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Mandatory warrior woman edition.

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>> No.22435205
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Read it today

>> No.22435206

First for Barid Bel

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Reading Iron Men and Saints. Truly a history book with the soul of a fantasy epic. Obviously the characters can't be as fully developed as a novel, but you get a good feeling for Godfrey, Boehmond, Tancred, etc.

But what really strikes me is how Bakker didn't just "loosely base," Prince of Nothing on the First Crusade but straight up does it blow for blow. Even the names like "Tower of the Dog," are cribbed. All the battle details, how the tide ebbed and flowed, are straight from the actual war. Same with most of the supply issues. The way Antioch is taken is just like Carrascand.

Obviously, there are no rape aliens in the background or sorcerers, but the entire rest of the war is like blow for blow aside from the Arabs and Turks both fighting each other and the Crusaders.

I think Sarbon is supposed to be Tancred, Proias is Godfrey, and Kellhus is a combination of Peter the Hermit, but not disgraced, and Boehmond. There is even an Armenian Turk general involved for Cnauir and the Byzantines sneak into Nicea the same way Conphas does to keep it from a sack. Even the big battle on the marshy river where the Turks raid the Crusader camp is blow for blow .

>> No.22435270

>>22435241
a-at least locke lamora is good..

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>>22435180
Great Work of Time - John Crowley (1989)

Caspar Last has invented a time machine, though he only calls it that out of convenience because it isn't a machine and he doesn't believe that time exists. While there's much he could do with it, he's only interested in using it once to enrich himself. To him, it's all in the research and proof that it works. After that, who cares? It's all proven and doesn't matter any longer and it's onto the next project. As you'd expect, someone else feels differently and acquires the ability to time travel from him. Denys Winterset is approached by a man who offers him to join a time traveling organization that changes the past to their preferences. Originally it was founded by Cecil Rhodes, leader of Rhodesia, for the purpose of furthering the British Empire, but their aims have now changed. They believe Winterset to be integral to their existence, and he is, far more than any of them could ever know.

Crowley is a joy to simply read, even when the actual content isn't all that suited to my tastes, though in this case it was. Time travel is one of my preferred themes and I like to see what sort the author employs. In this case time traveling is orthogonal, meaning the traveler can never return to the exact same timeline they were in and they always travel to one that is slightly different. Due to its peculiarities this results in quite the consequences. The closest other to it that I can think of is the film, Primer, though elements of it can be seen in various other time travel media, ranging from All You Zombies to El ministerio del tiempo. A detailed explanation is given for technical aspects of how the time travel would hypothetically work, though the specific process isn't ever explicitly shown. As happens with time travel stories, the narrative isn't told linearly, and there's some initial obfuscation of identities, though eventually everything is clearly explained to the reader.

In terms of its historical accuracy, it reads very well and is clearly researched, which is evidenced by the bibliography provided at the end. Sometimes (oftentimes?) with science fiction the origin of the book simply seems to be that the author has been deeply researching some area of interest and then decide they want to write about it. I've seen this in a wide variety of works and overall I think doing so enhances their writing with the distinct flavor of their research. That goes from "write what you know" to "write what you learned."

Once again I'd like to thank yitr for suggesting that I read Crowley sooner than later. It's only a matter of time before I'll have read almost all, if not all, of Crowley's fiction. All of his works that I've read so far have had the sort of imaginative novelty that I particularly appreciate. Each one has that special something where even if I didn't enjoy it I can still respect it for what it is. Even his most read work is only mildly known, so I recommend you read him.

Rating: 4/5

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>>22435180
lol, another roastie thread. Let's talk bakker.
Just started The Darkness That Comes Before, what am I in for /lit/bros?

>> No.22435348

>>22435336
>what am I in for /lit/bros?
This is /sffg/ not /lit/

>> No.22435362

>>22435336
Gay rape

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>>22435336
>>22435205
why is it when people tend to post pictures of books it's always with the awful modern paperback aesthetic instead of the superior original hardcover?

>> No.22435413 [DELETED] 

>>22435403
>Why aren't other people me?
>Why would anyone do anything differently than how I do it?
Narcissism
Autism
Choose one or more

>> No.22435415

>>22435300
I'll check this out sometime. I loved The Deep and Engine summer. Have Little, Big to read as well.
He might be one of my favorite authors

>> No.22435441

>>22435336
Greatness.

>> No.22435442

>>22435300
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

>> No.22435462

>>22435415
Yeah, he is rather good. I still have to read that from him as well, among much else. Probably not all of it will be suitable for here so it'll be only in my Goodreads profile. I considered posting the non-sff stuff on /lit/ but decided against it.

>> No.22435474

>>22435362
Based

>>22435403
Because I downloaded the picture from the internet. I have an epub and I don't think it even has cover picture in the file.
It's 2023, nobody cares about "paperbacks", hardcovers. Get with the times, grandpa

>> No.22435475

>>22435403
>Why aren't other people me?
>Why would anyone do anything differently than how I do it?
Narcissism
Autism
Choose one or more.

>> No.22435477

>>22435300
The premise sounds interesting, like some strange satire on Wells. Is it as ironic as it sounds from the description?

>> No.22435490

>>22435413
>>22435475
Kys

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>>22435180
First for female writers and female mcs are based (and cute!)

>> No.22435502

>>22435477
You mean a satire of The Time Machine? No, I don't think so. That was allegorical and this isn't. As for ironic, it's not clear to me what you specifically mean by that in this context. If it is ironic it's the tragic sort.

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>>22435413
Why did you delete your comment?

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>>22435474
>It's 2023, nobody cares about "paperbacks", hardcovers. Get with the times, grandpa
I care. I will never read ebooks/webnovels. Only physical copies in my retarded hands

>> No.22435540

>>22435517
It was insensitive towards people with autism

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just finished this lads. what do we think?

help me choose my next book

The complete Conan the barbarian stories or The dispossessed

>> No.22435547

I'm finishing up The Cyberiad, and I'm actually impressed by the translation. Are all these terrible puns and clever bits of wordplay in the original Polish?

>> No.22435552

>>22435180
I read the Turin chapter in the Silmarillion but now I kinda want to re-read Children of Hurin again , since its been about a decade since last I read it.
Is it even worth it now, or have I essentially spoiled it completely?

>> No.22435555

>>22435552
completely ruined

>> No.22435557

>>22435555
Checked and read xianxia

>> No.22435560

>>22435336
the first 2 pages made me give up instantly

>> No.22435563

My friends, what short stories belong to the Solar Cycle and in what order should they be read?

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Soon...

>> No.22435568

Not sci-fi per say, but you can think of it as an alternative history of what could have been for linux/mac
https://archive.org/details/plan9designintro

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>>22435251
>Peasant deserter claims to have returned because he had visions where Saint Andrew told him to dig up the Spear of Destiny, the lance that pierced Christ's side, in a church in Antioch.
>Actually find rusted out item that could be an old spear point under the church.
>Whips the starving diseased survivors into such a religious frenzy that they abandon the safety of the walls to attack a massive professional army of Turks some 40,000 strong.
>Most of the horses have been eaten (they had just 700 left before taking Antioch when 700 picked elite knights routed a Muslim relief army of almost 7,000). Everyone is starving, cannibalism has started.
>Crazed Crusaders somehow manage to not only win but butcher most of the large host.
>Only one of like six uncanny victories of this sort.
Honestly, no wonder people criticize Bakker as unrealistic. The Crusaders has absolutely stupid plot armor in the First one and should have lost at almost every turn. Literally their greatest asset was not realizing how incredibly outmatched they were and plunging into suicidal attacks over and over. They had a slight advantage in military technology but a massive disadvantage in numbers, leadership (having no real leader), knowledge of the terrain, and planning. Partly they won because they did stupid shit no one expected because they essentially had no clue where they were.

It was literally your classic barbarian advantage. A horde of tribal people from a backwards and warlike race sacking wealthy cities in a large empire.

