> No.22484566

>>22484499
swords don't really make any sense in a world with sorcery
it's like having modern guns but then still having swordfighting units in your army

>> No.22484582

>>22484566
Swords make a lot of sense in a world with sorcery.
There are no real army batles in most fantasy worlds and the spaces in castles are too tight for most magic tricks so swords are the best tools available.

>> No.22484586

>>22484566
>Magic is difficult to perform/learn
>Magic is resource/time-intensive
>Magic is rare
>Magic is just less practical than stabbing in most cases
There, four simple possible explanations for why swords still exist.

>> No.22484596

>>22484586
you're describing wizardry not sorcery :)
and yeah wizards as artillery is a work around but then you're really just writing a "what if trebuchets were a bit better" story.

>> No.22484604

>>22484596
There's also the out-of-universe explanation of "it just is more interesting that way".

>> No.22484625

>>22484596
Wizardly is just the institutional side of sorcery as a practice. You are not making the point you think you are making

>> No.22484642

>>22484566
Unless, of course there is something to level the field. I think The Second Apocalypse is doing a good job at showing how it can be done. Magic is facemeltingly strong, but there is a glaring weakness to weird little spicy rocks.

>> No.22484742

>>22479060
Yeah, i actually think Wolfe's short stories are some of his best work. Especially if that includes FHOC. Maybe I just prefer short stories.

>> No.22484754

>>22484229
I hope you realize that if this isn't true my only recourse is to abuse my infant son.

>> No.22484763

>>22484229
Based on what, your ass?

>> No.22484778

>>22484431
I asked a friend and he agreed and told me the main character leads a fucking rebellion so kys
>>22484498
Someone said the writing style was D&D tier and not GRRM tier to explain it to me since I really liked ASOIAF. It'd probably be a successful show but not the same tier or quality of early GOT. It's fine and I'll give the books a go but I'm really disappointed that there's nothing on the same level as ASOIAF out there that's currently being made.

>> No.22484787

Esmenet's butt! And tummy and thighs!

>> No.22484809

>>22484778
>not GRRM tier
please fucking kill yourself if you're using game of thrones as your reference for """"good writing."""" rest assured that red rising is superior to cringe of thrones..... but with that comment, please just go back to /r/books

>> No.22484828

>>22484809
>rest assured that red rising is superior to cringe of thrones
it isn't, red rising doesn't have the balls to do half of what asoiaf does

>> No.22484835

>>22484828
RR has less balls than hunger games desu

>> No.22484858

>>22477482
Looks like it might be interesting, is it good? What book?

>> No.22484907

>>22484809
In recent years there's literally no series of books that even comes close to depth of ASOIAF. If there's something that can genuinely bring me the half the enjoyment that I got the first time I was reading Cersei's schizo chapters then I'll recommend it to people. If George ever comes around to releasing Winds it'll blow your Hunger Games/Enders Game ripoff back to the corner of everyone's mind for the next decade.

>> No.22484969

>>22484907
I need an older incestous schizo alcoholic gf like cersei

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>>22484809
Funniest post in /sffg/ in years

>> No.22485047

>>22484809
typical that you got the normalfags riled up. look at that newfag with his "newfag starter kit" leo pic, pretending your post is a joke

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Thoughts about Shadow Slave?

>> No.22485179

>>22485131
Fun at first, insufferable once it does the time skip.
(the time skip is so cowardly too, it's just a way to reassure the reader that the arc where the protagonist gets depressed isn't permanent)

>> No.22485182

>redditors telling other redditors to go back to plebbit

>> No.22485239
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I have returned to see if anyone has read my books yet.

>> No.22485247

>>22485239
Is it GRI approved?

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>>22485239
Does it has pretty older ladies?
This too >>22485247

>> No.22485393

>>22485239
We only read xianxia and Bakker here
But for real I have too many books to read on my list already, and I spend lots of time gaming too

>> No.22485402

>>22485131
Ruined by being published on webnovel.com. The author must publish daily chapters or he won't get paid so the story shits itself badly the more you read.
It would be unironically pretty okay ish if it was published on royal road on a less strict schedule and pay pigs paid patreon

>> No.22485403

>>22485393
This but instead of xianxia and bakker it's old fantasy/scifi books and fetish porn

>> No.22485423

>>22485393
I don't know what xinxin is but we do read Bakker

>> No.22485471

>>22485403
I only got 1 recommendation for male fantasy/harem stuff.

>> No.22485474

>>22485402
i saw some people saying since hes from Russia he cant get paid with patreon or RR, something like that

>> No.22485516

>its the play chapter of Claw of the Conciliator
Is this my punishment for BBW queen Holenta’s rape?

>> No.22485559

>>22485516
Isn't Claw just the second book? Sounds to early to get filtered.

>> No.22485576

>>22482656
The constant spamming of the laughable shit that is chinklit has worn out its welcome. They all literally read as if written by a nine year old.

>> No.22485584

>>22483945
Protip: They're all trash.

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>>22485247
I don't know what that means

>>22485322
There are two milves. No gmilves, sorry. Also, neither of them show up until book 2.

>>22485393
Please see the attached image, thank you

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when is this nigga gonna release the next book already

>> No.22485649

>>22485623
is it really got but in africa

>> No.22485653

>>22485649
it has those kinda cultural influences in some the names, but honestly if you swapped them out for more euro sounding ones, there's not a lot of africa in it aside from it being only black people.

