/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.22415705]

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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[Anonymous No.22415715]

>>22415705
Smaug was just Fafnir lite, but without the cool shit like a heart that makes you omniscient and trip out when you eat it. Tolkien didn't innovate the dragon as an entity... But if we look at Terry Pratchett's invisible dragons, they at least have something new. And Michael Swanwick... he turned dragons on their head.

[Anonymous No.22415741]

The King Dunsany. His Prince Bakker.

[Anonymous No.22415743]

>>22415741
Their God-Emperor Lovecraft.

[Anonymous No.22415753]

First for xianxia

[Anonymous No.22415772]

>>22415705

[Anonymous No.22415795]

>>22415715
>we can't have just plain old classic mythos!
>we need, like, dragons with lazers! we need dragons with big dicks taht shoot lazers from their pee holes! at least it's heckin new!

[Anonymous No.22415796]

>>22415705
First for boomer fantasy

[Anonymous No.22415801]

Post vampire literature

[Anonymous No.22415811]

>>22415715
You clearly failed to grasp the point of Tolkien's writing.

[Anonymous No.22415842]

Can someone recommend a book like "mushoku tensei" but instead of being warped after the intro chapters the mc gets kidnapped by a wealthy aristocrat and has their mind and body trained (possibly with drugs or magic) to serve the FBB. Then gets sent back to the main plotline for a few chapters before "accidentally" stumbling on and falling in love with the FBB, getting married and living out the rest of the novel as a kingdom/harem building toy for the FBB.
Or just anything similar like with swords and magic and stuff, but maybe more of the above than the average novel.

[Anonymous No.22415882]

>>22415842
What even are these words you're saying.

[Anonymous No.22415884]

>>22415882
Modern Standard Weeaboo

[Anonymous No.22415889]

>>22415801

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22415895]

>>22415705
Kundo Wakes Up, #2 - Saad Z. Hossain (2022)

One year, 237 days ago Kundo's wife left him a note that simply read, "I'm leaving" and she hadn't been seen since. The famous painter who no longer paints tried all he could to find her, even hiring a hacker, but he then fell into a fugue state and many months slipped by unnoticed, and he became oblivious to the outside world. Eventually, one day Kundo Wakes Up and he decides to try living, and finding her, again. However, he's constantly assailed by intrusive thoughts about her, such as what if she's ran off her with online gaming guild members and she's cuckolding him daily by having constant orgies with them. Many other scenarios present themselves to him unbidden. The first step is to get back in contact with the hacker and see what he's found out. That's how the mystery of his wife's disappearance begins. In pursuit of her he'll enlist a motley band of misfits and travel to the figurative, or perhaps literal, end of the universe and beyond.

The blurb on the cover from Samit Basu provides an excellent summation: "Cyberpunk, high fantasy, climate catastrophe, and and its heart, a compelling story about broken people finding each other and a way to become whole again." Although this novella takes place in the same setting as the first, they're very different in almost any meaningful way. This one is an investigative mystery of a guy trying to find his wife as Chittagong, the city around him, is being lost to the waves, specifically the Bay of Bengal. Karma has declared the city a loss and is slowly withdrawing. Those who mostly remain are Zeros and the haplessly eccentric. Kundo's investigation is rather haphazard in that he hopes that in his stumbling about he'll find enough clues to point him in the right direction. Due to this lack of focus it often reads more like his daily life and the interactions he has with those he meets. That was kind of nice, but it lacked a certain something to make it definitively enjoyable. One of the main plot devices is a full immersion, literally and figuratively, VR gaming rig.

I didn't enjoy this as much as the first novella, though it has its own charm. It's barely a 4. It takes place sometime after the first, but it's never made clear when that is. One character makes a return appearance, mostly for the purpose of commentary. The new cast is good, but lacks the vibrancy and zest of the former. The main problem for me is probably comparing it to the first, which may not be fair. The former was about over-the-top personalities and their outrageous antics. This is about a group of miserable has-beens who struggle to get through each day, yet still find some way to carry on for now, though not forever. I appreciate that it's a completely different perspective on the setting, though it's also a bit jarring because of that as well. The ending is poignant, that's for sure.

Rating: 4/5

[Anonymous No.22415896]

>>22415895
Everybody loves your reviews.
KEEP GOING!

[Anonymous No.22415901]

>>22415895
Great review, anon!
Please continue posting!

[Anonymous No.22415908]

>>22415889
I'm not sure if I like or hate that vampire's look. I kinda wish he had a shirt on. Like I get he's kinda going for the 'sexy vampire but still cool dude' look but it's a bit mismatched.

[Anonymous No.22415925]

>>22415895
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.22415940]

>>22415884
>>22415882
Any recs? "mushoku tensei" is a book where a middle-aged Japanese guy dies and is reincarnated as a white, blond, boy where iirc he is op, at the very least precocious. mc is main character FBB is fat bald bastard, a rotund, bald man with a mean streak (though it's optional I highly prefer it or anything in the ugly bastard trope), but everything else is standard english

[Anonymous No.22416063]

For some reason I keep confusing mushoku tensei (absolute dogshit even for a light novel) with dungeon meshi (actually fun)

[Anonymous No.22416069]

All Xianxia and manga light novel fags need to post in /a/. This is WESTERN science fiction and fantasy general.

[Anonymous No.22416076]

>webnovel author believes foreigners will start to use chi-com units of measurement in the future

[Anonymous No.22416080]

>>22416069
No it isn't

[Anonymous No.22416092]

>>22416069
But nobody would give them attention there so...

[Anonymous No.22416094]

>>22416076
>Abdul DeShaun Washington Jr throws a 200 yard long ball at 100 miles per hour! Standing at 6 feet 7 inches, that won’t be hard for Julio Hernandez Esperanto the Second to catch and go for the goal! Wow! TOUCHDOWN!
None of those measurements are precise nor easily converted, Amerimutt.

[Anonymous No.22416102]

>>22416094
as opposed to Zhangs and Li's .... ?

[Anonymous No.22416109]

>>22416102
>Chinese fantasy uses measurements from medieval China

[Anonymous No.22416197]

Am I weird for seething and feeling anger against an author because he wrote mind boggling bs in something I liked to read?
I really want to shit on him in the review section

[Anonymous No.22416198]

>>22416094
Yes they are, what the fuck are you talking about unitlet?

[Anonymous No.22416208]

>>22416094
Worse is when amerifats write things like "the guy's height is 5'6"
Like wtf? Write normal units for gods sake

[Anonymous No.22416223]

>>22416198
Okay. Go turn one million one hundred and twelve thousand seven hundred and forty-two inches into miles.

[Anonymous No.22416243]

>>22416223
Why tho

[Anonymous No.22416249]

>>22416243
Kek. Amerimutts can’t even do basic math. But it’s mainly because their measurements are fucking retarded and counterintuitive.
Have another problem.
I got two hundred and forty two feet of fabric, which need to be cut into quarter-yard (0.25 yd) pieces of textile. However, I also need to make sure to stitch them with a special blue string. It costs five inches of string per piece of fabric. I have fourteen and a half yards of blue string.
How many finished cut pieces with blue string can I make?

[Anonymous No.22416256]

>>22416249
Yeah that happens all the time. Get over it. All units are arbitrary.

[Anonymous No.22416261]

>>22416256
>All units are arbitrary.
Except the metric system is precise, easy to convert, and based on less arbitrary things than folk people estimating or measuring how big a king’s foot is, then being garbled by some people stuck in pre-Modern colonies who decide not to join the rest of the modern world.

[Anonymous No.22416264]

>>22416261
For certain sea levels, on certain planets, with certain atmospheric pressure bleh bleh bleh. You're just so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.22416271]

>>22416264
Join us. Or be forgotten like every pulp writer in Spicy Adventures.

[Anonymous No.22416301]

Say his name

[Anonymous No.22416316]

Why is all fantasy either atheist or christcuck trash when the whole gerne is derived from mythology

[Anonymous No.22416323]

>>22416316
no it isnt

[Anonymous No.22416331]

>>22416323
Its either leftie atheist like moorcock, r.r. martin, pratchett or a christcucks like tolkien, c.s. lewis and wolfe

[Anonymous No.22416332]

>>22416331
Poul Anderson was a right wing libertarian

[Anonymous No.22416342]

>>22416331
Well in the west we have unbelievers and we have Christians. Everyone else is an invader or a larper. Who would you like to hear from?

