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Who should I read in relation to Hobbes? I want to overcome his autistic definitions and arguments but I don't know anything about political philosophy.

>> No.22372330
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>>22372135
Something modern and eccentric that will help you see past the antique mindset of Hobbes

>> No.22372483

>>22372330
This looks like art I've seen in bars for millennials with tattoos and nose piercings so I won't be reading it

>> No.22372496

>>22372135
It's great that you're looking to delve into political philosophy and explore perspectives beyond Hobbes. Political philosophy is a captivating realm that encompasses a wide range of thinkers with varying ideas about society, government, and human nature.

1. John Locke:
Locke's work is a natural progression from Hobbes. His "Second Treatise of Government" is a key text that focuses on the concept of the social contract and the limits of governmental authority. Locke's emphasis on individual rights, consent of the governed, and the idea that government exists to protect natural rights provides a contrasting perspective to Hobbes' more authoritarian outlook.

2. Jean-Jacques Rousseau:
Rousseau's "The Social Contract" is another pivotal work that offers an alternative perspective to Hobbes. He emphasizes the idea of the general will and the importance of direct democracy in achieving the common good. Rousseau's emphasis on community and participatory governance provides a counterbalance to Hobbes' focus on strong central authority.

3. Immanuel Kant:
Kant's "Perpetual Peace" and his broader philosophical ideas have also contributed to political philosophy. He argues for the importance of reason, morality, and international cooperation in achieving lasting peace. Kant's emphasis on the moral foundation of politics contrasts with Hobbes' more utilitarian approach.

4. Karl Marx:
Moving into a more critical perspective, Marx's works, such as "The Communist Manifesto" and "Capital," delve into the dynamics of class struggle, capitalism, and the role of the state in maintaining power structures. Marx's analysis provides insights into economic and social aspects of politics that Hobbes doesn't extensively cover.

5. Hannah Arendt:
Arendt's writings, like "The Human Condition" and "The Origins of Totalitarianism," explore the nature of power, authority, and the potential for totalitarianism in modern societies. Her ideas on the public realm, political action, and the dangers of conformism offer a fresh lens through which to view political philosophy.

6. John Stuart Mill:
Mill's "On Liberty" and "Utilitarianism" delve into questions of individual freedom, the role of government in safeguarding individual rights, and the limitations of state interference. His approach balances individual liberties with the collective good, offering a nuanced perspective.

7. Niccolò Machiavelli:
Machiavelli's "The Prince" and "Discourses on Livy" are classic texts that present a more pragmatic and realpolitik approach to politics. His focus on the art of governance, power dynamics, and the relationship between rulers and the ruled contrasts with Hobbes' theoretical approach.

8. Mary Wollstonecraft:
Wollstonecraft's "A Vindication of the Rights of Woman" brings a feminist perspective to political philosophy. She argues for women's rights, education, and participation in the public sphere, contributing to a broader understanding of equality and justice.

>> No.22372524

>>22372483
Cover is by William Blake. No doubt many have this as a tattoo

>> No.22372528

>>22372496
What article was this copypasted from?

>> No.22372545

>>22372528
Nta but those are just basic reccs, doubt copy pasta

>> No.22372600

>>22372528
chatGPT

>> No.22372611

>>22372135
Rousseau btfod Hobbes in 1762.

>> No.22372617

>>22372135
I wourld suggest Machiavelli. He explain the dynamics of power without any philosophical or ethical framework.

>>22372330
Can you explain the name and author?

>>22372496
There was a econom who makes a contract theory with games theory.

>> No.22372649

>>22372496
Wollstonecraft is why men have no private spaces of their own and go without significant others until they die. feminism was an outright mistake.

>> No.22373065
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>>22372496
>taking political points from a woman

>> No.22373073

this is the only book i've read since becoming an atheist that made me look positively on the idea of becoming a christian again for a brief moment

>> No.22373075

>>22373065
i'm in this picture and i don't like it

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>> No.22373341

>>22372617
>Can you explain the name and author?
Against the falsity that calls itself "civilization"
Both the power hungry and the money hungry have dehumanized us for multiple millennia.
It is a perspective on history that Kaczynski would appreciate.

Ancestral roots in Moravian Czechoslovakia, made his home in Michigan, the Author was once friends with John Zerzan, but they parted ways. He preferred to be known a cellist than any other "-ist". Died of a weak heart on the operating table in the early 80s. 40 something years old

>> No.22374311

>>22372330
B-Butters!?

>> No.22374946

>>22372135
>I want to overcome his autistic definitions and arguments but I don't know anything about political philosophy.
All you need to know is that he's an urbanite cuck miserabilist with his demonization of nature garbage.
>>22372496
Hi ChatGPT