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[Anonymous No.22392870]

Let's see the marxists cope with this one.

[Anonymous No.22392880]

I will learn world history, greek mytology, and Goethe's Faust before dive into Spengler's Decline of the West. Wish me luck, bros.

[Anonymous No.22392885]

[Anonymous No.22392893]

>>22392885
Interesting post anon care to elaborate on it? Not quite sure I understand what's happening here.

[Anonymous No.22392903]

>>22392880
Good luck anon.

[Jon Kolner No.22392905]

>>22392870
Funny that Christianity is Platonism for the masses and also it is Bolshevism. Maybe it is the secondhand parables of a desert preacher whom people read far too deeply into and apply whatever they want onto.

[Anonymous No.22393181]

>>22392870
Spengler stuff always goes over better on /Pol/.

[Anonymous No.22393191]

>>22392885
Mine is like half the size, thanks for ruining my evening asshole

[Anonymous No.22393193]

>>22392870
Why would Breaking Bad Hank say this

[Anonymous No.22393211]

>>22392885
Yeah, marxists usually cope by sucking cock

[Anonymous No.22393281]

>>22392870
>christcuckery
obey your master
>bolshevism
kill them all

[Anonymous No.22393307]

>>22393281
>marxist is a retard
No surprise there

[Anonymous No.22393327]

>>22393211
>>22393307
Someone is seething

[Anonymous No.22393338]

>>22393193
He told Siri to search for sex gifs but mispoke

[Anonymous No.22393343]

>>22392870
Why would we cope? Marx literally said this.

[Anonymous No.22393345]

>>22392870
'Tis true, but how if at all does it btfo Marxsim?

[Anonymous No.22393349]

>>22393281
>christcuckery
obey your master
>bolshevism
obey your (((master)))

[Anonymous No.22393392]

>>22393349
When the (((master))) here is from the same tribe in both instances it’s more of a pick your poison kind of deal.

[Anonymous No.22393401]

>>22392870
no matter, spirit can't override natural history

[Anonymous No.22393423]

>>22393349
>>bolshevism
>obey your (((master)))
cry more tranny bitch

[Anonymous No.22393442]

>>22393423
>tranny bitch
That is cultural appropriation, chud.

[Anonymous No.22393552]

>>22393442
>That is cultural appropriation

[Anonymous No.22393730]

>>22392870
christian theology is the grandmother of almost all ideologies in the west

[Anonymous No.22393989]

>>22392880
Can't you just read it, then do those things, then read it again?

[Anonymous No.22394084]

>>22392870
>jesus tells people to willingly be nice and charitable to poors and avoid materialism and superficial desires
>wtf this is literally my hyper-materialistic violent revolutionary ideology

this is such a fucking stupid low iq take, its literally "omg being nice to poor people? thats literally communism!

i cant believe i almost took this guy seriously as a thinker and picked up his books at one point. this is basically a generic proto-directionbrain take passing its self as intellectualism

[Anonymous No.22394357]

>>22394084
can't tell if this is bait or not

[Anonymous No.22394370]

>>22393730
Not mine

[Anonymous No.22394374]

>>22394084
kek and based
>hierarchical religion based on not disturbing what is Caesar's
>BRO THATS COMMUNISM

[Anonymous No.22394391]

>>22392870
ok

[Anonymous No.22394395]

>>22392905
If Christianity is Platonism for the masses them Communism is hegelianism for the masses

[Anonymous No.22394397]

>>22394395
>Communism is hegelianism
yes and its not really disputed t bh desu
both trash

[Anonymous No.22394418]

>>22394374
>christianity: the rich are vile, greedy and nigger-tier materialistic and destructive people with no values who are damning their soul, dont be like them

>communism: the rich are vile, greedy and nigger-tier materialistic and destructive people with no values who are damning their soul (which doesnt exist) and you as a working person need to learn to be exactly like them, emulate them in every way, be the most materialistic gutter piece of shit you can be and shed any semblance of higher non-materialist values and identity so that you can secure more wealth for yourself


>wtf these are literally the same thing!

[Anonymous No.22394420]

>>22394357
cope

[Anonymous No.22394422]

>>22394418
Cool strawman retard
curious you didn't address the whole Caesar part, and I don't know, about 10% of the New Testament being about not rebelling against your kings

MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE A PLEB WHO HASN'T EVEN READ THE NEW TESTAMENT KEK

[Anonymous No.22394427]

>>22394422
im literally agreeing with you. i guess i should have formatted my post better

[Anonymous No.22394430]

>>22394418
communism is just a materialist ideology. same as capitalism
good post

[Jon Kolner No.22394431]

>>22394395
Marx was literally a Young Hegelian. The thing with Christianity is they like to call it Platonism when it is a Jewish cult centered around a dead martyr which is tangentially at best influenced by later platonist scholars such as Philo and is only vaguely similar to Plato.

[Anonymous No.22394434]

>>22394431
>Jewish cult centered around a dead martyr

[Jon Kolner No.22394438]

>>22394395
There isn't very much to Christianity because it is so vague and the lessons Christ taught are similar to lots of other, more complex philosophies in which the writers elucidated much more clearly. The fact that people compare it to such completely contradictory ideologies as Platonism AND Bolshevism should tell you a lot.

[Anonymous No.22394440]

>>22394438
>There isn't very much to Christianity because it is so vague

[Jon Kolner No.22394444]

>>22394440
This is my actual face. I am a graduate of both the University of Florence and the university of Munich. I have several books on Plato arguing against dogmatic Neoplatonists and in favor of a more liberal reading of the aporia dialogues which I have authored anonymously.

