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22343959 No.22343959 [Reply] [Original]

What are some good books on political science? Namely centrist or more loosely defined political ones where you're not directly given any type of true influence towards any given ideology, but more of an overview over different stances. Preferably something recent instead of too old, something that applies to current times. If possible, a native English speaking author where there were no translation required.

>> No.22344034

If you're an American then the constitution is a good place to start. There is also the Magna Carta. For academic tier you can go with John Rawls theory of justice, for anything meme tier just look up pluralism or hyper-pluralism.

>> No.22344083

>>22343959
You won't find one without an insane liberal bias, what you're asking is impossible. You might as well ask for a book written by a fish that makes a fair comparison of wet and dry.

>> No.22344110

>>22343959
Go the hard way and read Baudrillard to understand feminism and leftie mindset to the fullest, then take the even harder route of descartes to Kant for the opposing viewpoint, while finally circling down to Economic Facts and fallacies by Thomas Sowell, a reading that paired with a good recopilation of the amendments passed by each party, will let you see their actual economical intentions.
But desu, it all comes down to this: A party’s main goal is to obtain and maintain power, everything else is secondary

>> No.22344118

>>22344083
reality has a well known liberal bias

>> No.22344129

>>22344118
Liberal mindset has no recourse against evil, and relies on the collective to the point that it loses its individuality and ego. If anything, liberalism is the biggest spook of corruption, as the statist and communal programs create great bubbles for corruption, and embolden the state. Read reverse leninism to understand why evil people somehow always rise to power

>> No.22344142

>>22344110
how do Baudrillard's ideas relate to feminism and leftism and how do they oppose Kant and Descartes?

>> No.22344159

>>22344142
Baudrillard's biggest point is that reality and truth are functionally the same as appearances of reality and truth. As such, the world can not be revolutionized via structures, which are hard to change, but via signs and symbolism, which are easy to change. He also talks about the natural masculinity of structure, and the natural feminity of signs
The lefts control of the narrative and the disabling of the gender identities is by design, a way of destroying structures, and revolutionizing the world.
Descartes introduces a way of finding and understanding reality and truth beyond the signs of it, and Kant proposes a different relation between the individual and it's society, beyond the signs

>> No.22344174

>>22343959
If you’re brand spanking new I’d say you should start with Aristotle, despite your request. He walks you through how to analyze various forms of government. After that, to keep more in line with your request, I’d recommend reading the Constitution and then the Federalist Papers. Afterwards, read Popular Government by Henry Sumner Maine. He walks you through applying the Aristotelean toward the US Constitution and the Federalist Papers.

>> No.22344208

>>22343959
The Quran

>>22344034
>>22344174
>US Constitution
>The constitution country where all daughters are whores, all the sons are whores, and usury is worshipped
>Worth reading in any form
Stop embarrassing yourselves.

>> No.22344348

>>22344208
You're absolutely right, OP should read the Quran and make autismo noises 5 times a day facing east and fuck goats in-between, assalam a lake um my brutha.

>> No.22344363

>>22343959
Ignore the retards above me. Also don’t look for “centrist” takes, that’s retarded and you’re basically requesting sanitized textbooks that you’ll hate. Do the work to read widely. If you do find centrist works, it’ll just be neoliberal shit like Hayek which you’ll disagree with. And honestly, no one’s really a centrist. What are you even looking for, theory?

Anyway, the Oxford handbook of political ideologies is the closest thing to what you’re requesting and as a bonus you’ll pick up a bunch of primary sources to seek out yourself.

>> No.22344412

I looked at some intro courses for political science and they had this book:

>Comparative Government and Politics 12th Edition
>by John McCormick (Author)

Offering a comprehensive introduction to the comparison of governments and political systems, this new edition helps students to understand not just the institutions and political cultures of their own countries but also those of a wide range of democracies and authoritarian regimes from around the world.

