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Max Stirner Time.

>> No.22382421
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>> No.22382429

stirner would fucking hate memes lol. they are tyrannizing your mind. people liking stirner because of memes is the same irony as all the faggots and trans liking stirner while simultaneously falling for a social fad.

>> No.22382431

>>22382421
qrd on engels and stirner?

>> No.22382435 [SPOILER] 

Stirner truest form of ancap

>> No.22382464
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>>22382429
>>22382431
Marx in particular hated Stirner because he wasn't a liberal feminist woke homosexual. Tried extremely hard to refute Stirner. He failed of obviously.

>> No.22382759

>>22382419
I am convinced that 75% of Stirner's popularity stems from that drawing of him while the rest from Marx's seething.

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>>22382759
>tfw an Engels drawing has been turned into a Pepe

>> No.22382824

>>22382419
I don't know why there are whole political movements centred around this guy, his blurbs on the "union of egos" is so vague and peripheral

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>>22382824
Stirner was the original ghostbuster

>> No.22382895

>>22382419
Stirner really does btfo everyone

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>>22382431
Basically, Engels liked Stirner until Marx chimped out hard. Then Engels and Marx in Ideology threw in some hardcore anti Stirner chapters which as >>22382464 mentions didn't really work that well

>> No.22383502

>>22382429
>stirner would fucking hate memes lol. they are tyrannizing your mind
On the contrary, memes take something someone want you to believe in and pisses on it for laffs. Then retards take them at face value causing even bigger laffs

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>>22382431

Fuck Engels and Fuck Marx too.

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>>22382419
Sock a stirnertard in his facr
What is he gonna do, appeal to spooks?

>> No.22384603

>>22384595
>fire
>blood
>steel
>primordial truth
Nice words, thoughts, opinions, morality, and philosophy, fucking retard

>> No.22384632

>>22384603
Yeah, I’m a hypocrite, what are you gonna do about it? Appeal to spook of logic?

>> No.22384764

>>22384632
If logic is a spook, why don’t you jump off a building? There is no reason that should imply that youll die
>inb4 words
Either admit logic is real or jump off a building

>> No.22384794

>>22384764
> There is no reason that should imply that youll die
Why should I care if such reason exists?

>> No.22384941

>>22382464
>liberal feminist woke homosexual
Stirner was unironically closer to that than Marx. Did you even read The Ego and Its Own?

>> No.22384944

>>22384941
Yeah you're right anon. I guess Marx didn't hate Stirner.

>> No.22384954

>>22382419
>underaged newfag general

>> No.22384957

>>22382419
you don't get it. he's not going to stop. he's never going to stop.

>> No.22384964

>>22384944
Marx hated Stirner because his ideas were extremely similar to his, but not identical.
Go learn something about leftoid intellectual feuds, nigger.

>> No.22384971

>>22384964
cool headcanon retard

>> No.22385000

>>22384971
>differentiating between a "real" canon and "head" canon
Exposed yourself as a materialist (Marx) instead of an idealist (Stirner).

>> No.22385033

>>22385000
A headcanon is a spook canon
filtered
but checked

>> No.22385476

>>22385033
All canons are spooks, retard.

>> No.22385616

>>22385476
are you ESL? damn bro

>> No.22386218

>>22385000
stirner literally said that heads are haunted

>> No.22386232

>>22385616
ESL projection.

>> No.22386240

>>22386232
AUTISM DETECTOR
BEEP BEEP BEEP

>> No.22386467

Is this the so called "Union of Egoists" that I have heard of?

>> No.22386490

>Law is spook
>Ethics is spook
>Metaphysics is spook
>Science is spook
>Math is spook
Meh. Stirner brings no fun.

>> No.22386514

What if I don't have a "self" now what egoist fags?

t.buddhist

>> No.22386523

>>22382421
lmao, literally the only thing stirner’s life
is known for is being one of engels (many) autism outlets.

how sad.

>> No.22386536

Socrates says pure egoism is bad though

>> No.22386565

>>22383502
Stirner would love memes. Your hate is a spook. Stiner is based and lovepilled.

>> No.22386658

>>22386565
>Everything i hate is spook
Grow up, faggot.

>> No.22386785

>>22382419
Kek. Stirner won.

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Lot's of seething in here.

>> No.22386900

>>22384603
What reality do you live in? Btw landlord wants rent pay

>> No.22388282

>>22382419
Who?

>> No.22388919

>>22382435
I think Hallerian patrimonialism fits better.
https://www.imperiumpress.org/shop/restoration-of-political-science-vol-i/

>Out of the ashes Haller raises a sensible and workable theory-patrimonialism, the personal rule of a strong man, a social state in which private law is the only law. Along the way, he refutes many of our most sacred ideas: popular sovereignty, the social contract, the Hobbesian state of nature, and the delegation of power for national interests, and offers his famous critique of Roman law.