[Anonymous No.22416353]

>>22416331
Discworld has an entire pantheon of greek/egyptian/norse/folk gods
Not really sure what else you could possibly want given your complaint

[Anonymous No.22416356]

>>22416342
Even Japan has mainly just atheists or Christians. There’s nearly no Shinto except if you count people who still have some folk beliefs incorporated into other worldviews.

[Anonymous No.22416361]

>>22416353
He just means that the outlook and representation is embedded in rational atheist philosophy. When classicists and archaeologists look at paganism, they don’t actually understand it other than to try rationalise it and see it as a sort of extension of society or social formation, rather than accept that pagan religion was real to its adherents.

[Anonymous No.22416371]

>>22416331
I'm pretty sure Wolfe was a pantheist, at least that's what i get from botns

[Anonymous No.22416384]

>>22416361
>He just means that the outlook and representation is embedded in rational atheist philosophy
That's not true though is it. Maybe you can claim it for Small Gods which is about the actual act of belief but for several other stories the gods are Homeric in their behavior and how they're perceived.
You can't get any more 'derived from mythology'

[Anonymous No.22416386]

>>22416353
It's superficial nonesense, most fantasy has gods because it's basically a fan fiction of mythology, but then people like pratchett will make characters say religion is a lie or whatever, every other opinion in the book reeks of libtardism and modernism.
>>22416371
Isn't the main character based on Jesus?

[Anonymous No.22416388]

>>22416386
No?

[Anonymous No.22416391]

>>22416384
The Discworld gods never feel overly mythological. They’re more like satires of mythology, especially how the world pokes fun at the belief people really held that the world is flat, or on a turtle. He also makes the gods play dice games as a joke about determinism and free will in theology. To me, it made the will of the gifs literally arbitrary and not tied to any sort of goodness or omniscience.

[Anonymous No.22416407]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.22416419]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

[Anonymous No.22416421]

>>22416388

[Anonymous No.22416434]

>>22416407

if you're going to rec, try to make sure the recs aren't complete trash

>>22416316
tolkien actually rants about this at length in his nonfiction writings. It's what makes lotr literarily important

[Anonymous No.22416435]

>>22416434
>tolkien actually rants about this at length in his nonfiction writings.
About what?

[Anonymous No.22416436]

>>22416435
to summarize
fiction contrived as allegory = trash
fiction contrived as non-allegorical fictional mythology = based

[Anonymous No.22416440]

>>22416391
>To me, it made the will of the gifs literally arbitrary and not tied to any sort of goodness or omniscience.
guess what the gods in greek and norse myth are like

[Anonymous No.22416455]

>>22416440
>guess what the gods in greek and norse myth are like
You don't strike me as someone who has read any original sources of myth, especially not Greek. In both cases, there was a supreme being that created moral order, however amoral it seemed to stupid mortals. That's why Zeus is always right in Greek poetry and myths, even if he seems cruel or vindictive. It gets more complicated with his children being aspects of him, but that about summarises it.
Norse had Odin and later Thor as authorities. Even if Odin foresees the end of the world and hangs himself, he also creates most of the goodness in the different worlds with his actions and powers. Ragnarok is supposed to be the powers of good gods against all that is evil and harsh, like various monsters. The endtimes shows that even in face of death, the einherjar and gods will battle Fenris and Jormungandr. They even do this fully knowing it will happen, because that's what makes them good, and they have no fear.

[Anonymous No.22416470]

>>22415801

[Anonymous No.22416478]

>>22416470
>Because my book is about vampires I can write any retarded nonsense and not be criticised for it

[Anonymous No.22416483]

>>22416470
What is even the point of responding to Goodreads retards? He seems to have thin skin and probably suffers from an inflated ego due to a gnawing sense he is a phony, an inferior writer, and a hack.

[Anonymous No.22416486]

>>22416483
>>22416478
it's a joke lighten up god damn

[Anonymous No.22416495]

>>22416486
>Ohh hohohoho wait until I make a sarcastic, witticism or a silly yet not so foolish quip on the bird app!
You and he both have better things to do.

[Anonymous No.22416518]

>>22416301
dude's books are shit.
literally rebbit.

[Anonymous No.22416520]

>>22416421
Is that supossed to mean anything?

[Anonymous No.22416523]

>>22416436
All mythology is allegorical by definition

[Anonymous No.22416579]

>>22415753
Seconded

[Anonymous No.22416612]

>>22415895
So a husband (a painter lol) gets cucked by wife, and this book is basically him simping through, literally epic moving mountain tier simp just to get his now pozzed roastie back.

[Anonymous No.22416617]

>Jeet retards spam meme articles without reading anything and pay for SSO so that I can’t easily find retro biopunk set in a underwater libertarian metropolis
It’s so over…

[Anonymous No.22416631]

>>22415842
>>22415940
>has their mind and body trained (possibly with drugs or magic)
The tag you're looking for is TA (teaching assistant), the tag has gained popularity particularly among Koreans and there are numerous novels within the sinosphere that feature it.

[Anonymous No.22416655]

Lets say I can choose between reading Youth or Let's Get Together by Isaac Asimov, which should I choose?

[Anonymous No.22416663]

>>22416486
jokes should be funny not reddit quippy garbage you retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.22416710]

Minara's butt!

[Anonymous No.22416715]

any sites (not goodreads) i can plug scores in for books i've read and get good recommendations, not extremely vaguely related books mostly written by women?

[Anonymous No.22416718]

>>22416715
I've heard LibraryThing does recommendations better than GR

[Anonymous No.22416719]

Brittany!

[Anonymous No.22416720]

>>22416715
>not extremely vaguely related books mostly written by women?
No
You should just read the classics forever, or look up shit like "best [genre you want] books of the 90s/80s" etc. the entire genre is pozzed to shit now

[Anonymous No.22416729]

>>22416718
alright i'll give that a try, ty
>>22416720
pozzed to shit and on top of that genre tags are applied so liberally that you cannot use them to find anything. shit is truly retarded

[Anonymous No.22416730]

>check amazon
>every new release or best seller is female mc written by a woman
>check goodreads
>slightly different books but still all female mc written by a woman
So where are you supposed to find decent new releases now?

[Anonymous No.22416739]

>>22416730
>So where are you supposed to find decent new releases now?
There is almost no good fantasy coming out now, anon. Bakker and Clarke (a woman) are the only fantasy authors that are currently writing that are worth a damn.

[Anonymous No.22416763]

>>22416631
tag on what site?

[Anonymous No.22416764]

>>22416729
you can try chatgpt too
and you can be specific too like like only ask for certain authors or to exclude females or whatever

[Anonymous No.22416767]

>>22415772
what does "gri" stand for?

[Anonymous No.22416769]

>>22416730
Have you tried not checking on amazon?
Novelupdates, royalroad, fanfic, asstr, literotic etc.

[Anonymous No.22416772]

>>22416249
>euromutt can't into imperial units
>change fabric units into piece units
>242 feet -> 321 1/3 pieces (4/3 of 240 is 320, 4/3 of 2 is 1 1/3)
>14 and 1/2 yards -> 104 2/5 pieces (29 half yards times 36/5 pieces per yard, 36*30 is 1080, subtract 36 and get 1044, divide by 10 to get 104, 4/10 is 2/5)
>lowest is obviously string
>answer is 104 pieces, remaining material is 217 1/3 pieces fabric and 2/5 pieces string
Now instead of being a retard and doing this calculation every time you want to order more materials, just do everything in piece units, 100 pieces of fabric and 100 pieces of string equals 100 finished pieces.
Then you can start figuring out how many pieces a truckload is, and how many man hours a truckload you need.

[Anonymous No.22416777]

>>22416769
>poorly translated jap slop
>fanfics
Ah so reading really is a dead form of entertainment

[Anonymous No.22416778]

>>22416767
Read the books and you will find out, or you won't because non-webnovels reject pornographic elements so at best you will get an allegorical allusion to a hypothetical possibility.

[Anonymous No.22416779]

>>22416777
Why does this board always waste trips with the worst posts imaginable?

[Anonymous No.22416785]

>>22416617
>libertarian
dystopia series by Bernd Lauret on asstr

[Anonymous No.22416790]

>>22416785
It also has lgs so it's even more like bioshock.

