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22367226 No.22367226 [Reply] [Original]

Un. Sur. Passed.

>> No.22367240

good thread

>> No.22367254

>>22367226
I like e the part where massa stub is mo shark than massashark hisself

>> No.22367263

>>22367226
White Whale, Holy Grail.

>> No.22367266

>>22367226
Ulysses is better

>> No.22367275

>>22367266
I know I'm too stupid to read Ulysses but I wanna experience something similar. Got any recommendations? I'm not taking recommendations from my irl friends anymore.

>> No.22367300

>>22367226
I preferred the movie if I'm being honest

>> No.22368303

>>22367266
Ulysses has no action. Fancy words but no action. Moby Dick is for real men.

>> No.22368308

>>22367266
It's well written but there's not much more to it. Moby Dick is transcendent

>> No.22368361

>>22367226
Got a copy of Moby Dick a little while ago on a whim at a bookstore. I heard that apparently the Whale biology scenes can be skipped and not much will be lost. I probably won't skip them as Melville put them in for a reason even if they're boring as fuck, but would those that have read it say that they're absolutely necessary for the integrity of the book? I've heard some say that they were included as a early sign of post-modernism in literature. Not sure if that makes sense at all.

>> No.22368374

>>22368361
not necessary at all but the topic he discusses will always be mentioned to some extent in the next chapter. adds a little extra and pulls you more into the world of whaling.

>> No.22368441

Bros I love listening to my moby dick audiobook at work. Helps me escape and I like to imagine I’m on the pequod myself hanging out with dagoo and Starbuck and all the rest. Very comfy. I like how much he mentions philosophy and phenomenology too

>> No.22368465

>>22368361
Don't skip them

>> No.22368658

>>22368308
>Dick is transcendent
what the fuck does that even mean

>> No.22368672
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22368672

>>22367226
got a copy in english a few weeks ago and i'm now at ahab's first appearance on deck. and man, was i confident in my english as a second language up until now, but this book is ruining me. it's great, really, and i understand what most sentences MEAN, but fucking 19th century sailor's english man...

>> No.22368705

>>22368672
I don't feel confident in my english to read an entire "hard" novel, and i feel like some things would be lost in translation. So i stay clear of english literature. In fact i mostly read books in my native language. Thankfully i'm french so i got quite a while before i get bored

>> No.22369038

>>22368658
the dick goes through u

>> No.22369079
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22369079

Surpassed 50 years ago.
>>2236830
Retard

>> No.22369208
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>>22367226
Still one of my favorite books because of how evocative it was. I have a really strong imagination, so it had a real impact on me.

>>22367266
How does Ulysses compare in that respect, and why are you bringing it up?

>>22368361
Finding the whale anatomy chapters boring is peak midwit. They add a lot to the book.

>> No.22369324

>>22368303
You sound like a Marvel fan

>> No.22369344

>>22368361
I wonder if all the people who claim to get filtered by the whale anatomy portion even read to that point because its like 7 pages and no more or less boring than the rest of the novel

>> No.22369347

>>22369208
> and why are you bringing it up?
The title says “unsurpassed”.

>> No.22369747

>>22368303
Bloom may be a cuck, but Moby Dick has some obvious gay undertones.

>> No.22369762

>>22368361
>no interest in cetology
>chooses a book about a whale
You should learn to control your whims.

>> No.22369778

>>22369344
. I know you're being hyperbolic by saying "only 7 pages" but there is actually quite a bit of it. Maybe not quite as much as the complainers claim, but quite a bit. I, like you, actually find the cetology and the nautical information enhances the reading experience. People who complain about that material have the wrong mind set about the novel. It's not a novel you just "read for the story"

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>>22368361
>mfw my edition has a footnote that says that Mellville made lots of mistakes about whale anatomy and they switched that part for a more correct description

>> No.22369794

In this anonymous literature message board thread focused on the book "Moby Dick," participants engage in a range of discussions related to the novel:

>The original post (OP) succinctly states "Un. Sur. Passed."

>A response simply acknowledges the quality of the thread.

>A user highlights a specific aspect of the novel, referring to Massa Stubb's character as being more "shark" than the shark itself.

>Another participant uses the phrase "White Whale, Holy Grail" in response, highlighting the significant role of the white whale in the story's narrative.

>An individual suggests that "Ulysses" is superior to "Moby Dick," prompting debate about the merits of both works and their respective styles.

>A user expresses interest in experiencing something similar to "Ulysses" but seeks recommendations that are not from their real-life friends.

>The thread takes a turn as someone mentions preferring the movie adaptation of "Moby Dick" over the book.

>A passionate argument emerges, with one participant asserting that "Ulysses" lacks action compared to the action-packed "Moby Dick," which they deem more suitable for "real men."

>Responding to the praise for "Ulysses," others highlight the unique qualities of "Moby Dick" and its transcendent nature.

>A member seeks advice on whether the whale biology scenes in "Moby Dick" can be skipped, sparking discussions about the necessity and significance of these passages.

>Recommendations surface that the whale biology scenes contribute to the overall experience, adding depth and immersion.

>A participant shares their personal experience of enjoying the "Moby Dick" audiobook and using it to imagine being on the Pequod.

>Another user expresses the intention to avoid reading novels in English due to language barriers, with a preference for reading books in their native language.

>The thread continues with various responses, including humorous wordplay involving the title "Moby Dick."

>Users discuss the linguistic challenges posed by the book's 19th-century sailor's English and share their own experiences reading the novel.

>The discussion briefly expands to include a comparison of "Ulysses" and "Moby Dick" in terms of their impact and evocative qualities.

>The thread wraps up with a user's remark about the evocative power of "Moby Dick," followed by a comment that draws attention to the "unsurpassed" claim in the thread title.

>Throughout the thread, participants engage in conversations ranging from book comparisons, linguistic difficulties, recommended reading experiences, and the impact of "Moby Dick."

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>>22369794
YOU DIDN'T MENTION MY POST AT ALL YOU FUCKING GLORIFIED SEARCH ENGINE

>> No.22369929

>>22367226
boring

>> No.22371009

>>22368672
i dont think they really talked like that

>> No.22371011

>>22367275
similar how? stream of conscious? try Zone by Mathias Enard, it always takes place over one day. Helps if you know european history and the Iliad

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>>22367263
heh

>> No.22371759

i liked the first chapter but i started getting bored quickly after

>> No.22371801

>>22368361
>would those that have read it say that they're absolutely necessary for the integrity of the book?
I would say they are absolutely necessary for the integrity of the man reading the book.

>> No.22371812

>>22371759
Stick at it bro, chapters further in are even more boring. That being said, it has one of the best endings in literature.

>> No.22372184

>>22367226
this book is peak pseud

>> No.22372215

>>22368361
>I heard that apparently the Whale biology scenes can be skipped and not much will be lost
oh sure, you'll only lose your soul and your gigachad pass but go ahead, you can skip it

>> No.22372439

>>22369747
>obvious gay undertones
>Sailors
Seemed inevitable.

>> No.22372516

>>22371009
Melville should know.

>> No.22372522

>>22369929
>>>/co/

>> No.22372526

>>22371759
Post tits.