[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature


View post   

File: 860 KB, 580x800, Jerusalem Man.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423039 No.22423039 [Reply] [Original]

Jerusalem Man edition.

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/guIyhAzS
>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

Previous: >>22415705

>> No.22423054
File: 53 KB, 275x375, Pilgrimsregress.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423054

>>22423039
>He discovers and has visions of an island that fills indescribable yearning. At first, he thinks this yearning is Lust, personified as brown girls

>> No.22423068

Tolkien is a hack
Martin is a hack
Sanderson is a hack
Bakker is a hack
Wolfe is a hack
Rothfuss is a hack
Le Guin is a hack
Dunsany is KING

>> No.22423069
File: 638 KB, 1041x1600, conan comic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423069

>>22423039
Conanchads can't stop winning.

>> No.22423081
File: 3 KB, 343x65, 1688007343140459.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423081

>>22423054
Ahem..

>> No.22423165

>>22423054
>another coom book

>> No.22423172

>>22423165
There shall be more to coom in the daze a head.

>> No.22423184
File: 14 KB, 173x291, urth of the new sun, wolfe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423184

What the fuck was he thinking?

>> No.22423193

>>22423184
More like you weren't thinking. What you thought everything was, wasn't. It's your own fault if anything in there is surprising.

>> No.22423199

>>22423193
tranny faggot

>> No.22423244

>>22423193
lol

>> No.22423257

Any more recs for this >>22405725 so far:
>Book of the new Sun
>Mask of the Sorcerer

>> No.22423286

>>22423257
Warhawks amnesty :^)

>> No.22423288

>>22423257
It depends but I don’t think a majority of well known SF will be truly adapted because our level of special effects and production could never do them justice. There have been half hearted attempts at Foundation but it’s just shit.
I know he’s a meme but R Scott Bakker is too vast to ever be truly adapted, just because no one is going to do a full CGI of all the weird shit in it.
Malazan books are seen as something that won’t ever be fully adapted, so most of its fans are always going to be those who read the books.
Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath has too many strange things in it to be adapted. It could maybe be animated but I don’t imagine it would be easy without a huge budget and massive team, which wouldn’t happen since even indie films with crowd funding can barely do Pickman’s Model which has one monster in it. Kadath has huge battles between eyeless frogs and cats, or whatever, amidst a completely alien world.
Gormenghast’s mood can’t be visualised, in my opinion, since it’s closer to poetry than some scene in a Stephen King novel. It’s also way too long and without action for any movie goer.

>> No.22423300

>>22423257
Any Silverberg would be too metaphysical to be adapted to the screen

>> No.22423324

>>22423300
That's completely untrue. Much of Silverberg's work could be easily adapted, especially his Majipoor series.

>> No.22423334

>>22423288
There's very little that can't be adapted.

>> No.22423338

>>22423324
I meant all the good works, obviously.

>> No.22423342

>>22423257
Basically any fantasy wouldn't adapt well
It's much harder to think of fantasy that would, especially if you limit yourself to non-animated and film only for your adaptation.

>> No.22423346
File: 105 KB, 680x548, 1692917159618838.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423346

>reading book reviews
>I hate how the author treats and writes women as sex objects
I know what I'm reading!

>> No.22423354

>>22423338
Which do you believe to be his best works?

>> No.22423364

>>22423354
The ones that are not easily adaptable.

>> No.22423365

>>22423342
That's dumb. CG can cover anything.

>> No.22423369

>>22423334
Budget is the main constraint. A lot of these things could be done in animation but nobody wants to make big animation adaptations, for some reason. Like, even if we're talking about really more recently popular things, Sanderson's stuff generally doesn't feel like it'd fit too well in live-action. Maybe Mistborn would, that's got a lot of 'movie-esque' pacing anyway.

>> No.22423382

Dune was considered unadaptable until some guy built some toys, hired some actors, and made Star Wars

>> No.22423383

>>22423369
That isn't the main restraint. The main restraint is viewership and cancellations. A recent example being Ken Liu's Pantheon, which was animated, being cancelled after a single season when it confirmed for two before it even aired

>> No.22423421

>>22423369
On a different note Japan regularly makes big animation films. The US tends only to do CGI for children. There exists various notable examples for adults though. Unfortunately, that's mostly niche. There simply isn't much of a cultural appetite for western adult animation, especially in film.

>> No.22423431

>>22423382
Lynch's Dune was roundly panned. The only person who thought it was good was Harlan Ellison funnily enough. I don't know about the nu Dune, but it looked like they were copying Bladerunner aesthetic for no reason.

>> No.22423440

>>22423421
>There simply isn't much of a cultural appetite for western adult animation, especially in film.
Our artists and animators also want way too much money. Japan outsources their grunt work to Korea, who draw for pennies. I wonder if animation companies could do that in the west without being cancelled by some "whistle blower"

>> No.22423454

>>22423440
A lot of western TV animation shows already do that.

>> No.22423462

>>22423454
Name one example

>> No.22423465

>>22423440
I don't know if you're aware that much of the US animation of the 80s and 90s did exactly that, though it was Japan at the time.

>> No.22423466

>>22423454
Ah alright. I heard Avatar alienated viewers so they had to add boobs and make them overly look like real humans, so maybe Westerners hate anything that isn't live action.

>> No.22423475

>>22415772
Wtf I bought Let the Right One In expecting pure vanilla vamp coming of age romance

>> No.22423482

Any harem stories with a fat protagonist/ugly bastard and a bunch of cute grills?
Any funny story with a fat guy like jean from Locke Lamora 1?

>> No.22423483

>>22423475
And you got transgender propaganda in the shape of east european weird fiction

>> No.22423494
File: 51 KB, 283x475, 51TP4SV3KZL.SX316.SY480._SL500_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423494

You just know...

>> No.22423499

>>22423494
No, it's just your brain rot.

>> No.22423500

>>22423346
Name one that isn't from bakker

>> No.22423504

>>22423475
You clearly didn't look at anything about it. Those are the risks when you go in blind.

>> No.22423508

>>22423500
Poul Anderson. Reddit seethes every time he describes a woman's tits and they HAVE to complain it on r/menwritingwomen.

>> No.22423509

>>22423346
Nice /vt/ meme, you gachikoi unicorn.

>> No.22423511

>>22423499
Touché

>> No.22423513

>xianxia with female protagonist
Do americans really

>> No.22423516

>>22423466
>so maybe Westerners hate anything that isn't live action.
No, westerners love japanese anime just as much as japanese. The problem with western animation is that no one in the west really knows how to direct animation. That's why all western animation is shit and only dumb kids watch it. Japanese on the other hand struggle with live action directing and their live action always comes out as shit.

>> No.22423521

I think bakker shills are fags. No human male hetero guy one would read about male rape

>> No.22423522

>>22423462
I'm pretty sure Steven Universe outsourced a lot of work to Korea.

>> No.22423523

>>22423516
Name one example of a japanese live action that is shit

>> No.22423525

>>22423516
I disagree. There are quite a few enjoyable Japanese live action movies. The live action ones adapted from anime and manga tend to be bad though. They also do a lot stage plays of anime/manga which I just find odd.

>> No.22423530

>>22423525
Live action Japanese TV series though, well, that's a wasteland to be sure.

>> No.22423533
File: 99 KB, 645x1000, 71hmz8Qm4bL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423533

>>22423500
The first line mentions the protagonist's breasts, and there are quite a few "jouncing breasts" throughout the story. It's actually pretty good.