>> No.22435583

>>22435563
these
https://www.wolfewiki.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=WolfeWiki.TheBrownBook

and the two stories in the same universe are The Map which is collected in Endangered Species as well as The Cat which is in the same short story collection.

>> No.22435597

>>22435569
>A horde of tribal people from a backwards and warlike race sacking wealthy cities in a large empire.
And (((they))) know that this strategy still works to this day.

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>>22435540
When people with autism read the archive and see your post, they will be greatly disappointed in you.

>> No.22435615

>>22435607
1. People with autism shouldn't be on the internet
2. If they are, they should see >>22435568 and get off the internet.

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I'm editing an espionage thriller right now, but I'll be free for sci-fi soon. Let me know you're from /lit/ and I can hook you up with a discount. https://www.fiverr.com/matthewg42

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>>22435569
The nobility and the Pope's warrior bishop didn't actually buy into the Spear of Destiny thing. It was mostly the men at arms and peasant followers. But the combined Turk and Arab host fucked up badly by rejecting terms.

Peter the Hermit offered for the Crusaders to just pack up and leave in exchange for peace. The Muslims, not sure of how many more Franks might show up (thinking them more numerous than they really were due to the size of the initial army), wanted a strong moral victory to preclude any future war. This, the only terms they offered were that they reject Christianity in favor of Islam. Then they would be given lands and titles in the empire and could be used as quality shock troops against Byzantium and the Persians.

Unfortunately, this was a huge misstep. It convinced the nobility that God was testing them and they decided to fight to the death instead.

As it turns out, having God on your side, or being sure God is on your side, can lead to some lopsided upsets. Pic related with Jewish militia crushing Alexander's successors being a good example.

>> No.22435649

Where are my bad ass female (male) mcs?
>The men, misunderstanding the girls’ silence for shyness, began to grow excited and a slightly crazed look entered their eyes. One of the men took a step forward and grabbed Ellis’s arm.

>“Don’t be shy little missy. This uncle won’t bite.”

>Everything moved at once.

>Frau suddenly cried out, “Appropriate Defense Confirmation Application!”

>Almost immediately a worker from behind the reception desk responded, “The guild has confirmed the application as legitimate self-defense!”

>In an instant, Ellis activated her new Sleep ring and knocked out the man clutching her arm. Reeve moved behind the first man who had called out to them and struck the back of his head with her shamshir’s handle and knocked him out as well. Frau was much less gentle and bashed in the face of the last man with her kite shield, knocking him flat on his back.

>To that sight, everyone eating in the guild hall started to cheer and laugh. A guild official came out from the back of the hall during the ruckus and looked down at the three unconscious men.

>“So, what are you going to do to them?”

>Ellis thought about it for a moment before a brutal smile crossed her face. Reeve was also thinking up some mischief and crossed her arms in front of her chest while considering various punishments. It seems that since this used to be Frau’s home, they would allow just about anything.

>After gathering together and debating about it amongst themselves, the three finally came to an agreement over a punishment that would satisfy all of them.

>The Adventurer Guild Master, who’s precious daughter was also attacked, signed off on the punishment while laughing.

>First, the three men’s clothes were peeled off of them, and when they were completely naked, Ellis tied them up with a rope. After that, they were hung upside down on the guild’s eaves outside and had reddish dye thrown on them from up above. A butterfly knot with gold, blue, and red ribbons was carefully tied to them, and it was decided that these people would be left in this embarrassing position for a whole day.

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looking for novels with a post-nuclear apocalypse setting that go into a lot of detail when it comes to describing environments (especially deserted, destroyed cities). does any such thing exist or is it too specific?

>> No.22435704

>>22435694
You don't need a novel fallout already solved this. You can get the lore book too but it's whatever

>> No.22435715

>>22435545
If you want LeGuin taking a slightly more cynical look at the left in the vein of what an eternal revolution would actually look at, go for Dispossessed. If you want a refreshing dip into thrilling tales, go Conan.

The Left Hand of Darkness was both a genesis and a damnation of modern science fiction. It's one of the kickstarters of modern reflection on social mores and realities via a fantastical premise, but it also shows how possible it is to have a feminist work with actual characterization and plot. Say what you will about the intentions and ideologies, Estraven and Ai are well written, interesting characters and we see how the concepts at play mold both those within the strange society and without.

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Kino.
Absolute Kino.

>> No.22435730

>>22435362
I’m like 6 pages in and I’ve already got pedo rape

Good.

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>>22435726

>> No.22435763

Just remember that fang yuan is the mc of reverend insanity and you won't be bamboozled

>> No.22435783

rereading malazan but i hate udinaas so much i cant finish reapers gale. i need to find something else. jesus what a shit character

>> No.22435792

>>22435783
>rereading malazan
brutal

>> No.22435827

>The first customer was a beautiful woman of about middle-age, but because Ellis was not interested in milfs, she did not get excited.
BASED

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>>22435827
SAD!

>> No.22435835

Started grinding my hard cock on my bed as I imagined myself raping my ex. Books for this feel?
Almost finished with Richard Laymon

>> No.22435837

>>22435831
AND YOU CALL PEDOS MENTALLY ILL

>> No.22435847

>>22435536
That Samuel Chamberlain is probably worth the entire shelf worth of books now.

>> No.22435852

>>22435837
Older women unironically know how to please better than most women, especially little girls who don’t know how to prostate massage and suck dick yet. Best handjob I had was from a 60 year old who massaged me first.

>> No.22435859

>>22435852
LGs are fast learners, an old woman will act incapable for the rest of her life if she doesn't know how to do something.

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>stable job
>escaped from a spiral of self hatred that tormented me in my 20s
>free time is spent doing things I like, such as reading haremlit and all kinds of fantasy stories
Despite everything, I'm still alive and going.

>> No.22435979

I'm on chapter 9 of the Darkness that Comes Before. I'm hooked.

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>>22435861
Same but i don't read haremlit.

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>>22435694
It's been forever since I've read it, but maybe Swan Song by Robert McCammon. It's during and immediately after a nuclear war, though. I think maybe you're wanting something that's a few generations after?

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>>22435831

>> No.22436235
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BORN TO CANT
CONSULT IS A FUCK
鬼神 Kill Em All 4132 Year-of-the-Tusk
I Am Mandati Man
478,637,782 CULLED SRANC

>> No.22436244

>>22436235
sanest xianxia poster

>> No.22436261

I feel that we should define what constitutes science fiction and fantasy and what does not.

>> No.22436264

>>22436261
Does speculative fiction encompass both?

>> No.22436276

>>22436264
no, science fiction can be realistic or based on not yet fully accepted theories.

>> No.22436284

>>22436264
No. Fantasy is often realistic, for example many vrmmorpg novel.

>> No.22436315

read your machine translated xianxia

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Picked these up at the local bookstore, which was so messy that books were stacked on top of sinks and randomly on cluttered shelves. I saw a lot of mouldy, random Wheel of Time copies, lots of Feist paperbacks, and Arthur C. Clarke 2001 A Space Odyssey sequels. Glad I found some sci fi kino in the mess.

>> No.22436343

>>22436335
Is Cixin Liu's prose good in Chinese?

>> No.22436356

>>22436343
I have forgotten most of my Mandarin despite studying it twice in schooling.
I’d say “prose” is hard to translate into Sino-Tibetan languages though, since most of what I’ve understood from their literature depends on parallel, contrast, and imagery in their poetic works. You can see this even in their modern poetry.
I’d say their prose would just be plain language, honestly. It’s harder to bridge poetry and plain language in other languages; English is weird because we draw from Germanic, Romance, and Greek, so it’s easier to have “meaning” density and different “shades” to choose from. Sadly, Mandarin and Cantonese really just draw from the same ancient ideograms and don’t really have more than a limited vocabulary. Although I’m sure you could find examples where characters have different meaning depending on tone and particles.