This new edition offers:
-A revised structure to aid navigation and understanding
-New learning features, 'Using Theory' and 'Exploring Problems', designed to help students think comparatively
-Empirical global examples, with increased coverage of non-Western scholarship and analyses
-Coverage of important contemporary topics including: minorities; LGBTQ+ issues; identity politics; women in politics; political trust; populism; Covid-19.

Featuring a wide range of engaging learning features, this book is an essential text for undergraduate and postgraduate courses on Comparative Politics, Comparative Government, Introduction to Politics and Introduction to Political Science.

>> No.22344425

>>22344412
Well with coverage of important topics like identity politics, LGBTQZW, females, and covid it sounds like you found a real winner. Intro political science is trash, no offense to your efforts in locating the materials, look for the shit the 300 and 400 level classes are reading.

>> No.22344450
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22344450

>>22344110
>reading a retard like Sowell after Descartes and Kant

>> No.22344482

>>22344450
Sowell is an adequate economist, and exposes the left on it's fullest extent. His views on anything else is irrelevant, that book is golden stock for awakening normies to economical fallacies

>> No.22344485

>>22344482
He's a brainlet regurgitating basic neoclassical slop, absolutely not worth reading

>> No.22344495

>>22344482
If this is going to devolve into an economic thread John Maynard Keynes is the only relevant read when it come to western countries, regardless of wherever you fall on the spectrum. All the free market right wingers babble endlessly about invisible hands and shit then turn around stick to Keynes in practice.

>> No.22344497

>>22344485
Point to a better resource for the economical fallacies regurgitated politicians, I'll wait

>> No.22344502

>>22344497
Regurgitated by* my apologies
>>22344495
Theory is not enough for normies, they cannot do inference or apply theory on their own

>> No.22344511

>>22344502
That's a fair point.

>> No.22344519

>>22344497
If you want books that debunk the free market orthodoxy that prevails:
Thorstein Veblen - The Theory of the Leisure Class
Louis de Bonald - The True and Only Wealth of Nations: Essays on Family, Society and Economy
Karl Polanyi - The Great Transformation
Georges Sorel - Social Foundations of Contemporary Economics
Daniel Bell - The Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism
Jonathan Nitzan and Shimshon Bichler - Capital as Power: A Study of Order and Creorder

>> No.22344525

>>22344519
No, I want books that immunize op to moralist games that hide the economical truth of the political class actions

>> No.22344551

>>22344525
Your suggestion would only immunize OP to leftist retardation, but would obscure how the right often supports an economic order that systematically eradicates values that they supposedly care about.

>> No.22344564

>>22344551
You may be right. I'd argue baudrillard system of objects could help him with that.

>> No.22344584

Our Political Nature by Tuschman
Predisposed by Hibbing
Sex, Power and Partisanship Garcia

>> No.22344690

>>22344208
Op asked for political science, not for a bugman manual.

>> No.22344785

>>22344034
John Rawls is great. But I would supplement with On Genetic Interests by Frank Salter and The Culture of Critique series by Kevin MacDonald because Rawls is too generic.

I personally like the work of the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Always a good introduction to whatever topic you are interested in. Though it does skew to the left (https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/rights/).). That and the annoying convention of referring to generic persons as "she." So in the article on Rights, the author refers to an admiral of the navy as a "she," which is completely unnecessary. But that is quibbling with an otherwise invaluable resource.

I'm surrounded by progressives btw. And I was formerly quite liberal myself. And generally don't mind the culture of the university etc. But sometimes I need to vent every now and then because they really go too far. It's lucky I can't stand the Republicans because otherwise it would get pretty awkward with most of the people I live and work with.

>> No.22344792

>>22344690
same thing

>> No.22344810

>>22344519
Wasn’t Veblen a massive simp?

>> No.22345764

>>22343959
Fukuyama books are good for that(Political Order series). Also Issiah Berlin in 2 Concepts of Liberty(although that is a big hard for a first read). Read articles about Rawls if you want, or just start with Hobbes & Locke.

>> No.22345858

>>22344482
>economics
astrology tier retardation

>> No.22346139

>>22345858
>Why do regulations make less housing available?
>Must be a coincidence I reckon