>> No.22423547

>>22423523
Death Note ones are all terrible

>> No.22423556

>Japanese animation is bett-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnZjp32Rq0Y

>> No.22423561

>>22423556
That isn't animation. That's tokusatsu. Most commonly known in the US as the basis for Power Rangers.

>> No.22423567

>>22423039
These recs are actual shit, Why does literally ever image have Tolkien, Howard, Lovecraft on it. This shit is ubiquitous was memed to death long before you were born. Or it's shit like Martin which was memed for the past decade.
>read this long ass boring book that is already insanely popular
Why, pretty much the only reason people rec these authors is that they are popular. Why are they popular? Because they were shilled the hardest. That's it.

>> No.22423568

>>22423561
Yeah it's the joke scene at the end. The film is just satire of monster movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0qcFWmEkS0

>> No.22423569

>>22423523
I watched The Ring, Bleach live action, Azumi. Do japanese even make any live action these days that are not adapted from manga/anime? I know there are some highly rated samurai movies the 60s but after seeing one japanese samurai movie you pretty much have seen them all.

>> No.22423575

>>22423569
Yes, quite a lot. This isn't /tv/ though or id provide a list of the ones I've most enjoyed.

>> No.22423578

>>22423569
>he hasn't seen Jigoku
NGMI.

>> No.22423579

>>22423533
I would rather read about a powerful female mc that becomes a slave rather than a slave mc that becomes a powerful female... Wait no that's not what I meant. ...Rather than a slave female mc that becomes powerful.

>> No.22423580

>>22423567
You have to start somewhere
Just because they're popular doesn't mean they're bad
I would never recommend anyone new to fantasy to read abominations from scribble hub

>> No.22423584

>>22423569
The mega in OP has much more than books. https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/

>> No.22423592

>>22423579
Least autogynephilic gender bender reader

>> No.22423595

>>22423580
But that's not how people learn. It's like trying to learn math from euclid or even ahlfors, when you could be on the net reading real mathematics, mathematicians blogs and referencing dead trees when you want.
Or learning to code from a book vs forums/repos/work

>> No.22423596
File: 2.44 MB, 1560x1504, live girlflesh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423596

>>22423567
Read Poul Anderson, just to make the roasties seethe.

>> No.22423599
File: 1.23 MB, 1560x1118, bakker.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423599

How could Bakker do this scifisistahs?

>> No.22423601

>>22423595
Learn what?
People read fantasy to self insert

>> No.22423602

>>22423601
Then by definition you are a manlet if you read Tolkien.

>> No.22423604
File: 1.43 MB, 1560x1118, 12 coppers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423604

Yes... we are BACK, Bakkerchads!

>> No.22423606

>>22423602
Yes? I'm fat too, like Sam.

>> No.22423607
File: 1.03 MB, 1698x2523, de080b30e7b1ed577a586c032e3a6320.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423607

>>22423039
whats /lit/ opinion on the chronicles of amber ?
i read it like 10 years ago and really loved it,such a shame it ends on a huge cliff hanger and zelazny died before finishing it.

>> No.22423608

Who gives a shit? I don't exist just to spite others. I do that effortlessly.

>> No.22423610

>>22423602
I read Bakker because I'm a rapist.

>> No.22423613

>>22423578
don't like horror movies

>> No.22423621
File: 1.82 MB, 1560x1512, no nails.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423621

Jesus... These can't be real women, can they? Look at the fucking state of their nails. Must be a tranny trying to fit in with the "gals"

>> No.22423626

>>22423604
it reads like some coomer shit.

>> No.22423630

>>22423626
There isn't any god. There is only lust and sin and big cocks raping whorish (weak) women.

>> No.22423632

I feel burned out bros
I've read like 900 pages in the last 2 weeks with a 12hr job and i want to kill myself for wanting to quit both
Any advice on this situation?

>> No.22423640

>>22423632
>>>/adv/

>> No.22423641

>>22423632
This thread is populated by unemployed autists. We don't know what a 40 hour week is.

>> No.22423642

>>22423604
This is my problem with most "dark fantasy" The dialogue is atrocious shit. It's literally less comprehensible than schizos on 4chan. People rarely talk like this and if they do; there is some context that you need to tell us.
This kind of stilted dialogue doesn't read, at all.

>> No.22423648
File: 2.48 MB, 1560x1340, grrm honey.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423648

>NO! YOU CAN'T WRITE THAT PUBESCENT GIRLS ARE FERTILE! NOOOOO!~~~ BIOLOGY ISN'T REAL BUT TRUST THE SCIENCE!!!~~~

>> No.22423647

>>22423641
I asked for suicide methods. Surely you know one or two things about that.

>> No.22423651

>>22423632
Just read less?
You won't miss anything

>> No.22423657
File: 7 KB, 225x225, images (4).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423657

>>22423621
>at least forty inches of them

>> No.22423658

>>22423648
just stay on reddit if you like posting about it this much

>> No.22423659

>>22423647
1. take your disability payment and spend it on a small package at the firing range
2. when you arrive, sign the waiver, and are instructed on safety, quickly take the gun and aim it into your unemployed, disabled mouth
3. pull the trigger quickly, aim for the back of the throat, upward at a slight degree
Goodnight, sweet prince.

>> No.22423666

>>22423642
Is it so hard to write
"I'll give you twelve talents of copper"
Or if you do want short dialog. "twelve talents. copper"
And what is this haggling
>"I'll give you 12 bucks"
>"120"
>"You are ugly"
>"yes"
>"what?"
>"just give me the 12 bucks hurry"
>cums immediatly (even though women can't orgasm)

>> No.22423667

>>22423658
>t. seething roastie

>> No.22423694

>>22423657
3’4” of her body would probably include her abdomen and princess parts

>> No.22423701

>>22423666
>even though women can't orgasm
t. Dicklet

>> No.22423706

>>22423657
>>22423621
This is bad writing. Here is how cup sizes work
You measure the ribcage(band size) and then the ribcage and the breast, your cup is the absolute difference between those measurements. A cup is 1 inch difference, B is 2, ..., G is 7 and so on
So she could have an A40 if she had a 39" ribcage
30" Is average for women, and she is only 15, so lets assume that, then she has 10 inches of breasts and she is an J cup, and 40J would be the bra she needs.
>>22423694
see above

>> No.22423709

>>22423706
https://stylewithchar.com/wpcontent/uploads/2022/04/4-1024x1024.png

>> No.22423711

>>22423706
>fifteen year old therefore small breasts
What? She could just be really fat too.

>> No.22423714

>>22423709
https://stylewithchar.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/4-1024x1024.png

>> No.22423719

>>22423711
Being fat doesn't change your ribsize bro. Also reread the post.

>> No.22423727

>>22423719
How doesn’t a bra change according to how fat you are? Female women tend to store fat in the tits.

>> No.22423733

>>22423711
It's bad writing because he gives ribcage+breasts measurement when talking about "two objects" which would imply only breasts. And of course the former doesn't even imply a breast size, so she could be completely flat.
>>22423727
And the tits aren't part of the ribcage. Are you being intentionally dumb because your favorite shilled goyslop author is retarded?

>> No.22423737

>>22423523
>Name one example of a japanese live action that is shit
Uzumaki

>> No.22423743

>>22423733
>>22423733
Except she’s described as “buxom” elsewhere and it’s probably already obvious to the reader that she’s fully developed with massive cans.
>goyslop
He’ll be remembered for a millennium more than you ever will. Even Shakespeare wrote entertainment for the lowly.