>> No.22436357

>We want diverse voices in sff
>same progressive politics that the best sellers and hugo awards have been shitting out since the 60s, but with an foreign name on the cover.
>shits on real Chinese genres like xianxia having not even read the requisite 50,000 chapters

>> No.22436382

>>22436356
Is that why you see so many of the same sort of phrases in translated Chinese works? They just are so often saying these same things?

>> No.22436390

>>22436382
I think different parts of China have different turns of phrases, but they generally wouldn't have room for variation for most things. Even though different "dialects" of Chinese may be not fully intelligible, they're all based on the same ancient language system. You can even find cave paintings of most simple characters. The first they teach you is "sun" which is just a circle over a tree.

>> No.22436400

How long before you guys think scientists invent spacial storage?

>> No.22436413

>reading bakker
>“My name is Ichiro Tamon. I am not gay. I am super gay.”
>“My name is Jiro Hyoe. I am not gay. I am super gay.”
>“My name is Saburo Tayu. I am not gay. I am super gay.”
>"My name is Shiro Tokisada. I am not gay. I am super gay.”
>My name is Goro Meiko. I am not gay. I am super gay.”

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Read it today

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Read it on this day

>> No.22436424

>>22436417
what is 343 in factorial radix?

>> No.22436440

>>22436424
I ain't no mathematician.

>> No.22436445

>>22436440
241010. Did you not read the book?

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>>22435180
>love sci-fi and fantasy
>not a linguist
>consider myself fairly educated on American/European history and cultures
>draw on these when it comes to names, be it for people, places, technology, etc.
>end up making all my names puns of some kind
I want to write a story and a livable world, but I have absolutely zero interest in creating in-depth languages for a story that's going to be written in English. Tolkien studied language his entire life and wrote a world born from his studies; I did not study language and would rather play to my strengths than write a pale imitation of Tolkien. When writing names, I have a tendency to read up on name origins and meanings and make puns off them when possible, or I end up doing what Dickens did with his names. I find its not only more entertaining for me, but it helps me keep track of who's who in my outline.

Are there any other writers who've done similar to what I'm describing?

>> No.22436453

>>22436445
>Did you remember a random numerical string from a book you've read?
I sure have not and do not.

>> No.22436457

>>22436453
retard
div=1
while [ $wn -ne 0 ]
do
rem=$((wn % div))
printf "$rem"
wn=$((wn / div))
div=$((div+1))
done | rev
echo

>> No.22436458

>>22436447
>Tolkien
You don't need to copy how he used constructed languages. You can also just have in story reasons for why everyone speaks the same tongue, or maybe there is a magical thing that makes you understand every language like Douglas Adams' Babel Fish.
>Are there any other writers who've done similar to what I'm describing?
Terry Pratchett's names are mainly puns on tropey characters.

>> No.22436460

>>22436457
I don't know what you are looking for but thanks for bumping my post about a book I like.

>> No.22436461

Does sffg suscribe to the moon landing theory?

>> No.22436470

>>22436460
3515111151928259163301010
Largest 64 bit signed integer in factorial form

>> No.22436489

>Japanese mc reincarnated into medieval western world
>"What is this delicious food called!"

>> No.22436498

>>22436489
My favorite part in every isekai I've read is when the MC and his crew goes around town and tries out all the local foods and meets the town weirdos. Usually that happens within the first volume, and everything is just downhill from there.

>> No.22436505

>>22436417
Honestly, not that good

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>that part where a rice queen is saved from being molested by a swiss army knife robot controlled from a brain in a box by uplifted communist spaceship mechanic gorillas and orangutans

what the fuck is reynolds problem?

>> No.22436563

Who are your Top 3 asstr authors? lg edition.
Alvo Torelli
Devil's Advocate
danaumerook

>> No.22436574

>hugo awards 2023
>90% lgbtq and bipoc trash
Every time.

>> No.22436576

>>22436574
Most of them aren't going anyway, because they're protesting based China's "genocide" of Booger mudslimes.

>> No.22436609

>>22436563
This isn't the right place to talk about this. They probably aren't even sff related, let alone everything else.

>> No.22436665

>>22436447
>Are there any other writers who've done similar to what I'm describing?
JK Rowling

>> No.22436691

>>22436609
all of them have writen an sff, more than you could say for bakker. What is "everything else", you talk like a bigot.

>> No.22436707

>>22436665
Harry potter is not a livable world, nothing makes sense if you can teleport just teleport a giant bolder above voldemort compound and have it completly destroy him before it reacts, then gather up and kill all the horocruxes. horocruxes are nonsense too, there would be millions of immortal dark wizards if that was possible.

>> No.22436729

>>22436707
And yet everyone has funny names.

>> No.22436738

>>22436707
Also this shit doesn't even make sense.
>Go to school for years and research complicated magic that has thousands of years of history
>go even deeper into twister darkarts. With spells that are impossible to perform without years of training
>Get hit by a killing curse and your soul that was weakened from making 5 horocruxes splits itself and makes another one
WHAT?

>> No.22436797
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for librarything do i have to leave the page on this screen or something? it's been literally a week since i signed up and it still hasn't calculated my recommendations

>> No.22436831

>>22436447
No. no one else, you are unique special snowflake

>> No.22436864
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>>22436831
Come at me brah

>> No.22436876

>>22436864
are you like 45 years old what is going on

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>>22436876

>> No.22436930

There was this fantasy web novel, I forgot the name, but basically a single adventure guild management worker with a 7 year old daughter gets a new wife (big tits, small waist, big ass) to take care of the daughter while he is away on business but the daughter is a spoiled sadist (who likes bossing around and twisting her new mom's nipples) and she awakes the mothers masochist side.
Does anyone know the name of the novel?

>> No.22436986

>>22435694
Necroepilogos

>> No.22437022

>>22435715
thank you anon for your well thought out answer

>> No.22437029

>>22437022
If chopping up and shitting out feminist talking points and back of the book blurbs is well thought out to you then you haven't read enough.

>> No.22437101

>>22435847
a year ago it was easy to find online now it's triple the price and rare. What the fuck happened?

>> No.22437133

>>22435861
based

>> No.22437172

>>22435861
Recommend me some well-written haremlit for coomers.

>> No.22437173

>>22437101
Interest surged because of Cormac McCarthy releasing new books and dying, as well as the Blood Meridian adaptation they’re making.

>> No.22437174

>>22437173
>Blood Meridian adaptation they’re making
no stop that's gay

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>>22436447
>>not a linguist
Then don't do it. There's barely any authors who did what Tolkien did out there, and they spent a LONG time doing so as well.

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>>22436574
there's few surprises that flew under the radar like nettle and bone, but I do find it comedic how all these lgbtq elements in the stories are VERY much token addition authors put in to get noticed.

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>>22435403
I assume people post images of the versions they own. Those are the easiest to get these days.

>> No.22437256

>>22437214
Tolkien didn't do shit retard. Stop falling for hype. Myths have existed for tens of thousands of years.

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22437349

Wattobros... we get the worst representation of our based flying jew alien in the Star Wars novels, and it's only in a shitty YA novel called Queen's Peril... It's so over....

>> No.22437413

>>22436413
How deep in the closet is Bakker?

>> No.22437426

I just saw r/menwritingwomen and I feel like I am going to puke. Why do men (in highly acclaimed books) get away with writing complete perverted lunacy. If I wanted to read erotica I would read erotica, don't bring up a woman "pulsing" her vaginal muscles in a normal conversation in an otherwise normal scifi book. It's exhibitionism at best and rape at worse.

>> No.22437452

>>22437426
>Why do men (in highly acclaimed books) get away with writing complete perverted lunacy
Lack of effective disincentives.

>> No.22437466

>>22435792
only the ten books in the main series, cant even finish a single esslemont book. but yes, im desperate

>> No.22437512

>>22437426
nothing wrong with doing kegels throughout the day

>> No.22437522

Any recs of some comfy sci fi I can read to get in the mood for Starfield? Something I can read within a week or so? I've been reading a lot of Nathan Lowell stuff but I'm kind of burnt out on his books. They were good, if a bit immature.

