This woke leftist lesbian feminist wants you to read a book

[Anonymous No.22445230]

Read Rationality: From AI to Zombies moids. Recognized I was starting to shill it and created a thread instead. Book is based off blog post threads on less wrong. It’s probably my favorite book and a lot of you like philosophical shit so you’ll like it. Stop trying to dust off old Greek works for insight.

[Anonymous No.22445233]

Rationalists are genuinely the least intelligent nerds on the planet

[Anonymous No.22445243]

>>22445233
I’d dispute that if you were wrong, but you’re not. It is a heavy burden to carry.

[Anonymous No.22445258]

>>22445230
Go back

[Anonymous No.22445266]

>>22445230
Rationalists were kind of a cool little niche of the internet about seven or eight years ago, but now they're just a bunch of weird progressive sexpests who want to tithe you so that they can maximise the global bantu population.

Yudkowsky is the guy who literally argued that if enough people had specks of dust in their eyes that would eventually become worse than a baby being tortured to death. That's how 'rational' they are.

Pure utilitarianism on steroids.

There's maybe two or three 'post-rationalist' people who are interesting, but other than that the entire sphere is dogshit.

[Anonymous No.22445278]

>>22445230
>It’s probably my favorite book
Get the fuck outta here you dumb dumb nigger.

[Anonymous No.22445285]

>>22445266
It is bizarre how many of them are obsessed with sex and hosting sex parties. They fancy themselves to be the thinking social elite, but they are far too autistic to actually execute it

[Anonymous No.22445293]

>>22445230

[Anonymous No.22445299]

>>22445293
This has to be a joke.

[Anonymous No.22445669]

>>22445258
Where to?

>>22445266
I feel like it was more 10+ years ago and
Your response is misleading
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/3wYTFWY3LKQCnAptN/torture-vs-dust-specks

>>22445278
No

[Anonymous No.22445680]

>>22445285
You’re just mad we never invite you

[Anonymous No.22446246]

>>22445230
>Zombies

[Anonymous No.22446272]

>>22445230
>Book is based off blog post threads on less wrong
lmaoooo

[Anonymous No.22446319]

For me, it's the fact that they call themselves "Rationalists", despite clearly being on the "Empiricist" side of the Rationalist-Empiricist debate.

[Anonymous No.22446341]

>>22446319
More than that, they're anglo type bugmanism pushed to eleven.

[Anonymous No.22446546]

>>22446319
You're not obviously familiar with the movement. Many of them are quite radically rationalist and very much concentrate on first-principles theory building.

[Anonymous No.22446548]

>>22446546
*obviously not.

[Anonymous No.22446564]

>>22445230
Fuck your ugly troon ass and the bourgeiosie anti worker shit you sacrificed actual workers for. Total Nomenklatura Death you useless tranny.

[Anonymous No.22446595]

as a pessimist i choose irrationality

[Anonymous No.22447375]

>>22446564
Not trans but don’t worry I’ll still fuck your gf

>>22446595
I thought people who didn’t think were happier and smarter for it.

[Anonymous No.22447398]

>>22445230
>Yudkowsky
Imagine simping for some retarded jew. Couldnt be me.

[Anonymous No.22447421]

>>22445266
Yeah they have a very weird culture and I would not bet on the majority being intelligent or successful - not even ten years ago. The website is dogshit now too, whining about Ukraine getting endless upvotes, actual midwits offering their takes on AI, etc. The CFAR handbook is very useful though.

[Anonymous No.22447423]

>>22445230
as 'woke' is inextricable from 'deeply intellectually dishonest,' I think I'll just ignore you unless and until you articulate a claim or argument, whereupon I may still ignore you if I deem it beneath my attention

[Anonymous No.22447489]

>>22445266
>if enough people had specks of dust in their eyes that would eventually become worse than a baby being tortured to death

wait isn't that supposed to be a satirical critique of utilitarianism not a srs thing

[Anonymous No.22447500]

>>22445230

Who the hell comes out of the LW/SSC rabbithole leftist?

[Anonymous No.22447503]

>>22447398
At least I’m not a fascist piece of shit. Jews are cool.