>> No.22423758
File: 49 KB, 576x533, 8ECE2E9D-5BB3-4C2B-8073-3E1B1144EB5A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423758

Really, he should have specified the under bust and across bust, maybe even the shape… hmm what a bad writer indeed.

>> No.22423774

>>22423743
>Obvious to the reader
Okay then don't give any measurement at all, why is this proto-chink padding out his novels?

>> No.22423788

>>22423743
>Even Shakespeare wrote entertainment for the lowly.
Ah, yes, Queen Elizabeth the lowly.

>> No.22423799

>>22423788
He never sucked up to Elizabeth like Spenser. He was more interested in the Kings of his day. I think Elizabeth barely even funded him as much.

>> No.22423812

>>22423799
What about fucking Henry VIII you dumb fuck? The entire play is sucking up to the Elizabeth faction.

>> No.22423835

>>22423812
A large bulk of his most known work was performed, or at least finished, after she died: Othello, Hamlet, King Lear, Macbeth, Anthony and Cleopatra, Coriolanus. I don't know why this is contentious. He even only came to real prominence with the "King's Men" under James.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Men_(playing_company)
I guess the Henriad is sucking up to Tudors, but it's not all he wrote.

>> No.22423841

>>22423835
ricky 3 is also tudor dickriding tbf

>> No.22423848

>>22423841
>>22423812
Also Henry VIII was only written years after she died. Maybe he felt a commitment to honour her father a decade after she died, which I think would show his respect for her. Or maybe he was paid for it for some sort of remembrance.
>Most modern scholars date Henry VIII to 1613, the year in which the Globe Theatre burned down during one of the play's earliest known performances. One contemporary report states that the play was new at the time of the fire, having "been acted not passing 2 or 3 times before".

>> No.22423865

>>22423848
Or it was to gain favor with her supporters. In any case; not the lowly plebs.

>> No.22423875

>>22423865
>not the lowly plebs
Why does he have lower class retards throughout? Even the Henriad has Falstaff, who even gets to call Richard vulgar nicknames. So many upper class characters seem to find wisdom in dumb jesters or outright idiots. It's like doing fan service to normies now, by affirming what they already believe, or by telling them "you are right in everything you do, the world needs someone just like you"

>> No.22423877

>>22423875
call Henry vulgar nicknames* oops

>> No.22423887

>>22423875
Something for the degenerate upper class to laugh to and get off on.

>> No.22423928
File: 344 KB, 1049x787, dunes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22423928

I decided not to make a whole thread for this, but I'm super excited. I finally got all the Dune books. What am I in for?

>> No.22423933

>>22423928
Just read book 1 and sell the rest

>> No.22423948

>>22423928
You forgot to buy all of his son's books

>> No.22423958

>>22423948
I'm not really into fanfiction.

>> No.22423961

>>22423928
Good science-fiction.

>> No.22423986

I got a bucketload of books from a friend of mine about a year, and so i have a bunch of old paperbacks. The ones I haven't read yet are
> Otherland Series, by Tad Williams
> Good Omens, by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett
> The Pilalrs of the Earth, by Ken Follett
> The Songs of Distant Earth, by Arthur C. Clarke
> Stardust, by Neil Gaiman
> The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, by Stephen R. Donaldson
> Enders Game, by Orson Scott Card
> The Swords Trilogy, by Michael Moorcock
Which one should I read next?

>> No.22424019

>>22423986
Pillars
Although if you know nothing about Thomas Covenant it'd be good to read it before you find anything out

>> No.22424024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z65rDDrXfjY
Fuck.... the world is grim...dark.... fucking hell... why do I live? To suffer, to die, to sleep?

>> No.22424077

>>22424019
>if you know nothing about Thomas Covenant it'd be good to read it before you find anything out
I know the protagonist has leprosy and absolutely hates the fact that he's been transported to a new world, and that the book has become somewhat controversial in the last few years in it's portrayals of some things (which means absolutely nothing)
But I don't know anything about the plot itself

>> No.22424085

>>22424077
Read it now then

>> No.22424095

>>22424085
Are all of the Thomas Covenant books worth reading? I have the First and the Second Trilogies

>> No.22424123

>>22424095
Yeah if you like them you won't suddenly dislike them, just keep in mind that if you do dislike them they never suddenly turn into something else to justify reading something you didn't like.

>> No.22424207

>>22424123
Nice, good to know. Unless something changes I'll be reading Thomas Covenant then (as soon as I finish my current book)

>> No.22424230

>>22423928
I'd rather a short stint in prison than read all 6 of them

>> No.22424236

>>22423648
can she talk about how Medieval people used to see the world lmao

>> No.22424243

>>22423494
lmao

>> No.22424312
File: 140 KB, 640x462, BKTG14755.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22424312

>>22423494
Are the Callahan books good? They look fun.

>> No.22424460

Are there any authors that love writing about schools as much as I love reading about them? In books like Wizard of Earthsea or Name of the Wind, I'm always a bit upset when they leave whatever institute of learning I'd just spent hours falling in love with.

>> No.22424485

>>22424460
J K Rowling

>> No.22424494

>>22424485
She stopped caring about the learning and the actual magic fairly quick. Plus I read them all 100 times when I was a kid.

>> No.22424532
File: 20 KB, 415x415, fae8017a590abbc3f750f3dd0fd98668.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22424532

>Earth has been ravaged by global warming
>traditional guns still clearly superior but they use lasers because... they just do, ok??
>characters reference literature and history only up until 1950 even though it's 2772

>> No.22424543

>>22424532
Lasers are good because they don't ricochet

>> No.22424549

>>22424543
Light does in fact ricochet, it's called reflection.

>> No.22424570

>>22424494
lol I was trolling bro

>> No.22424576

>>22424570
I know it would be cool to shit on Harry Potter now, but those books did a lot for me as a kid. Doesn't mean I'm going to read them again though.

>> No.22424613

>>22424576
I remember them as a kid, they were OK but they're basically a woman's take on a man's field

>> No.22424639

>>22423513
Yes. I don't think I've seen it done well though

>> No.22424658

>>22423068
Reading is for FAGS

>> No.22424682

>>22423928
Give me some sci fi and fantasy recs brother? I like the look of your shelf.

>> No.22424699

>>22424682
i'm about to go to bed, but i promise i'll get back to you tomorrow if this thread doesn't die. if it does die, i'll make a thread specifically devoted to replying to you.

>> No.22424733

>>22424699
Much appreciated

>> No.22424782

>>22424699
it won't die this is a recurring thread after every 2~ish days for years now

>> No.22424784

>>22423604
Do people orgasm when they're stabbed with knives?

>> No.22424800

>>22424784
it's a metaphor for penetrating you stupid bastard and that particular case is some sort of creature that has the power to make women cum instantly iirc

>> No.22424802

>>22424784
Wanna try it out? You can slide down my knife if you catch my drift.

>> No.22425114
File: 34 KB, 292x389, 1445878748467.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22425114

>> No.22425347

>>22425114
Best thing chinks ever did

>> No.22425503
File: 607 KB, 1528x807, read.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22425503

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

>> No.22425513
File: 339 KB, 891x686, LITRPG.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22425513

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

>> No.22425537

>>22425503
>>22425513
I really should just start forcing my taste in these threads

>> No.22425586

>>22424549
It being reflected wouldn’t be a perfect transfer of energy as it would still dump a significant amount into the mirror. Also it would likely lead to the rapid degradation of the mirror if it wasn’t rated to dissipate the heat being generated on its surface.
>>22424532
I bet the reasoning around why they use lasers even though slug throwers are better is due to how cheap they would be. You can always reuse a charge pack if they are designed that way, and cased projectiles can be expensive.

