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>just dream of living in hawaii as your race goes extinct bro
Impeccable.

>> No.22395708

Goy Slop by Bronze Age Shill

>> No.22395729

I think the right has slowly slipped into idealistic political fantasies, mostly because no political solution appears remotely possible anymore and the telos has basically vanished from political history for them. The light at the end of the tunnel is just a train.

>> No.22395745

>>22395729
>the right
BAP represents ~2% of the right and ~50% of zionists regardless of political affiliation

>> No.22395749
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22395749

Nationalism? Defending your homeland? Preserving the blood of your people? That’s nonsense, guys. If we want to fight against the elites we should be making porn instead.

>> No.22395756

>>22395749
Correct. We should show these sclerotics by doing nothing that threatens them! You just don't get it, bugman

>> No.22395758

>>22395703
Reminder that BAP was in a thread recently and had a meltdown after getting btfo for being an israel loving homosexual

>> No.22395768
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>>22395758
KEK

>> No.22395770

>>22395729
still better than joining the suicide cult of modern leftism.

>> No.22395777

>>22395758
Kek big if true
sauce?

>> No.22395785

>>22395703
>race
Doesn't exist

>> No.22395794

>>22395758
that was really cringe

>> No.22395803

>>22395749
>Nationalism
Is fake
> Defending your homeland
Bourgeois concern
> Preserving the blood of your people
Race is utter bullshit

>> No.22395810

>>22395703
I never hear about Nick Fuentes except with this book gets mentioned.

>> No.22395812

>>22395803
How do you plan to fight against the elites?

>> No.22395814

>>22395810
a fellow new york times reader.......

>> No.22395818

>>22395812
By seizing the means of production and usurping political power by way of ever increasing working class association

>> No.22395822

>>22395818
Well, that's still than making pornography comrade

>> No.22395825

>>22395822
*still better

>> No.22395826

>>22395818
all of the concepts you mentioned are fake and with no basis in reality

>> No.22395828

>>22395826
They are real but whether they would be good is a different story
and it's still better than degenerate onanism

>> No.22395831

>>22395826
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/
There read it

>> No.22395832

>>22395703
I can't win with this guy

>> No.22395833

>>22395822
Hopefully these lonely anti-social racist misogynistic men can find some other retarded eceleb who isn't as cringe

>> No.22395835

>>22395831
sorry I don't like ethnic literature

>> No.22395837

>>22395835
>it's too long and boring for me

>> No.22395838

>>22395818
So, hispanic nationalism?

>> No.22395840

>>22395818
so just economic dysgenics

>> No.22395841

>>22395838
>>22395840
all of that is straight up communism
that poster is quoting marx directly

>> No.22395842

>>22395838
>>22395840
Nah, just the labour movement

>> No.22395846

GROYPER ARMY ASSEMBLE

>> No.22395851

>>22395828
>They are real
they are social constructs

>> No.22395855

>>22395851
well desu, I mainly just hate the degenerate age mindset for being a grifter

>> No.22395856

>>22395703
glorification of thuggery

>> No.22395858
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22395858

>>22395841
I know

>> No.22395860
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>>22395785
t.

>> No.22395862

>>22395856
this
The guy's so-called "heroic destruction" is literal glorification of people like BLM and antifa. Same exact shit. On the same side in every respect

>> No.22395866
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>>22395858

>> No.22395872

>>22395842
but the working class is catholic brown supremacists

>> No.22395880

>>22395872
No they're not

>> No.22395902

>>22395880
Yes they are. All spics are

>> No.22395904

>>22395902
They're not and the working class is a international strata of society

>> No.22395907

>>22395758
Link??

>> No.22395908

>>22395862
BLM and antifa's play-thuggery is under the safe wing of the police state and moneyed elite directing it and financing its losses, it's child's play, we could do better
one day you'll maybe realize the likes of BLM and antifa only exist because of that beloved meek tax-paying christian white cattle many of you seem to champion as core subject/object of your political "ideas"

>> No.22395910

>>22395904
asinine cope
prepare to have your cracker ass sacrificed to xipe totec

>> No.22395911
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22395911

>>22395908
>play-thuggery
No True Thug!
Laughing my ass off at you, shill. If I'm against you I must be a goy, right?

>> No.22395913

>>22395908
It's glorification of them, not of what allows them to exist
same shit

>> No.22395915

>>22395910
What're the chances that you're in your late 20s-mid 30s and still shitposting like a child

>> No.22395917

>>22395915
Zero. I'm 25 and south euro. I personally get to oversee sending 60 IQ niggers to germany amd brussels and you can't stop me

>> No.22395918

>>22395908
BAP is on the record saying that if blacks are more inclined to criminality then that's something admirable of them

>> No.22395922

>>22395703
obligatory seapeople addition

>> No.22395926

>>22395917
Literally in the prime of your life and acting like a retard on 4chan pls find purpose

>> No.22395928

>>22395913
sure, they have good instincts, they perceive an enemy, albeit in a kaleidoscope placed in front of their eyes, and attack it, that's still better than the last men whose instincts have entirely been sapped away from them into a zootechnically engineered cowlike mockery of man

>> No.22395929

>>22395918
the guy is really just a professor dork cosplaying as a right winger
he fits in better with the left

>> No.22395935

>>22395928
Glad you admit you're thug-glorifying. I accept your concession.
I too think Dontavious from the ghetto of Chicago has good instincts too, fellow BAPer! Go seapeople!

