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https://bookriot.com/overrated-literary-classics

What does /lit/ think?

>> No.22350330

>>22350316
>Huck Finn is le waycissss, here's a book about a faggot instead
lol

>> No.22350340

>book(((riot)))

>> No.22350349

>>22350316
>The fact that this book is about a grown adult man lusting after a 12-year-old girl should be justification enough for some not to read it, but the general consensus surrounding Lolita’s enduring popularity is that Nabokov’s writing is beautiful; it’s just the premise that’s disturbing. I don’t know about you, but no amount of beautiful prose should be enough to get over a premise as problematic as that of Lolita.

Women can't comprehend anything indeed

>> No.22350352

I really should've taken care of my eyes so wouldn't have to wear glasses and ressemble the freak that wrote this article

>> No.22350353

>>22350316
On The Road will always be a book people struggle to understand and take away the wrong message

>> No.22350354
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22350354

>>22350316
(((jeffrey davies)))

>> No.22350356

let me guess, the classics were all written by white men, and the replacements all have black, female, or gay authors.

>> No.22350357

Ragebait trash that all of you stupid motherfuckers are falling for. Nobody who was going to read Lolita will have their opinion swayed by an article like this

>> No.22350363

>>22350316
>What does /lit/ think?
I think that you are shilling your own shitty article for engagement.

>> No.22350364

>>22350356
Three of the classics are by women, and one of the suggested replacements is by Rilke

>> No.22350369

>>22350357
Yes, this is the ''Left's'' equivalent of ''watch Ben Shapiro totally own these libs''. There is no value in the content - just in the reaction that it garners during interaction with a website with advertising metrics.

>> No.22350376

>>22350316
I read it and i still dont really care.
The world is full of dumb people, each with a hundred dumb opinions, and i dont see why i or anybody else should waste time cultivating emotions about them when there are good books to read.

I will now wipe my ass, go to bed, and read some of William Hope Hodgsons Sargasso sea stories.

>> No.22350384

>OVERRATED CLASSIC #1
>THE AGE OF INNOCENCE BY EDITH WHARTON
>WHAT TO READ INSTEAD:
>THE DAVENPORTS BY KRYSTAL MARQUIS
>OVERRATED CLASSIC #2
>ON THE ROAD BY JACK KEROUAC
>WHAT TO READ INSTEAD:
>THE PEOPLE WE KEEP BY ALLISON LARKIN
>OVERRATED CLASSIC #3
>PRIDE AND PREJUDICE BY JANE AUSTEN
>WHAT TO READ INSTEAD:
>SOFIA KHAN IS NOT OBLIGED BY AYISHA MALIK
>OVERRATED CLASSIC #4
>THE CATCHER IN THE RYE BY J. D. SALINGER
>WHAT TO READ INSTEAD:
>SOLITAIRE BY ALICE OSEMAN
>OVERRATED CLASSIC #5
>THE ADVENTURES OF HUCKLEBERRY FINN BY MARK TWAIN
>WHAT TO READ INSTEAD:
>FUNNY BOY BY SHYAM SELVADURAI
>OVERRATED CLASSIC #6
>LOLITA BY VLADIMIR NABOKOV
>WHAT TO READ INSTEAD:
>MY LAST INNOCENT YEAR BY DAISY ALPERT FLORIN
>OVERRATED CLASSIC #7
>TUESDAYS WITH MORRIE BY MITCH ALBOM
>WHAT TO READ INSTEAD:
>LETTERS TO A YOUNG POET BY RAINER MARIA RILKE
>OVERRATED CLASSIC #8
>LITTLE WOMEN BY LOUISA MAY ALCOTT
>WHAT TO READ INSTEAD:
THE WOMEN OF BREWSTER PLACE BY GLORIA NAYLOR

>> No.22350387

>>22350384
>calling women writers overrated
someone cancel this fucking incel chud

>> No.22350391

>>22350356
Yes

>> No.22350398

>>22350316
Isn’t huckleberry finn the opposite of racist?

