ETERNAL REMINDER

[Anonymous No.22396743]

You know the drill. Read it. Learn about it. Take notes. Pray to Christ.

[Anonymous No.22396750]

>>22396743
I know the drill but who remembers the dress?

[Anonymous No.22396757]

There's not enough room on this board for two eternal reminders.

[Anonymous No.22396771]

>>22396757
I am simply on a mission to spread the Good News of Hegel. I have no quarrel with the threads on Kant. My purpose is separate from and indifferent to that. These threads shall remain for a time until the Logos has been sufficiently spread.

[Anonymous No.22396857]

Christcuckery is not a sign of good metaphysics. Sorry. Not reading this trite garbage if it's polluted with jewish death cult nonsense.

[Anonymous No.22396886]

>>22396857
There are decidedly atheistic and nonreligious interpretations of Hegel, and Hegel himself was not explicitly religious or Christian (though we know he knew the Trinity better than anyone else). That's what makes him so *radically liberating.* Pop open a beer and get cracking, fren.

[Anonymous No.22396922]

>>22396886
>Hegel himself was not explicitly religious

Hegel
>God and God only is the Truth.

[Anonymous No.22396933]

>>22396922
based as fuck. I stand corrected. God is the Way and the Light, indeed.

[Anonymous No.22396935]

>>22396922
>Hegel
>>God and God only is the Truth.
what makes him seethe though

[Anonymous No.22396950]

>>22396922
But his conception of God does not fit with any of the dominant religions, especially Protestant Christianity which he tried to post hoc make fit.

[Anonymous No.22396953]

>>22396935
I'm pretty sure he was seething against formal idealists, empiricists, and mechanical philosophers (Newton, etc.), and rightly so. Life isn't *solely* explainable through mechanical, lifeless, soulless theories. His absolute "seethe" was justified.

[Anonymous No.22396958]

>>22396953
his God can't be the God of Leibniz

[Anonymous No.22396969]

Why do satanists, pagans, and atheists pretend to be Christian so much?

[Anonymous No.22397008]

>>22396969
Are you implying that Hegel is a satanist, pagan, or atheist (or all three)?

[Anonymous No.22397032]

>>22397008
Both him and most of the posters ITT

[Anonymous No.22397045]

>>22397032
LOL parallax gods

[Anonymous No.22397048]

>>22397032
And how do you come to that conclusion? I made the thread. I'm in earnest when I say I want to spread the Good Word and News of Hegel, who was informed ultimately by God. How is that in any way satanic or atheistic?

[Anonymous No.22397053]

>>22397048
It's satanic because you associate an occultist pagan with the Gospels.

[Anonymous No.22397143]

>>22397053
There's no basis for that accusation of his being an "occultist pagan." What proof do you have there? For all we know he was a churchgoing, loving father. And his work shows that he was basically Christian and was inspired by the Gospels.

[Anonymous No.22397153]

>>22396743
Hegel is extremely difficult to understand. Hence, he was a bad philosopher. Modern philosophy works like pic related and the books by Bernardo Kastrup are easy to understand, which is how philosophy should be done. Why do so many people on /lit/ worship unintelligible, ancient texts? Just because they are old? If they picked up a philosophy journal they would find understandable philosophy immediately.

That aside, NDEs do confirm Hegels view thst God is real, because NDEs are real and prove that there is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die. And NDErs talk about God running the afterlife. Therefore God exists.

And NDEs are more real than life. One way this manifests is how much better and more intense the feelings are there. As one woman remarked:

>"So I went into the light, and as I was moving up into the light, I just started to feel so good. You know like I can't, words can't explain it. Like the higher that I went into the light, and the more that I moved up and further away from Earth, the better I felt. And the feeling of pleasure does not really apply to this Earth, like nothing can compare. Like if you took everything that you were in favor of, like maybe getting a massage, in a hot tub, your favorite music, your favorite food, your favorite drink, everything that you love, happening to you all at once, no matter what it is, all at once, it would not even closely compare to the pleasure that was just within that light. And as you moved further into, like further away from this Earth, the pleasure felt even better. So you just moved up it felt better and better, it was insane."

From here: https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o

And the NDE convinces everyone who has it, even hardcore skeptics, according to this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

So this argument is literally airtight, irrefutable proof of an afterlife, because we know now that the NDE will convince anyone, no matter how skeptical they may be.

[Anonymous No.22397163]

>>22397143
> his work shows that he was basically Christian
His philosophy was antichristic. You're disgusting.

[Anonymous No.22397177]

>>22397163
Go blow it out your ass.