>> No.22395940

>>22395918
compared to the average white bugman, it most definitely is, mostly because their inclination to criminality is a sign of the rejection of the shopkeeper bourgeoisie life that is placed in front of them as only possible avenue
normally these men would be sent to the front and realize their masculinity there but in the global economic panoptikon of pax americana that too is essentially a closed road

>> No.22395941

Who are the key players approved by the Dissident Right™?

>> No.22395943

>>22395928
I agree, but the point is that BAP doesn't care about whitey going extinct
makes sense since he's beige himself

>> No.22395947
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22395947

>>22395922
get fucked seaPOOPle

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22395954

>>22395940
>dude it's white americans and pax americana that cause Tyrone to thug
>and that's a good thing
Hi Saul.

>> No.22395955

>>22395928
You are arguing with neo-nazis. Of course they defend a docile cow world, endless bureaucracy is their main goal. They're just bugmen who want to say slurs without consequences.

>> No.22395958

>>22395935
>concession
open admission you mean, I never denied the antithesis
it's not binary either, there's lots of variation in thuggery too, bantus for instance while having some good bellicose instincts don't really seem to be able to concentrate them into grand projects unfortunately, I doubt we'll ever see Bantu Napoleon

>> No.22395961

>>22395955
>neo-nazis. Of course they defend a docile cow world
IT GLOWS

>> No.22395964

>>22395955
How can I be a Nazi if I want Germans to die out? Checkmate

>> No.22395965

>>22395954
not sure why you are likening me to one of the founders of christianity but ok

>> No.22395969

>>22395955
The entire "bugman" meme was a disaster for online discourse if only by reducing things to this retarded dichotomy between the drone-consumer life and le glorious death worshipper.

>> No.22395970

>>22395965
oh, sorry, did that offend you?

>> No.22395973

>>22395943
>BAP doesn't care about whitey going extinct
from the little I follow him that seems wrong, he rallies constantly about mass migration into white countries as one of the key political points for westerners to deal with asap

>> No.22395975

>>22395969
>t. bugman

>> No.22395976

>>22395961
You guys just love to play the victim don't you.

>> No.22395983

>>22395973
You shill faggots have the exact same talking point in every thread
>from the little I follow him
>let me give a detailed and generous explanation

Do you get paid for this trash

>> No.22395985

>>22395973
But bro his #1 objective isn't to clone Hitler so he's a heckin fed jew by default

>> No.22395986

>>22395970
to be likened to a little monobrowed jewish agitator from ancient Anatolia I think would offend most non-christians

>> No.22395987

>>22395973
I follow him on x
he might talk about it but his advice to it remains the same: just eat good cheese and go to hawaii bro. No dont associate with those dumb white nationalists! But then against white nationalism is good if it aligns with zionism (he is on record saying this)
bait and switch really

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>>22395985
>heckin fed jew
go back newfag
You stick out like a golden... satellite

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22395999

Behold the savior of Amerikwa: a non-white jew
As is tradition

>> No.22396003

>>22395983
this may surprise you but here's the thing: you can discuss some author/figure without obsessing over it, BAP did not invent non-christian/Nietzschean right wing ideas
I haven't even read his book, mostly my views just overlap in part with his plus we both enjoy Homeric Greek

>> No.22396007

>>22395986
Sorry Moshe. I know bringing up these disgusting heretics gets your kind going.

>> No.22396011

>>22395999
checked and kek'd
Verification not required.

>> No.22396016

>>22396007
why are you calling me Moses? I think I made myself fairly clear that I'm not christian

>> No.22396018

>>22395987
>No dont associate with those dumb white nationalists!
There are currently no "white nationalist" movements/causes to join or further, my dear delusional zoomer. Discord servers and breakaway glownigger compounds do not qualify.

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22396022

>>22396016
I think it's funny. u mad breh?

>> No.22396026

>>22396018
yeah but join bap's faggot twitter clique that's totally tough and cool
S H I L L P O S T

>> No.22396027

>>22396022
weird game but ok Abraham

>> No.22396028

>>22395837
Marx admitted he was wrong and backpedaled so many time he basically ended up saying nothing at all. Typical jew. If I talk enough people won't realize I'm saying nothing.

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22396033

>>22396027
Do American names trigger you?

>> No.22396034

>>22396028
Can you show me where marx admitted he was wrong?

>> No.22396037

>>22396026
His proposed strategy of infiltrating existing institutions is the only sound one I've seen.

>> No.22396038
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22396038

>>22396033
>American
cmon Solomon

>> No.22396040

>>22396037
Thanks for admitting your shilling for ONE guy and astroturfing
FAGGOT - kill yourself

>> No.22396041

>>22395703
That shit is a pressure pipe meant to channel anti-systemic (lmao that word member the past world with its unironic 'fuck the system') vibration. lame and uncreative. Essentially it is anti-life: a resentment masquerading itself as le based worldview. No salvation in those rags.

>> No.22396043

>>22395908
>beloved meek tax-paying christian white cattle
Protistants are not democrats, only catholics are. Majority of democrats are atheist-agnostic, mentally ill, lost, and on pills.

>> No.22396049

>>22396038
u mad?

>> No.22396051

>>22396018
There are WN social groups and upstart political parties with zero (0) evidence of any federal honeypot infiltration. Ironic to the first half of the comment this accusation is just something the terminally online say in order to justify their not going outside.

>> No.22396056

>>22396040
I'm not "shilling" for anyone you paranoid freak. I can acknowledge that he has one decent idea and a bunch of really stupid ones as well (all the "pirate" shit, for example).

>> No.22396059

>>22396049
Jehoshaphat pls

>> No.22396061

>>22396059
:^)

>> No.22396062

>>22396034
He realized critique of political economy was mentally retarded and patched it

>> No.22396063

>>22396051
Cool. Can you name them?