>> No.22350406

>>22350384
This is how article discussions are done. If you link back to the source then you drive engagement with their advertising and it reeks of shillmanship.

>> No.22350414

>>22350398
The old guard cannot conform to the new standard.

>> No.22350418

>>22350364
For some reason Letters to a Young Poet has become bery popular in tiktok among women who read YA. Not sure why. Perhaps they like to think the letters were written for them. I doubt any of them can quote any Rilke poem out of their mind though, if they have even read one.

>> No.22350420
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>>22350356
Overrated:
Age of Innocence - white woman
On the Road - white man
Pride and Prejudice - white woman
Catcher in the Rye - jewish man
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - white man
Lolita - white man
Tuesdays with Morrie - jewish man (what the fuck is this book?)
Little Women - white woman

Replacement authors:
black woman (YA fiction)
jewish woman
Indian/Pakistani woman (YA fiction)
white woman (who writes gay YA romances)
sri lankan man (who writes LGBTQ fiction)
jewish woman (who writes about rape)
white man
black woman

>> No.22350421

>>22350354
I dislike the soiboi meme, but holy shit.

>> No.22350425

>>22350316
It's the usual "judging a book by who wrote It" trash list. But, If I can indulge in a little of that myself, honestly Mark Twain doesn't deserve the dicksucking he gets. His stuff just isn't all that good.

>> No.22350427

>>22350421
>I dislike the soiboi meme
Why? It's hilarious. Everyone who I dislike is a soicuck, while I'm a based Chad.

>> No.22350429

>>22350354
Coquetting with introversion and imposter syndrome is nothing short of pathetic and ridiculous. Reminds me of that Orson Welles rant regarding Woody Allen. Good news for Jeffrey Davis, his supposed imposter syndrome is quite warranted; he is one.

>> No.22350431

>ctrl+f problematic
yep

>> No.22350442

>>22350425
He got sucked off by the same kind of person that wrote this article. In 100 years, there will be another Jeffrey Davies calling out 21st century literature for not being progressive enough.

>> No.22350452

>>22350316
>open list
>immediately it shits on fucking Age of Innocence
FILTERED

>> No.22350454

>>22350354
>professional introvert
why did we stop drowning surplus offspring?

>> No.22350460

>>22350418
>haven't even read one
Wait til they read the white man's burden lmao

>> No.22350463

>>22350425
His Joan of Arc book is kino.

>> No.22350474

>>22350316
Why is there so much ragebait posted on /lit/?

>> No.22350487

>>22350474
Because no one here actually reads

>> No.22350498

>>22350474
because if you aren't raging at the current state of literature you're part of the problem.

>> No.22350504

i think there's no way i'm clicking this inflammatory engagement farming shit

>> No.22350506

>>22350498
There are plenty of great novels being written every decade though. If you can't find a single one you like then you obviously aren't a feminist

>> No.22350513

>>22350498
I have read hundreds of books and there are thousands more I want to read. Factoring in rereading, I will never run out of books to read and none of them are contemporary. I couldn’t care less about the current state of the publishing industry

>> No.22350516

>>22350504
Always read through archive site so they don't get their analytics clicks.

>> No.22350522
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22350522

>>22350354
I can't make fun of these people because as ridiculous as they seem to me they are clearly more adept at life.

>> No.22350525

>>22350354
Take every obnoxious trait a human can have and combine it into one. What a colossal faggot lol

>> No.22350528

>>22350506
that's right I'm not a feminist. Neither is 90% of the planet.

>> No.22350541

>>22350513
True

>> No.22350685

>>22350384
>>OVERRATED CLASSIC #7
>>TUESDAYS WITH MORRIE BY MITCH ALBOM
>>WHAT TO READ INSTEAD:
>>LETTERS TO A YOUNG POET BY RAINER MARIA RILKE
This one is a good swap desu. The rest are ass.