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>>22437426

>> No.22437526

>>22437524
>an air of breeding
I need to say this to my co-worker. She'll love it.

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>>22437526
Corner her at work and stare at her gazoombies, then exclaim: "MILLKKKKKKKKK!"

>> No.22437540

>>22437426
>>22437524
>>22437533
Only subreddit worth going on to look for recs.

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>>22437540
It's funnier when they completely disregard cultural differences and decide that only chud men could hold these views.

>> No.22437544

>>22437543
? But cixin is a chud? You realize china is under a marxist government right? I think they know what sexism is.

>> No.22437550

https://files.catbox.moe/ahahmg.jpg
>Putting blacks in your novel
ISHYGDDT

>> No.22437551

>>22437543
i wonder how they took one of the themes of the third book being that women are weak and stupid

>> No.22437558

>>22437544
>You realize china is under a marxist government right?
So what? I don't want to take any stance but even Engels and Marx are seen as chuds by contemporary "Marxists" in the West because they both thought women were inferior to men.
>I think they know what sexism is.
Nearly no women in China own the houses they live in. They don't take up influential positions in the CCP nor at companies. Men own property outright. Even if women get educated now, it doesn't translate to higher pay at all. Chinese women mainly cook, clean, and look after kids. They are basically still living in pre-60s Western standards, even if they use memes about women "holding up half the sky".

>> No.22437566

>>22437558
>China is now home to two-thirds of the world’s top women self-made billionaires, four times more than the US, Hurun research institute reveals
COPE

>> No.22437568

>>22437566
And yet 99% of Chinese women own nothing.

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>> No.22437572

>>22437568
China has 7 million millionaires. ~Half of them are women (in the us only 33% are women)

>> No.22437579

>>22437572
>7 million millionaires
Out of 1.412 billion people, which means 0.5% of Chinese women own something. Still, 99% of Chinese women own nothing.

>> No.22437583

>>22437569
Is Fang Yuan a sigma male?

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>>22436797
>leave on the page
no. got mine very quick and the notification for it, and I don't even have an email on the account.
maybe relog?

Home tab > Recommendations
the "new system" ones are the top 2 categories

>> No.22437586

>>22437579
or >1% if you know that not everyone in china is a woman. And much higher when you realize that many single women have 100,000 - 900,000 dollars which is fairly wealthy.

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>>22437586
>or >1%
No. 7 million divided by 2 is 3.5 million. 3.5 million out of 1.412 billion is 0.25% rounded up. I said 0.5% to be generous. You are bad at math, so I'm assuming you're black.

>> No.22437598

>>22437594
14 million millionaires, half of them are women*

>> No.22437603

>>22437598
So it's still 0.5% kek. You really shouldn't be here, darkie.

>> No.22437613

>>22435694
swedish book Arkeologen that i read recently. But it's in swedish so i guess you're out of luck.

>> No.22437617

>the webnovel meta as for today is writing (often gender bent) women doing gay things while traveling
Damn, since when Americans became so gay?

>> No.22437622

>>22437603
Half of 1.4 billion is 700 million. 1% 7 million. You outed yourself as a black woman.

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How did you sisters even get through Asimov's Foundation series?

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>>22437533
I'm camp bazongas, personally. Or torpedo tits.

>> No.22437635

>>22437622
You keep changing what you're talking about nigga. First you said half of 7 million. Then you said half of 14 million. Then you changed it from % of the population to % of females. Learn how to think.

>> No.22437650

>>22437635
No you. 7 Million chinese women are millionaires. That means more than 1% of chinese women are millionaires which was the point.

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>>22437650

>> No.22437687

>>22437522
How comfy are we talking? you could try Through Struggle, the Stars by John Lumpkin, or Cryptum by Greg Bear

>> No.22437741

>>22437579
>Still, 99% of Chinese women own nothing.
>>22437668
Is this you? Why make obviously bullshit claims? China is a haven for women. Women are leading the xianxia movement into the future. You can keep your head in the sand; or you can come up and read BL xianxia

>> No.22437767

https://files.catbox.moe/uu5qyr.webp
Yup this one made women seethe.

>> No.22437788

>>22437767
This is just dumb

>> No.22437800

>>22437788
You don't talk to very many women then, do you.

>> No.22437803

It's okay when troons do it
https://files.catbox.moe/p3hzuu.jpg

>> No.22437821

>>22437800
I don't, really.

>> No.22437825

>>22437788
Much like the objects of the description, then.

>> No.22437880

>>22436519
Got too space opera-like. Chasm City and the Perfect are great.

>> No.22437899

>>22435536
Based Lafferty enjoyer.

>> No.22437923

>>22437741
>Is this you?
Yeh that's my face. What of it?
>China is a haven for women.
Is that why every prostitute I've fucked is a Chinese sex slave?

>> No.22437972

https://files.catbox.moe/x2c79n.webp
Imagine seething over martial world. Imagine seething about this more than 2000 chapters into the book. All this line is saying is that her body refinement cultivation (early true divinity) sucks compared to her normal cultivation and soul forging. Which is in stark contrast to others of the saint race which are famous for their body cultivation

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>>22435180
Now Will Machines Hollow The Beast, Machine Mandate #2 - Benjanun Sriduangkaew (2020)

Admiral Anoushka, known as the Alabaster Admiral, is a mercenary captain feared and respected throughout the galaxy. Even so, she has a favor to repay to a haruspex, a human-AI hybrid from the Shenzhen dyson sphere. That's where The Mandate resides, a collection of AI that could control everything, but chooses not to at this time. To that end she attends a bidding war at Vishnu's Leviathan, a massive biomechanical warship with extreme warfare capability. Larvae have been made available that in a few decades could develop into warships of similar power. The warring factions all want to be the highest bidder. What ought to be a relatively simple affair becomes complicated by enemies from the past long thought dead or irrelevant appearing once more. There are also simmering conflicts between members of the royal family.

This novella is in the same setting as first one, as are a few others that aren't numbered, but aside from that there's minimal overlap. Probably each one could be read standalone though I haven't confirmed that. The plot is straightforward, simple, and doesn't really matter all that much. How the characters interact with each other is what matters. Mostly it's their drama and the power dynamics thereof. As per the author's usual, all the characters are women. Men have little to no place in her writings. I don't mind that for her works.

Anoushka has two wives who vie for her affection and she has sex with both of them, though not at once, as they aren't friendly with each other. There are four sex scenes, and if there were much more than than that I'd start to think that was the primary purpose of the novella. Maybe it is even, or of at least equal importance to everything else. They're relatively brief, explicit, and at least one is definitely kinky. As in the author's previous works, the sex has a tendency towards BDSM, which isn't what I'd prefer, though it's intriguing in its own way. Some of the relationship drama is questionable, but that may be only because the ping-ponging of back and forth to enemies to lovers back to enemies, perhaps lovers again, isn't that familiar to me. However, it isn't really about romance, or at least I didn't see it that way. Worship, adulation, or devotion would seem to be more accurate.

I didn't know if I'd read anything else from Sriduangkaew again because for a while because I was disappointed and disillusioned, but in time much returns to the mean. I now have the proper expectations and her writing has changed a bit. As far as I've been able to tell I'm decidedly not the target demographic and almost surely not appreciating it in the intended manner. That's fine though and has its own appeal when it works out. I'll probably eventually read the rest of the series because it fills a specific niche of enjoyment and sometimes that suffices by itself.

Rating: 3.5/5 (3)

>> No.22438038

>>22432291
This isn't my post but I'll bring it up again since I'm interested in the answer and he only got troll responses. Is there a collection of Barsoom that's generally considered the standard like how the Del Rey collections are the best for Conan?

>> No.22438040

>>22438038
I saw some in the bookstore today and they’re cheap. They’re just paper back unless you want hardcovers.

