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so.... does /lit/ write?

Seriously, who writes? poetry, short stories, anything at all - who's got some? I am collecting material for a literary journal to be published next summer. There will be a small payment for the author of any work accepted, of course, and free copies to be had.

You should seriously think about it. Email me if you're interested or want to know more... the quality of literary journals is slipping, it's up to us to change things. If you've got something you want to be published, maybe now's your chance... email me, get $$$, be published.

>> No.2242090

just fyi /lit/ has an inhouse literary journal, TAR

also, tell me more about this project - is this something you're just starting up? by yourself or with other people? because if it's just starting up and by yourself, just join TAR and start paying people

>> No.2242100

What's the monetary compensation look like? If I'm going to edit some of my work to make it publishable I need to know if it's worth the effort

>> No.2242101

1) Print or electronic?
a. If electronic, do you have a website domain and design secured?
b. If print, do you have a printer and a designer secured?
c. If both, answer both above.
2. Have you solicited any authors for you first issue?
3. What's the planned duration of the magazine? Indefinite?

>> No.2242107

>>2242090

I haven't heard of TAR.... but I'm definitely interested in it. Fill me in?

I work with a letterpress company and they're going to letterpress the covers, and hire out the books themselves to an offset press. It will be a limited run - 500 or so, with limited distribution. It's just starting up, but it's not just me - and it might be just a one-off thing, it might be recurring, I'm not sure.

So is it bad form to solicit submissions for anything other than TAR here?

>> No.2242108

>>2242107

http://theaprilreader.org/

>> No.2242110

>>2242107
oh no it's totally fine, i just thought you should know that + really i mostly wanted to know more about the specifics of your project to make sure it wasn't some 17 yo with delusions of grandeur

>> No.2242113

>>2242087
Under what sort of license are you publishing these stories? Do the authors retain rights to their work? Are you selling the journal, what sort of payment would be involved?

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>>2242100

Not huge. $5 - $25 depending on length, more if it's really spectacular. Plus a few copies of the journal, which will be worth like $20. Not a fortune, but at least it's something...


>>2242101
1) Print or electronic?

Print. Letterpress covers and offset body. Digest-size perfect bound.

It is possible that a hosting space will be purchased and a website built for it (in which case it would be hosted itself online as well) but it's primarily, at least for this one edition, a print work.

2. Have you solicited any authors for you first issue?

Yes, several.

3. What's the planned duration of the magazine? Indefinite?

Indefinite, unless it is only one issue. I think they would like to do more though, if there's enough interest.

It's called "The New American." It is styled after journals from the 1920's/30's, like the American Mercury. There will be a piece in French at the end because that's how they closed journals back in the day.

acceptingsubmissions@gmail.com if you have anything!

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>>2242113

One time non-exclusive serial rights and archival rights, standard fare I think

>> No.2242124

would you be open to genre fiction? including sci fi, fantasy, horror, etc.

>> No.2242127

Will you be accepting alternative literature?
Do you accept new autism as a genre
Will Michael Jackson come back from the dead for christmas
Is Tao Lin the author of our generation?

If the answer to 3/4 of these are yes. I wholeheartadly support your journal.

>> No.2242129

when is the deadline for submissions?

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>>2242124

We're open to everything, as long it has any sort of literary/poetic value. As long as the genre work has some level of general appeal - and I mean, most of it does, especially if its good - that would be great.
Thanks for all the questions. We are very sincere about this. It will be a beautiful project.

>> No.2242136

>>2242131

I wish you guys the best of luck, even if you don't accept my work.

>> No.2242140

>>2242129

Yes, of course we're accepting alternative literature - unless alternative literature is a code for something so extremely alternative I've never heard of it. Most of the work accepted so far is probably not exactly standard fare anyway - especially the poems. We don't have many short stories. (By the way, Flash fiction-length work is terrific too, we don't have any of that).

I don't know what New Autism is but it sounds like something I could appreciate, anything with New is always promising.

Unfortunately I do not think Michael Jackson will be back in time for Christmas, but as far as Tao Lin is concerned, his work would certainly be welcome in our journal....

Does that garner support?


>>2242127
The end of February. Scheduled to print early April.

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2242142

gimme all ur bank account details

>> No.2242145

>>2242136

Thank you! Please do email us if you have anything. The deadline is February but the earlier we have work the better off we are. And invite others to contribute as well, if you know anyone who might have any work!

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>>2242140
Yes. You get my support.

Which ironically on this board wont do you any favors. Sorry.

>> No.2242158

Most of the things I've written have appeared on my blog and on this board. Can I submit things that have appeared on here, my blog or TAR?

>> No.2242163

>>2242158

Not OP, but I've published collections in the past. In general if something has been submitted to a journal, and is accepted, this disqualifies it from appearing in another journal.

>> No.2242166

>>2242163

I doubt TAR counts as a "journal."

>> No.2242170

>>2242166

It publishes original works in a publicly available format.

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>>2242163

Yes, that's fine, but please let us know if it has been published elsewhere.

>>2242158
It depends. We accept simultaneous submissions and previously published work as well. If someone has previously published work it depends on what rights the previous publication licensed.

>> No.2242173

>>2242170

Yes but nobody gives a tin shit about it outside of /lit/, and within /lit/ it's reputation is dubious.

>> No.2242176

I'm English. Can I submit to The New American?

>> No.2242190

Are you accepting international submissions?

>> No.2242207

Wait, so you are printing about 500 copies, selling them each for about $20. That means you would be making a net amount of about $10,000.

Assuming a volume length of lower than 200 pages printing costs should cost around $2,000 total (though likely significantly less).