[Anonymous No.22416795]

>>22416785
Even has GRI

[Anonymous No.22416800]

>>22416772
All that when you could just divide by 10 or 100 like a normal person.

[Anonymous No.22416801]

hi chuds
scifichan is back open and looking for jannies
https://scifichan.space/scifi/index.html

[Anonymous No.22416806]

>>22416800
No, because when you have an arbitrary unit that isn't tethered to the real world you never have the opportunity to simplify by converting units outside of once or twice in a lifetime scale ups.

[Anonymous No.22416811]

>>22416779
Make better recommendations chudders

[Anonymous No.22416813]

>>22416778
NTA but just tell the fullform you faggot

[Anonymous No.22416815]

>entertainment
I read only to cringe. We aren't the same.
>>“Naturally. So are we going to have this discussion here while you keep suppressing the ruler of the city and the entire guard with just your presence, or should we take it somewhere else?” Karna couldn’t help but be amused by the antics of her master.

[Anonymous No.22416856]

There is almost certainly intelligent life somewhere in the universe. But it is definitely not on earth, nor in this thread.

[Anonymous No.22416871]

>>22416806
Seething. People use mm, cm, m, and km all the time.

[Anonymous No.22416876]

>>22416856
Hey didn’t Buzz Lightyear say that? Maybe go watch some Pixar movies, babby. This is the real hard and grimdark fantasy thread that doesn’t shy away from male on male rape (a historical reality).

[Anonymous No.22416879]

>>22416801
Ded

[Anonymous No.22416889]

>>22416879
no website starts big

[Anonymous No.22416890]

Has anyone read pic related? It was recommended by a friend claiming it is the best sci fi ever, and so far I am at the second book and I am not really too impressed. Does it get better?

[Anonymous No.22416927]

>>22416890
I think you need to amend your faith in your friend's judgement.

[Anonymous No.22416932]

>>22416890
your friend is a normie

[Anonymous No.22416934]

I am halfway through Sabriel and just got to the part where she for some reason stairs at a lifelike carving of a nude boy and describes his circumcised penis.

[Anonymous No.22416982]

>>22416470
>arguing with readers
Eww.

[Anonymous No.22416983]

>>22416763
>tag on what site?
노벨피아

[Anonymous No.22416989]

>>22416800
Alright, then how about doing the exact same problem in metric to show how easy it is.
You have 73.7616m of fabric which needs to be cut into 22.86cm pieces of textile. You also need stitch each piece with 12.7cm of blue string, of which you have 13.2588m.
How many finished cut pieces can you make?

As a bonus, say you needed 1300 pieces made, how much of each material would you need?
Hint: in imperial the answer is simple, 1300 pieces worth of fabric and 1300 pieces worth of string!

[Anonymous No.22417013]

What's the best male on male sffg book?

[Anonymous No.22417016]

>>22417013
Swordspoint

[Anonymous No.22417166]

>nothing will hit the same as being in my early 20s reading Conan while high as a kite under my blanket sipping hot chai while it rains outside
I'm glad I gave up the weed, but S&S just doesn't feel as good as it did back then

[Anonymous No.22417170]

>>22417166
this but Prince of Nothing when I was a teenager and it was first coming out and i had to get my local bookshop to import Thousandfold Thought from Canada here to Australia to read it just after it released

[Anonymous No.22417287]

>>22417013
the darkness that comes before

[Anonymous No.22417293]

Could somebody please post the image of Boromir's death "my nigga.. my kang..." you know the one

[Anonymous No.22417425]

.

[Anonymous No.22417598]

>btfos all other sci fi villains
How did Asimov do it scifisistahs?

[Anonymous No.22417668]

>>22416612
Those are his intrusive thoughts, which doesn't mean that's what happened. He also considers other options. The rest is more accurate, though eventually it becomes less and less about his wife as different sources of meaning present themselves to him.

[Anonymous No.22417670]

>>22415705
Bakker metal for those who aren't too weak to handle it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g1KU-PENCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz9iyEazMiQ&list=OLAK5uy_mB9tzmzoXJHeu2fQIhwAWAq-adtkObmfw

[Anonymous No.22417713]

Feeling based rn

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22417779]

>>22415705
Prosper's Demon, Prosper's Demon #1 - K. J. Parker (2020)

Unlike most any other time I've written about what I've read this is entirely for those who either have already read this novella or don't care about spoilers. I'd say it's 60% about my reactions and 40% about the book, which is an in-book reference. I'm ambivalent about the writing and its structure. It's not something I could comfortably read at length. There's a plot and philosophizing, but I mostly found it to be irrelevant. The protagonist didn't interest me. I may read the second novella if only to see how it affects my interpretation, which is provided below.

I didn't see anyone who had the same interpretation of the book that I did, though surely there must be others, so I felt compelled to explain myself. The correct view may be take it all at face value as almost everyone seems to have done. I'm unable to do that, which may only be because I prefer it that way. I believe the events proceeded as laid out, but I believe that almost everything the unnamed narrator says about said events are lies. The following is how I read the book.

Prosper's Demon follows an unnamed narrator whose derangement is only matched by his ability to manipulate. He's a deeply disturbed sociopath who wanders around seeing demons in others and proceeds to kill them in various ways that often minimize his involvement because it's a hassle to be pursued for revenge. He's a serial killer and a mass murder convinced of his own righteousness. Often he lapses into delusions where he thinks he's talking with demons.

The story starts with the narrator in bed with a dead prostitute, whom he killed. He shrugs it off as having been possessed by a demon and disposes of her. He says it's never his fault. Right afterwards he mentions he stole what's most valuable to each member of his family. He says he has absolute authority like the Emperor. Then he says he has no roots or connections. The narrator claims he's licensed to do all this, but then he says his proof is counterfeit. He has an origin story of a wombmate demon. If any of it was true he wouldn't also be saying that he's constantly dodging vengeful family and the law. He goes on about how brutalized his childhood bully. He proposes that the evilest of men have the same virtues as the best of men, that it's arbitrary. He says he doesn't understand how his demon changes, which is only because he must accept that the demon is apart from himself. Then he's killed a twelve year old girl and her brother, though he only remembers the latter. Somehow he manages to get away with it all. He even kills his sister's three-month-old daughter and nothing comes of it. He sacrifices a five year old girl he bought. I don't see any of this anything other than his own choices. The demons don't exist. There's nothing fantastical going on. This is a secondary world story with a unreliable narrator talking about his crimes.

Rating: 2.5/5 (3)

[Anonymous No.22417791]

>>22417779
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.22417808]

>>22416813
The Steel Remains, Darkness that Comes Before, Farnham's Freehold and Let the Right One In all have aspects of gay rape and/or feminisation. can't help you with the actual acronym though

[Anonymous No.22417829]

>>22417713
Scalzi is trash. Lafferty is good, but an introduction by Kneel Gayman? trash

[Anonymous No.22417849]

>>22417779
Your reviews are BASED
POST ON

[Anonymous No.22417867]

>>22417779
>>murdering and sacrificing lgs
>HECKING BASED, GET le REKT
>>Snuggling and cuddling lgs
>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU A PEDOPHILE KYS OR I WILL LE WOOD CHIPPER YOU FEET FIRST
I'm starting to believe that /pol/ image about cuteness rage.

[Anonymous No.22417917]

>>22416890
It gets worse

[Anonymous No.22417925]

>>22416730
>So where are you supposed to find decent new releases now?
China mostly. Either translated, machine translated and cleaned-up by others or straight up machine-translating chinese webnovels yourself.
As far as western stuff goes I haven't been able to stomach any new releases in a long time.
The only thing i'm even going to check out in the near future is DMR books new authors (and "PulpRev" though it seems to be getting co-opted by the same scum ruining fantasy), Will Wight's new stuff and western LitRPG authors in general.

[Anonymous No.22417940]

What do you guys think of literary fantasy?

[Anonymous No.22417946]

>>22417849
BASED

[Anonymous No.22417948]

>>22417940
I don't and I wouldn't consider Gormenghast as separate from regular fantasy. Decent prose and varied characters but somewhat dreary overall.

[Anonymous No.22417953]

>>22417867
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Cute_aggression

[Anonymous No.22417971]

Peak fiction

[Anonymous No.22417977]

>>22417971
lmao I should pick that up again.
Very, very, very trashy but in an enjoyable way.

[Anonymous No.22417989]

>>22417425
OMG it's Keats!