>> No.22438046

>>22438011
Your reviews are of poor quality. Please disengage from this thread.

>> No.22438052

>>22438011
Your reviews leave much to be desired. Kindly refrain from postan.

>> No.22438051

>>22438046
You can just filter his tripcode if you weren’t gonna be a drama queen and didn’t wanna see it.

>> No.22438057

>>22438051
>his
That is you

>> No.22438101

>gender bender Isekai story goes on about feelings about Mr. Perfect, acceptance and how it's terrible to be a woman in a backwards society
I can't relate to these stories. They feel so alien to me. I'm trying to diversify my readings but it's really difficult to "get it". God why can't I be normal

>> No.22438112

>>22438101
I know you are being facetious but these stories are anything but normal.
A normal love drama would be something like, married couple, guy goes away to fight in a war, is pronounced dead/missing, she wants to remain a widow, but is being courted by another man, the husband returns home and she chooses the husband.

>> No.22438125

>>22438112
>cuckolding is normal
No.

>> No.22438127

>>22438125
There is no cuckolding in that story anon

An American one would be a guy goes overseas to pilot drones in the middle east, meanwhile his wife is being plowed by every colored man she can find, for 40% of the novel, then the man comes home and he must declare his undying support for Israel if he wants his wive's permission to watch the town run a train on her.

>> No.22438130

I've worked out /sffg/ are just a bunch of whiny babies. If you had any critical thinking, you'd realise the pozzed minority representation that is rife everywhere in SF is a direct consequence of nearly every SF writer from the golden age to the new wave. Are you people blind? Every single writer of science fiction and fantasy enables black female tranny writers, either through a creed of escapism, or through overt hyper-liberalism, anti-fascism, or socialism. Neither Philip K Dick nor Gene Wolfe would object to a genderqueer otherkin writing about Sapphic fantasy India.

>> No.22438145

>>22438130
I'm aware that gay people exist, what is your point? I'm sure Dick and Wolfe would object to child erotica, but I am still writing that. Heck I might even throw in a spic or chink just to fuck with you, but probably not.

>> No.22438153

>>22438145
Whinge, whinge, whinge. What a genre for babies. Real writers don't even care about "morality" of content if it serves the function of art, but they never fall into the politics of resentment like you.

>> No.22438159

>>22438145
Consider going to 7chan's /elit/, erotic literature board, instead of being here.

>> No.22438164

>>22438153
You are a baby if you think art in literature is something that can be optimized.
>>22438159
Consider not telling me what to do. Pedophilephobe.

>> No.22438169

>>22438011
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

>> No.22438173

>>22438145
>I'm not yet feeling spiteful enough to overcome my racial prejudices.
Profound

>> No.22438177

>>22438164
>optimized
Art just is. Stop trying to think in terms of some weird game, retard.

>> No.22438183

>>22438177
Can you read?
Is this you?

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>>22438183
>Is this you?

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>>22438011
thanks for the review

>> No.22438191

>>22438187
I keep telling people that it's not a review. I will fuck off.

>> No.22438198

>>22438127
What are you talking about? The first one you mentioned sounds like every Hallmark drama, whereas this one sounds like some weird French shit.

>> No.22438208

>>22438191
I see, well just do what you gotta do mate

>> No.22438210

>>22438187
Do not thank! Review is not I tell you! I stop forever. Goodbye.

>> No.22438214

>>22438208
All your fault. Blame is your shame. Truth now accepting.

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Why did the "lost world" subgenre die out? Are there any good examples of it that aren't old as balls?

>> No.22438236

Let's get this thread back ontopic. Thoughts on martial world? The world building, the characters all perfect of course, but what I really want to do is a deep dive of lin ming's psyche, why does he cultivate, what is stopping him from settling down? What DRIVES HIM! I WILL TELL YOU! It is his SEXUAL IMPOTENCE.
>Fantasy and reality are polar existences of each other, and yet dependent on the other. Without fantasy, there is no point in reality. Without reality, fantasy has no meaning. Reality is fantasy, fantasy is reality, this is already the 99th world that I’ve come to
Ignoring the dao shit, he is saying that this is the 99TH world that he came on, but still he has no offspring.
You may think it weird, that Lin want to have sex with planets, but
>a worm living in the dead leaves and branches will never know the beauty and majesty of the world
from the horses mouth we know he is infatuated. How can a cultivator impregnate a planet? He can't, he is impotent. How does this manifest in his character. ONLY TIME WILL TELL.

>> No.22438243

>>22437583
Yes

>> No.22438256

>>22437767
Based

>> No.22438266

>>22438011
>As per the author's usual, all the characters are women. Men have little to no place in her writings.
Trash

>I don't mind that for her works.
more trash

>> No.22438269

>>22438266
Women make up 70% of college students. Men are lesser creatures.

>> No.22438276

>>22438145
I am interested now. Post links to your work

>> No.22438279

>>22438276
I will not spoon-feed you, and I will definitely not shill. You will find my work when it is your time to find it.

>> No.22438285

>>22438269
>It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy.

>> No.22438293

>>22438285
>t. braindead commie

>> No.22438297

>read japanese isekai novel
>the starting 3/4 of each chapter is mindless cute girls cooking filler

>> No.22438306

>>22438297
It seems like every other nip fantasy manga is half about cooking these days

>> No.22438309

>>22438297
If it was western it would just be 3/4 stat filler.

>> No.22438319

>>22438236
You might actually be right though
>As he arrived at outside of a reserved room, a Fey slave knelt on the ground and began to help Lin Ming take off his shoes. Then, she held Lin Ming’s feet and pressed them against her full breasts. In the Midnight Gloom Restaurant, it was a custom to warm one’s feet on the milky white breasts of a slave. Lin Ming had no interest in stepping on the chest of a woman who had probably been trampled on all her life. He drew his foot back and coldly said, “You can leave.” “Yes.” The slave was surprised, but respectfully excused herself.

>> No.22438330

>>22438319
>no interest in stepping on the chest of a woman who had probably been trampled on all her life.
anticcp translation
>no interest in sleeping with used goods

>> No.22438346

>>22438297
I fucking hate those authors, why do they do it, why can't they just write a normal story

>> No.22438382

I hate romance stories in fantasy because I feel a mix of "why can't it be me that have a cute girl" and "the pressure the guy's carrying in the act of courting is too much for a below average person to handle".

>> No.22438394
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Based PKD

>> No.22438418

>>22436284
kys ESL

>> No.22438453

Take some FUCKING notes!

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>>22438453
Forgot pic

>> No.22438469

>>22438394
This is hard to reconcile with his libshit take on ww2 in Ubik.

>> No.22438475

>>22435694
Jack Vance might be a good shout.

>> No.22438485

>>22438475
Dying Earth is not postapoc.

>> No.22438607

>>22438485
Why not

>> No.22438661

Does anyone know where can I read sci-fi short stories online?

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>>22438469
Ubik was written before he got VALISED in '74 and it told him Hitler is groovy

>> No.22438665

>>22438661
Clarkesworld
Daily Science Fiction Stories
Tor.com
various other sites

>> No.22438670

>>22438665
Thanks.

>> No.22438686

>>22438229
Isabel Allende wrote some of those for kids in the mid-2000s, City of the Beasts, Kingdom of the Golden Dragon, Forest of the Pygmies

>> No.22438782

>>22436156
excellent post

>> No.22438920

Read Samuel R. Delany, for his books are rather zany,
Even if he's black and gay, you cannot shame me
Dhalgren has a great premise and execution,
You should see before you dilate with allocution.

>> No.22438948

I'll rally under Bakker through thick and thin,
Even if it means I must work for a wage,
Even if it means I must commit a sin,
So don't doubt Bakker lest you want my rage,
For I'll champion Bakker for an eternal age,
I'll cease once he has every crown and land to win.

>> No.22438969

>>22435536
based stssffg poster

>> No.22438991

I finished Sabriel what did I think of it?

