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22404034 No.22404034 [Reply] [Original]

why women authors are obsessed with writing novels where a trillionaire CEO rapes the protagonist

>> No.22404358

Bump.

>> No.22404366

Less than no reason to bump your retarded ass thread that I assume is based on one smut franchise from a decade ago

>> No.22404477

>>22404366
Based and vampire pilled

>> No.22404482

>>22404034
Popular romance fiction, both for women and men (though for men it's more likely to show up in anime/manga) is ultimately wish fulfillment of the same wish, manifesting itself differently. The wish in question is the desire Not to Have to Do Any of the Fucking Work.

I will elaborate upon request.

>> No.22404544

>>22404482
I request

>> No.22405020

>>22404544
Let's start with the archetype described by the OP, which predated 50 Shades but is most widely known by it. The two main elements that he more or less correctly identified are the wealth/status and the dominant sexuality. This can be boiled down to two fundamental concepts where the woman self inserting doesn't want to do the fucking work:
1. actual work, as in a job.
2. Putting any effort into sex.

I'll go over some other examples across the sexes later, but for now I'll say this isn't particularly judgemental on my part. It's supposed to be an exaggerated fantasy, people generally want things to be easier in fantasies.

>> No.22405026
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22405026

Women are exhausting op

>> No.22405030

>>22405020
agreed

>> No.22405032

Why are female readers obsessed with books and movies about deranged killers and vile crimes?

>> No.22405039

>>22405032
Object of desire fantasy, penetrative fantasy, social rule breaking fantasy...

>> No.22405259

>>22405020
Continuing on, as I mentioned initially, this is hardly exclusive to women. A good example of a male equivalent is the often (probably too often) maligned archetype of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl. The fantasy there is that someone will come along and introduce light and love into the man's formerly dreary life. The work avoidance being fantasized here is:
1. Having to put in effort to fix your own life.
2. Having to put in effort to court a woman.

In the fantasy, it's all done for you. This example isn't as overtly sexual, but then in boomer thrillers where the love interest is usually flatter and more aggressively sexual, the work being avoided is the male flip side of the 50 shades example: not having to put any effort into sex. The partners are in the mood all the time and foreplay is either short or nonexistent.

>> No.22405276

>>22405259
Another male example is shit like the Alchemist, where all the love interests are sad, but ultimately accepting that the protagonist needs to move on from them and continue a grand quest upon which they are content to be a stepping stone. This is the fantasy of not doing the fucking work of:
1. Actually making any changes or sacrifices to yourself for an emotionally intimate relationship
2. Properly breaking up and accepting the responsibility and consequences where someone is going to be hurt.

I'm a bit more contemptuous of the last example than the others, but again I don't think any of this is inherently bad, it's just escapism. In real life people can be willing to put in effort, it's just nice to imagine what it would be like if you didn't. I do think it stops these types of narratives from becoming really fulfilling art though.

>> No.22405289

>>22405276
I'll add as a last note that while people (especially on the internet) like to complain about the unreasonable expectations people have for partners by looking at the media they consume, reality isn't quite that harsh and exaggerated. They will have tamer versions of those desires. The woman who likes the bondage billionaire in fiction would probably be perfectly happy with a financially stable man who actually puts some effort into sex. The dumb harem protagonist anime fan who likes big cartoon titties can be made happy in real life by one moderately attractive woman who shows him some affection without him having to beg. Fiction isn't always reality, and condemning people for having silly comforting fantasies isn't helpful. I think men have it worse on that front, as while people will mock stuff like 50 Shades, male romantic fantasies have been largely villanized.

>> No.22405303

They have similar motivations to men who like to watch pornography and play violent video games.