>> No.22396069

>>22395729
yes, yes
we must all repent and go back to jesus christ and vote republican yadda yadda
fuck off, please.

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22396070

>>22396063
>Cool. Can you name them?

>> No.22396072

>>22396051
Name two (2)

>> No.22396073

>>22396063
Nick Fuentes.

>> No.22396075

>>22396062
You do know he spent most of his life showing how political economy is bullshit? That's literally the subtitle to Capital

>> No.22396077

>>22396070
Just like I thought. Have fun being irrelevant.

>> No.22396078

>>22395758
take your meds

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22396079

>>22395703
BAP thread attracts Glowies like flies... interesting

>> No.22396084

>>22396073
When is the earliest election Nick can run for president of the United States?

>> No.22396085

>>22396075
My prefered kike is mises, sorry tranny

>> No.22396086

>>22396077
Literally the only people who care about any of this are lonely anti-social men on 4chan, like two forums that barely break three digits in active users and the red scare podcast

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22396088

the catboy army is all in today, huh?

>> No.22396091

>>22396085
Tbf completely rejecting the concept of empirical evidence is pretty based

>> No.22396096

>>22396091
Yeah plus the fabians are who rule the world and both of our sides are cucked

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22396099

>>22395703
we've secured the thread

>> No.22396100

>>22396084
Lol elections. Anyway, I was jokering, buddy. What i sneeded is an evolution of consciousness. At first as an ethos, as a mood. As a.. vibe that is worth living in. Love, creativity and an attitude of zero fears.

>> No.22396103

>>22396088
Battle of the Feminine Bulge

>> No.22396106

>>22396100
you a gay nigga

>> No.22396108

>>22396041
>a resentment masquerading itself as le based worldview
Honestly after following bap, that's around 90% of the accs that follow him kek

>> No.22396115

>>22396108
My problem is that the prose is OBVIOUS esl

>> No.22396116

>>22396106
Unlike that nigga faggot Costin thats for sure

>> No.22396127

>>22396079
Well he is one himself.
Sidorsky (his mentor) is ex IDF intelligence and a soldier, and another one he retweets was also an IDF soldier

>> No.22396128

>>22396100
But all you preach is hate, division and destruction.

>> No.22396129

>>22396127
lol damn

>> No.22396131

>>22396128
Why do you think what he wrote contradicts what you wrote?

>> No.22396132

can someone explain what BAP meant by this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggboca2rkrM

>> No.22396133

>>22396106
On the contrary, I'm the last straight pre-historic Albanian white man. I'm just saying any vibe with traces of resentment is engineered to waste your soul-energy. What I'm saying is – Christ, however understood from within the context of the basement dwelling activities adjacent zeitgeist's son. The redemption must come not from without but from the immanent moss, from the very air, once poisoned – now regenerated.

>> No.22396137

>>22396133
you gay as fuck and a bombast

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22396146

>>22396137
not like BAP that's for sure

>> No.22396148

>>22396132
Why are chuds such grudgeful little faggot crabs? Can't they let dudes be dudes and have some fun?

>> No.22396152

>>22396146
Why are you guys so gay?

>> No.22396155

>>22396137
You said gay twice. Are you sure you're not being programmed with seeing gay left and right? Claiming the opponent's gay to verify your own masculinity (and correctness) – to me that is pretty backward, t bh.

>> No.22396160

>>22396127
>>22396129
Luttwak
Literally everyone associated with bap is a hardline jewish supremacist and has also likely killed palestinians in the levant. Bap is far above the typical askhenazi NYC drone as fat as semitic credential goes

>> No.22396162

>>22395926
based sincere poster

>> No.22396163 [DELETED] 

>>22396152
>fascist guys turn out to be gay
this came as a surprise to you? really?

>> No.22396166

>>22396155
You're gay bro

>> No.22396168

>>22396133
>Bubrekian
>white

>> No.22396170

>>22396166
I'm sure you'd want that to be the case.

>> No.22396174

>>22396170
Ok gayboy

>> No.22396176

>>22395703
ohhhhhhhhhh, just retire and abscond while everyone suffers

>> No.22396180

If BAP was honest he'd say to his followers to start NGOs that promote immigration just so he can accelerate and also leech shekels from the government as an NGO
But he's a gimmick and he'll never amount to anything besides poorly written word salad substacks

>> No.22396181

>>22396174
OK Groomer

>> No.22396182

>>22396176
Yes. Homeschool, garden, chickens, hogs, sheep. Simple as.

>> No.22396186

>138 replies
>18 posters
yikes

>> No.22396191

>>22396182
where is all this coming from? do you already own the plot?

>> No.22396192

Are these threads like Daily Mail comments for basement schizos?

>> No.22396194

>>22396192
>replies themselves
what did (they) mean by this

>> No.22396195

>>22395729
Only solution is mass terrorism, nothing else will work

>> No.22396198

>>22395818
You'd just end up the same as today. Democracy/Communism/anything egalitarian will always lead to the 21st century.

>> No.22396199

>>22396195
And then what?

>> No.22396200

alright pack it up its shining

>> No.22396203

>>22395729
The far right are just accelerationists. No feasible plan or vision. Just whining

>> No.22396214

>>22396198
It wouldn't since private property would be abolished and the means of production would be held in common

>> No.22396222

>>22396191
Yes, my grandparents were ranchers and we literally just moved my grandma into the rest home. That said, in the usa you can buy 20 acres for like $150k

>> No.22396225

>>22396198
Chink supremacism leads the 21st century tho

>> No.22396231

>>22396214
But private property is abolished.