>> No.22425593

>>22425586
>It being reflected wouldn’t be a perfect transfer of energy
A ricochet from a bullet isn't a perfect transfer of energy either. Light can and does regularly reflect off things that are not mirrors.

>> No.22425618

>>22423928
>Brian Lumley
I'm thinking based.

>> No.22425639
File: 135 KB, 465x415, depp-facepalm_face.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22425639

>>22423039
>mfw I've read some Hugo nominees for this year

Specifically
>Even Though I Knew the End
>The Difference Between Love and Time
>The Kaiju Preservation Society
>A Dream of Electric Mothers
>What Moves the Dead
>Nettle & Bone

Not only are good ones at best just average, but should under no circumstances be nominated for any awards. Has modern genre literature fallen so far?

>> No.22425657

>>22425639
>Has modern genre literature fallen so far?
Yes, scifi has been shit since 1995

>> No.22425680

Motherfuck Vance, motherfuck Eddings, motherfuck Saintcrow,
Now here come's my left blow.

>> No.22425694
File: 226 KB, 620x1000, 91PDqM7+T9L._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22425694

Have you guys read The Expanse? I watched some reviews on it today and it seems like a pretty cool sci-fi series. What are your thoughts on the books?

>> No.22425710

>>22425694
>What are your thoughts on the books?
I want to impregnate Avasarala

>> No.22425711

>>22425694
You can just watch the show desu, books don't add much to what it does.

>> No.22425712

>>22425694
First book is decent, sci fi horror mixed with detective novel. Gets significantly worse every book however. By the third book, one of the primary characters is a lesbian feminist ninja nun. Spends several (LONG) books bogged down in the social justice crusade of space BLM, and despite the author clearly wanting you to sympathize with the belters, ultimately they just come across as absolute niggers who deserve to be exterminated.

Not worth reading.

>> No.22425727

>>22425712
>despite the author clearly wanting you to sympathize with the belters
huh?
They literally went total earth death by book 5

>> No.22425730

>>22425639
diversity (women and minorities) is preferable to meritocracy

>> No.22425733

>>22425712
I can't tell if you're being genuine or spouting random buzzwords to discourage people from reading the series

>> No.22425749

>>22425694
One dude told it’s hard sci fi but only because they made magnets for holding enough anti matter for a weapon (despite the fact magnets can’t hold all anti matter in place to be injected into fissile material anyway)
Sounds like slop

>> No.22425767

>>22425593
It won’t be a perfect reflection, when light refracts it will distort and not all the light comes off at the same angle so you’ll have it be significantly weaker again on top of the energy transfer it has already done into the mirror. All of this isn’t even taking into account the fact that doing this in an atmosphere is highly inefficient. Since every particle of air could bend and distort the beam making it highly inaccurate and weak as distance is increased.
>>22425694
Good series, it’s hard sci-fi with some hand waving. It’s written as if progressives trends continue, and with massive amounts of ethnic mixing. So the turbo tards usually get spun up pretty hard about the series being ‘pozzed’. The space combat is probably one of the more realistic depictions of what it’ll look like if we were to reach that equivalent tech level. Characters take some time to develop and if you enjoy the book by the end you will get pretty attached to some.

>> No.22425768

>>22425639
>>Nettle & Bone
this one is legitimately good. so much so I think it accidentally got bundled with all the rest of lgbtq nonsense.

>> No.22425769

>>22425767
>It won’t be a perfect reflection,
Nobody said it would.

>> No.22425803

Bookkinos that look nice on the shelf and get the ladies wet?

>> No.22425865

>>22425768
If you're lying to me I'll never forgive you.

>> No.22425886
File: 590 KB, 567x860, brando sando.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22425886

>>22425803
>*saves you*

>> No.22425963

>>22423928
Nice covers

>> No.22426034

I just started reading Sphere by Crichton. Since it’s genre fiction, I’m not really sure if it counts as “reading,” but I hope to get into literature soon enough.

>> No.22426046

>>22425694
Abraham written characters good, Franck written characters bad

>> No.22426051
File: 117 KB, 677x537, count grish.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22426051

What did you say about Bakker?

>> No.22426110

>>22425886
He's wearing white New Balance sneakers, isn't he?

>> No.22426165
File: 799 KB, 1500x2052, 1691600005201862.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22426165

>>22426110
What's wrong with white New Balance sneakers?

>> No.22426174

>>22425886
Needs a sonichu pendant or a lanyard with a Magic the Gathering Black Lotus inside a protective sleeve

>> No.22426178

>>22426110
>>22426165
Only Ameriggers cares about shoes yall weird

>> No.22426182

>>22423039
Rats in the Walls has, by far, the best ending in Lovecraft’s corpus
>>22426034
Read what you want. Crichton is usually categorised as a type of Thriller or blend of it, so you should be interested in the plot. If you don’t like it, try read around and see what you like. Read for fun. It’s a short life after all.

>> No.22426196

>>22425639
>read some Hugo nominees for this year
YOU'VE DONE THAT YOURSELF

>> No.22426203

>>22425639
It’s because no one here bothers to engage with SF circles meaningfully. There should be book clubs and people going to conventions, meeting writers and editors, and getting organised to vote for best novel/story/magazine. Instead you get incessant whining about “Le modernity sucks” instead of trying to do anything about it.

>> No.22426220

>>22426203
What you've gotta remember as well is that the really aggressive anti-hugos people were absolute freaks who were also pushing absolute dogshit books.
You're never gonna see people who just dislike writers like Scalzi organizing with them.

>> No.22426266
File: 277 KB, 768x1198, The-Colour-of-Magic-FINAL-768x1198.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22426266

Lads...

>> No.22426270

>>22426220
>What you've gotta remember as well is that the really aggressive anti-hugos people were absolute freaks who were also pushing absolute dogshit books.
can you list some of these books?

>> No.22426272

>>22426220
>who were also pushing absolute dogshit books.
This, both the new woke scifi and new """based""" scifi books are fucking awful. Both sides can't see the real problem about how they are being manipulated to attack each other, all the schizo writers of old could see it clearly but the new authors can't.
Scifi died in the 20th century

>> No.22426279
File: 68 KB, 1200x906, 67330587_706097686470882_1539164834044575744_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22426279

>>22425639
There has been an enormous push across the entire industry to select for diversity and political conformity over merit. Just look at the last ten years of winners for best novel and tell me if it passes the smell test for 'these were simply the absolute best writers for this year':
>2022 - fat lesbian
>2021 - woman
>2020 - fat lesbian
>2019 - woman
>2018 - black woman
>2017 - black woman
>2016 - black woman
>2015 - chinese guy
>2014 - woman
>2013 - John Scalzi

All incredibly liberal and progressive. All democrats. All support LGBT and racial justice crap. The 2016-2018 black woman (the same woman won all three) openly says her writing is about 'cultural conflict and oppression'.

It's all just a joke at this point.

>> No.22426287

>>22426272
I ask you as well, post some of these books?
I have seen strong antihugo sentiment often enough, but those people hardly ever recommend (or push) anything

>> No.22426296

The Hugo Awards are the new Grammy awards.

>> No.22426297

>>22426279
Everyone agrees that they're a joke except the couple thousand Hugo voters themselves, though for varying reasons.