[Anonymous No.22418005]

>>22417977
>trashy
Cute, coming from a bakkerfag.

[Anonymous No.22418013]

>>22417166
It wasn't even really the weed, it was just a strong association with a nostalgic part of your life. If you want to truly enjoy reading you need to grow as a reader, because chasing nostalgia just leads to depression.

[Anonymous No.22418016]

>>22416767
Gay, rape and incest
I have yet to make a chart about /ss/ sff books
>>22416778
Rude

[Anonymous No.22418048]

>>22417971
>rolls up in a city
>looks up some thing he left behind millions of years ago
>meets some young girl
>some young master shows up
>teaches the girl something about dao heart
>runs into the young master again
>slap them to death
>their sibling shows up
>kills them
>their parent/teacher/uncle/grandparent shows up
>kills them
>their ancestor shows up
>kills them and wipes out their clan/sect
>bids farewell to the young girl that will probably show up in 2000 chapters later when she's some sort of clan master
>repeat for 50+ arcs, and counting
true kino

[Anonymous No.22418068]

>>22418048
>their parent/teacher/uncle/grandparent shows up
Did he ever fucked the mom/wife of any of his rivals? My views on chinkslop may change if it's actually ntr Kino in disguise

[Anonymous No.22418075]

>>22418048
Can you translate this into eBNF
>>22418068
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.22418076]

>>22418068
Also the hundred million year old reincarnated cultivator doesn't have any "rivals"

[Anonymous No.22418094]

>>22418016
Why limit it to /ss/ why not just /s/

[Anonymous No.22418097]

>>22415772
I've been so fucking stuck on Morgan's trilogy, nothing compares. What else is good and the gay type of degen (besides Dhalgren)?

[Anonymous No.22418104]

>>22418094
Why have any limits at all?

[Anonymous No.22418106]

>>22418068
>rivals
There are no rivals. Just some minor annoyances. The MC is pretty much a god who's trying to kill another god and he goes around looking for some stuff that will help him in his goal when he gets back his original body after millions of years. There's nothing lewd in it

[Anonymous No.22418110]

>>22418106
>there's nothing lewd
Whenever he says maid the chinese tend to mean bedwarmer or concubine.
Not that they ever go into that from what I recall.

[Anonymous No.22418130]

>>22418104
There just isn't that much different in target audience. For other things there are.

[Anonymous No.22418158]

Twitterfags are mad that a Lovecraftian fascist chud got into a SF magazine when they didn't.
https://camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/2023/08/23/the-magazine-of-fsf-in-the-news-again-for-bad-reasons/

[Anonymous No.22418162]

They've been at this since 2015 or earlier.

[Anonymous No.22418177]

>>22418158
>>22418162
Okay but this has nothing to do with this thread.

[Anonymous No.22418185]

>>22418177
It's a sci fi/horror/fantasy writer getting harangued for merely being published. Do you want to go back to screeching about web novels?

[Anonymous No.22418192]

>>22418016
>Gay, rape and incest
thanks fren

[Anonymous No.22418202]

>>22418185
I'd rather have that t b h

[Anonymous No.22418221]

>>22418130
>there isn't much difference from wanting to have a mommy experience and from wanting to have sex with the little boy instead
Oh ok

[Anonymous No.22418235]

>>22418221
you can have a "mommy experience" without shota.
Let me guess, you meant ~16 when you said ss. Faggot, you are a cuck.

[Anonymous No.22418237]

>>22418158
>white national accepted by black woman editor who said she's all about diversity and social justice
Oh noooo

[Anonymous No.22418241]

>>22418237
>white national
He is white and a citizen yes.

[Anonymous No.22418245]

>>22418235
>there's no difference between wanting to have sex with mature women and little boys
Intriguing...

[Anonymous No.22418246]

>>22416730
>female mc written by a woman
whats wrong with that? some of my favorite fantasy novels have been female mc written by a woman

[Anonymous No.22418254]

>>22418245
Then just say MF and not /ss/.

[Anonymous No.22418266]

>>22418254
>My REAL fetish is being pedantic about fetishes

[Anonymous No.22418273]

>>22418245
>>22418266
If you say /ss/ You are implying that you want to see little boys to have sex with females of any age.
Now, apparently what you meant was males of any age below some threshold having sex with an older woman.
Do you see the difference, how the first one only has the constant of the little boy, which has very strong if not complete overlap with just shota?

[Anonymous No.22418276]

>>22418245
>>22418266
If you say /ss/ You are implying that you want to see little boys have sex with females of any age.
Now, apparently what you meant was males of any age below some threshold having sex with an older woman.
Do you see the difference, how the first one only has the constant of the little boy, which has very strong if not complete overlap with just shota?

[Anonymous No.22418284]

>>22418276
That's not how it's commonly used.

[Anonymous No.22418292]

>>22418284
Yes it is. /ss/ means straight shota and any thread you go into will have loli in it too. Look at Kyaradain's latest work, /ss/ into /s/ seamlessly.

[Anonymous No.22418301]

>>22418292
https://archiveofsins.com/h/search/text/%22straight%20shota%22/
No.

[Anonymous No.22418303]

>>22418301
>the board that bans loli has no loli
KILL YOURSELF NORMALFAG SWINE

[Anonymous No.22418314]

>>22418303
Doesn't matter. It's excluded from the term.

[Anonymous No.22418326]

>45 year old black sorceress lusts for a 20 year old white warrior guy
wow this is great I love it

[Anonymous No.22418329]

>>22418314
No. You are just retarded and think that because /h/ bans loli and shota that /ss/ means young men having sex with hags. Look at any of the thousands of /ss/ threads on /b/ or any other chan.

[Anonymous No.22418351]

>>22418329
I think exh, or nh if someone must, is more normative, or the many blogs and whatever else. Then there's the meme: hey kid, wanna /ss/? Sorry that your overwhelming attraction to "lgs" has blinded you. I have nothing more to say.

[Anonymous No.22418354]

>>22418326
>reading woman writers after the 50s
lmao

[Anonymous No.22418363]

>>22418351
Then you can go read kyaradain on ex and see a shota fucking mesugaki succubuses (what a normalfag would call loli) then next chapter a man fucking the shota.
The fact that you even bring up nhentai means you are a normalfag and shouldn't be here.

[Anonymous No.22418367]

>>22418354
>reading woman(male) writers
lmao

[Anonymous No.22418381]

>>22418254
>>22418266
Shut up and post fantasy moms
>>22418326
Martha Wells is great
>>22418354
Those are the best writers, anon.

[Anonymous No.22418385]

>>22418158
>David A. Riley
Did he remain based or did he renounce his basedness like a good shabbos goy?

[Anonymous No.22418388]

>>22418381
Hags are not a fantasy they are a cold reality. If only I could become an immortal cultivator lg

[Anonymous No.22418391]

>>22418354
Yes, and?

[Anonymous No.22418393]

>>22418326
He's in his 30s.

[Anonymous No.22418401]

>>22418326
>45 year old black sorceress
Conceive the odor

[Anonymous No.22418408]

>>22418401
Postulate the delusions

[Anonymous No.22418422]

>>22418408
Envisage perfumes.

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[Anonymous No.22418465]

>>22418393
I choose to believe otherwise.

[Anonymous No.22418480]

>>22418465
As you should. Your reading experience should be customized to your personal preferences.

[Anonymous No.22418525]

>>22418326
>65 year old evil white sorceress lusts for her 15 year old adopted grandson and takes his virginity
And some of you have the gall to say women writers aren't based

[Anonymous No.22418532]

>>22418480
Wrong

[Anonymous No.22418566]

Should I allow this anon to join? I've rejected a few for thinking they were funny and putting reddit. Some of those applied again and put an acceptable answer. Stuff like this is just dumb. Even if I reject anyone can apply again and try to be less silly.

[Anonymous No.22418582]

>>22418525
>65 yo hag
A little too "based" for me, but I guess she has some magic that makes her younger?

[Anonymous No.22418585]

566
Literally nobody cares faggot

[Anonymous No.22418590]

12 Miles Below

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/42367/12-miles-below

The world is in ruins.

Extreme sub-zero temperatures suffocate the surface, making even simple survival an ordeal. Frozen derelicts of bygone eras span across massive ice wastes. And the survivors closely guard any technology rediscovered within.