>>22447421
I’m pro-Ukraine but yeah the place went to hell. Wish I had been there and its heyday instead of here.

>>22447423
>think I'll just ignore you
>responded and commented to let me know which is the opposite of ignoring
Kek

[Anonymous No.22447540]

>>22447503
>posted your desire that I read a particular book
>I elect not to read that book for reasons already stated
>as something this simple apparently needs to be spelled out for you, your request was ignored
are you a representative sample of your ilk?

[Anonymous No.22447658]

>>22447500
>Women
> people who are not 12yo or basement dwelling NEETS

Get out of this echo chamber for a little bit annon you’ll look back on who you use to be and be glad you’re not that person anymore. Growing up using 4chan I got pilled really bad and I’m still probably more conservative than my friends but I’ve grown a lot since back then.

>>22447540
I should start recommending all the right winged books I hate since reverse psychology work so well on you.

[Anonymous No.22447672]

>>22447658
Get raped troon

[Anonymous No.22447831]

>>22446246

[Anonymous No.22447871]

>>22445230
I won't. Rationalists are not only total retards but they don't know anything. It's all huffing and puffing.

[Anonymous No.22448035]

>>22447500
This. Rationalists are notoriously libertarian and in favor of eugenics, leftists call them crypto nazis all the time.

[Anonymous No.22448038]

>Woke lesbian...
Butterfly?

I'm not interested in the lesswrong cult

[Anonymous No.22448040]

If you want a good book read HuWite Identity by J-red Taylor

[Anonymous No.22448085]

>>22445266
>Bantu
Yeah that's my favorite part of rationalism's effective altruism wing. The whole goal is to increase the number of Africans in the world. Which is perhaps literally the most harmful possible thing you could do.

[Anonymous No.22448292]

>>22447500
All these movements fold into funding and campaigning for the good people party.

[Anonymous No.22448323]

>>22445230
I own it but now that you said you’re a “woke leftist lesbian feminist” I’m definitely gonna shelve it idefintely.

[Anonymous No.22448326]

>>22445680
You self invite then proceed with the rape

[Anonymous No.22448331]

>>22447503
>Jews are cool
Gonna need some sauce on that

[Anonymous No.22448332]

>>22448292
Pretty much. Look at Bernie bros

[Anonymous No.22448574]

>>22445230
I hate less wrong. Absurdly biased towards atheism to a dogmatic extent and going “ahhhhh I’m going crazy! I’m literally going insane!!” From hearing about rokos balisk is the gayest bitch shit I’ve heard in my lovely and good life. Especially when that thought experiment is literally just Pascal’s wager but with a secular coat of paint. Unoriginal. That site is literally the gay 4chan Christian stereotype of what an atheist is. Buncha fags. The site owner is arrogant to. Despite doing nothing with his life and having no relevant education he thinks he he can speak authoritatively on quantum mechanics and other nonsense. Mr rational!

[Anonymous No.22448668]

>>22448574
>2023
>still talking about Roko's Basilisk
Nobody _ever_ took that shit seriously. Roko is an idiot and everyone knows it. The only people who latched onto it are people who don't achieve anything with their lives and just sneer all day on Reddit and 4chan, like you I'm guessing.

[Anonymous No.22448678]

>>22448574
>Your religion is not valid
>Roko's Basilisk thing was removed for being so dumb

[Anonymous No.22448710]

>>22448668
>Nobody _ever_ took that shit seriously
This is completely untrue. Yudkowsky himself took it seriously and that is why it was removed. Always remember that 'rationalists' do not communicate honestly, especially with outsiders.

[Anonymous No.22448798]

>>22445285
Intellectual "elites" of all ages and places believed that their unique philosophical insights would allow them to sustainably live out their hedonism. They all end up being wrong and crashing horribly.

[Anonymous No.22448847]

>>22448710
He didn't take it down because he thought it was dangerous, he took it down because parading ideas you think are dangerous is a fucking stupid thing to do whether or not they're actually dangerous.

Fortunately Roko is way too dumb to ever come up with an actually dangerous infohazard.

And rationalists are too autistic to lie, unless you count moldbug among them.