[Anonymous No.22394447]

>>22394444
keked and checked
you should put one of your quotes on a professional photo... nonironically

[Anonymous No.22394473]

>>22394438
>should tell you a lot.

all it really tells you is that people love to talk shit about topics that they dont actually know much about. they have vague conceptions of concepts and use that as a basis for starting debates aabout them,

people compare Christianity to communism solely because their vague impression of both concepts involves some vague idea of distributing wealth to poor people, and some kind of anti-rich sentiment, therefore in their mind "its literally the same thing bro!" even though they are wildly different and communist theory consistently drove them to go as far as exterminating Christians every time they got power because christianity was seen as an anti materialist, anti-revolutionary barrier and a conservative institution

both actual leftist LARPers and retarded right wingers seem to have this vague conception of communism as some kind of moral crusade that probably would have made marx facepalm hard

[Anonymous No.22394485]

>>22394473
>people compare Christianity to communism solely because their vague impression of both concepts involves some vague idea of distributing wealth to poor people
absolutely and people don't understand this enough. as you say christianity was seen as an anti materialist, anti-revolutionary barrier and a conservative institution. it's just basic history

[Jon Kolner No.22394486]

>>22394473
>
people compare Christianity to communism solely because their vague impression of both concepts involves some vague idea of distributing wealth to poor people, and some kind of anti-rich sentiment,

But the OP quote of this thread is Oswald Spengler who I am sure you wouldn't consider to be illiterate or mistaken on topics of this nature. ;)

[Jon Kolner No.22394493]

>>22394473
I am being sarcastic because I do not hold Spengler in high regard.

[Anonymous No.22394499]

>>22394473
>people compare Christianity to communism solely because their vague impression of both concepts involves some vague idea of distributing wealth to poor people, and some kind of anti-rich sentiment, therefore in their mind "its literally the same thing bro!"
That's not even the argument. Communism is simply the fourth Abrahamic religion and its entire archetypical structure can be directly associated with Judeo-Christian thought. Slave morality, to put it simply.

>vague conception of communism as some kind of moral crusade
Except it was. Once Lenin was in power he ordered a merciless campaign of terror on the clergy. Soviets were not uncommonly crucifying people, especially as the Red Army was marching towards Germany. Not that different from the Inquisition. A top-down system of ideological control that punishes heresy harshly during the initial phases, and then slowly backs off to become what it is today and in recent history.

>>22394485
The result is the same (and worse), see above.

[Anonymous No.22394501]

>>22394499
>conception of communism as some kind of moral crusade
that's what that guy was literally saying desu

[Anonymous No.22394504]

>>22394499
>That's not even the argument. Communism is simply [my opinion]
The most perfect Strawman I've seen all day.

[Anonymous No.22394520]

>>22394499
>fourth Abrahamic religion and its entire archetypical structure can be directly associated with Judeo-Christian thought. Slave morality, to put it simply.

hahahaha is this a joke? holy shit, do you even have the slightesed idea of what you are talking about dude? this is exactly what i mean when i say thar you fuucking retards love to talk shit about topics you dont even have a basic undersytanding of

communism isnt "christian slave morality", it is literally the polar opposite. literally the entire fucking point, word for word, of marxism is that its about throwing off burdens like christian morality that restrain ones actions and make one docile and inactive, and learning to be ruthless, to fucking kill people if you have to, in order to take what you want and fulfuilo your material intereast, because thats what everuone else it doing. it can be summarised as "its a dog eat dog world and youre just standing around with your head up your ass, time to learn how to bite because thats what everyone else is doing"

the fact that you would even think to compare it to christian morality is fucking hilarious

[Anonymous No.22394535]

>>22394499
they didnt kill christians as part of some moral crusade, they killed Christians because marx literally wrote that christian morality was anti-revolutionary and spirituality had to be eliminated in order for society to move beyond it to a purely materialist state

[Anonymous No.22394545]

>>22392870
>"There is no Marxist dogma!" -- Lenin

[Anonymous No.22394562]

>>22394520
>>22394535
Now these are scholarly posts

[Anonymous No.22395129]

There's no rebuttal, no refutation. Marxisters, I think --- I think it's officially over.

[Anonymous No.22395173]

>>22393343
Marxists are very similar to religitards except they don't even believe in divinity.

[Anonymous No.22395175]

>>22395129
It's been over for over 100 years

Marxtards are subhuman

[Anonymous No.22395202]

>King of France has economic problems. Gets overthrown.
>Tsar has economic problems. Gets overthrown.
>Communist party has economy products. Gets overthrown.
Literally confirms historical materialism. Ideas literally does not matter for the masses.

[Anonymous No.22395220]

>>22392870
the marxists cope by striking

[Anonymous No.22395230]

>>22392870
*sigh*
this is so depressing

[Anonymous No.22395251]

>>22395202
>Historical materialism is true
Yeah, but not in marxian sense otherwise communist society could have been existing universally.

[Anonymous No.22395329]

>>22393552
Meanwhile, in real life, all commietrannies are mentally ill faggots and freaks.

[Anonymous No.22395332]

>>22393552
>Exterminate all homosexuals and fascism will va-A-ACCKKKKKKK!!

[Anonymous No.22396422]

>>22392870
Would they even disagree?

[Anonymous No.22396436]

>>22392870
and what do you think is the origin of conservatism is, genius