>> No.22350694

>>22350506
Great is too big a word

>> No.22350700

>>22350685
I haven't even heard of Tuesdays with Morrie lmao local "classic", I magine?

>> No.22350737
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22350737

>>22350354
Every time.

>> No.22350765

>>22350384
>>OVERRATED CLASSIC #3
>>PRIDE AND PREJUDICE BY JANE AUSTEN
>>WHAT TO READ INSTEAD:
>>SOFIA KHAN IS NOT OBLIGED BY AYISHA MALIK
status: redeemed

>> No.22350779

>>22350316
I support this. There's nothing I love more than walking out of the thrift store with a stack of classics and old hardbacks that I bought for a dollar a piece.

>> No.22350800

>Little Women does remain a classic in its own right for being a story for women by women, but at the end of the day, there are just so many other female-centric narratives written by women that are worthy of the same amount of attention — not to mention narratives about women by women of color that never would have received the same amount of high praise

This faggot degenerate seriously believe we should filter our reading choices by how many minority traits an author fulfills. Next time he will mention that black female authors get too much recognition and that we should read black LGBT female writers, and then he'll bring in obese black lgtb female, and so on.

>> No.22350855

>>22350354
How did americans go from tough frontiersmen to whatever the fuck is this thing?

>> No.22350862

>>22350855
We hist the west coast and therefore the edge of the frontier in the lower 48 states

>> No.22350871

>>22350330
they getting desperate lately.

>> No.22350875

>>22350349
They really just give media journalism jobs to anybody. I feel like understanding that depiction does not entail endorsement is one of the most fundamental things a critic needs to understand.

>> No.22350886

>>22350316
>PRIDE AND PREJUDICE BY JANE AUSTEN

>LOLITA BY VLADIMIR NABOKOV

I will rape this nigger to death.

>> No.22350904

It always amazes me how bold americans are in gambling what little literary heritage they have away for literally nothing. As if they could afford such luxury.

>> No.22350911

>>22350425
Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn books are boys being boys kinds of books. Fun and comfortable reads.

>> No.22350929

Of course they're "overrated", it's the anglo canon; of course read something else for a change, if this is all you read you have no taste of your own and are no better than someone following a "/lit/ starter pack". But the message here, and these alternatives . . . (ellipsis!).

>> No.22350930

>>22350384
>THE ADVENTURES OF HUCKLEBERRY FINN BY MARK TWAIN
Disgustingly soulless, he has no adventerous spirit. I don’t even like Twain that much and I can admit that Huck Finn is very entertaining and deserves its fame.

>> No.22350932

>>22350316
Many "classics" are indeed overrated. I don't agree with the article at all but you shouldn't feel obligated to like a bad book just because critics like it.

>> No.22350933

>>22350886
i bought a very cheap used copy of pride and prejudice i saw for sale
i thought it was going to be about two things i enjoy participating in, pride and prejudice
turns out it's just some 19th century womans cringe fantasy
stopped reading after 20 pages

>> No.22351306

>>22350357
>You're all so dumb for FALLING for le bait. But not ME, I'm smarter than you.
Retard.

>> No.22351398

>>22350855
The refuse of the shtetls being dumped on Ellis Island.

>> No.22351417

>>22350340
>>22350354
He hates Salinger, who was Jewish

>> No.22351428

>>22350354
>Coffee With a Shot of Cynicism

>> No.22351459

>>22350354
Total millennial death

>> No.22351464

>>22350316
>Lolita is le hecking problematic!
>Here's the same book, but easier for my peabrain to understand
Why is it always women or fatherless faggots who have these shitty opinions?