>> No.22485654

>>22485516
The play is pure Kino, and a podcast covering BotNS just released a full cast audio version.

>>22485649
Lol no. It's progression fantasy aka shit.

>> No.22485706

>>22485649
Haven't reread it in ages but I thought it was supposed to be more like lanzarote than africa (volcanic shithole with a few fertile areas)
>>22485654
it's not really prog fantasy, he 'grinds' a lot in the first book to get strong but that's it for power ups, there's no continual focus on improvement

>> No.22485742

>>22485623
I read the first book and realised I don't care enough for the second, and later learned he basically didn't actually do much research on African mythology to inspire himself with or anything, so he mostly just took some fantasy stuff he did know and made it broadly African-themed instead. Also I dunno I just found it really hard to take anything too seriously when it was simultaneously trying to be dark and depressing and at the same time trying to be "look how cool using two swords is".

>> No.22485776

>>22485654
>podcast

>> No.22485824

i was next to some old faggot on a 4 hour flight who read malazan book of the fallen for the whole flight. He seemed pretty engrossed, is it actually good? or is it just bait

>> No.22485832

>>22485824
Malazan is a contender for best of the best.

>> No.22485851

>>22485824
You'll either love it or hate it, there is no middle ground. It's a series with hundreds of characters, millions of words and a huge world and mythology you are thrown into without any context or explanation. Some see that as deep and engrossing, others as annoying and confusing.

>> No.22485855

>>22485832
>>22485851
aight I ordered the first one, we'll see how it goes

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Two more months bros. I'm excited

>> No.22485867

>>22485855
If you actively dislike book 1, the series is
>probably
not for you. If you're kinda meh or on the fence about it finish book 2.

>> No.22485921

>>22483801
Yeah, but they're vapid power fantasies. It's out of frustration with Japanese writers that I've come here. I want to see how superior Western writers do the plot.

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Starting this simply because my crush loves it and I want to have something to discuss with her.
What am I in for?

>> No.22485967

>>22485960
self-insert power fantasy for teenage girls.

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>>22485598
>neither of them show up until book 2.
works for me, picked up

>> No.22486237

>>22485239
Fine, I'll read it next.

>> No.22486240

>>22485832
>contender for best of the best
what the fuck is wrong with you

>> No.22486243
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What did he mean by this?
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/3505263657

>> No.22486261

>>22486243
incredibly based

>> No.22486290

Finished Well of Ascension. It was quite cozy and I enjoyed it a lot.

>> No.22486301

>>22486243
just did a bunch of research on this guy. Never heard of him before. Ordering 4 of his books now. Thanks

>> No.22486494

>>22484742
>i actually think Wolfe's short stories are some of his best work
Where do I start?

>> No.22486532

>>22481827
I'm coming up on the ending now. Half an hour to go. I did like the reveal that Nicole was a fake too and I'm enjoying seeing the angle at which Richard Kongrosian's laughably-hyperaware yet psychotic delusions take him. There is a lot of shit going on, even for a Dick story.

>> No.22486597

>>22483477
>It was about a utopian society that tried to find ways to deal with the boredom.
The idea itself conflicts with the setting. It's wildly unrealistic to imagine that the other civilisations (some of whom are more powerful like the Homomda) are happy to allow The Culture to continually expand and mess with lower civilisations at their leisure, with the very open and clear goal of galactic domination.

>> No.22486605

>>22486243
Utterly based

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>> No.22486750

>>22486597
a few of the other equiv-tech civilizations aren't okay with the Culture and its agents. Hydrogen Sonata, Excession, Consider Phlebas, and Matter come to mind. Also, the whole point of Surface Detail is that there is a virtual war going on because the Culture can't just strong arm its way into getting rid of the virtual Hells. While throughout the books there aren't many equiv-tech battles (if any really), the threat is almost always there. Like the other poster said though, a lot of the appeal of the Culture books is the fantasy of being some agent from a super powerful civilization fucking around in some barbarian society where no one can realistically touch you and you're just there having fun while they care a LOT about what is happening. That's the whole point of Player of Games, Gurgeh is there to play a game for fun while the rest of the empire faces chaos and literal extinction if they lose

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>>22482096
I gave up after the MC asspulls:
>Btw I've secretly mastered the ruling elite's style of swordfighting, 100% offscreen, in order to shit on a dude I should be losing to.
Every conflict seems to be resolved with the MC just doing *something* offscreen that allows them to win, or vice versa when the bad guys set him back a step. Makes it hard to give a shit.

I wish there was a middleground between concept sci fi and character sci fi, because so often the former is very dull and the latter better written, but with a pretty flat premise. Something like the Plageuis novel, but set in a more interesting setting than star wars.

>> No.22487250

>>22486666
Is it Fuchsia on the cover? Why does she look Black?

>> No.22487268

>>22477448
books like this?

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>>22486237
Thanks brother <3

>>22485979
Enjoy! You're going to love the shortstack goth necromancer milf

>> No.22487305

>>22485239
>>22487290
No lolis?

>> No.22487357

>>22487305
No! I guess there are a brother-sister pair of ancient wizards trapped in the bodies that they had as children but they're not sexualized because that would be weird and gross. Who do you think I am, Stephen King?