>> No.22396232

>>22396203
>accelerationism
>whining
But these are not the same. RETVRNers are the ones whining

>> No.22396234

>>22396214
>private property would be abolished
*in theory
you are a sincere poster, so - it may sound basic but have you read animal farm

>> No.22396236

>>22396234
Yeah and it doesn't disprove class conflict

>> No.22396239

>>22396225
Calm your tits Wong.

>> No.22396244

>>22396236
Oh, I certainly agree with you there. The issue is the implementation of the property division when rulers are established

>> No.22396247

>>22396239
I didnt say it as a good thing. Just and observation
Also global south nationalism

>> No.22396251

>>22396244
Why would there be property division in a society where property as a concept doesn't exist

>> No.22396252

>>22396203
the inertia of the system is insurmountable, there's no immovable object you can place in front of it at your own will, you can only play political Aikido, let it bring things to their logical conclusions, you are so ridiculously outgunned, outmanned and outwitted by the system your only ally is thermodynamics
the irony to me is not seeing what is truly idealistic and completely pants on head delusional is thinking you can just stop this spiral and go back by just finding that super duper custom designed correct political solution
politics will only return on the table when the moneyed supreme overlords crash it like dumb retards, they too are subject to hybris and regression to the mean

>> No.22396253

>>22396214
literally just a string of buzzwords

>> No.22396254

>>22396251
Did you not get the whole some are more equal than others thing.

>> No.22396256

>>22396253
>basic english=buzzwords

>> No.22396260

>>22396252
>the irony to me is not seeing what is truly idealistic and completely pants on head delusional is thinking you can just stop this spiral and go back by just finding that super duper custom designed correct political solution
well it's definitely not by making pornography unless you're a grifter like Costin

>> No.22396264

>>22396254
That has nothing to do with communism, under capitalism, productive forces are used to make capital - with the satisfaction of social needs being either a minor aside or something anathema to that priority objective.

Under communism, they're used to satisfy human social needs, and that's it. Whether someone is "more equal" doesn't come into the equation at all

>> No.22396265

>>22396251
Property will always exist you absolute fucking retard

>> No.22396274

>>22396166
Lmao digits. Anyway, you are not bright, 'gay' has been intentionally legitimated to take off the forbidden steam out of it. The bomb has been defused. So, if you're still making attempts at 'raping men' unto becoming 'gay', ie the bottom man, you're spreading sickness.

>> No.22396276

>>22396265
Private property is just a social relation, it has no presence in the material world, trees and farmland do not grow with the inherent fact that they "belong" to someone. It is just a consequence of productive logic, a logic that will be changed when people get sick of it.

>> No.22396277

>>22396264
oh, okay, I get you're a theory person or whatever
I just wanted to see how you would explain the animal farm and that works
and it really is a pretty interesting system on paper - it just doesn't work in the real world due to psychological flaws of people IMO

>> No.22396283

>>22396276
I will shoot you in your fucking head if you try to take something that is mine. The only reason the feds can do it is they have more guns than I do.

>> No.22396285

>>22396276
Nice communism. Collective soul evangelism.

>> No.22396286

>>22395703
Did Bronze Age Mindset actually get popular against all odds? Or did BAP know the right people?
I would love to publish some of my own political ramblings that run counter to BAP's and try to carve out a similar following, but I doubt anybody would read it.

>> No.22396291

>>22396286
>Or did BAP know the right people?
he's shilled constantly even on here
and he's a trust fund jewish guy who went to yale lmao

>> No.22396294

>>22396276
You are american aren't you

>> No.22396300

>>22396286
Shilling, although his book hasn't actually gotten big
But it's not terrible either.

>> No.22396302

>>22396277
>it just doesn't work in the real world due to psychological flaws of people
That's is completely meaningless, capital, property, value are all just social relations, there is nothing inherent about it in nature or psychology. Workers spend the vast majority of their energy on a system organised around ensuring that amazon maintains a 3% average return because that is how production is organised, not because amazon was a primordial god who swam in the void before time even existed.
>>22396294
No i'm not

>> No.22396304

>>22396286
He had a large-ish following on Twitter and was one of the earliest ebook fags, before every second- and third-rate copycat had their own "mindset" book.

>> No.22396331

>>22396302
>No i'm not
Source?

>> No.22396335

>>22396331
My giant un-american cock

>> No.22396337

>>22396335
Ok homo

>> No.22396346

One can read BAM, find some parts worthwhile, and discard the rest as is normally done with writing. It’s not all or nothing.

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>>22396346
>TAKE NO HEROES
>ONLY INSPIRATION

>> No.22396410

I like reading bap when he trashes communist nihilists

>> No.22396414

>>22395703
fake accent
fake guy

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>>22395758
Isreal and homosexuality are unironically right-wing I don't see what the issue is?

>> No.22396487

>>22396479
t. all mainstream conservatives in the USA. great post!

>> No.22396490

>>22395703
OH THE SOUND THEY MUST HAVE HEARD IN THE DISTANCE
A WILDERNESS OF A SOUND A MOVEMENT
REPATINGING ITS PATTERN ACROSS THE MOUNTAINSIDE

there is a sea battle, that was your motive

>> No.22396501

>>22396487
wow conservatards and liberals both breath air i guess horseshoe theory is true

>> No.22396507

>>22396501
I was agreeing with you and you're sperging out?

>> No.22396513

>>22396507
i don't really consider mainstream conservatives in the USA to be right-wing

>> No.22396517

>>22396513
Well we do support Israel a nation state that is stabilizing the Levant which is right wing yes?

>> No.22396530

>>22395703
Didn't he out himself as Jewish recently? It explained quite a few oddities with his (((nationalist))) perspectives

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>>22396517

>> No.22396539

>>22396534
Well, there's always room for the sets to combine.