[Anonymous No.22448864]

Y’all are hurting me here

[Anonymous No.22448870]

>>22448847
>He didn't take it down because he thought it was dangerous
Do we really need to dig for quotes? He explicitly said it's dangerous. Not because the it's stupid to publish dangerous ideas, but because that idea specifically was too dangerous to publish.

>And rationalists are too autistic to lie
I didn't say they were lying, and frankly lying is the most primitive form of deception. Either way though, Scott Alexander admitted in private emails that some of his posts aren't purely informative but aimed at achieving an end. Funny that you mention Moldbug because that's who he was defending in those emails.

[Anonymous No.22450263]

>>22445230
Here is my argument against Yudkowsky.

Yudkowsky claims that Rationality is "systematized winning." If this were correct, then he would by now no longer be as unhealthily obese as he actually is. Yet Yudkowsky remains unhealthily obese. Hence Rationality is not systematized winning.

[Anonymous No.22450274]

>>22448668
>>22448678

This gets the history wrong. Consider the following:
>The “extended Roko’s Basilisk” idea that a godlike superintelligence would spend valuable computing power on simulating copies of zillions of past puny humans, purely to punish those copies for their originals' … well … original sin of not having built the superintelligence faster, and the dictum that people should treat these hypothetical future copies of themselves as if they are in fact the themselves who are reading this right now, are actually comical, an absurd caricature of a technology-enabled religious terror. To most.

>But not to some LessWrongers, or to Yudkowsky, who in the comments thundered:

>Listen to me very closely, you idiot. YOU DO NOT THINK IN SUFFICIENT DETAIL ABOUT SUPERINTELLIGENCES CONSIDERING WHETHER OR NOT TO BLACKMAIL YOU. THAT IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE THING WHICH GIVES THEM A MOTIVE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE BLACKMAIL [...] Until we have a better worked-out version of TDT and we can prove that formally, it should just be OBVIOUS that you DO NOT THINK ABOUT DISTANT BLACKMAILERS in SUFFICIENT DETAIL that they have a motive to ACTUALLY BLACKMAIL YOU.

>He then deleted the thread. (When rationalists complain that outsiders fixate on Roko’s Basilisk, which rationalists themselves no longer care about at all, that’s likely true! ... but Yudkowsky’s eruptive reaction, and the resulting Streisand Effect, is the reason why.)

[Anonymous No.22450285]

how many people are active in this subculture? I've heard about people going to meetups

[Anonymous No.22451369]

>>22445266
>>22447489
>Yudkowsky is the guy who literally argued that if enough people had specks of dust in their eyes that would eventually become worse than a baby being tortured to death. That's how 'rational' they are.
How is that at all irrational? Because the baby getting tortured hurts your feelings more than the dist specks?

[Anonymous No.22451376]

>>22451369
>hurts your feelings
yes, that's the essence of morality. If you wanna bash fee fees then I don't want to hear anything but Stirner out of your faggot mouth. In either case, Yiddkowksy is a retard.

[Anonymous No.22451481]

>>22450263
I’m fat to piss people off. That’s literally the only reason.

[Anonymous No.22451569]

>>22451369
>what are threshold effects

[Anonymous No.22451831]

>>22447831
this is awesome anon. ties together many of the ideas I had floating around in my head. thank you so much.

[Anonymous No.22452017]

>>22451569
>what are thought-terminating cliches

[Anonymous No.22453340]

>>22451376
They were straw-men, annon. For everyone here having straw-man arguments. How stupid you are hurts me and I’m not even that smart. Only thing most of you are proving is the treisand effect and that no one on lit reads.

>>22451831
I felt the same way! It’s things that I’ve known but not known how to put words to. And I love the math thrown in.

[Anonymous No.22453352]

>>22453340
Ok let me correct myself. First few comments were good and I responded to them but then it went to shit like every thread here.

[Anonymous No.22453430]

>>22447831
I agree with this, but the word zombies is annoying. Even using NPCs would be less cringe. Or automata like Gurdjieff/Ouspensky

[Anonymous No.22453634]

>>22453352
what are you talking about