>> No.22351479

>>22350700
>Be me
>Wake up from a night of popper abusing dick suckin'
>Check my emails after lifting a used condom off my laptop
>Oh fuck, that article was due today
>UHHHH
>Google 10 upcoming authors
>Pick the more oppressed sounding names
>Google 10 classics everyone should read
>Write a half-assed opinion of every book I didn't read based on goodreads and comments off amazon
>Finish just in time for my boyfriend's boyfriend to cum on my morning onions latte.

>> No.22351494

>>22350855
We still sparsely have tough frontiersmen, they just weren't born in the cities. Urban bugs are weak willed, both mentally and physically, and are only able to understand subversion.

>> No.22351497

>>22350398
The new orthodoxy is that you cannot depict racism at all because the very thought of it is deeply mentally traumatic to the blessed POCs who need constant coddling and protection. The only exception is if the writer xerself is from the same specific race that is shown being discriminated against.

>> No.22351597

>>22350354
How do I get this job? Like how do I get hired to write shit like this for websites and get paid for it?

>> No.22351628

>>22350354
Why is the world this way.

>> No.22351638

>>22350522
it's no measure of sanity to be well adjusted in a sick society, and so on

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22351644

>>22350316
>https://bookriot.com/overrated-literary-classics
LOLOLOLOLOL
reads like a satire of a super-woke reading list.
hard to believe it's serious.

>> No.22351646

>>22351638
it completely is a measure of health, if you cannot conform to the society you live in something is fundamentally wrong. doesn't matter how much you agree with what the society does, if you cannot find a single way to fit in you are absolutely not normal and blameless because of "le sick society." whoever first said that quote was coping hard

>> No.22351648

>>22351638
Cope

>> No.22351652

>>22351646
You are just jonesing for an excuse to suck dicks and not be criticized for it.

>> No.22351702

>>22351646
>words words words
Yet, there is one who would disagree

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22351713

>>22351702

>> No.22351719

>>22351597
Look for websites that publish this type of thing and pitch (and pander) similar ideas. You can check the About Us page to see how to pitch and how much they pay.

>> No.22351725

>>22351646
>People opposed to Nazism in Nazi Germany were mentally ill
Thanks schlomo

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22351735

I think I understsand what's going on here...

REPLACE:
AGE OF INNOCENCE with
>"The Davenports is set in the Edwardian era and follows one of very few Black families who have obtained considerable wealth and social status in the United States...The Davenports takes a glimpse at a particular version of African American life that history wants us to forget."

REPLACE:
ON THE ROAD with
>The People We Keep... a novel of ...built families and self-acceptance.
>"When she “borrows” her neighbor’s car to perform at an open mic night, she realizes her life could be much bigger than where she came from. After a fight with her dad, April packs her stuff and leaves for good, and finds a kindred sense of belonging at Cafe Decadence..."

REPLACE:
PRIDE AND PREJUDICE with
>Sofia Khan is ready to give up on men. But when her boss tells her to write an exposé all about the Muslim dating scene, everything just might change.
>Through the process of seeking out stories for her book Sex and the City-style by way of friends, family, co-workers, and maybe some future lovers.

REPLACE:
HUCKLEBERRY FINN with
>Arjie prefers to dress up as a girl... from his childhood to his turbulent adolescence he battles racism and homophobia.


REPLACE:
LOLITA with
>a type of Lolita told from a modern female point of view. In her last year at Wilder College in New Hampshire she begins to take a liking to her new creative writing professor, R.H. Connelly.
>While their ensuing affair is far from non-consensual, as the lives of the adults around her start to fall apart, Isabel begins realizing the power dynamics at play in her relationship with her professor.

REPLACE
LITTLE WOMEN with
>the stories of seven Black women ...bound together by time and space.

>> No.22351820

Q:
is this kind of woke shit fading out in your country?

>> No.22351824

>>22351646
You're right, the resistance in Nazi occupied France were a bunch of losers

>> No.22351944

>>22351725
>>22351824
This but unironically

>> No.22352117

>>22351597
My dude as someone who has published shit I promise you that guy probably isn't making more than $10-20 per article. If you factor in the amount of time mental effort it takes even to make clickbait you are literally getting paid less than you would be working at McDonalds.