>> No.22426324

>>22426266
Sad many such cases

>> No.22426339

>>22426270
Off the top of my head the vox day books and the monster hunter ones. (It all started over the MH books which was their original sin, those suck and weren't being left out of awards because of politics but because they were bad pulp)
The first year was when the real dogshit was obvious, by the second year they were already switching tactics to 'pushing' for books that would probably make nominee anyway and claiming it did so because of them

>> No.22426348
File: 131 KB, 552x810, 36869307.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22426348

Phoresis - Greg Egan (2018)

Phoresis is another of Egan's extremely science based books. In this case the novella is told in three parts covering many generations, each representing a different phase of an epic feat of interplanetary engineering in the form of connecting two nearby planets. The speculation about engineering, physics, geology, and earth sciences is all that matters. It's to the point where all the characters are more or less interchangeable and probably only exist so that it isn't a sole character monologuing all the time. There's almost nothing at all besides the practical matters of their many lives long projects, so expecting anything other that would be a mistake.

I tried reading this before, though I wasn't able to get very far. It was a struggle to read this and it probably wasn't worthwhile for me personally, but I wanted to do anyway. Egan's more science based works are usually a miss for me. Even so, sometimes it's possible to get a weird sense of pleasure from just letting all the explanations wash over you. That wasn't so much the case here for me. I have no doubt that it's far more interesting for those who'd have a specific interest in the experiments detailed by the novella. Not every book is for every reader and several of Egan's are clear examples of that, yet I persist in trying even for those that clearly aren't for me.

As with some of Egan's other writings, starting with his first published work, how reproduction functions for the species of this book could be considered body horror in human terms. You might think the engineering project depicted on the cover might have something with the title, but that'd be wrong. It's their reproductive system that it's referring to. All the characters are female, in the sense that they're the ones who give birth. All the males, in the sense of that which impregnates, have separate bodies, and live inside the female for the duration of their lives and only emerge to procreate. To say that this species is sexually dimorphic is an extreme understatement. There's a single sex scene and what it made me imagine based on what was written was honestly horrific, and even more so based on what's later described.

I'd like to read everything Egan has written despite that being rather difficult for me due to there being some such as this. Yes, it's an arbitrary and irrational idea, and one that I don't know that I'll be able to do, though I want to try anyway. There's already been a few that I don't know if I'll ever go back to though. Even if I don't enjoy all of what Egan does, I appreciate that someone is writing stories like this. That's an abstract idea of questionable merit as well, especially considering when he's written other books of wider appeal, but I think a creative should do what they want. That's arguably not in the best interest of anyone, which may just be one of the costs of having unrestricted creative freedom.

Rating: 2/5

>> No.22426369

>>22426279
To me it's comical how we went from winners being the likes of Dune, Ringworld and Neuromancer to whatever the fuck passes for good novels these days. Hells, Hugo's full fledged novel category isn't even the worst one since you can at least find couple of decent nominees.

>> No.22426413

>>22426279
based Nat poster

>> No.22426423
File: 35 KB, 620x394, conan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22426423

>>22426413
Fuck off, chaser. This is a strictly heterosexual bio essentialist thread.

>> No.22426465

>>22426348
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

>> No.22426538

>>22426339
I just looked it up on shitreads and the MH reviews are very mixed. The usual offended roasties rate it as 1, for others it's 5/5. We can disregard these but someone mentioned it to be very mary sue and white male wish fulfilment? To me that sounds like some coomer trash. Can /sffg/ give honest opinion on these books?

>> No.22426543
File: 38 KB, 452x679, images (4) (7).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22426543

>>22423039
Anons I need some help, I want to get into urban fantasy, but I finished picrel and the writing and prose was infantile. I mean, sure, okish plot but he writes like a teenage fanfic writer. Any good recommendations in the genre?

>> No.22426548

>>22426348
>It's their reproductive system that it's referring to. All the characters are female, in the sense that they're the ones who give birth. All the males, in the sense of that which impregnates, have separate bodies, and live inside the female for the duration of their lives and only emerge to procreate.
sounds like some pozzed tranny shit. I have added this to my 'won't read' list.

>> No.22426553

>>22426543
Urban Fantasy is a deceptive genre. It doesn't mean what you'd think and it originated out of paranormal romance.

>> No.22426557

>>22426543
The writing improves after the first book. I too nearly dropped it after reading Storm Front.

>> No.22426559

>>22426548
I'm glad that it was useful for you.

>> No.22426564

>>22426543
Butcher has steadily improved over the years but his early work can be hard to sit through. Both Codex and Dresden suffer from a really rough first book.

>> No.22426571

>>22426538
it's just pulpy libertarian popcorn reads try one out, they're short

>> No.22426578

>>22426110
NBs are the comfiest shoes I've ever worn, highly recommend

>> No.22426607

>>22426578
personally I found that those big bulky (not the running type trainers) nike air max leasure trainers are comfiest for every day casual use. For running and any kind of sports activity asics are the best

>> No.22426617

>>22426348
your !!!reviews!!! are a HIT
FUCK YEAH

>> No.22426640

>>22426617
I am starting to like them! Let the repressed homofeminist read and review all the pozzed books so we won't have to.

>> No.22426682

>>22426279
>over merit
If it was left up to whites they would just pick shit like LOTR and GOT (muh veiled racism, 15-year-old with 10+ inches of breast, muh stabing with knife=immediate orgasm from a whore) every year. Just pick xianxia and webnovels

>> No.22426706

>>22426682
>xianxia and webnovels
BASED. I WILL SPEND MORE TIME READING THAN IT WOULD TAKE FOR EVERY TOLKIEN BOOK BUT WITH NO REAL PAYOFF OR WORLD BUILDING.

>> No.22426716

>>22426706
xanxia and webnovels have loads of worldbuilding
that's the strength of infinite word count

like you could've said literally anything else and point scored

>> No.22426748
File: 45 KB, 720x480, Grrm (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22426748

WHY WON'T HE FINNISH

>> No.22426757

>>22426748
wildcards isn't supposed to have an end, why would he finish it?

>> No.22426780

>>22426757
What's wildcards

>> No.22426790

>>22426607
I have to stand for work 10 hrs a day and while NBs are comfy, the absolute peak comfy I've found has been Ultraboosts

>> No.22426807

>>22426706
>>22426716
World building Martial World is very traditional, extensive and comfy. The novel is worth reading just for that.

>> No.22426822

>>22426780
GRRM+Friends long running collaborative superhero short story universe.
Started with them playing a tabletop game and using it as a writing prompt. Quality is all over the place but some of the stories like Zelazny's are really good.

Mentioned it because every single time he promotes a new WC anthology all the replies are full of ASOIAF fans seething that he's not working on their book.

>> No.22426840

>>22426543
>Any good recommendations in the genre?
Everything emma bull and Charles DeLint and Nightside Series by Simon R Green.
Be aware that i fucking hate Urban fantasy.

>> No.22426846

>>22426807
>>22426716
>He took 1000KM in a single step
>1000 chapters and 4 major realms later
>he could cross 1000KM in a single leap

>> No.22426853

>>22426822
??

>> No.22426859

>>22426757
Wildcards has three endings, Dead Man's Hand, Dealer's Choice (KINO) and Black Trump. You can stop reading wildcards after any of these and you'll still have a satisfying ending

>> No.22426884
File: 62 KB, 357x600, outlaw of gor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22426884

I read the first 3 Gor books and don't want to continue. They're so dull outside of a few big moments. And Tarl went from a wishy-washy brooding nerd to a gigachad conqueror instantly. For such a dumb book it sure doesn't have much "fan service" if you know what I mean. People implied the books would be filled with big titty slave barbarian nymphos but Norman's writing is actually super tame.