>> No.22438996

>>22438991
You liked it

>> No.22438997

>>22436447
Don't overthink names. People will forgive almost anything when it comes to names, just look at Robin Hobb's stuff.

>> No.22439012

>>22436729
No they don't. Muggles and Muggle-born wizards have regular names, and people from old pure blood families tend to be named after stars or constellations, or just in general have Greek / Latin names.

>> No.22439020

>>22438145
Based I write similar stuff myself

>> No.22439027

>>22438159
>7chan
I keep forgetting that place still exists.

>> No.22439031

slice of life sff. does it exist? like Stoner but he’s a wizard instead of a professor. or anything else in that type of genre.

>> No.22439033

>>22435536
Same. I just can't get comfy reading off a screen. It's gotta be a physical book or nothing when it comes to reading for pleasure. I'm sad that many publishers don't do mass market paperbacks anymore, because a lot of the people who bought them switched to buying ebooks instead, so now they only do trades and hardcovers.

>> No.22439087

>>22439033
Retarded. If the story is good I can read it off a fucking toilet roll.
You don't care about the content, you don't care about the story. Only thing you care about is looking like a tranny in a faggot coffee shop

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>>22439151

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>>22439151
>>22439164
>Reconstituted potato chips
>mash a potato
>re-shape it
>into the form of a chip
>refry it

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is this any good?

>> No.22439240

>>22439218
>the buried meme
>muh princess
>muh axl

>> No.22439269

Finished mistborn, and this brandon dude LOVES the word "maladroitly". Dude will not use any synonym for it, just throws out "maladroitly" everywhere it can fit.

>> No.22439275

>>22439240
?

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also this, is it worth reading?

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SF readers are
>smarter
>more open minded
>more educated
>read more in terms of volume
Sorry "lit" kids, us /sffg/ chads have made it.
https://doi.org/10.1177/2158244018780946

>> No.22439332

>>22439151
Stop posting shit from the commissary and blacken your fucking boots.

>> No.22439340

>>22439321
I hope this fagget isn't saying that hard scifi brings more people closer to science. Because that reads like they are talking specifically about hard scifi (which is shit and masturbates about theories that will probably be disproven in 5 decades) and not normal scifi which explores the what ifs.

>> No.22439351

>>22439340
I think the paper was assessing attitudes towards learning and willingness to accept science as true.
Nearly everyone on the planet forgets the periodic table and whatever compulsory physics subjects they do by the time they leave high school.

>> No.22439362

I'm going to join a local SF book club at the library, lads. This month is The Sparrow.

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>>22439362
Remember to flirt with the old ladies

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>>22439269
That's fine, though. What's really retarded is how people throw a fit whenever an author uses a common word more than once per page, or worse, and uncommon word more than once per book. We should all learn from Hemingway.
>In the late summer of that year we lived in a house in a village that looked across the river and the plain to the mountains. In the bed of the river there were pebbles and boulders, dry and white in the sun, and the water was clear and swiftly moving and blue in the channels. Troops went by the house and down the road and the dust they raised powdered the leaves of the trees. The trunks of the trees too were dusty and the leaves fell early that year and we saw the troops marching along the road and the dust rising and leaves, stirred by the breeze, falling and the soldiers marching and afterwards the road bare and white except for the leaves.

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>>22439370
This.
When women hit 50, they are in their prime.

>> No.22439382

>>22439321
I wish we had scifi in our literature class back in school and not this modern pozzed crap but older unpozzed or at least less pozzed works.
Many boys, myself included absolutely hated classical literature(and therefore hated reading). Scifi is probably the best thing to introduce young technically oriented people into reading and likely have them develop strong interest in it.

>> No.22439386

>>22439382
>Scifi is probably the best thing to introduce young technically oriented people into reading and likely have them develop strong interest in it.
Gene Wolfe said it best that Sci Fi/Fantasy should stay outside of "acceptable" reading, because kids will read it secretly and love it more because it isn't being forced down their throats.

>> No.22439408

>>22439386
No, that's just dumb.

>> No.22439411

>>22439378
Prime real estate for young dick, you men.

>> No.22439419

>>22439411
hehe, she is ready to settle...

>> No.22439434

>>22439408
You don't even have a canonical list of what SF to read and to teach kids. I dare you to make one that isn't going to be universally rejected here.

>> No.22439453

>>22439434
Not gonna make anything. But if we read/study different literary genres then science fiction should be included in the list of required school reading.

>> No.22439457

Royal road authors seethes for absolutely everything.
Even a thanks for the chapter might trigger them lmfao

>> No.22439469

>>22439453
>But if we read/study different literary genres then science fiction should be included in the list of required school reading.
It was for me. Our curriculum studied the Blade Runner movie. I also read Brave New World, which is pretty standard for grade 9 to 10 in Anglo countries.

>> No.22439486

>>22436128
>>22436986
>>22437613
>>22438475
Thanks for the recs lads. I just want something descriptive and atmospheric, i' ll check these books out.

>> No.22439509

>>22439378
Cherie deville?

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>>22439509

>> No.22439612

>>22439087
I care a lot about the content, I just can't read off a screen. I did that for 4 years when I was in college and it killed reading for me. I majored in literature so I was reading a minimum of 2 novels a week + supplementary texts which were often dozens or hundreds of pages of dense literary theory and scholarly opinions, and this was almost all done with PDFs on my computer or a library computer. I didn't read for pleasure for almost 3 years after I graduated college because of it.

Don't presume to tell me how to enjoy literature.

>> No.22439620

>>22439457
standard internet culture

>> No.22439633

finally reading dune now that the second film has been delayed to next year, i gotta say its downright criminal the movie skipped the Banquet scene

>> No.22439636

>>22439453
It is though? Ender's Game was on the reading list in elementary school. 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, were also on the reading list in middle school, and even high school. Granted this isn't the broadest range of stuff in the genre but it's not like sci-fi is excluded.

>> No.22439642

>>22439633
The first movie kept the spirit of making Part 1 wall to wall exposition and build up until suddenly everybody is being murdered.

>> No.22439657

>>22439620
Yeah like I was reading the comments in a novel and a guy who commented thanks for the chapter got lectured by the author about how it is meaningless and supposedly hurts other readers and asked him to stop that lol

>> No.22439702

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGsLDioGx9A
We need this, but with MILFs/GILFs reading SF

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>>22439378
I unironically like reading books written by old ladies and it's a plus if they are cute.
>>22439590
Her TabooByPrimal and Pervmom scenes are great t b h

>> No.22439715

Is there a single volume ebook for all Tolkiens stuff that isnt full of typos or weird line breaks?

>> No.22439735

>>22439702
I got a boner when that granny started to moan.

>> No.22439751

>>22439735
Your body is telling you to fuck her as she tries to read a story by L Ron Hubbard

>> No.22439756

>>22439457
Was reading Tori Transmigrated (okay take on reincarnated as a villain at first but it quickly gets boring) and the author completely destroyed all tension in the story by outright stating something in a confrontational author's note when it should've just been made clear within the story.

>> No.22439776

>>22439642
lmfao you're not entirely wrong but still that part was easily my favorite so far, honestly im excited to see what else didn't make the cut for part 1

>> No.22439806

>>22439756
You should try reading some forum posts, it's hilarious. My favorite are people seething over bad rating, they get so defensive it's funny

>> No.22439810

>>22438229
Satellites. No.

>> No.22439832

>>22439457
The only winning move is not to play

>> No.22439855

>>22439457
Most of the popular ones don’t respond. If they ever responded at the beginning, before they were popular, then they just say “thanks”

>> No.22439908

Straight mc is reincarnated into xianxia, but he is a dual cultivation treasure, tries to court women but ends up getting raped by old men to the highest rank. Recs? GRC

>> No.22439911

>>22439908
Go away fag

>> No.22439921

>>22439911
Yikes

>> No.22439924

>>22435979
It only gets better desu. Enjoy the slog.