>> No.22352143

>>22352117
>My dude as someone who has published shit I promise you that guy probably isn't making more than $10-20 per article.
that's not true unless you're working at a content mill

>> No.22352217

>>22350349
This also threw me. Because Lolita is a book about how pedophilia is good and the ending is the main character thinking how happy he is to have raped her and she's totally fine and happy too. At least attempt to read the damn thing before you shit on it.

>> No.22352357

>>22350369
>Yes, this is the ''Left's'' equivalent of ''watch Ben Shapiro totally own these libs''.
No not really.
Not that Ben Shapiro isn't trash but he's just political theater for shekels this is part of a deliberate and ongoing "progressive" propaganda effort to destroy white western culture.

>> No.22352406

>>22350516
>Always read through archive site so they don't get their analytics clicks.

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>>22350354

>> No.22352464

>>22351494
blue collar workers driving tard trucks are not frontiersmen

>> No.22352470

>>22350354
um yikes, I'm not going to read articles from a guy named after the president of the confederacy. that's hella racist.

>> No.22352775

>>22350420
Those are the classics? I was thinking more like Virgil and the Poems of Ossian, I guess those are OK.

>> No.22352808

>>22352357
That's exactly what Ben Shapiro is aiming for as well.

>> No.22352973

>>22350354
This person is for sure a sexual predator

>> No.22352994

>>22352143
>that's not true unless you're working at a content mill
I know people writing for Vice, not first timers, who would regularly make $40/article.
They literally made shit up instead of doing research, and it's hard to blame them for $40.

>> No.22353008

>>22351646
>if you cannot find a single way to fit in you are absolutely not normal
well, obviously. retard.

>> No.22353048

>>22350420
>white woman (who writes gay YA romances)
these niggas would have been SS officers if they had the chance

>> No.22353626

>>22352994
that's what you get for writing for vice. serious businesses tend to pay $1 per word. shitty listicles like the one we're talking about could net you $150 to $300 in several b-tier websites.

>> No.22353960

>>22352808
whatever you say, I'm sick of trying to explain obvious differences between things that are obviously different to people who think ignoring them is actually clever.

>> No.22353976

>>22351479
Kek

>> No.22354011

>>22350316
>cis white men previlege
>fascism
>a grown adult man lusting after a grown adult woman is bad

>> No.22354017

>>22352217
>she's totally fine and happy too
>raped
You're retarded.

>> No.22354197

>>22354017
He tells her if she doesn't keep having sex with him or tells anybody about what's happening she'll be sent to a horrible foster home. She calls it rape multiple times throughout the book and dies at 17. I'm not sure what you're getting at.

>> No.22354241

>>22350316
Why do you waste our time with this shit?>>22350354
He takes it through the anal cavity.

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>>22350316
>Replace Age of Innocence
>Replace Pride and Prejudice
>Replace Lolita

>> No.22354548

>>22350418
Rilke’s poetry has always been popular with mediocre white women of no discernible value for some reason. I can remember an old interview with Courtney Love and how she goes on for nearly five minutes about how her favorite author is Rilke.

>> No.22354584

>>22350356
are any classics written by whites (NW euro)? I can't think of any

>> No.22354590

>>22350354
Homosexuals should be shot on sight
Jeffrey Davies is a homosexual

>> No.22354596

>>22350316
Replacing catcher in the rye is the correct move

>> No.22354598

>>22351646
Define health

>> No.22354662

>>22350354
I am a social democrat, so I believe I can be defined as left-wing leaning. However, if I were a politician, I would ban people like this faggot from appearing on the campaign trail or having any visibility, as they would lose us a huge number of votes.

Honestly, without being a /pol/ kind of guy at all I still felt like picking up a gun and shooting this guy in the head.