Convince me to continue, anons. I already bought the next 3 books but I can't pick them up...

>> No.22426887

>>22426846
Are you referring to Martial World specifically or to general xanxia stereotypes?
What you described more often takes place in wuxia where magic system is loose and not really explained or even defined (think lotr). Xanxia often has defined cultivation stages with clearly defined limits.

>> No.22426909

>>22426748
Because he painted himself into a corner and has no idea how to finish the series in a LE SUBVERSIVE XD way that isn't predictable or retarded. It's obvious now he was making everything up as he went along and was focused more on subverting expectations.

>> No.22426911

>>22426887
>xianxia
>cultivation stages with clearly defined limits
Sometimes I forget how retarded some of you are.

>> No.22426924

>>22426884
You're not trying to binging them are you? Stop it.

>> No.22426929

>>22426887
Maybe for the first few levels, but past say the equivalent of spirit severing it's a shitshow.

>> No.22426947

>>22426884
That's disappointing, I figured based on the way people talk about Gor it would be coomer kino.

>> No.22426955

Someone rec a cultivation novel where cultivation actually feels hard and the protagonist spends hundreds of chapters at each subrank qi cond 1, Qi cond 2 ... qi cond 10. But the subranks are pretty strong (you can fly after qi cond 2), yet the story still goes til at least 8 major ranks so at least 8000 chapters.
>>22426947
Boomers wouldn't know coomer kino if it slapped them in the face with its giant cock.

>> No.22426956
File: 459 KB, 1186x1780, B09887Z314_f8c39828_cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22426956

>>22426543
>Any good recommendations in the genre?
I recently finished pic related and enjoy it. It's a collection of short stories with no overarching plot. There's also no reddit-tier hijinks like the Dresden Files; the MC is a competent cop with no magic powers and each story is more like a police procedural. Also the setting is different from your average urban fantasy world in that it takes place on a fantasy world instead of Earth that naturally evolved into mid 20th century or so technology. Not recommended if you like your urban fantasy over the top like Dresden Files; this is 'low level' urban fantasy with the MC spending more time doing paperwork and sleuthing than getting into shootouts with wizards and monsters (though that stuff does happen).

>> No.22426979

>>22423069
Is that Kull and Brule?

>>22423648
Lol the point of that dialogue is that those characters are despicable rapists. It's meant to be disgusting.

>> No.22427008

>>22426979
No, the purpose is that his description of her is titillating to make you want to have her as your wife. Disgust is the exact opposite.

>> No.22427014

>>22426543
Anita Blake Vampire Hunter books 1-9.

>> No.22427038

>>22426979
>Is that Kull and Brule?
Obviously.

>> No.22427061

>>22423069
>only a hundred millenia
So just enough time for the mc to get from mid core cultivation to late core cultivation? And why waste your time killing fish monsters when you could be cultivating? IDG grug comics.

>> No.22427071

>>22427061
Xianxia would actually be cool if you could see the fruits of the mc's actions in the mortal world after timeskips. But no, being chased into a secret world by some ancient hidden sect expert for 200 chapters is much better aaaaaaa

>> No.22427083
File: 283 KB, 720x540, 1693163260405.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22427083

Bros... Should i?

>> No.22427111

>>22426924
No. I read book 1 last September, book 2 in December, and the 3rd one in February this year. I bought the next 3 but can't bring myself to open them up. I want to like them but it's difficult. Where are the boobies and gore? I expected hardcore BDSM and pulpy monsters and magic.
>>22426947
I mean, maybe it gets good later on, but I shouldn't have to read 3, or 8, or 20, or whatever books to get there. That's why I'm asking anons with familiarity. If it takes more than 3 more books to "flesh" out, if you know what I mean, then I won't bother.

>> No.22427230

>>22426956
>It's a collection of short stories with no overarching plot
No, thanks.

>> No.22427267

>>22427071
cultivators advance by encountering special events and taking advantage of opportunities, advancing in a mortal world by normal means would take too long and produce poor results. The other option is to be a grandson of a patriarch at a major sect and get all the magic pills from sect for free, obviously this isn't very exciting.

>> No.22427401

>>22426165
nothing, as long as you're not pairing them with a leather jacket or duster

>> No.22427420
File: 282 KB, 595x900, dan_dos_santos_night_broken.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22427420

>>22427014
Those are unironically really good.
Also Patricia Briggs' Mercy Thompson books. I guess they aren't particularly "urban" but I think they'd still be put in the category.

>> No.22427444

>>22427230
f-fine...

>> No.22427474

>>22427267
Irrelevant, you could take 10 chapters out of an extended chase scene to return to the mortal world and find their dao or someshit while describing how everyone from mc's sect has a giant dick.

>> No.22427487

>>22427474
You are not making sense.

>> No.22427510
File: 2.33 MB, 2000x3000, Fantasy Guide.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22427510

>>22426543

>> No.22427527

Anybody read dystopia yet?

>> No.22427554
File: 542 KB, 1006x1528, conan hour.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22427554

>>22427061
I'm glad I don't know what any of that means.

>> No.22427556

What books do you guys have with magical engineering?

>> No.22427574

>>22427556
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/98372.Magical_Engineering

>> No.22427591

>>22427574
Already used that ages ago.

>> No.22427617

>>22427556
Just read https://libgen.is/search.php?req=engineering and play pretend

>> No.22427650
File: 40 KB, 567x565, IMG_1192.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22427650

>>22423068
>everyone i don't like is a hack
>t. incapable of writing anything that anyone anywhere cares about

>> No.22427655

>>22427650
NTA but only editors of magazines praise my work and I never get much feedback if ever from random people, likely because they don't take time out of their day to read my stories in magazines. It's not that easy to garner an audience, but I will keep trying....

>> No.22427730

>>22427655
editors are payed, by you, dumbfuck

>> No.22427753

>>22427730
Funny, he paid me. Did you think editor meant someone who line edits? You are a fucking idiot. I even said "editor of a magazine" to be clear.

>> No.22427775

>>22427753
If he paid you then his opinion matters. The opinions of random people who may or may not read your work are irrelevant, you should not care about them.

>> No.22427811

>>22427775
I guess so. I just want the culture around speculative fiction to change because it's just a buffer zone for the culture wars now. It's pretty tiring to see progressive politics hamfisted into books, especially horror where it has no place, for no reason but to make the writer more palatable for commercialism.
You can actually find people (whether Bible thumpers or shitty knock-off anarchists) who never care about any fiction getting up in arms about a writer they've never read. It would be fun to be "obscene" and banned by these people, I guess, but they should keep their freak moralism to themselves.

>> No.22427888

I know nothing outside of Elric besides the casual basics regarding his relationship with his sword Stormbringer but I picked up The Weird of the White Wolf lately I was wondering if that would be an acceptable place or should I just buy the entire lot and eventually work my way towards it

>> No.22427910

>>22427888
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHB6kJQzjEs
You should just listen to men with thick accents on how to read.

>> No.22427916

I'm trying to remember the name of this scifi book i read long ago.

The main character goes to an alien planet and all of the aliens are essentially immortal. Because they can live forever, the death penalty is the only real punishment they have for crime.