>> No.22439938

>>22439908
Who would read this gay shit?

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I don't get it. So Regal plots to assassinate his brother, fails and then... nothing happens? I assumed he'd be fleeing the country or something when Verity killed Galen, but they all just go back to Buckkeep, apparently. I feel like I'm missing something because this ending makes no sense.

>> No.22439947

Xianxia but the completely average by any other metric protagonist reaches immortality way to quickly. He is mortal then is tested by a nearby clan as having "good" aptitude, then he goes through a major rank each day, being 4 major realms above the secret master of the clan by the end of the first week during the greeting ceremony, albeit with a shitty cultivation technique and no immortal techniques or body refinement.

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I want to find some web serial site where they have horror erotica. RR just seems shit for anything but cultivation. Their horror is all "lol big squid monster"

>> No.22439958

Tired of those same thread blues? Seeing duplicated posts too often for your liking? Spray a dab of Ubik on those threads and they'll add that pizazz you were missing in your life!* Use as directed *for an affordable fee, of course.

>> No.22439980

There was one cultivation novel (maybe one of the martial worlds or MGA) Where a villain would cultivate by breaking the hymens of lgs. Can you imagine that. Hundreds of thousands of years defiling lgs of all ages bellow puberty getting strronger after every one, making insane rituals with hundreds of lgs and your favorite at the formation center, only to be one tapped by a shitty holier-than-thou mc who doesn't even know about your soul saving treasure on a different planet.

>> No.22440002

>Oh, this little girl loves me.
>I was in the wrong, and she was just correcting me.
>I will follow this girl.
Novels for this feel?

>> No.22440012

>>22440002
Any romance fantasy for women
Or romance in general, think about those rapist CEO novels

>> No.22440017

>>22440012
Most romance novels are reverse-rape/beating correction?

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So I posted on here several years ago when I first started writing a fantasy trilogy: Chateau Cascade, Affiliation's Call, and Imperium's Conquest. At the time it was just Chateau Cascade. People told me my book sucked, that I'd never finish a trilogy, etc.

Well, fuck you, it's done. Also, you were right, the first book had serious first-time-author problems so I did a second edition of it that is longer and has all its perspective issues fixed.

Anyway, the ebooks are free ("pay what you want") on my website so I'm not really shilling. I would be curious what people here think of them now that they're all done. Pic related.

>> No.22440039

>>22435336
Which # gay rape is that? That's normally how we Bakkerfans define different sections of the book. I personally loved the 7th and 29th gay rapes.

>> No.22440049

>>22439958
Advertisements from the 60's and 70's feel quaint by today's standards. Makes Ubik feel comfy instead of schizo.

>> No.22440068

>>22440035
congratulations, anon

>> No.22440078

>>22440035
>Chateau Cascade
lel. You came back after we shat on you. Didn't we used to get you banned too for your shilling?

>> No.22440082

>>22440035
How did you do the covers?

>> No.22440090

>>22440082
Looks like Lord of the Shits knock offs. Especially book with that not-Gandalf holding a ring.

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Fuck you, I liked it. Mimics just work for me.

>> No.22440096

>>22440090
But somebody did the off-knocking. To me they looked kind of Star Wars book covers. Just curious is all.

>> No.22440097

>>22440091
Saw this around and I dunno, I feel like every attempt to make mimics be a pet never really feel real.

>> No.22440099

>>22440097
It's not quite a pet, it's a symbiote. But yeah, if you're not into it you'll find plenty of problems.

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>>22440068
Thank you! I worked very hard on it. Also I forgot to mention that people shit on the old cover, and now that's changed too.

>>22440078
>lel. You came back after we shat on you
Some of the criticism was useful. A lot of it was stupid. I took the good criticism under advisement and some of it really did help with the second edition.

>Didn't we used to get you banned too for your shilling?
Not that I know of, no. There was some Mexican mtf transgender who really hated me and banned me from his discord server. He used to spam his discord server in here, which I'm glad to see doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

>>22440082
I paid a very talented asian man a lot of money. Basically I thumbed through artstation accounts for many, many hours looking for somebody who had the kind of style that I had in mind. I got this list down to two people, and ended up settling on this guy. We then went back and forth over email as I described the characters, the positions I wanted them in, their poses, their expressions, et cetera. Almost every little thing about the covers is intentional -- especially which characters are in which positions. It was very important to me to get the covers right, since for pretty much everybody it's their introduction to my work.

>>22440090
That character is specifically meant to be something of a parody of Saruman, especially in looks. I'm glad you noticed.

>>22440096
>To me they looked kind of Star Wars book covers

This is on purpose too. The main character of these books is meant to be a quasi-parody of the hero's journey archetype which Luke embodies.

>> No.22440113

>>22440097
If anything, the guy is the mimic's pet.

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>mogs /sffg/
nothing personnell kid

>> No.22440122

>>22440116
he's so goddamn underrated

>> No.22440125

>>22440110
>A lot of it was stupid
Like how your name is literally gay?
>verification not required

>> No.22440128

>>22440125
Yes I think that would qualify as not-particularly-useful advice. It's not my fault you don't want to hang out with Dusty Ridgeman at Ram Ranch.

>> No.22440135

>>22435300
Hmm I read the short story of this in his Novelties & Souveniers collection.
Did he expand it into a novel? Or is that book very short?

>> No.22440144

>>22440135
Novelty is 4 novellas, Souvenirs are short stories iirc

>> No.22440151

>>22440113
>>22440099
More interesting, I suppose, but still. Mimics just also feel inherently 'meme-y' so it's harder to take stories with them seriously.

>> No.22440156

>>22440151
Oh no. It's definitely not a story to take seriously. From your comments, I would not recommend.

>> No.22440163

>>22440035
congratulations :)

>> No.22440210

>>22440156
I can enjoy goofy stuff, I'm not saying I can't, I just find mimics personally tricky to enjoy. Luggage from Discworld sort of set the bar and nothing's ever really hit that.

>> No.22440219

FOLLOW LORD PISS GAIN ETERNAL COCK
WHEN THE LORD PISS APPEARS WHO DARES SHIT

>> No.22440232

>>22440210
This one owes a lot to Boxxy Morningwood and the chest from Hordes of the Underdark.

Is there a definitive list of mimicore someplace?

>> No.22440243

>>22440151
>meme-y
There was a "gimic-y" pun in there somewhere and you missed it. I'm incredibly disappointed in you.

>> No.22440248

>>22440243
Or 'meme-icky' or something. Yeah, it's late I don't have enough in my brain right now.

>> No.22440256

>gender bender novel goes on about patriarchy and the pleasure of having a coochie

>> No.22440267

>>22440256
>trannies are mentally ill
News at 11

>> No.22440275

>>22440163
Thank you very much :)

>>22440267
Oh man you'd love my books

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Must... obey.... MILF... must... be... integrated... into... System
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAz0xCwdJm4

>> No.22440288

>>22440277
...As... something... to... revile... latent ... love for... cunny ... expanding...

>> No.22440314

>>22440256
>read trannylit
>complain about it having trannyism
???

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>>22440288
Oh god... why isn't there more SF with yandere girls abducting the male MC?

>> No.22440323

>>22440315
There is plenty of speculative fiction of this

>> No.22440332

>>22440323
I hate this non-answer. List the best five.

>> No.22440337

>>22440332
I will not spoonfeed you.

>> No.22440344

>>22440337
So you've never read any.

>> No.22440348

>>22440344
Keep coping readlet.

>> No.22440362

>>22440348
You are my yandere girl

>> No.22440365

>>22440362
You are my poorly read loli gf.

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Is Ciri bestgirl?

>> No.22440376

>>22440314
I was expanding my horizon about the way women experience life.

>> No.22440379

>>22440376
>women(male)

>> No.22440386

>>22440373
>788k subscribers
we really live in pathetic men times, as also confirmed by many retards in this thread

>> No.22440391

>>22440386
>788k subscribers
All women(male)

>> No.22440393

>>22440379
Women (female) write stuff I can't understand because I'm dumb as a brick.