The only escape from the deadly climate is beneath the surface. But it’s another disaster underground. Monstrous machines lurk in the depths. Unhinged demigods war against them, dying over and over, treating it all like a game. The land itself shifts over time, more contraption than rock. And an ominous prophecy states that the key to everything waits on four heroes - but nobody knows who or where they are.

When an expedition into the far uncharted north goes terribly wrong, Keith Winterscar and his father get trapped together in a desperate fight for survival. Stumbling upon an ancient war of titanic scale; the two will need to set their differences aside while they struggle against Gods, legends, and the grand secrets of the realm that lies below.

[Anonymous No.22418595]

>>22418582
Indeed she does, she looks like she's in here early fifties or late forties

[Anonymous No.22418596]

>>22418590
Why do you post such kino every day? We don't deserve it.

[Anonymous No.22418609]

>>22418590
12 sneeds below

[Anonymous No.22418663]

>>22418465
Based, i picture every female character as a thick bitch when i read brooks.

[Anonymous No.22418702]

>read book
>author puts a piece at the start of the book stating that the reviews are not true and he doesn't use stats to pad the book
lel

[Anonymous No.22418769]

>>22418525
>>22418595
>STOP LIKING EVIL WOMEN

[Anonymous No.22418776]

>>22418381
>Those are the best writers
Yeah sure.
They're definitely not the people who completely destroyed the fantasy genre after they took over.

[Anonymous No.22418800]

>>22418776
you can't blame 50% of the human race for J.K. Rowling

[Anonymous No.22418841]

>>22418776
>They're definitely not the people who completely destroyed the fantasy genre after they took over.
I'm talking about upstanding adult housewives, career women and the like, women that did have something to say i'm NOT talking about the mid twenties frustrated terminally online retards who think the real world is like Twitter that did ruin fantasy with their magic systems.
Please don't disrespect older women, /lit/ is a pro-hag board

[Anonymous No.22418859]

>>22418596

This thread deserves good stories, anon

[Anonymous No.22418898]

>>22418590
>STUB
kys shill

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[Anonymous No.22418918]

>>22418915
this post glows

[Anonymous No.22418923]

>>22418918
Very Dickian if i say so myself

[Anonymous No.22418955]

>>22418841
>her name is literally ASS

[Anonymous No.22418960]

What am I getting myself into, /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.22418965]

>>22418960
zoomer cringe going off that blurb

[Anonymous No.22418987]

>>22418960
Probably some gay shit by the looks of it.

[Anonymous No.22419005]

>>22418955
That's a good thing!

[Anonymous No.22419017]

Are there any fantasy books like Disco Elysium?

[Anonymous No.22419018]

>>22419005
When did white girls start packing meat back there?

[Anonymous No.22419021]

>>22419018
Shortly after the jews pushed black "music" videos for a few decades

[Anonymous No.22419035]

>>22419017
Full of annoying internet-derived social media slang?
Hopefully not.

[Anonymous No.22419069]

>One thing I absolutely adored was Kell *insert hearteyes and all the praise in the entire universe* he is an enigmatic, beautiful MONK, devoid of emotion and driven by purpose and stubbornness. He exploits and kills everyone who gets in his way, master of manipulation and full time badass. What is Kells true purpose? Who knows... is he evil or will he be a hero? (secretly hope he is a villain and will conjure himself into a real person and marry hers truly). I’m certainly excited to find out everything about him. Such an intriguing character and a perfect example of grey.

[Anonymous No.22419081]

>>22419021
Well I want more fat ass white girls.

[Anonymous No.22419113]

>>22419069
He's just like me...intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor.

[Anonymous No.22419126]

>literal isekai mozart
Early Cuttlefish was rough, but kinda fun. Mysteries is his magnum opus though.

[Anonymous No.22419130]

>>22418960
The current best selling fantasy book

[Anonymous No.22419167]

>>22419126
Despite being the xianxia chad that has shit up this thread for the past few years I still haven't read cuttlefish.

[Anonymous No.22419168]

>>22419113
>I’ve seen this hailed as having some of the best world building in all of fantasy. And I can’t deny the history of this world is intriguing, but can it really be the best world building if none of the central players in this world are women? Where the only two women of consequence in 300 pages are portrayed as pathetic and lowly and as the book likes to paint them “whores”. Yawn next.

[Anonymous No.22419177]

>>22419167
Cuttlefish isn't really Xianxia. He's more fantasy with alternate power systems.

[Anonymous No.22419182]

>>22419168
>I’ve seen this hailed as having some of the best world building in all of fantasy. And I can’t deny the history of this world is intriguing, but can it really be the best world building if none of the central players in this world are retarded? Where the only two retards of consequence in 300 pages are portrayed as pathetic and lowly and as the book likes to paint them “dumb”. Yawn next.
>>22419177
Which is why I haven't read it yet. But I've liked stuff like coiling dragon which isn't a typical xianxia until the last chapter where it was le xianxia all along, your new name is ching chong ding dong

[Anonymous No.22419184]

>>22417989
This is why you stop after the first one.

[Anonymous No.22419201]

>>22417598
The author's longing for an autismo self-insert meets the story's need for a free will to break up the grim prescience of the Seldon Plan. The Mule is subtler than Asimov could produce intentionally, but he gets the props for putting himself out there and letting the hand of pulp animate his creation.

[Anonymous No.22419202]

>read teen fantasy
>trilogy ends with the 2 protagonists kissing and looking forward to a brighter future and their entire lives ahead of them
this is why I should only read things where everyone dies at the end

[Anonymous No.22419209]

>>22419182
>using code outside of /g/

[Anonymous No.22419214]

>>22419182
Far as I can recall Coiling was sorta xianxia from the second world but it's been years since I read it.

[Anonymous No.22419218]

>>22419201
>author self insert
>dies a virgin
Yeah, right

[Anonymous No.22419221]

>>22417940
Volume 1 is 10/10 for style points, and has excess points to stomp any objection you'd care to bring against it. But in v2 I felt the author wanted it both ways (plot and no-plot) and v3 was a dnf mess.

Still it's a Velvet Underground or Cormac McCarthy situation where a creative type would do well to come under its influence for a time.

[Anonymous No.22419238]

>>22419202
I exclusively read books with happy endings and if I'm ever disappointed I throw them in the trash

[Anonymous No.22419317]

>>22419214
Yeah for hongmeng books in IET bibliography, I think Hongmeng creates as universe, waits until leylin from CD breaks out of it, then he names him Lin Meng and Lin Meng creates his own universe and they wait until the protagonist from ST breaks through, then they wait for whatever book will have the next person break through (I don't think any of his books are in hongmeng for almost a decade now so he probably forgot) and then they are all going to suck eachothers dicks.
Desolate era isn't part it

[Anonymous No.22419328]

>>22419214
>>22419317
>>22419182
When the fuck will those chinks at webnovel will release the audiobooks?

[Anonymous No.22419339]

>>22419328
TTS is literally better than actual records nowadays TAKE YOU FUCKING MEDS RETARD

[Anonymous No.22419372]

>>22419339
Hell you could probably even chop up the novel with a quick script and put different tts voices for each character. Would probably be better to have someone who has read the book do it but still, wouldn't be that hard for someone who hasn't read it and if you think something is off just fix that character's entire part in 5 minutes.
I might actually start doing this, seems like easy money.

[Anonymous No.22419376]

>>22419021
WTF i love jews now?!?
>>22419081
We need more pawgs in fantasy

[Anonymous No.22419380]

>>22419376
>fantasy?

[Anonymous No.22419455]

>>22419376
That one on the right has crazy eyes.

[Anonymous No.22419499]

>>22419455
Hot

[Anonymous No.22419594]

What am I in for

[Anonymous No.22419596]

>started mistborn
I did not realize this shit was gonna be fantasy ocean's eleven.

[Anonymous No.22419626]

>>22419596
It isn't.

[Anonymous No.22419632]

>>22419594
Melodrama and homosex

[Anonymous No.22419639]

>>22419594
isn't this the guy who wrote the infamous cuck quote

[Anonymous No.22419644]

>>22419639
Robin Hobb is a woman.

[Anonymous No.22419659]

>>22419596
Lmao

[Anonymous No.22419668]

>>22419594
those books would have been better if the fool had been a woman and not some intersex crossdressing weirdo

[Anonymous No.22419688]

>>22419594
Probably one of the best nautical fantasy, VERY character driven and slowpaced. I would rec to read more fast-paced books (Gemmell, Cook, Saberhagen etc) berween each one so you don't get burned out.
>>22419639
Hobb is a kind old lady.
>>22419668
s(he) was a futa.