>> No.22388947

>>22386882
kek true

>> No.22390259

>>22388919
>the personal rule of a strong man
nothing to do with ancap and even less to do with max stirner

>> No.22390335

can i be a catholic egoist

>> No.22390343

>>22390335
The two are very contrary desu

>> No.22390347

>>22390335
I would say you could still appreciate Stirner's dunking on idealogues though.

>> No.22390363

>>22390343
is it as contrary as being a anarcho-monarchist or is the gulf even wider?

>>22390347
maybe, i just find the guy really interesting and inspirational in a way

>> No.22390374

>>22390363
>anarcho-monarchist
heh yeah I would say that's an accurate description
Understandable, Stirner was an extremely interesting guy and gets all the right people very mad like Engels and Marx

>> No.22390381

>>22390374
i still dont understand how the nigga hasn't had a single photograph of him

>> No.22390383

>>22388919
Second time I've heard someone bring up Haller in the last two weeks

>> No.22390645

>>22384941
All of those are spooks as they are concepts not real tangible things

>> No.22390649

>>22390381
women hadn't been invented yet to force you to take pictures

Marx, being a proto-woman, took his little cute dating app pictures

>> No.22390656

>be gay do crime - the Philosophy
Really, this is the best the left has? Lol

>> No.22390807

>>22390656
Stirner is beyond left wing and right wing pleb
That's why Marx hated him
sorry you're too illiterate to keep up

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>>22390807
Stirner hates property and hierarchy which makes him a leftist. Also I've only ever known that the people that bring him up tend to be leftists from Twitter. It's safe to say this guy is a leftist

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>>22390856
>Stirner hates property
citation needed.
>Also I've only ever known that the people that bring him up tend to be leftists from Twitter
well, I guess that settles it!

>> No.22390870

>>22390866
Glad we can come to an agreement that stirner is a joke of a thinker...

>> No.22390928

>>22390807
He's a libertarian without NAP, so basically an ancap.

>> No.22391020

>>22390870
:^)

>> No.22391755

>>22386565
>for laffs
>Your hate
Reading is hard, huh?

>> No.22391768

>>22390856
Stirner is always the opposite of what you want
To dogmatist lefties he's muh pronouns, to ditto rightards he's Ayn Rand, because none of them can parse a text of YH logical reasoning, but he makes normies piss themselves and looks cool in that one sketch

>> No.22391775

>>22391768
>O-oh no! You can't just do what you want! Won't someone think of the chill'ren

>> No.22391930

I have yet to see a communist interpret Stirner's egotism genuinely. The spook of communism still haunts them.

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>>22382419
>"Egoism"
>the unconscious has entered the chat

Get BTFO'd, "muh ego" is a huge cope for the fact that we're not at all in control and are as often as not frustrated by that fact

>> No.22392596

People misinterpret this man so often I seriously begin to wonder how many people actually read his book.
You get retards like:
>>22384632
>>22385033
>>22385476
>>22386490
>>22390645
Who don't even know what a fucking spook is and misuse that term profusely. Concept =/= Spook.
And other morons like:
>>22386514
>>22392048
Who think that it's actually about the ego (Self-construct) instead of the generative force behind it.
Read the fucking book.

>> No.22393584

>>22382419
Stirner doesn't even into two Egos, unlikely a errant Schoppy

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>>22393584
t. guy who has never gone beyond a wiki glance of either schop or stirner

>> No.22393697

>>22393684
you're right on Stirner, judging the book by its title

>> No.22393708

>>22390335
If there is one thing Stirner dabs on front to back in the book it's christianity, so no

>>22390856
>Stirner hates property
Read the book, you're so out of your depth you're making a fool out of yourself

>> No.22393752

Looks like something gay pedophiles would read.

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>>22393752
t. literally Karl Marx

>> No.22394917

>>22382429
>stirner would fucking hate memes lol.
U MAD?

>> No.22394966

>>22392596
People go through life forgetting what they really are. To the buddhist or psychoanalyst shedding the false identity of the government-issued ID feels freeing enough that they don't suspect there is a second step of remembering how to create in the void.

>> No.22395334

>>22392596
>Read the fucking book.
This is the answer to every thread on /lit/ tbf

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>>22393752
>Oho! I smell a stinky troon! Did you forget to dial8 or clean ur open wound?

>> No.22395405

>>22394966
checked
that step of remembering how to create in the void - great point

>> No.22395428

>>22388919
In which private law is the only law?
You mean, just the standard roman patron-client relationship without any supreme mediator? Idk, just sounds like another desire to be destroyed by a centralized state all over again

>> No.22395813

>>22393752
True.
I think “Egoism” is just a cope, and an effective one to the extent its an excuse for coomers to spend all day jerking off to weird porn without feeling bad about themselves. Its why a lot of trannies latch on to Stirner as their savior

>> No.22395829

>>22395813
desu hurting yourself over a concept of maleness or femaleness is retarded, and stirner himself mentions the debt and the identification with the body over the soul. Trannies literally did not understand him

>> No.22395836

>>22384595
he will hit back. Stirner chad does not reject violence

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>>22395836
>he will hit back