>> No.22396543

>>22396530
He said in 2014-2015 he's jewish (he capitalized the J) too.
More recently he tried to normalize zionism among WN circles
>>I believe that Zionists of Hazony’s bent, those of the Netanyahu faction, don’t really care what politics exist in the West as long as they promote a frame of mind favorable to Israel. In practice, Hazony would promote open white nationalism if he thought he could, or whatever—anarchosyndicalism, constitutional monarchism, distributism, ice cream nationalism, and so on. It doesn’t matter. Maybe they liked my book too, who knows? People who think Hazony is an existential antagonist who wants to negate the ethnic basis of America as such are as wrong as those who think he has any fundamental interest in America’s welfare. He’s fundamentally indifferent. But I do think white nationalism has been covertly promoted by this faction online since 2015. I can’t prove it but for those who have been trolling since that time, it’s been obvious. Israeli nationalism and white nationalism are the same thing.

>> No.22396556

>>22396534
Also any throwaway thoughts on how mainstream conservative thought in the US would be better improved in your opinion?

>> No.22396571

>>22396543
one could certainly try to use zionism for the advantage of western interests, try to outjew the jew at its own game
pragmatically opposing zionism doesn't help you much, using it as a weapon against internationalist/liberal jews works perhaps better
that is, "let's be an apartheid ethnostate like our good ally Israel" and call antisemite anyone who disagrees

>> No.22396584

>>22396571
>that is, "let's be an apartheid ethnostate like our good ally Israel" and call antisemite anyone who disagrees
ah yes because this will definitely happen kek

>> No.22396585

>>22396556
dude how many different ways do i have to say conservative ≠ right-wing. who gives a shit about those artless mediocre goons?

>> No.22396587

>>22396585
Fair.

>> No.22396599

>>22396584
whereas if you openly oppose zionism you achieve.....?
at least it's kek worthy and short circuits your average niggercattle westerner who is trained to panic hearing the antis- word

>> No.22396615

>>22396599
That gives me the trolling idea of America just annexing Israel it's pretty much a protectorate already
just go full judeo christian ethno state. Your thoughts?

>> No.22396616

>>22395758
link it or didn't happen

>> No.22396640

>>22396599
It‘s strange that maintaining your integrity is such a foreign concept to you that you skip right beyond it as an advantage, but rather conceive of it as a detour on your way to the next fix of winning some imaginary slapfight by licking the feet of the subhumans responsible for the state of things.

>> No.22396641

>>22396274
Youre gay bro and you have aids

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>>22395758
He couldn't take the heat.

>> No.22396646

>>22396615
lol if you could somehow put it into the right terms to the whole evangelical crowd I bet you could use their philosemitism into this direction

>> No.22396650

>>22396646
Based

>> No.22396655

>>22396599
Most westerners think israel is bad for sterilizing heckin niggerinos but they simply don't want to say anything against jews. you are underestimating the amount of doublethink westoids can engage in if you try to be a philosemite and copy israel's based aspects

>> No.22396659

>>22396640
you can choose to use or not use the poison of the enemy against the enemy itself, your choice, don't complain though if your "integrity" whatever that is doesn't lead you anywhere, good luck

>> No.22396691

>>22396584
kek this
"let's be an apartheid ethnostate like our good ally Israel" would never work because of the Urban Youths demand they always be the center of attention

>> No.22396692

>>22396659
The contradictions of liberalism have been known and swept aside for decades. Likewise a culture of juvenile online counterargument has been the right‘s modus operandi for ten years and left it in shambles and humiliation.

These are things which have been demonstrated to lead nowhere, while direct and substantive assertion of the problem remains largely untried.

>> No.22396734

>>22396692
>Likewise a culture of juvenile online counterargument has been the right‘s modus operandi for ten years and left it in shambles and humiliation.
This is far better than censorship. Rather than give people an opportunity to privately air out their grievances in a close-knit group and make actionable plans to address them, just make them vent and spend their rage in an online circlejerk shitpost circus with people they'll never meet. And everyone falls for it like lemmings. Its all a waste of time.

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>>22396734
>>22396692
>just make them vent and spend their rage in an online circlejerk shitpost circus with people they'll never meet
meme magic literally got Trump elected though

>> No.22396764

>>22396747
Spics got trump elected

>> No.22396768

>>22396764
okay it wasn't meme magic then hispanics lined up for racist wall man
is this a joke

>> No.22396774

>>22396747
>Circlejerk shitposting got a reality TV show circusclown LARPer elected
This just proves my point. The right chose a leader who is just like them in everyway.

>> No.22396776

>>22396768
>trump
>racist
Trump is a globalist zionist, anon. He simply doesn't like illegal immigration
He has no issue with legal immigration

>> No.22396780

>>22396774
Tbqh drumpf was better for americans than biden or onibabama.
This was bad though since it help trannymerica survive a bit longer

>> No.22396783

>>22396774
What was the better option? Jeb?
Trump's mistake was trusting Paul Ryan and throwing out Bannon who was the actual brains of the MAGA movement because he was a boomer clown.

>> No.22396809

Offtopic but BAP caters primarily to an anglo-german audience. Any other people following him such as Greeks (chickenhearts69), meds in general or various Spics are basically cucking themselves.

>> No.22396813

>>22396780
>trannymerica
>fagisreal
what did they mean by this

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>>22396809
>BAP caters primarily to an anglo-german audience
>BAP is a romanian jew
KEK

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>>22396692
>while direct and substantive assertion of the problem remains largely untried.
is this bizarro /lit/? I can't believe what I just read

>> No.22396851

>>22396836
It's called grifting anon
What kind of audience do you think Loomer has?