[Anonymous No.22419713]

>>22419688
are there any good fantasy books with M2F tg?

[Anonymous No.22419741]

>>22419713
nta
That's probably more an SF thing overall because most fantasy can do is either magic or crossdressing due to lack of HRT and other stuff.

[Anonymous No.22419813]

>>22419713
It's scifi but When Gravity Fails has a tg love interest
Jack L Chalker was pretty fond of tg and genderbend either done by magic or future science, he did it like once per book.

[Anonymous No.22419819]

>>22419713
Best i can give you is gay femboy mc in Nightrunner by Llyn Flewelling

[Anonymous No.22419828]

>>22419626
>>22419659
I guess the plan deviates from the chapter I stopped at. NVM then.

[Anonymous No.22419852]

>>22419713
https://queersff.theillustratedpage.net/

[Anonymous No.22419892]

>>22419852
>>22419819
I'm talking about magical or scifi genderbending, not mental illness

[Anonymous No.22419931]

>>22419892
>thinking there's any difference

[Anonymous No.22419987]

>19th century fantasy
>gay faerie romance with little garden gnomes singing songs and shit
I just want some battles and incest rape. This shit is so gay lmao

[Anonymous No.22420034]

>>22419987
>19th century fantasy
>gay faerie romance with little garden gnomes singing songs and shit
Name one example

[Anonymous No.22420040]

>>22419987
>>gay faerie romance with little garden gnomes singing songs and shit
Based?

[Anonymous No.22420055]

>>22420034
very poorly read if you don't immediately know what he's referring to

[Anonymous No.22420071]

>>22420034
Phantastes

[Anonymous No.22420076]

>>22420034
Imagine being this fucking new. Chinkshit readers need to fucking die.

[Anonymous No.22420078]

>>22420071
>spoonfeeding retards

[Anonymous No.22420109]

>"Your Glory . . . I am Obotegwa, Senior Obligate of Zsoronga ut Nganka'kull, Succesor-Prince of High Holy Zeüm."

[Anonymous No.22420116]

>>22420109
To be fair all that gibberish is based on Africa and it's all clicks and whistles over there.

[Anonymous No.22420144]

>>22420109
if you think that's bad try reading Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath
the title is the sole interesting part of it

[Anonymous No.22420166]

>>22420144
You didn't read it.
>There were, in such voyages, incalculable local dangers; as well as that shocking final peril which gibbers unmentionably outside the ordered universe, where no dreams reach; that last amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the centre of all infinity—the boundless daemon-sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin, monotonous whine of accursed flutes; to which detestable pounding and piping dance slowly, awkwardly, and absurdly the gigantic ultimate gods, the blind, voiceless, tenebrous, mindless Other Gods whose soul and messenger is the crawling chaos Nyarlathotep.

[Anonymous No.22420197]

[Anonymous No.22420250]

>>22420166
I did read it, and in fact I'll prove it to you right now

[Anonymous No.22420251]

Do you take notes while reading fantasy?

[Anonymous No.22420253]

>>22420250
Yummy

[Anonymous No.22420255]

>>22420250
but honestly look at this rubbish
most of Lovecraft's stories are great but this is just unreadable

[Anonymous No.22420261]

>>22420253
that's not hair btw I have cave centipedes growing out of my pores, it's very bothersome trying to shave my privates when it's covered in centipedes

[Anonymous No.22420265]

>>22420255
Are you an ESL? There's nothing wrong with this.

[Anonymous No.22420266]

Imagine the floodgates that will open in xianxia when AI is good enough to translate better than the average human translator. It will truly be the death of S&S and "Best Sellers" type fantasy. I can't wait!

[Anonymous No.22420267]

>>22420265
t. zoog

[Anonymous No.22420284]

>>22420267
Idiot

[Anonymous No.22420350]

I was born in the cringe, molded by it.
>“It was wonderful! Well, the injury made things a little awkward, but he was so attentive and gentle that the awkwardness wasn’t too bad.” Duskclaw had a silly grin on her face.
>“Well, you obviously didn’t take care of precautions seeing your current state. I’m just going to note that you don’t get to give me any grief after this.” Karna teased. “I can’t believe that I’m asking this about my father, but was he any good? Just out of curiosity.”

[Anonymous No.22420401]

>>22415796
Does that book hold up well?

[Anonymous No.22420439]

Minara's hips!

[Anonymous No.22420754]

I took a pill in Ibiza to get to rank 5 QI condensation.

[Anonymous No.22420824]

>>22420754
But you don't wanna train like me,
Absorbing energy,
You don't ever wanna leave behind the mortal realm,
And face the dao alone,
You don't wanna wield the qi,
Harnessing eternity,
You don't wanna be stuck in endless battles,
Stuck in endless battles,
All I know, are sect wars, sect wars,
All I know, are sect wars, sect wars.

[Anonymous No.22420909]

>>22420266
only RI is good, the rest of of xanxia (or atleast 95%) is garbage. There will be no any such floodgates opening.

[Anonymous No.22420918]

>>22416739
bakker isn't writing anymore, he got too butthurt that his publisher didn't like how he inflated his fanbase and didn't stick to the agreed-upon contract. so he developed a painkiller addiction and teaches community college english while ranting and raving about Drumpf and CrAsHsPaCe oF mEaNiNg!!1! on his blog

seriously, y'all need to get better tastes that your current author-heroes, because these ones just induce vomiting.

[Anonymous No.22420944]

>Noooo you can't just like authors I don't like!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.22420956]

>>22419813
>When Gravity Fails
tranny hookers
tranny love interest
tranny friends
more tranny hookers
("transexual" in the books, it was the 80s)

[Anonymous No.22420979]

>>22416730
>>22417925
Isn't Baen Books whole shtick that they publish old school stuff from new authors?

[Anonymous No.22421020]

SCYLVENDI

[Anonymous No.22421025]

>>22417166
maybe meditation can open your consciousness so you enjoy books again

[Anonymous No.22421029]

>>22420956
did people back there cared about trannies as much as we do now?

[Anonymous No.22421031]

>>22421029
did every kids show have a tranny in the 80's?

[Anonymous No.22421037]

>it's a Kelmomas chapter
What will this devilish scamp get up to this time?

[Anonymous No.22421039]

Lilith Saintcrow reigns supreme

[Anonymous No.22421067]

>>22421039
should save this for the next time someone tells me not to judge a book by its cover

[Anonymous No.22421078]

>>22420250
Bakkercunts btfo'd yet again

[Anonymous No.22421126]

I want to thank the bakkerfags who spam him in every thread. I finally picked up the first book and it's great so far.

[Anonymous No.22421129]

>>22420979
AFAIK Baen is like 95% mil-SF.

[Anonymous No.22421136]

>>22421126
Truth Shines, anon.

[Anonymous No.22421209]

>>22420251
No but i should start. It seems like a really useful practice in multiple ways

[Anonymous No.22421323]

>>22421126
Mashallah

[Anonymous No.22421403]

>>22415705
I'm surprised by how little fantasy gets into bestseller lists, despite how active the community is. I guess it doesn't appeal to most people.

[Anonymous No.22421405]

>>22421403
Sci fi isn't represented here much, but apparently it's hard to estimate the amount sold by big names like Asimov.

[Anonymous No.22421413]

>>22421403
Almost everything on that list has been adapted by Hollywood or some other form of media. A book with a bid budget hollywood adaptation is going to sell more copies purely because it has more exposure.
Then there's the stuff like what Horatio Alger wrote, which was essentially the early equivalent of Kindle Unlimited, disposable light reading for when you've got nothing better to do.
Looking at all time best sellers is a terrible way to guage popularity.