[Anonymous No.22397542]

>>22396743
Western philosophy is a conceptual pursuit. We think we can understand the nature of experience by thinking it through. But then we find we're out of coffee and we get pissed off. It's abstract philosophy divorced from life.

The Buddhist path is an ontological exploration, not a philosophical system. It can't be properly understood without meditation. The path is realized, not understood.

Plato's cave analogy is very apt. The chained people mistaking shadows for reality corresponds to samsara. The people behind them casting shadows might correspond to natural laws that determine the shapes of the shadows. Outside the cave is enlightenment; buddhahood. In that model, western philosophy would be happening mainly or entirely in the shadow world.

Intellectual masturbation of the highest order.

Stan Buddha.
Follow the Eightfold path.

[Anonymous No.22397551]

>>22397153
You're in the afterlife.

You came from your past life.

And you'll enter your next life as another being.

[Anonymous No.22398084]

>>22396743
The spirit is a skull-bone.

[Anonymous No.22398101]

>>22396743
i am so lost Hegelbros...

[Anonymous No.22398108]

>>22398101
It's all right. It's already in you. Truth and knowledge are already you. Take it page by page.

[Anonymous No.22398125]

>>22396743
Hegel BTFO'd:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8iKFVdmjYq2N/

[Anonymous No.22398132]

>>22398125
Can you partially explain how instead of linking a link that I won't touch for not knowing its source?

[Anonymous No.22398378]

Redpill me about Hegel bros. I've been bumping into his Phenom of Spirit lately but I get intimidated just by looking at the cover

[Anonymous No.22398399]

>>22398378
It just takes time and lots of patience and some coffee and cream. Basically, you're going to be saved. That's just it. You'll be saved.

[Anonymous No.22398404]

>>22396771
>I have no quarrel with Kant . . .

Then you are not really Hegelian. The Phenomenology is where many of Kant's assertions about metaphysics and morality are successfully debunked. Kant has his place of course, and his transcendental analysis of the categories and explanations of synthetic a priori knowledge are not simply false. But Hegel does show that Kantian morality and the concept of a "thing-in-itself" are only finite determinations that do not bind behavior or limit our understanding in the way Kant claims that they do.

[Anonymous No.22398423]

>>22398404
Thank you for your post. What I said originally was that I don't have a problem with the *threads* on Kant vis-à-vis the being or entity who regularly posts them. I am well aware that Hegel takes Kant both proverbially to task and to town for his transcendental stupidity. Hegel completed Kant's thought and also sublated him, but, in Hegelian fashion, as you also allude to, we keep Kant around as a sublated moment in the dialectic.

[Anonymous No.22398462]

>>22398423
>I don't have a problem with the *threads* on Kant

This is a very fair distinction. Kant is useful because the first critique contextualizes Hegel and dialectical thought writ large. Worthwhile to remember that Hegel is not the only German Idealist.

[Anonymous No.22398468]

>>22396743
brute facts do not endure. can you guess what this problem is?

[Anonymous No.22398501]

>>22398462
>Worthwhile to remember that Hegel is not the only German Idealist.
yes there is also Eschenmeyer and Bouterwek

[Anonymous No.22398513]

>>22398462
>>22398501
We also cannot and must not forget Fichte and Schelling, whom Hegel also sublated and to whom was deeply indebted.

[Anonymous No.22398546]

>>22398513
Fredric Jameson has a point in this quote:

>But in Hegel’s case I will merely claim that, after the Phenomenology, it is Hegel himself who turns his own thought into a philosophy and a system; in other words, who, with the
later collaboration of his disciplines, produces something we may call Hegelianism, in contrast to that rich practice of dialectical thinking we find in the first great 1807 masterpiece. Such a distinction will help us understand that virtually all the varied contemporary attacks on Hegel are in
reality so many indictments of Hegelianism as a philosophy, or, what amounts to the same thing, as an ideology.

Part of this is whether you prefer Phenomenology or Science of Logic, but it's definitely true that Phenomenology is a better example of how dialectical thought busts up ideologically entrenched/commonsensical thinking.

[Anonymous No.22398549]

>>22398513
yes indeed fellow german idealist anon. good point: and also Beck and Reinhold.

[Anonymous No.22398551]

>>22398546
they COULD exist?

[Anonymous No.22398649]

>>22396886
Hegel said he was a Christian throughout his life, attended church, and said as much in private letters. He was a heterodox Christian in the Behemist mold but attempts to make him an atheist are forced to straight up ignore tons of quotes and a great deal of his writing. It's nonsense, just like non metaphysical readings.