>> No.22355009

>>22354197
Never trust a woman's words, only her actions. She obviously loved all the attention from a handsome and sophisticated European gentleman.

>> No.22355092

>>22350316
I think Jeffrey Davies should be forced to work in the salt mines until he collapses and dies - about half an hour perhaps. I think Jeffrey Davies is a silly little bum-boy who should never have been allowed anywhere near a writing implement, let alone a university. I think Jeffrey Davies has nothing to offer the world, and with a bit of luck, he will soon be made redundant by a pseudo-AI article generator and kill himself.

>> No.22355108

>>22350316
Chat GPT will put these penpigs on the streets. Fucking God-speed.

>> No.22355123

>>22355009
>Woman
XD

>> No.22355161

>>22355009
Yeah that's why she cries every night and runs away from him.

>> No.22355180

>>22350316
would post archive link, but faggot site thinks it's spam.

>> No.22355184

archive link: https //archive ph/XpmH5
tricking successful

>> No.22355190

>>22352775
>ossian
fake and gay and not a classic

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22355191

>>22350904
Patrician post.

>> No.22355193

>>22350384
1. whore lit
2. whore lit
3. whore lit
4. whore lit
5. whore it
6. whore lit
7, whore lit
8. actually good literature
9. whore lit
10. whore lit

>> No.22355196

>>22351497
>you cannot depict racism at all
Of course you can, if whites are the target.

>> No.22355205

>>22350398
yeah. Mark Twain thought racism was retarded, and subtly indicated that in his book. But because it's set in 1840s, people use naughty words. Therefore, etc.

>> No.22355343

imagine caring about what some random fag thinks
look at this shit thread, anons are frothing at the mouth, they're about to kill themselves

>> No.22355396

>>22355343
Social media has ushered in the age of being offended or a victim. It’s all the rage no matter the demographic

>> No.22355427

>>22350685
i came here to post this. and either way, they are each such short reads you could finish them both in an afternoon easily.
admittedly i do have a soft spot for mitch albom, but it is absurd to call his work a classic.

>> No.22355482

>>22350330

About the author

Jeffrey Davies is a professional introvert and writer with imposter syndrome whose work spans the worlds of pop culture, books, music, feminism, and mental health. In addition to Book Riot, his writing has appeared on HuffPost, Collider, PopMatters, Spectrum Culture, and other places. Find him on his website and follow him on Twitter @teeveejeff and Instagram @jeffreyreads. He is also the co-host of a Gilmore Girls podcast, Coffee With a Shot of Cynicism.

Every single time with these cocksuckers.

>> No.22355484

>>22355482
>>22350354
Never mind this Anon had it covered lol.

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>>22350316
Goddamn Canadians!

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>>22350340
lol wtf. i don't know how anyone could be that crazy.

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22355947

>>22352414
I failed the mental health quiz.

>> No.22356234

>>22350354
Every time

>> No.22356239

>>22350522
Rats are adept at living in sewers.

>> No.22356653

>>22350354
how are these people even real its like a /pol/ meme

>> No.22356660

>>22350421
I get serious homosexual vibes from this thing

>> No.22356662

>>22350474
Because this board is populated by masochists

>> No.22356667

>>22350528
Women who say they are just end up with Chad anyways and men who do are just undercover sex pests

>>22350855
The coasts dominate media. Getting rid of our seaboard is extremely important

>> No.22356671

>>22355484
Still, feminism is pretty much why we have incels. This cancer needs to be killed before it infects more people

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22356708

>>22355190
>t. Sam Johnson
Eat a broccoli you fat fuck

>> No.22357111

>>22353048
Gotta join whatever form of mental illness is hip at the time.

>> No.22357123

>>22350316
>it's boring
>it's dated
Wow, very compelling arguments.

>> No.22357197

>>22356708
oh wow ossian fag got a new painting to spam

>> No.22357203

>>22355193
>Rilke
>good