[Anonymous No.22421425]

>>22421413
>Almost everything on that list has been adapted by Hollywood or some other form of media.
Yeah, come to think of it. I noticed that people only search for authors once a new movie comes out. Pic related: an IT adaptation came out in September 2017.
>Then there's the stuff like what Horatio Alger wrote, which was essentially the early equivalent of Kindle Unlimited, disposable light reading for when you've got nothing better to do.
I wonder if webnovels have filled that void for people. You just look at it on your phone when you've got spare time but can't do anything.
>Looking at all time best sellers is a terrible way to guage popularity.
Maybe, but if you look at bestseller lists for the financial period even seems skewed to what gets reviewed a lot by influential magazines. And awards for scifi/fantasy are skewed by active groups of readers who usually want the same thing, which you can imagine turns into "representation" politics.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22421482]

>>22415705
Inside Man, #2 - K.J. Parker (2021)

As with the first novella what I've written here strays away from my usual write-up. Somewhat more than three weeks later I read this second novella in the setting. After having written about the first book I put off on posting about it because I wasn't sure if I would entirely rewrite it, add some commentary, or know how it'd affect what I thought about it. For me the answer was inconclusive, even though maybe it ought not be, and also I found myself to be surprisingly indifferent to whether that mattered. I don't really feel any differently about what I wrote and that's still what I'm going with regardless.

This second outing is quite different from the first and while I can appreciate what it's going for on a conceptual level, it's not that something that I was able to enjoy. The narrator is the same "demon" as from the first and the unnamed narrator appears as well. The vast majority of the content is a series of self-involved ramblings to the point where I felt that best audience for this would be those who enjoy Parker's writing for its occurrence than whatever it may be about. Stylistically it's interesting in that most narratives are grounded in time, place, and direction, while this tends to drift about, seemingly unmoored to those three ideas. That's a neat trick, but apparently not one of particular appeal to me.

I don't know how accurate how it is, but there certainly are a lot of comparisons to Good Omens and to Pratchett more generally. The humor, of which there's probably about as much as there are theological musings, which is to say, a lot, fell entirely flat with me. The real world pop culture reference jokes, ranging from the JFK assassination to Star Trek, left me more baffled than anything else. There are several religious jokes as well, including about the not-Jewish people, though they seemed good natured. That's a problem because that may be most of the appeal. I don't think it's deep enough for that to be attraction, the characters aren't that developed, nor is that world all that much either. So, it's come for the style and stay for the humor as far as I can tell.

I really don't understand Parker as an author, which makes me both want to read one of his novels and avoid everything else he's written. The latter seems considerably more likely at this time. I probably won't unless I have some compelling external reason to do so. This is just one of those times that an author doesn't seem suited for me and I'm entirely fine with that.

Rating: 2.5/5 (2)

[Anonymous No.22421510]

>>22421482
Your reviews are BASED
KEEP REVIEWING

[Anonymous No.22421552]

>>22420255
Getting filtered by this is insane do you 20 IQ grugbrains not read at all

>>22421482
How have you been reviewing for so long and still this bad at writing ?
Starting off straightway with terrible rambling -
>After having written about the first book I put off on posting about it because I wasn't sure if I would entirely rewrite it, add some commentary, or know how it'd affect what I thought about it. For me the answer was inconclusive, even though maybe it ought not be, and also I found myself to be surprisingly indifferent to whether that mattered. I don't really feel any differently about what I wrote and that's still what I'm going with regardless.
This ain't your dear diary entry nigga
As for the rest, I could probably rewrite this entire thing in 3 lines and nothing would be different. Do better anon.

[Anonymous No.22421588]

>>22421482
this review is like the first five paragraphs of a recipe online being rambling about how back in the day your grandmother was Isla, She-Wolf of the SS and that inspired her to come up with this family favorite potato salad recipe

and then you read the actual recipe and it's basically just mayo slathered on top of potatoes with nothing else in it because the author's a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.22421596]

>>22421552
>>22421588
That's where you're wrong. It is much closer to a dear diary entry than a review. I keep saying this, but for whatever reason everyone else insists that I'm reviewing.

[Anonymous No.22421599]

>>22421596
>dear diary
dear dairy*

[Anonymous No.22421600]

>>22421596
Probably because you end it with a rating

[Anonymous No.22421606]

>>22421600
I don't think that'd make any difference, though I can certainly try it.

[Anonymous No.22421610]

>>22421596
if it was your dear diary you wouldn't be posting it here for years for more YOUs, you clearly want ppl to see them so why are you coping with this "hurr durr I'm not actually a reviewer"
And even if it is your journal or some shit like that, you should still be aiming to progress in your writing and not ramble like a grandma, like that other anon put so succinctly

[Anonymous No.22421633]

>>22421610
I'd say that 90%+ of the time before my ardent follower who tells me how terrible they are there were zero replies, afterwards 90%+ of the time only him. So, no, it's not only YOUs. Technically I think they have improved, at least compared to the ones I was doing in 2019 or 2020 when I wasn't anything concerned about anything at all. I'm doing whatever I want without any end goal or specific purpose. Not everything has to be about progression or some specific reason. That's not the sort of mindset that I have. Sometimes there are simply irreconcilable differences. You don't have to accept that, but that's how it is. I suggest not wasting your time on losr causes, unless of course that's your preference, but I don't believe it to be.

[Anonymous No.22421636]

>>22421482
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.22421649]

>outer /lit/ is leaking into /sffg/ again
Complaining when people decide to put any amount of effort into a post is not the way to go.

[Anonymous No.22421681]

>>22421649
It's better to post something short and stupid than something long that's pretending not to be stupid. At least then anons aren't wasting their time reading it thinking there's the slightest chance it isn't something stupid. All the pity more to anyone who reads anything of length, including this.

[Anonymous No.22421735]

Is it just me or have the last few chapters of LotM been a lot more "literary" than before? Shit's getting really thick with ye old tymey speech. In a single chapter Lumian went from speaking somewhat normally to talking like a 19th century chimney sweep. Did the translator change or did he just decide to go all in?

[Anonymous No.22421757]

>>22421681
>this thread should be nothing but shitposts
Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.22421800]

>>22421757
It's better to be authentic than fake.

[Anonymous No.22421842]

>>22421800
Calling a clearly autistic person fake only makes you a garden-variety pseud, not authentic.

[Anonymous No.22421905]

>>22421842
You will never be an authentic.

[Anonymous No.22421908]

>>22421649
He's been doing this for months. Every recurring thread across the website has 1-3 of these monkeys.

[Anonymous No.22421910]

>zoomers think they can get smarter passively by browsing the high IQ threads on /lit/
>they get angry and lose all hope when they realize 90% of the threads are political bait and low effort shitposts
Has anyone else noticed this?

[Anonymous No.22421927]

>>22417713
Redshirts was one of the worst books I've ever been memed into reading, please do not waste your time

[Anonymous No.22421934]

>>22421927
It won the Hugo for best novel

[Anonymous No.22421941]

>>22421934
yeah that's why I read it but guess what
THEY WERE WRONG
if they had had any taste they would have not awarded a Hugo that year if nothing else was better.

[Anonymous No.22421942]

>>22421934
>This turd sandwich won the award for Best Turd Sandwich

[Anonymous No.22421982]

>>22421942
If you don't like scifi then why are you in a scifi thread?

[Anonymous No.22422052]

>>22417670
absolute garbage

[Anonymous No.22422054]

>>22422052
Faggot who can't listen to real music. Bakker reigns supreme.

[Anonymous No.22422080]

>>22421982
why are YOU in a sci fi thread faggot, if you don't know even the absolute shit state of the Hugos nowadays

[Anonymous No.22422083]

>>22422080
>the absolute shit state of the Hugos nowadays
It's based on voting from readers. Every anon here could nominate a book of their choice. You are just whining that you are a minority in SF spaces.

[Anonymous No.22422086]

>>22422054
I listen to black metal and death metal. that shit is just trash

[Anonymous No.22422089]

>>22422086
What instrument you play? That's right. You are a passive consoomer and likely a tourist if you also listen to Death metal, kek.

[Anonymous No.22422111]

>>22422083
You have to pay $50 to vote.

[Anonymous No.22422115]

>>22422083
ok yeah so its basically a libtard normgroid tranny popularity contest, so why are you coping and shilling that garbage Scalzi novel by saying it won a Hugo ? you rat fuck
Take ur own advice that since its all voting from readers, it doesn't mean a damn thing

[Anonymous No.22422117]

>>22422111
On that note, less than 2,000 people vote.

[Anonymous No.22422125]

The most representative of the readership overall is probably the Goodreads awards. That doesn't mean its representative of /sffg/ though. Though I think most have the wrong idea of what represents /sffg/. Vocal minorities dominate the conversation here most of the time and there's so many pushing their agenda by spamming every thread.