>> No.22396858

>>22396841
Truly productive shitposting to keep Israel afloat has never been tried, brother

>> No.22396889

>>22396641
That must be the le based cosmos speaking from within you.

>> No.22396917

>>22396783
His problem was allowing any swamp creatures into his administration at all whatsoever. He should have just brought in friends from business and not any greenway demons at all. He was a fool.

>> No.22396943

>>22396917
>He should have just brought in jews and zionists from business

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>>22396943
>retarded shills come back as soon as the other shill thread gets deleted
like pottery

>> No.22396956

>>22396951
you are completely retarded

>> No.22396964

>>22396956
and u seem mad.
u mad?

>> No.22396968

>>22396964
utterly braindead

>> No.22396970

>>22396968
u seem mad.
u mad?

>> No.22396986

>>22396747
Exactly: the far right vested their energy in president shitpost just to get betrayed on effectively every single promise while four years were spent on additional zionism and letting blacks out of prison.

When enough people turned their backs on him, the loyalists inherited the brand built on the effort of a larger coalition to create a years-long grift by and for senile boomers, systematically ignoring the deep faults in this country to play a new round of red team/blue team.

I like many was lured into the trap in 2016 and intend for damn sure to show the development and maturity to not get taken in by a huckster again, much less for a shallow purpose like "owning the libtards!!!"

>> No.22397005

>>22396986
Ok? Obviously, in retrospect you know how things will turn out and I don't support Trump for 2024 anyway.

In 2016 he was the most goated candidate by a long shot, and it wasn't even close

>> No.22397047

>>22396986
The only way to own the libtards is to accelerate

>> No.22397051

>>22397047
by your logic we should join antifa then.

>> No.22397071

>>22397051
Antifa doesn't have any power. Better start an NGO and engage in migrant trafficking

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>>22397071

>> No.22397095
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>>22397005
If you‘re looking for the next politician to make petty little dogwhistles and implicitly racial promises so that you can put your faith in that, with the minor addendum that it won‘t be Trump, then you haven‘t learned your lesson.

>> No.22397104

>>22397095
phone poster shoo shoo

>> No.22397111

>>22395703
I've seen him shilling cigars, I work in a cigar shop and he always shills for cheap plasencia ones kek

>> No.22397112

>>22396642
Hahahah that
>cool, midsummer umbrage
Was my favorite thing to come out of a bap thread

>> No.22397128

>>22397071
>Better start an NGO and engage in migrant trafficking
Big words and chest puffing is all nu-r*ghtoids are ever good for. You are not real men and you completely lack the courage to get out in the real world and get things done. You are the actual bugmen, and you will be buried in the graveyard of history for that.

>> No.22397140 [DELETED] 

>>22397128
>You are not real men
okay tranny

>> No.22397152

>>22397128
What does this have to do with my business plan tho

>> No.22397186

>>22397152
Your "business plan" is larping on the internet as a Bond villain as a cope for your miserable existence.

>> No.22397273

>larping on the internet as a Bond villain
I don't know what this means
>as a cope for your miserable existence.
I don't know what this means

>> No.22397302

>>22396479
t. bap

>> No.22397343

>>22397071
Based
>>22397186
What's "bond villain" about smuggling thirdies? It's a profitable thing in greece and basically legal too, and germoney pays for it

>> No.22397361

>>22397273
yeah, you don't know much about anything

>> No.22397377

>>22397361
I literally have no idea what you're talking about fucktard. There are several NGOs trafficking migrants through American borders and all are profitable. You can look up all the ones that advocate for open borders and fill in paperwork for migrants.

>> No.22397383

I want to live in a society of law-abiding, productive, orderly and industrious people.

>> No.22397388

>>22397383
Why do you want to live in China?

>> No.22397631

>>22397383
you are gay

>> No.22397657
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>>22395803
>Race is utter bullshit
You do realise historical chuddy sociological notions of race have been pretty conclusively vindicated scientifically in the last 5 years right? You "people" (I mean wordcel leftoids not niggers) are not ready.

>> No.22397659

>>22397383
You must be fun at parties.

>> No.22397663

>>22397383
k, but those don't seem to last long, it's always the same shit, those very people rise as predators as a consequence of destroying natural competition, get comfortable, let predators regroup, get eaten as preys, rinse and repeat

>> No.22397674

>>22397657
>humans not being the exactly the same is the reason why I'm not getting laid

>> No.22397682

>>22397674
Touché

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>>22397657
Sicilians really were eggplants all along...

>> No.22397711

>>22397657
A. The existence of genetics being real and ethnic groups correlating (often) with DNA has been vindicated. "Race" depends on the definition it takes, and is not used in studies as a term.
B. Tree models are garbage, if you have read any aDNA study in the past 10 years you'd know how inaccurate this is.

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>>22397711
There are an uncountable number of things that are "dependent on definition," but if I claimed they don't exist you'd blow your lid. You are no different than a tranny in truth. It doesn't matter what we call race nominally, it pertains to an a priori biological reality, and all the sensible conclusions drawn from it on any level are preposterous to a normalfag, who is not much different than a cult member. The effects of race, which is really subspecies, on a genomic level are more grave than we would ever have assumed in any sociocultural-based framework.
>B. Tree models are garbage, if you have read any aDNA study in the past 10 years you'd know how inaccurate this is.
I do. Can't seem to find it right now. If you're not a total newfag you've probably seen it posted at some point. Just dyor.