Never finished it and it was a shlocky looking mass market paperback

>> No.22427965

>>22427888
If you have a low IQ and can't tell good fiction from bad fiction then read Elric in chronological order. But I'm telling you the truth; Moorcock NEVER intended Elric to be read chronologically regardless of what that old retarded commie says. And the quality of later Elric stories pales in comparison to the earlier Elric stories.

>> No.22427979

Is that guy ever gonna post his sci fi and fantasy recs?

>> No.22428016

>>22427979
Yeah. Here you go.
Patrick, Rothfuss - Name of the Wind
Weeks, Brent - The Black Prism
Weeks, Brent - The Way of Shadows
Sanderson, Brandon - The Emperor's Soul
Sanderson, Brandon - Warbreaker
Brown, William E. - Fimbulwinter
Mieville, China - Perdido Street Station
Watts, Peter - Blindsight
Watts, Peter - Echopraxia
Fuller, Brian K. - The Complete Trysmoon Saga
Robinson, Kim Stanley - New York 2140

>> No.22428023

>>22427811
What you want is impossible without our society going through a complete reset.

>> No.22428025

>>22428016
low effort

>> No.22428032

>Brown, William E. - Fimbulwinter

Added >>22428016 to my 'won't read' list

>> No.22428034

>>22428023
Cultural decline happens all the time. I view it as cyclic. We're just in a cultural winter, but a new spring might come forth.

>> No.22428037

>>22428016
Wait are you the same guy? I want that specific guy with the cool shelf to post his list. I do like some of these, what did you like about Perdido street station BTW?

>> No.22428041
File: 1.20 MB, 1290x1512, fimbulwinter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22428041

>>22428032
>Warning: This novel contains graphic violence, inventive sex, unconventional opinions and a protagonist who has no interest in being normal. Read at your own risk.
>Tags: fantasy, harem, magic, erotica
Your loss.

>> No.22428073

>>22427083
It's shit so no.

>> No.22428078

>>22427083
It's based so yes.

>> No.22428080

>>22428034
More like cultural ice age that has just begun.

>> No.22428176

>>22428041
What loss? lol, I have read better IT outsourcing greentexts on /g/ and the whole cheating wife situation is so unbelievable and poorly written, why didn't he just go to reddit and copy one of those larping migtow posts?
The writing is increadibly bad, to this day I don't get the tone of the novel, it reads like really bad parody but it is also tries to be somewhat serious. I can understand the author having no writing ability and no skills but the reception this novel got is just unbelievable. Just how much of a simpleton people have to be read this garbage?
With added harem and erotica this novel can be considered western WMW.

>> No.22428234

>>22423648
His best character is the little girl

>> No.22428266

>>22428234
It's funny he thinks his best character is Tyrion because it's this sarcastic, horny, freakish self-insert that gets to say what he really thinks.

>> No.22428320

Rhialto the Marvellous - is it worth reading?

>> No.22428324

>>22427420
>that womb tattoo
Sometimes you just know

>> No.22428334
File: 3.77 MB, 3130x5967, goats of glory 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22428334

>> No.22428375

>>22428324
kys degen

>> No.22428424

>>22428375
>degen
That is what thou art, and what thou wilt be. As naked acolytes of Bakker beat unhallowed gongs, the verve of passion rises within thy loins. As priestesses of Jezebels moan, the Phallic processions begin to chant and move. As dark hierophants bringeth curved knives, the women moan licentiously upon the altars where they are dissected and disemboweled. The infernal seed of desire drips across the whore's face as whooping gaggles of cacodemonic entities shove their barbed organs into their cunts. We fuck and stink and cum against the Light. We are the darkness that comes.

>> No.22428484

>>22428375
Being a degen is a way to regen

>> No.22428489
File: 63 KB, 313x500, 2 in 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22428489

Welcome to the beast house, Anons, please kindly shut the door after yourself and hang your coats on the stuff monkey.

>> No.22428501

>>22428489
Welcome to be becoming a beast, anons, please kindly shut your hearts after yourself, and hang your foes on the stuffed monkey.

>> No.22428517

>>22426884
i've tried reading these and never got past the second book. there are a lot of things about them that i really like, but they're so forgettable.

>> No.22428528
File: 242 KB, 329x380, 1680022609038314.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22428528

>>22428517
>>22426884
>Never going to unlock the secrets of the Second Knowledge

>> No.22428541

>>22427083
It's meh so eh

>> No.22428582

>>22424733
i know it's late but i did not forget about you. my recommendations, in no particular order, are:

the knight and the wizard by gene wolfe
on a pale horse by piers anthony
flameweaver and changeweaver by margaret ball
johannes cabal the necromancer and johannes cabal the detective by jonathan l howard
the animorphs and everworld series by k.a. applegate
the necroscope series by brian lumley
the wizardry series by rick cook
titus groan and gormenghast by mervyn peake
the night's dawn trilogy by peter f. hamilton
jewels of the dragon, crown of the serpent, and lair of the cyclops by allen l. wold
the netheril trilogy by clayton emery
the paksenarrion trilogy by elizabeth moon
the monster hunter international series by larry correia
the leviathan trilogy by scott westerfeld
spellfire by ed greenwood
wyvern by a.a. attanasio
the michael kane mars books by michael moorcock
snow crash by neal stephenson
the hellboy comics
the requiem vampire knight comics


most or all of this is probably pretty well-known and should be easy enough to find if you don't already own them. in any case, if anything i've recommended piques your interest and ends up being something you enjoy, then i'm glad.

>> No.22428598

>>22428489
These books are terrible apparently.

>> No.22428611

>>22428598
>These books are terrible apparently.
They're seen as terrible by moralfags. I don't go in expecting good prose though, because I don't need everything to be a high literary achievement.

>> No.22428644

>>22427556

The Magic Goes Away posits that magic used to be the basis of all technology we reached Peak Mana

>> No.22428667

>>22428611
I mean, some of Laymon's books are just horribly written. Island is ridiculously bad. But there are others that are pretty good. In The Dark has a great premise.

>> No.22428668

>>22428582
>the necroscope series by brian lumley
>titus groan and gormenghast by mervyn peake
>the netheril trilogy by clayton emery
>the paksenarrion trilogy by elizabeth moon
>wyvern by a.a. attanasio
>the hellboy comics
based
Always wanted to get into Night's Dawn, it's been on my tbr since forever, i should give it a try

>> No.22428673

>>22428667
>In the Dark
I think it was adapted into a movie by some fan but I don't know if it's any good. I like the idea too: the more dangerous/degenerate shit you do, the money doubles.

>> No.22428698
File: 2.15 MB, 2001x3881, Sci Fi Guide.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22428698

Maybe the point of recommendation charts were to make us feel that there was a path outside of us... but the true path was inside us, and we showed ourselves we could find it by veering off from the outside path... /sffg/ has taught us well...

>> No.22428722
File: 310 KB, 984x1450, 170 iq.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22428722

>> No.22428755

>>22426553
I thought that Urban Fantasy would be similar to the part from Black Company 2 where the guy is looking after the little girl and sneaking bodies to the weird growing castle.

>> No.22428756
File: 22 KB, 432x648, gene.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22428756

Don't let the "nice old grampus" facade fool you.
He would have shot you down in Korea if he thought you were a threat. Then he'd go on with his day.

>> No.22428765
File: 462 KB, 2560x1920, seal man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22428765

>>22428756

>> No.22428815

>>22428722
Is this a shitpost or is this guy dead serious?

>> No.22428844

>>22428815
Sometimes there isn't any difference between the two.