>> No.22440400

>>22440393
>Women (female) write
>

>> No.22440430

>>22440400
I used to think most books were bad, but then I stared noticing things like female sounding names and names with berg/gold/stein and the quality improved immensely. I told the librarian about this and her face got so red I thought she would pop.

>> No.22440496

>>22440430
Same but I didn't realize this til I started reading best sellers/ awarded books and recs on this thread.

>> No.22440501

Recs for litrpg where the abilities actualy matters and the mc/mc and party don't just steamroll/job to everything anyway

>> No.22440508

>>22440501
i.e. something like a litrpg with a real system and the author is rolling dice. But also with stats and ability autism an standard web novel/serial Autogynephilia

>> No.22440514

>>22439031
Thieves' World by Robert Aspirin, to some extent

>> No.22440516

>>22439031
Any isekai written by a japanese.

>> No.22440586

>>22440514
>>22440516
thanks for the recs anons. I’m essentially looking for something where no one’s life is in danger, there’s no action or adventure, just normal people living normal lives in a dramatic/literary type story that happens to be set in a sci-fi or fantasy setting.

>> No.22440621

>>22440586
Yeah just go on novelupdates pick a random japanese isekai and skip the first 10 chapter and you will have a great cooking slice of life with no action or adventure.

>> No.22440659

>>22440586
What do you think of Station Eleven?

>> No.22440668

>>22439031
Farmer in the Sky is essentially slice of life but colonizing a new world, written by Heinlein. Very much just about living in a new world.

Ada or Ardor by Nabokov is set in an alternate world where water replaces electricity for most goods and there's a mass hallucination where people believe in our Earth, but its really mainly about fucking your sister.

The Goblin Emperor has some politicking, but most of it is just the protagonist settling into his life.

Way Station by Clifford Simak is mostly about a man given immortality in exchange for operating an isolated waystation on Earth for travelling aliens, has some action near the end but on the whole is just interesting SoL.

Songs of a Distant Earth has no real action, its just refugees from a dying planet meeting their long-forgotten colonial brethren and the interesting events and conversations that happen while the ship stops over

I'll also back up the Station eleven rec

>> No.22440697

Slice-of-lifefags need to die. PURE VAPID SHIT. If I wanted that I would read xianxia which I DO!

>> No.22440713

>>22440621
>>22440659
>>22440668
thank you anons. I haven’t read station eleven. I saw the trailer for the tv adaptation and it looked too woke to be good, but I’ll check out the book.

>> No.22440734

Is there any book that details how a dungeon, gear based economy could work? Say someone actions off a legendary armor with mind boggling effects worth billions of dollars. How is it payed for? Do wealthy merchants/companies pool resources like the ship travel of old and loan it to an experienced dungeoneer for a percentage of his profits?
Does the government subsidize this as defense expenditure? or exploratory research?

>> No.22440752

>>22440734
detail into economy is autistic and gay. Try Shadow of the torture Chapter XVI: The Rag Shop.

>> No.22440760

>>22440752
>meme wolfkin
I'm good.
The greatest gift a reincarnator can give a medieval world is capitalism, it is a few simple ideas about wealth distribution and ownership that anyone can remember and will kickstart the economy of any nation, mix that with magic and you will have an explosion of inventions, you have the prime setting for a good story. Nobody cares about stories from depressed little towns where nobody can afford to think about tomorrow.

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>mfw reading yet another child rape scene in Richard Laymon

>> No.22440779

>>22440768
>Richard Laymon
Nice try, but unless he describes the monster's nut being smeared on her flat belly and chest then he is a poser.

>> No.22440786

>>22440760
Martin complete your damn books already
>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?

>> No.22440794

>>22440786
I think "rational" fiction is retarded too, but I still think economic ideas can be explored even in a speculative way without just handwaving everything, it's your job as the author to make it interesting.

>> No.22440821

Cradle has a soulless cover and is a nytbs. I will not read it.

>> No.22440870

>>22440821
Lots of great NYTBS authors.

>> No.22440873

>>22440870
Name 1

>> No.22440884

>>22440873
I'll name all the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Hemingway, Steinbeck, Edmonds, Woolf, Sinclair, and Davenport.

>> No.22440897

>>22440884
All shit that my hippie gibshitter teachers tried to force me to read. I told them that xianxia is the only way, but I couldn't see any light in their eye.

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>>22440884
Oh, and Nabokov
>>22440897
You're not funny.

>> No.22440903

>>22440900
They are literally all shit, no cap.

>> No.22440907

>>22440884
>Steinbeck
>I am sad for a time when one must know a man’s race before his work can be approved or disapproved
>Fun fact: J.R.R. Tolkien, also not a Jew, wrote a similar letter two years earlier.
What a retard. But I guess you'll say anything to get published.

>> No.22440930

Any good majority ai written kino yet?

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>>22440907
That's a completely incorrect understanding of the situation. Steinbeck was already a published, successful author at the time this letter was written. He just thought it was ridiculous that an anti-Nazi organization wanted him to prove he wasn't a Jew in order to garner support with non-Jews and dispel the rumors that Grapes of Wrath was Jewish propaganda. Regardless, he was absolutely correct.
>Those who wish for one reason or another to believe me Jewish will go on believing it while men of good will and good intelligence won’t care one way or another. I can prove these things of course — but when I shall have to — the American democracy will have disappeared.

Furthermore, let's take a look at another NYTBS author, Ernest Hemingway. How was Cohn portrayed and talked about in The Sun Also Rises? Keep in mind Hemingway's novels were mostly autobiographical.

>He had a hard, Jewish, stubborn streak.

>I saw Cohn coming over across the square.
>“Here he comes.”
>“Well, let him not get superior and Jewish.”

>“No, listen, Jake. Brett’s gone off with men. But they weren’t ever Jews, and they didn’t come and hang about afterward.”

>“That Cohn gets me,” Bill said. “He’s got this Jewish superiority so strong that he thinks the only emotion he’ll get out of the fight will be being bored.”

>“I’m not one of you literary chaps.” Mike stood shakily and leaned against the table. “I’m not clever. But I do know when I’m not wanted. Why don’t you see when you’re not wanted, Cohn? Go away. Go away, for God’s sake. Take that sad Jewish face away. Don’t you think I’m right?”

And of course Nabokov wasn't ever a guy to bow and scrape to get published, so essentially all of what you've just said has gone up in smoke. Faggot.

>> No.22440969

>>22440962
>it's all jewish propaganda but it doesn't matter lalala
LMAO. So you agree, but don't think it matters? Why not?

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>> No.22440983

>>22440969
Who are you quoting? Stop shitting up this thread, faggot. Read some James Fenimore Cooper. Read some William Gilmore Simms. Read some Hawthorne. Read some Poe. Read some Bierce. Read some Lovecraft. Read some Smith. Read some Howard. Then come back and see if you can't post something here that isn't complete and utter trash.

>> No.22440988

>>22440983
Don't pretend that nyt is some sort of instution designed to fairly pick the best authors when 90% are jews and 99% are stories that jews want told.
No amount of listing the same tired names whose work has nothing left to offer (if ever) will change that.

>> No.22441071

>>22440988
>Don't pretend that nyt is some sort of instution designed to fairly pick the best authors
no one here thinks that, but it’s just as foolish to think any nyt bestselling author is automatically unreadable.

>> No.22441094

>>22439031
isn't discworld by terry pratchet technically a sol?

>> No.22441259

>>22441144
>>22441144
>>22441144
DUBS DUBS DUBS

>> No.22441463

>>22435241
>Micheal Sullivan.
Let me guess, you eat big salads, drink starbucks and sex with UGGs on.

>> No.22441478

>Michael J. Sullivan is a New York Times, USA Today, and Washington Post bestselling American writer
Take that chud.