Assuming you are able to move product you guys are seeing quite a huge profit in this venture when the writers are potentially getting at most 25$.

I want in on this scam.

>> No.2242213

>>2242207
>writer getting fucked over
Yup, welcome to the world of literature.
4 books and still working minimum wage is what you they don't show in movies.

>> No.2242211

>>2242207

Writers, especially amateur ones, are routinely fucked in the ass by publishers. Get used to it.

>> No.2242216

>>2242207
I need to get into publishing.

>> No.2242219

>>2242216
not a great idea, man

>> No.2242220

>>2242127

New autism? Tell me more

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>>2242207

Not exactly.

We're selling them for $10 each, you get several copies which is why I said $20. Really, they might not even sell for $10, that isn't definite either - it might be as low as $7.

I don't need to run this down because it's not really good business, but I don't want any misconceptions out there. The offset cost is about 3$ a book and the letterpress cover another 1$, plus a significant amount of labor. So that's a material cost of 4$ for a book that will sell for 7-10$. Furthermore, only 400 of those books will ever make it to market, and probably much less; many will be given away to generate interest, as well as to writers (who there may potentially be many of).

On top of all that, any books sold at market would be subject to 30 - 50 % retail fee. In the end, the publisher will get $1 - $2.50 a book which, if everything went perfectly, would be $400 - $1,000. And that's before considering payments to the authors and the dollar value of the labor inherent in designing, printing, and distributing a journal.

I wish we were making a cool $8,000 off this, but that's absolutely absurd. This is an honest endeavor to publish a journal of artistic integrity; the limited profit we could possibly make is only enough to fund further issues.

I hope that clears things up a bit. Please forgive me for talking business.

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>>2242176
>>2242190

Yes, absolutely - despite the title, all work of any country (though preferably in English, or at least with a translation) is desirable.

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>>2242220
Alternative literature written by autistics to express their contempt with modern societies disgust with them.

>> No.2242248

>>2242234
That is actually somehow disappointing.

One day though, I will scam a lot of young endeavoring writers and vacation with moot for a week on the sweet shores of Mexico.

>> No.2242254

>>2242234
It seems profit has become a dirty word. Nothing wrong doing something for money, it would actually make you look more legitimate, methinks.

>> No.2242259

A lot of the journals for young aspiring writers at the moment - Elimae, PANK, Neon - seem to favour understated, somewhat cold and muted, non-rhyming free verse poetry, much of which doesn't chime with me.

Will you favour a particular aesthetic in your poetry? What would you like to see in your poetry submissions?

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>>2242259

We don't favor a particular aesthetic exactly, just work that is sincere. The overall aesthetic is a traditional and understated one, but the work involved does not to be traditional or understated.

Works that are cold and modern are welcome, but also warmer pieces. We already have some florid, grandiose work, as well as some clean and contemporary stuff. As long as it has literary merit and is culturally valuable, it is considered.

acceptingsubmissions@gmail.com

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2242304

> "the quality of literary journals is slipping"

> journal has no aesthetic direction

>> No.2242330

>>2242304

Not enough direction to discredit any potential contribution before we've even read it, no.

>> No.2242407

I have a lot of potential submissions, many of them fairly short.

What is your policy on the number of submissions? If more than one were of quality would you publish all applicable or only one?

>> No.2242426

>>2242407

We will read and consider as many submissions as you believe are worth sending us but will only publish one or two (up to three if they are flash, only one if it is very substantial). If you aren't sure of which stories to send, just send them all; but don't anticipate for all of them to be published. The same goes for poetry.

As far as manuscript guidelines, either attach a .doc/.docx file with your name, piece, and title, or copy and paste everything into the email itself. Thanks.

>> No.2242432

>>2242426

>copy and paste everything into the email itself

I do not envy you with regards to formatting, sir.

>> No.2242434

>>2242432

An attachment would certainly be preferable.

>> No.2242437

Enjoy having your submissions rejected officially, then published (stolen) for no compensation later.

Also, go advertise somewhere else.

>> No.2242439

>>2242426

what about a .pdf?

>> No.2242450

>>2242439
Definitely.

>>2242437
Maybe by someone else - not us. But I can't make you believe me.

>> No.2242458

>>2242437

I post all my shit to myself. (Post as in Mail)

Better than nothing.

>> No.2242460

>>2242450
Is there any way to be sure of that? As I see it, the balance of power is entirely on your side and there is an absence of accountability. To say "believe us or not, that is your prerogative" is a bit unreasonable.

Do you at least have some website/blog/wiki setup with pertinent information?

>> No.2242471

This sounds good, but I'd rather not submit anything to a journal I know absolutely nothing about. Do you have a site? You know, so I can see who I'm actually sending my work to.

>> No.2242472

>>2242460
Yeah, at least make a blog OP. If you want to get yourself out there, it would be really helpful. You can update with news of the project's progress and so on.

In this day and age, there's no excuse for not having a tumbr and/or blogspot.

>> No.2242498

>>2242472

Someone from the press will be uploading a website soon.

>> No.2242510

>>2242498
Keep us updated

>> No.2242788

>>2242234
I, too, run a small literary 'zine and yes, the costs versus gains are not much at all. If you have any staff at all that you pay I can't imagine the startup costs.

Authors... this shit is expensive to put together and with no guarantee of sales (especially in a day/age when selling anything that doesn't have a 6-figure marketing budget is difficult to do with any certainty).

Best of luck, sir/madam, with your new venture. I hope it brings you as much pleasure to put together as mine does, for it's truly a labor of love.

And authors, best of luck to you, too. You all are what makes this shit interesting, reading the brilliance that is yet-to-be uncovered.

>> No.2242790

>>2242788
shut the fuc up