/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22431130]

What's so special about Francis Fukuyama? Why do reddit types think that he is some sort of amazing prophet?
It's just another boring materialist pseudo-religion about the so-called "end of history". He is like Karl Marx except his "end of history" is capitalism and liberal democracy instead of communism.

[Anonymous No.22431166]

>>22431130
Your post assumes so many dumb things. The end of history is a Hegelian concept. You're casually disregarding people you've never read who are infinitely more intelligent than yourself. Fukuyama wrote the book on Capitalist realism which he himself no longer subscribes to. Still, it's a very good, smart book to read.

[Anonymous No.22431177]

Wouldn’t this board be a better place if people were only allowed to post about books after they read them ? The weekly Guns Germs and Steel thread is the most infuriating example of this willful ignorance

[Anonymous No.22431204]

>>22431130
Loved Norwegian Wood

[Anonymous No.22431210]

>>22431204
Kek

[Anonymous No.22431228]

>>22431130
He's a bit middlebrow maybe but what else is there? Who has a better analysis of our historical moment?

[Anonymous No.22431229]

>>22431166
I know that, retard.

[Anonymous No.22431233]

>>22431228
>Who has a better analysis of our historical moment?
Jay Dyer
https://www.youtube.com/live/w_3qMu7KJ4k?si=UysB1yQDUV9ZXmSM

[Anonymous No.22431262]

>>22431130
>He is like Karl Marx except his "end of history" is capitalism and liberal democracy instead of communism
Hard to read. Probably even more embarrassing to write

[Anonymous No.22431273]

>>22431262
You argue like a woman. You just make little passive aggressive jabs.
What should I have expected from some Hegelian creep

[Anonymous No.22431283]

if you need to ask, start with Wendt and Waltz. these people in charge can't stop constructing a never ending logic of appropriateness

[Anonymous No.22431302]

>>22431273
nta, but honestly, that comparison is on par with saying Marx is just like Plato because they both did political philosophy. It displays a level of ignorance that's pretty wild.

[Anonymous No.22431306]

>>22431302
>pretty wild
reddit lingo
begone

[Anonymous No.22431312]

>>22431302
Making some baseless claim of an "end of history" from a materialist perspective is really stupid.
Neither Marx nor Fukuyama can provide an epistemological justification for these claims.

[Anonymous No.22431321]

>>22431306
I will, this thread sucks and was made by a mouthbreather.

[Anonymous No.22431322]

>>22431204
lol

[Anonymous No.22431330]

>>22431321
you suck cock and balls faggot

[Anonymous No.22431337]

>>22431312
Here's a hint: the essay on which the book as based has a question mark. "The End of History?".
The expansion of his thought in the book still merits the question mark.
The claim is not baseless, it is rather well-argued. Try reading either the essay or the book.
Yes, they are both speculative teleologists. They also both wore shirts and slept in beds.

[Anonymous No.22431341]

>>22431330
Nope, I'm into vaginer, so you can up and kiss my spurs and hit the road fag.

[Anonymous No.22431357]

I don't think he's a prophet but he's important to read to know how many Washington thinks

[Anonymous No.22431382]

>>22431337
They have no epistemological justification for it at all. Literally none.

[Anonymous No.22431394]

>>22431382
Fukuyama has more than Marx, but yes, having limited epistemological justification is the very definition of speculative.

[Anonymous No.22431408]

>>22431233
>>22431233
>>22431233

[Anonymous No.22431412]

>>22431273
You argue like a retard. You just make little retarded, inane statements.
What should I have expected from someone who has never read anyone in the post they are referencing.

[Anonymous No.22431542]

>>22431130
He just capitalized on the moment and wrote what all the Washington establishment neolib-shitlibs wanted to hear at the time. The internal contradictions between democratic society and corporate capitalism (aka anti-market, private-sphere oligarchism) existed then and exists now and will continue to do so until it implodes into either chaos or totalitarianism. The liberal gambit is to reform the system and its institutions as long as possible to keep the contradiction from destroying the system.

[Anonymous No.22431642]

>>22431273
someday, you will learn to speak. Hopefully you will learn to think at an earlier time.

[Anonymous No.22431769]

He just boldly and emphatically claimed that crony capitalistic liberal democracy was the final form and since everyone hates it so much, they hated him for saying it. That’s it really.

[Anonymous No.22431802]

>>22431130
He is special because regardless if you disagree with thesis of liberal democracy and capitalism being the final stage of political development, his opinion is the official stance of the liberal world order. He is basically their patron saint. Ever since he wrote that book, the West has been emphatically preaching about spreading "democracy" and "freedom" to the rest of the world since they believe they have solved everything. If you want to understand what the West believes about itself in the 21st century then read Fukuyama since he's their biggest mouthpiece

[Anonymous No.22431805]

>What's so special about Francis Fukuyama?
his "end of history" schtick has been fairly influential in international relations for nearly 3 decades
> Why do reddit types think that he is some sort of amazing prophet?
most leftwinger and progressive types weren't a big fan you dumb fuck
>It's just another boring materialist .....
oh jesus

[Anonymous No.22431937]

>>22431130
Retroactively debunked by Deng Xiaoping

[Anonymous No.22431965]

>>22431805
Materialism is retarded.

[Anonymous No.22432996]

>>22431802
The West was doing that shit way before he wrote this book.