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HEGEL WAS A KANTIAN

Kant:
>as objectively considered there can only be one human Reason, so there cannot be many Philosophies; in other words, there is ONLY ONE TRUE SYSTEM OF PHILOSOPHY founded upon principles, however variously and however contradictorily men may have philosophized over one and the same proposition.

Hegel:
>The different systems which the history of philosophy presents are therefore not irreconcilable with unity.

>We may either say, that it is one philosophy at different degrees of maturity: or that the particular principle, which is the groundwork of each system, is but a branch of one and the same universe of thought.

>> No.22426150

>>22426115
Maybe you're new to posting or philosophy but this is a dumb thread, I'm sorry. It's cool that you found this overlap but the fact that Hegel was influenced by Kant (post-Kantian) is not at all a revelation and a very basic fact. But he also doesn't agree with Kant entirely in this quote, whereas Kant sees one static, "synchronic" unity to human reason in only one true philosophy, Hegel (more perceptively and accurately, I believe) sees a "diachronic" unity as philosophy's development across time. Here is at least one area that Hegel made an improvement over Kant.

>> No.22426177 [SPOILER] 

Hegelsisters, our response?

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>>22426150
>Hegel (more perceptively and accurately, I believe) sees a "diachronic" unity as philosophy's development across time
falsch. at any given moment in time all the historical moments of the one true system are present and co existing presenting the illusion of many different philosophies. But the one true system as the universal amongst the particulars is one and the same for all to discover for themselves in all places at all times. There is only ONE philosophy which all philosophers more or less attain to. In this sense Hegel is a Kantian, but he is also a Platonist, and so is anyone who attains episteme and sees truth himself so as to properly judge how far or close any particular system is to the TRUTH.

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>>22426177
>Hegelsisters

>Women are capable of education, but they are not made for activities which demand a universal faculty such as the more advanced sciences, PHILOSOPHY, and certain forms of artistic production.
nothing personal kid.

>> No.22426233

>>22426186
Well that I agree with and makes for a more interesting OP post. Hegel's portrayal of philosophy can at least be seen as the synthesis of the diachronic and synchronic into an ultimately synchronic unity in Absolute Idealism, in opposition to Kant who only saw reason and philosophy as essentially ahistorical however.

>> No.22426417

>>22426233
>however
Please don't use this meme in effortposts about philosophy. You confused the shit out of me.

>> No.22426665

>>22426417
wut?

>> No.22426717

>>22426177
YWNBAW

>> No.22427341

>>22426115
>ONE
>unity
this schizophrenic christkike delusion is never substantiated

the idea of one god or one truth is just a projection of oneself
main character syndrome

>> No.22428337

>>22426115
woah it's almost like they were both contributing to the same movement in philosophy

some kind of german philosophy based on ideas

a german ideal philosophy, even

german idealism

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>>22428337
no brainlet. THE ONE TRUE SYSTEM OF PHILOSOPHY transcends German Idealism or any particular philosophical school. It is only their accidental presentation that is unique to the Germans; the Truth itself, as a single universal reality, is one and the same for all who've attained it, Greek, German, or otherwise. It just so happens the German presentation was the first PUBLIC demonstration of what was previously reserved for private initiation. The Hegelian doctrine is a formalization of the Platonic hidden doctrine, the occult philosophy.

>Absolute Truth can be attained through acquaintance knowing only by those who are the truly initiated. Being initiated
actually means not only being of the correct philosophical temperament but also being thoroughly practised in dialectic. Hence, dialectic or propositional knowledge has a role to play in the attainment ofthis ultimate knowing. It helps open and direct the "eye of the soul" (the noetic acquaintive faculty, or illuminative intuition) to its proper object
correlate.

>> No.22428433

>>22428425
you are not interested in philosophy or truth or even practicing dialectic for yourself. you are just obsessed with these german guys.

>> No.22428436

>>22428433
seethe and cope as you will

>> No.22428438

>>22428436
sorry I won't be seething in your threads anymore. I've resolved to stop going on 4chan so I don't have to see your posts.

>> No.22428443

>>22428438
>I've resolved to stop going on 4chan so I don't have to see your posts.
very well I'll see you tomorrow

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>>22428443
not this time...

>> No.22428478

>>22428470
you know you could just literally ignore my posts

>> No.22428483

>>22428478
It's too difficult to ignore the possibility that a newfag might get tricked into reading k*nt

>> No.22428487

>>22428483
>a newfag might get tricked into reading k*nt
and this bothers you so much why?

>> No.22428711

bump

>> No.22428742

>>22427341
It’s a cliched critique of subjectivism/extreme relativism, but the very argument that, “There is no one objective absolute truth, only people’s subjective approaches to it” is itself contradictory by putting itself up as a one objective absolute truth (“that there is no objective absolute”). Hence forcing one to accepting at least SOME degree of “idealism” or “monism” (in the vein of anyone from the Greek to the German philosophers, as >>22428425 rightly notes) at the risk of being self-refuting if they try to claim otherwise.

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>> No.22430673

>>22428425
cap

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>>22430673
>For this reason no serious man will ever think of writing about serious realities for the general public so as to make them a prey to envy and perplexity.
guess he was right