[Anonymous No.22398659]

>>22398649
this.

[Anonymous No.22398692]

>>22396743
I have tried but I really cannot understand. Other philosophers have not been nearly as challenging for me, even the other Germans. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.22398699]

>>22398692
another translation? try dover edition

[Anonymous No.22398708]

>>22398692
Also the Pinkard translation. AV Miller is pretty classic, but the translation is dated and often harder to follow than it has to be.

[Anonymous No.22398812]

>>22396743
>pray to Christ

How about you read it first OP, instead of making threads pretending you've read it?

[Anonymous No.22399128]

>>22396743
I don't have my German up to C2 level yet... once I have my Großes Deutsches Sprachdiplom and have read Kant z"l, then I will read it Hegel z"l

[Anonymous No.22399270]

>preface for philosophical work doesn't work, he says as he proceeds to write a preface for his philosophical work
Fucking hack. And yes I only read the preface and knew he was worthless

[Anonymous No.22399274]

>>22396743
oh sure

[Anonymous No.22400284]

>>22396743
My favorite part of the Phenomenology is the passage from Reason as Testing Laws to Spirit.

[Anonymous No.22400453]

>>22399270
I don't think you understand that Hegel is a *very* ironic writer--Socratic in that respect, in fact. And the Preface *is* essential to the rest of the work's development.

[Anonymous No.22400456]

>>22396743
>factions

the absolute state

[Anonymous No.22400548]

>>22400456
what did the faction-anon mean by this?

[Anonymous No.22400555]

>>22398812
Although I admit that I'm still stuck on the last hundred pages, I've basically read it and re-read it several times over, and he's Christian. Sorry to say, but he's Christian. BTFO.

[Anonymous No.22400580]

>>22398546
This.
>>22398649
Agreed. He comes off as a Christian thinker in the Phenomenology. Its under- and overtones are unmistakable.
>>22398692
He's actually the first philosopher I've ever deeply read. It's challenging for me too because I don't have Plato, Aristotle, and the Greeks as a foundation to go off of. I'm reading H.S. Harris's Hegel's Ladder along with the Phenomenology; his is basically a paragraph-by-paragraph commentary that's been illuminating and very helpful in many respects vis-à-vis giving historical background and context. I'd recommend it: it's on libgen.
>>22398812
Like I said above, it honestly comes across as a Christian text. The undertones are there and unmistakable.
>>22399128
What does z"l mean? And yes, I've been trying to read the original here and there, though I don't have the best grasp of the German language.

[Anonymous No.22400971]

>>22400580
I will check out Harris, thank you.

[Anonymous No.22400973]

>>22396743
I am planning on reading Hegel after im done with Kant which is soon... Is there a reading order you guys prefer or can I jump directly into his Phenomenology ?

[Anonymous No.22401049]

>>22400971
Sure.
>>22400973
There isn't really a reading order as far as I know. It just so happens that Hegel's most difficult work is also his first major one, die Phänomenologie des Geistes. I started with that and am still with it, though I plan on reading the Science of Logic afterwards.

[Anonymous No.22401094]

>>22400973
>Frühe Schriften (Early Writings)
>Jenaer Schriften (Jena Writings)

[Anonymous No.22401596]

Bump!

[Anonymous No.22402866]

>>22397153
God is real but there is no evidence for the afterlife. There is only life and death.

[Anonymous No.22402875]

>>22397153
We need to bring back intellectual elitism and heavily coded texts to filter normies. Pop philosophy trite disgusts me just like your shitpost appealing to near death experience as evidence.

[Anonymous No.22402891]

>>22402875
>We need to bring back intellectual elitism and heavily coded texts to filter normies

[Anonymous No.22402904]

>>22402891
This is coming from the anon who thinks that having a dream is evidence of something

[Anonymous No.22402907]

So, anon... did you reach Absolute Knowing yet?

[Anonymous No.22402908]

>>22402904
you have autism and i'm not that poster retard
xo

[Anonymous No.22402928]

>>22402908
>you just have [meaningless buzzword]
Everything you touch and look upon including language is debased because you roll around without a care. You’re part of the problem really, everything is for heckin everyone! Dregs like you won’t be satisfied until everything under the sun has been turned into derivative pop drivel with little to no substance.

[Anonymous No.22403020]

>>22402907
I've been reached Absolute Knowing consciousnesslet.

[Anonymous No.22403025]

>>22396743
>God exists

[Anonymous No.22403086]

>>22403025
>t. doesn't know