[Anonymous No.22422132]

Science fiction has always been liberal leaning. Not sure what's the problem with it now.

[Anonymous No.22422137]

>>22422115
I'm not him. I'm just telling you that it's based on SF readers who are active and engaged, not the ones who never buy books and just whinge about the state of publishing when they've never been apart of it on any level.
The woke retards are already trying to cancel Hugos and Worldcon because one event is being held in Chengdu, and they think that evil Communist China is problematic for "genocide" against Uyghur mudslimes.

[Anonymous No.22422139]

Should I read
>Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir
or
>The Basilisk Throne by Greg Keyes

[Anonymous No.22422143]

>>22422139
the one that doesn't start with LESBIAN on the book cover

[Anonymous No.22422155]

>>22422143
Anon I'm going to read both of them either way, and I do love lesbians.

[Anonymous No.22422159]

>>22422143
>not jacking off to Lesbian characters when they tongue another's cunts
are you gay?

[Anonymous No.22422165]

>>22422139
>Tamsyn Muir
I only know them through other avenues (Cringical Role). Are they even good?

[Anonymous No.22422170]

>>22422155
Lesbians love lesbians

[Anonymous No.22422216]

>>22422165
What relevance does Critical Role have? I think you're confused and thinking of something else.

[Anonymous No.22422239]

>>22422139
The former is one of the most popular sff of recent years, 20+ /sffg/ ratings, and the latter is new and entirely obscure, no one in /sffg/ really knows about it.

[Anonymous No.22422250]

>>22422216
Yeah I did. Anyone with a Gaelic name sounds the same to me

[Anonymous No.22422254]

>>22422143
Honestly for as much as they tout it being about lesbian space necromancers, there's VERY little lesbian-ing, not a whole lot of space, and only a decent amount of necromancy.
Gideon the Ninth is a murder mystery where the protagonist just kind of doesn't actually participate in the mystery and mostly just putzes about while the plot goes on around her.

[Anonymous No.22422321]

>>22422254
>lesbian space necromancers

[Anonymous No.22422332]

>>22421982
>if it won a Hugo that means it's good

[Anonymous No.22422337]

>>22422139
grown ass man buying books with the faggiest covers I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.22422417]

>>22422337
It's adult fiction, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.22422437]

>>22422337

[Anonymous No.22422440]

>>22421552
>filtered by rrambling
LOL

[Anonymous No.22422455]

>lotr is better than the average web novel
Only npcs believe this

[Anonymous No.22422469]

>>22422455
Name one weeb novel

[Anonymous No.22422480]

>>22422469
LMS

[Anonymous No.22422496]

And then there's Dante.

[Anonymous No.22422538]

>>22421934
So it's certified garbage

[Anonymous No.22422561]

>>22422155
>I do love lesbians
kys fag

[Anonymous No.22422563]

>>22422538
>Starship Troopers
>A Canticle for Leibowitz
>Stranger in a Strange Land
>The Man in the High Castle
>Dune
>Lord of Light
>The Left Hand of Darkness
>Foundation's Edge
>Neuromancer
>Ender's Game
>Hyperion
All certified garbage then?

[Anonymous No.22422578]

>>22422496
Do women really buy this?
Like, for real on god

[Anonymous No.22422585]

>>22422578
I don't know but she's actually insane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g2U0EQze_0

[Anonymous No.22422587]

>>22422455
npcs are based

[Anonymous No.22422590]

>>22422455
Webnovels are entirely new and it only appeals to a small subset of online people.

[Anonymous No.22422594]

Fantasy with a fat guy marrying a beauty in fantasy?
I need copium to deal with my shit fucking job

[Anonymous No.22422597]

>>22422563
No, just the ones that are pozzed. Basically most if not all hugo winners released in the last 15 years and many older hugos too.

[Anonymous No.22422601]

>>22422480
what's that stand for, lick my scrotum?

[Anonymous No.22422619]

>>22422594
The Black Company kind of. Croaker gets fat much later but Lady and Soul Taker weren't into him for his looks in the first place. Theres even a blonde haired blue eyed giga chad who falls in love with Croaker's girl later and Croaker is just smug about how it'll never happen.

[Anonymous No.22422626]

>>22422590
>Webnovels are entirely new
Older than you Jacob
>>22422601
Not going to spoonfeed you

[Anonymous No.22422628]

>>22422597
The problem is that it's democratic: fans choose the nominees. Worldcon needs to become benevolently authoritarian. Only those who have mastered the very best that SF has to offer shall be able to ask permission to join a secret guild that bears the mark of a flaming fist. Inside a vestibule of some ancient castle, the initiated must recite the Troll-on-woman rape scenes from The Broken Sword. After that, the acolytes shall be given a decade of training in the fantastical arts, via rote learning of every single based and redpilled fantasy and science fiction book on Earth. They shall only be allowed to write their essays of each text in the ichor of Bakker's semi-dead body that has been in a cryogenic state since he donated his consciousness to the AI gods.
After ten years of training, the adepts shall then upload their consciousness to the BASED INTERFACE and pour through thousands upon thousands of submissions fed to them by AI. But they will drop a text as soon as there is even a hint of cringe representation or sneaky politics of resentment. Of the several worthy texts that remain, the adepts will discourse over their merits, and predict the trajectories of their BASEDNESS over time with using various identifiers and supercomputer-level calculations.
The castle with the AI interface will of course be hidden from the public. And the presenters and "judges" shown to the public will be paid actors who have been sworn into the creed, but never know the true nature of the selection process.

[Anonymous No.22422633]

>>22422597
Once you are a bit older you will realize that all of them are pozzed.

[Anonymous No.22422634]

>>22422626
I was born in 1998 and people generally think Worm is the first famous web serial (2011-2013).

[Anonymous No.22422642]

>>22422628
>The problem is that it's democratic: fans choose the nominees. Worldcon needs to become benevolently authoritarian.
They can't do this as they would lose any air of legitimacy that they somehow manage to maintain. It's far more reasonable to pick the most pozzed out of the nominee than to just pick whatever your aids-infested buttbuddie shat out.

[Anonymous No.22422644]

>>22422642
Did you read how I would make authoritarianism benevolent? Come to the light.

[Anonymous No.22422653]

>>22422634
You're either trolling or retarded. My guess is both. Even LMS is from 2007; and webnovels weren't a new thing then.
>>22422644
If you pretend that hugo award leeches are benevolent actors then they are benevolent, the point is that they aren't otherwise they wouldn't produce obvious nonsense.

[Anonymous No.22422661]

>>22422633
Old age typically does rot the brain.

[Anonymous No.22422665]

>>22422653
Sorry I mistyped, I meant worm is the first webnovel to be declared popular by traditional media kikes. Not that it was ever actually popular, influential or anything like that.

[Anonymous No.22422670]

>>22422665
Are you saying jews lied about it? That's absurd.

[Anonymous No.22422683]

>>22422670
I'm saying WordPress miscounts bots and spiders as viewers, so it makes some random novel seem like it's 10x everything around it and fresh out of college "journalists" working for their parents see it and blast it cause it scratches whatever Semitic itch they have at the moment.

[Anonymous No.22422712]

>>22422653
Web wasn’t even widely used until the 2000s because it was expensive and “hard to use” for normies. Show me a web novel from 1997.

[Anonymous No.22422720]

>>22422712
You are a retarded zoomer. I will not spoonfeed you. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.22422743]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0
Anon about to load up his web series, The Spot, to get his day's fill of California actors and hip writers!

[Anonymous No.22422755]

>>22422720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCZZKwzKIRo
Woah! man, did you email the characters from the spot and ask them about how Scotty peeped on Monica as she dressed???
[still not a webnovel]

[Anonymous No.22422756]

>>22422712
>t. what is alt.*
>t. what is humanties.*
zooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

[Anonymous No.22422757]

>>22422756
>rec.*

[Anonymous No.22422843]

>>22421908
Generals are the worst place to talk about their topics. I've seen way better sff threads on /tg/ and /k/ because there aren't dedicated trolls trying to stomp out any conversation.

[Anonymous No.22422882]

>>22422139
Gideon is fun. It's basically relies on fanfic writing tropes and memes but with an OC setting and characters. The later books are sort of a drag though.

[Anonymous No.22422901]

>>22422743
why did it make that sound?

[Anonymous No.22423041]

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[Anonymous No.22423103]

>>22422594
Dread Empire