>> No.22428853

>>22428698
Nice introspective and delusional monologue.

>> No.22428859

>>22428080
Don't worry, you won't have to suffer long, becuse you won't be allowed to sit at the fire.

>> No.22428860

>>22427083
Why ask if you already own them? Don't solicit pep talks here.

>> No.22428864

>>22428853
I did take DXM.... What if we're all delusional?

>> No.22428866

>>22427916
All Crimes Lead To Death, by Sherman Naismith (1957)

>> No.22428868

>>22428864
It's not an if, it's a guarantee.

>> No.22428869

>>22427527
We ARE a dYStoPia

>> No.22428873

>>22428868
I actually had the worst comedown from LSD the other week and the only thing that made any sense was listening to PKD's schizophrenic rant at Metz and reading about how LSD is used by our society to create a chemical of temporary madness that they can control. It's all a system of control. The only thing is that the people at the helm are just as crazy as the rest of us.

>> No.22428879

>>22428873
Blessed be our chemical coma life.

>> No.22428903

>>22428815
It's too perfect not to be trolling.

>> No.22428929

Any xianxia where the main character (mortal) is trapped in a large cave system and almost starves before finding a cultivation method (and maybe a slow falling drop spirt water)
but every time he ranks up and tries to get out; through a series of wacky coincidences/hijinks he ends up getting caved in deeper and deeper down the cave where there are more and stronger monsters, until eventually he reaches the core of the planet, breaks through and refines it, turning the planet into his magical treasure, using it to create a staircase to the surface and beat up all the old cultivators who are shocked that someone managed to attain foo rank under their watch. Then a messenger immortal comes down (nobody on the planet knew that there were other planets, because the messenger immortal only appears when the planet gets a ruler through refining the core) and declares him ruler of the planet and that if he does well in an upcoming war he will become the disciple of Ching Ding, one of this small galaxy's managers.

Maybe a bit specific, but anything following these general plotpoints?

>> No.22428936

Just found out Zelazny and Delany are two different persons

>> No.22428940

>>22428929
Also I said he but it would probably be better if the mc was a loli/shota throughout the story. Not that it matters lol

>> No.22428951

>>22428176
How is this anything like Warlock of the Magus World?

>> No.22428961

>>22428936
GRRM talks about that here. Apparently Delany and Zelazny used to sign each other's books because people always mixed them up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V56WRApNUzM

>> No.22429007
File: 22 KB, 460x460, 1688540924460699.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22429007

The thought that I might waste time on a shit book makes me more likely to shitpost and waste even more time

>> No.22429015

>>22429007
If all books are shit, so you can't waste your time. Read Xianxia.

>> No.22429016

>>22429007
it's your life..................... (until I take it to power my talking sword, dystertmørkt)

>> No.22429020
File: 847 KB, 960x768, 1689618567675639.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22429020

Give me a book that
>is pure fantasy not scifi or post apocalyptic masquerading as fantasy
>has a male mc
>isn't some web novel/chinese/japanese shit
>was released in the last 5 years
>has a love interest
>gayshit is fine

>> No.22429031
File: 92 KB, 258x387, The_God_Is_Not_Willing_novel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22429031

>>22429020

>> No.22429033

>>22429031
I should have added hasn't been shilled endlessly already/isn't top of the head popular

>> No.22429102

>>22428673
>I think it was adapted into a movie by some fan but I don't know if it's any good
damn, it's probably terrible but I want to see it

>> No.22429109

>>22429102
It was popular in short film festivals, but it looks pretty low budget lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT90w7lGldU

>> No.22429125

>>22429020
Overgeared.

>> No.22429130

Does anybody have that rant some anon did here about the novel where all a girl does is max defense and she becomes #1 ranked in the vrmmorpg.

>> No.22429153

>>22426748
he forgor

>> No.22429157

>>22428929
Could be any cultivation novel.

>> No.22429168

>>22428940
>>22428929
Journey to the Center of the Earth by 儒勒凡尔纳

>> No.22429181

WHATS some actually good coomer kino with a decent story as well ?

>> No.22429186

>>22428041
>If I hadn't just had the most epically bad week
fucking dropped

>> No.22429188
File: 62 KB, 540x424, broken sword.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22429188

>>22429181
This has most common fetishes (incest, mature woman, interspecies, rape, etc)

>> No.22429209

>>22429181
dystopia by bernd lauret

>> No.22429215

>>22429209
https://asstr.xyz/files/Authors/Bernd_Lauert/

>> No.22429220

>>22429215
replace xyz with org for better reading experience.

>> No.22429294
File: 1.27 MB, 1125x1898, Brittany beach.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22429294

Fuck being in the southern hemisphere… I want it to be warm so I can read on the beach too.

>> No.22429342

>>22423599
If the Unholy Consult released coronavirus in the three seas would anyone who got the vaccine be eternally damned by the god of gods?

>> No.22429361

>>22423599
Bakker isn’t describing a woman here, but a skin spy with a raging boner. Also he’s writing from the POV of a pervert who’s jealous his mummy stopped fucking him and started fucking his cousin.

>> No.22429368

>>22429209
>>22429215
>>22429220
Nate, from the same guy is actual /gif/goontard kino

>> No.22429689

>>22429294
>reading on the beach
Not possible due to idiots blasting music everywhere.

>> No.22429824

>>22429689
You should go to better beaches

>> No.22429843

>>22429824
What are some good beaches?

>> No.22429856

>>22429843
qulensya socotra

>> No.22429906

>>22429843
I'd tell you but then you'd come to my favorite good beaches and then they'd turn into shit beaches

>> No.22429923

>>22429856
>Yemen
I guess it would be ok for locals (but do yemenis even go to the beach?) but for a foreign tourist is no go spot.

>> No.22429955

>"let's get into Asimov"
>Depending on the counting convention used, and including all titles, charts, and edited collections, there may be currently over 500 books in Asimov's bibliography—as well as his individual short stories, individual essays, and criticism.
>The Robot series was originally separate from the Foundation series.
>The Foundation series is a science fiction book series written by American author Isaac Asimov. First published as a series of short stories and novellas in 1942–50, and subsequently in three collections in 1951–53, for nearly thirty years the series was a trilogy: Foundation; Foundation and Empire; and Second Foundation.

Literally what the fuck, why is his bibliography so convoluted?

>> No.22430040

>>22429955
Because he was extremely autistic while also usually stoned out of his mind.

>> No.22430063
File: 144 KB, 200x300, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22430063

How would you describe Darrel's idea of "sorcery" as opposed to "magic"?

>> No.22430068

>>22429955
for the sole purpose of making good goys seethe

>> No.22430284

>>22429843
Llantwit's nice, bit windy for reading tho

>> No.22430348
File: 45 KB, 666x607, sammakko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22430348

>>22429209
>>22429215
kc tier

>> No.22430357
File: 409 KB, 1920x1440, 1161810_1000_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22430357

>>22430284
grim

>> No.22430358

Jack Vance is the most underrated science fiction/fantasy author. I know some people here have read him but it's sort of crazy how little known he is in general given how good and influential his work was. He literally created the magic system used by Dungeons and Dragons (Vancian magic.)

>> No.22430359
File: 20 KB, 248x248, Enervating_Charge_(large).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22430359

BORN TO CANT
CONSULT IS A FUCK
鬼神 Kill Em All 4132 Year-of-the-Tusk
I Am Mandati Man
478,637,782 CULLED SRANC

>> No.22430389

MAKE NEW THREAD FAST AAAAA