>> No.22397778

>>22397711
pic unrelated

>> No.22397786

>>22395703
the best part is when you make him smoke

>> No.22397790

>>22397775
I'm NTA you fucking deranged mongoloid
>The effects of race, which is really subspecies
That was clear since Cavalli-Sforza (Reich's mentor btw). But ethnic group differences are more interesting imo, with subspecies you've got the three main ones (west eurasian east eurasian subsaharan african) and a couple inbetween like somalis.
Admitting this is true won't change anything for shitlibs btw
>yes well race is real BUT we should not let it divide us you fucking racist
Back to square one, no subspecies-conscious policies implemented.

>> No.22397806

>>22395729
Liberalism has buck broken all of you. Don’t forget your place you fucking little pussies. We WILL bomb fascists and destabilize terrorists, and you will cope and type more meaningless words online.

>> No.22397810

BAP is a trick on niggers

>> No.22397825

>>22397790
>But ethnic group differences are more interesting imo
Interesting. Any examples that interest you?
>Admitting this is true won't change anything for shitlibs btw
>>yes well race is real BUT we should not let it divide us you fucking racist
>Back to square one, no subspecies-conscious policies implemented.
Yeah well I'm just a /scilit/ autist, I don't know enough about realpolitik to propose solutions. Just weary of 98 IQ bullshit like "race isn't real."

>> No.22397845

>>22397825
Just generally studying the ancestral sources for modern populations. Anatolian farmers, Iranian farmers and Caucasus hunter gatherers, Western hunter gatherers, Eastern hunter gatherers, Nganasan siberians, Yamnaya pastoralists, Natufians, etc
North/south euro gap, north africa/levant gap, looking at ancient dna of populations like mycenaeans, bell beakers, ancestors of japs in kofun period and other stuff
There's plenty

>> No.22398104

>>22395703
I like BAP but rugged individualism is a huge factor in societal decay and more of it won't fix anything, his philosophy boils down to like only a few million people exist and they're all Nordic body builders, not the most feasible thing

>> No.22398133

>>22398104
Nordics are all genetically predisposed to be race communists anyway

>> No.22398145

>>22398104
>>22398133
Why do Nordic women love black dick so much?

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>>22395803
This thinking is the problem. Blood & Soil mentality is the only thing capable of preserving Europe, anybody who gainsay it should be shot.

The Right need to wake up and embrace Ethno-Fascism of some form.

>> No.22398561

>>22397657
Race isn’t real but ancestry is. Meaning people from a specific geographical area can have similar traits, but to say “white people” all share the traits makes no sense as there’s so much genetic variation within a “race” because race is a social thing, not a biological thing. It's not real it's made up.

To say attribute characteristics to a particular race flies against the available evidence especially how that we can look at genetics in detail.

>> No.22398568 [DELETED] 

>>22398561
there are two races: those with neanderthal admixture and those without

>> No.22399593

>>22398145
Could be genetic lack of preference for in-groups. Nords lived in fragmented small villages and would frequently steal women from nearby villages and there's also the island thing where nordic men stole britbong women so this might have something to do with it

>> No.22399597

>>22398561
Depends on the definition of race. It's not a term used in a genetics so its up to interpretation most of the time

>> No.22399600

>>22399597
Which only serves to show how bullshit it is, it has zero basis in reality and is just a social construction

>> No.22399609

>>22399600
we'll agree to disagree friend

>> No.22399613

>>22399609
No, you either accept a fact or become wilfully ignorant, Haplogroups are real, just as genetics is a real science. What isn't real is the concept of race that we ascribe to those genetic differences.

>> No.22399619

>>22399613
this is a reverse shill thread for the bronze age shill

>> No.22399620

>>22399619
I don't care about ecelebs

>> No.22399628

>>22395703
Goy Age Mindset by Bronze Age Jew

>> No.22399696

>>22398561
>to say “white people” all share the traits makes no sense
That's right, because "white people" are not a race.

>> No.22399703

>>22399696
Yes because "race" is not a real thing

>> No.22399706

>>22395703
the second to last, or if there were two

>> No.22399709

>>22399703
Look up Lewontin fallacy. Don't be stupid. Also kill this stupid thread.

>> No.22399724

>>22397674
>strawman

>> No.22399753

>>22395703
>>22395703
BAP is a Twitter grifter, an odious racist despite being jewish, controlled opposition with strong connections to the deep state, and an astroturfing faggot. Go Sea Pooples!

>> No.22399762

>>22399709
The Lewontin fallacy is retarded, there is greater genetic diversity within rottweilers than between rottweilers and poodles: does this mean that rottweilers and poodles are the same breed?

>> No.22399766

>>22399762
no wonder why they call you people useful idiots

>> No.22399769

>>22399766
thanks for saying nothing retard

>> No.22399781

>>22395703
No refunds goy

>> No.22399801

>>22395703
SEE POOPLE THIS IS YOUR CALL

>> No.22399868

>>22399600
Again, depends on the definition. The definition of race as human race (species) is grounded in reality and genetics, for example. So is the definition of race as an ethnic group.

>> No.22399870

>>22399753
>an odious racist despite being jewish
there's no despite here. All jews are insanely racist

>> No.22399872

>>22399868
(But arbitrary definition such as "black", "brown" etc aren't grounded on anything)

>> No.22399875

>>22399870
Hey costin

>> No.22399876

>>22399868
There is race as in THE human race, but there are no seperate “races”, black people, brown people, white people are all arbitrary groupings that have zero basis in biology and are completely socially constructed.

>> No.22399886

>>22399876
classic mutt cope. you will never belong anywhere.

>> No.22399890

>>22399886
>t. shetl dweller

>> No.22399893

>>22399886
Thanks for saying nothing retard

>> No.22399897

>>22395703
what's the matter?

>> No.22399899

>>22399762
Nice reading comprehension retard.

>> No.22399902

>>22399868
you are talking with hermeneutically castrated zombies who would tell you you can't distinguish red from blue if you trained them for about few hours, these animals can be stopped from conceptualizing things if it's the prosocial stance to have, don't bother
when a normobug tells you something is "soshul construk" they are effectively saying "i'm not socially allowed to conceptualize this thing"

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>>22399902
>you are talking with hermeneutically castrated zombies

>> No.22399908

>>22399876
Nigger did you miss that "race" does not have a fixed meaning like "copper" does? Until it does some of its uses are real and some are not. That's my point

>> No.22399916

>>22399908
Thanks for agreeing with me that "race" is a completely subjective social construction than can be twisted to mean whatever the fuck you want at any given time, you can go back to sleep now

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>>22399893
you're welcome. btw, you're the one who's been repeating the same bits of ideologically loaded nothings and high school tier deconstructionist strawmen throughout this whole thread, you seething rootless muttnugget. sucks to be you.

>> No.22399930

>>22399925
"race" is quite literally the pinnacle of ideologically loaded nothing and the fact that so many people here are emotionally reacting to being told that it doesn't exist just proves how inane it is

>> No.22399941

>>22399930
>literally "n-no YOU" - the post
you're the one who's evidently seething all over the place like your name was samantha.

>> No.22399944

>>22399941
All i've said is facts, i'm not the one posting memes and getting emotional

>> No.22399947

>>22399944
>i'm not getting emotional
ok sammie

>> No.22399953

>>22399947
Is that some memefag reference i'm not online enough to get?

>> No.22400042

>>22399916
You are wrong. Race is a word that has some definitions that are real and some that are not (ie constructs). The human species is not a social construction for example

>> No.22400057

>>22400042
Ok but i'm not calling the existence of the human race fake i'm calling the arbitrary groupings of races as fake

>> No.22400059

>>22399876
The issue with saying that, is that people jump on the 'different ethnicities/cultures' and try and beat you to death with it.

>> No.22400073

>>22400059
Most of the time it's retards bringing up racialized cultural practices and then immediately conflating that with “race” as a biological category

>> No.22400078

>>22400073
it's a very Ameri-centric take and its weird seeing Euros do it. Tell a Russian and a Pole they're the same race and you'll probably start a flame war.

>> No.22400388

>>22395703
My main issue with BAP is that he has no understanding of genetics or archaeology and neither do his followers. He recommended Drews who has been refuted by recent archaeology and genetics, and needless to say anything about his Gobineau muh aryans LARP, to the point of thinking the couple dozen genes for eye and hair color determine actual DNA and origins. It's like reading Apricity in 2009 larping as "nordic roman emperors" kek

BAP obviously doesn't care, he's a jewish grifter with brown hair and green (50% brown genetically) eyes and beige skin. But over time this delegitimizes the entire movement and gives opportunity to everyone who dislikes them to dunk on them by just posting aDNA papers
Maybe it's a plot to make the left embrace race realism in an effort to debunk le ebil nazis kek.
>see, we can see that you are indeed genetically inferior. DNA is real, group differences are real, and you belong to a loser group. Get owned nazi
Maybe David Reich sponsors him

>> No.22400397

>>22400057
In this case yes we agree

>> No.22400411

>>22400388
They also act like leftards and ignore inconvenient data. Yamnaya had west asian ancestry, had brown hair, eyes and skin, and high yamnaya dna % correlates with lack of civilization and anything noteworthy. Modern north euros are less than 50% yamnaya and don't even descend from them paternally (Z2103 R1b lineage). And all of them have additional asian dna which they pretend doesn't exist kek

>> No.22400893

>>22396214
>since private property would be abolished
how will you enforce this rule?

>means of production would be held in common
would be held in common? who's going to organize that system?

>> No.22400921

>>22400893
>how will you enforce this rule?
through proletarian revolution which sees the working class seize all means of production, as well as the corresponding products, and thereby overcome the economy based on the exchange of labour products. Since the existence of classes is based on this very economy, the working class through this act abolishes all classes, including itself.
>would be held in common? who's going to organize that system?
Society

>> No.22400930

>>22396809
Kind of funny he makes his cash out of essentially giving waspoids an undeserved ego-boost so they can get through their silicon valley/government/finance/etc wagie jobs without killing thrmselves because rajeesh at HR hired another 40 indian villagers.

Also, BAP is the result of a jew getting through the ordeal and sucking blonde/blue eyed cock forever.Still a sad alternative.

>> No.22401110

>>22400921
so use force to take the means of production, once completed form a society that will organize and manage the means of production, so that every member in this society owns nothing (because property doesn't exist); but now the means of production is shared/used so righteously that there are not more problems in life for the people living in this society?

>> No.22401120

>>22401110
correction:
>that there are no more problems

>> No.22401126

>>22401110
The only certainty is that production is used according to social need (which implies the end of property, commodities, money etc), anything else is speculation

>> No.22401165

>>22401126
>used according to social need
I feel like that a society formed this way has to be moderate in size. if there are multiple cultures in this society, it just seems very unlikely that all types of cultures can have all of their social needs accounted for at all times under this rule. but if it's just a small community of people (like a few hundred) I can see this working.

>> No.22401169

>>22401165
Commune is literally in the name

>> No.22401179

>>22401169
so you want a bunch of small communes of people that operate this way, rather than nations?

>> No.22401186

>>22401179
It's not about what i want it's about where society is heading, and yeah nations would not exist.