brecht hate thread

[Anonymous No.22336077]

i hate bertold brecht so much bros, its unreal. he is, and thats actually insanely hard to do, worse than thomas mann.

in my eyes brecht is talentless hack who shovels his sick ideologies into the mind of the people. i really wish hitler would have killed him.

[Anonymous No.22336094]

>>22336077
>who shovels his sick ideologies into the mind of the people.
like every other artist in history. at least brecht is honest and upfront about it. cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.22336104]

>>22336077
cryingchudwojak.png

[Anonymous No.22336112]

>>22336077
I don't even need to hate. His work is only read by acting school pseuds. Not even bourgeois Marxists bother with him anymore.

[Anonymous No.22336120]

>that boomer that posts brecht quotes on social media

[Anonymous No.22336125]

>hating funny songs and poems about man's inhumanity to man
I think you're on the wrong website m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-lHrDPjGfQ

[Anonymous No.22336165]

>>22336112
i am from germany. you have to read him in school. its so fucking over.

[Anonymous No.22336174]

>>22336120
Der Fuhrer sagt “der kommt der letze winter.” Der Fuhrer sagt “du musst marschirr!”

[Anonymous No.22336177]

>>22336165
no you don't

[Anonymous No.22336180]

>>22336125
Both 1931 movie versions of this play are great. The ones with Albert Prejean and the German one with Lotte Lenya and the other Brecht regular who’s in all his things. He plays the street vendor.

[Anonymous No.22336181]

>>22336125
Ernst Busch is the man’s name. I just checked.

[Anonymous No.22336231]

>When German Communists threatened his safety in 1945, Bertolt Brecht instructed them to "Leave Jünger alone."
For this alone Brecht is more based than any of the meme authors /lit/ circlejerks

[Anonymous No.22336467]

>>22336231
Why did he do it?

[Anonymous No.22336510]

>>22336077
He's kinda big in Baltic states too. Most likely BC we've been kraut colonies for centuries. Lokal inteligentsya never relent staging of his plays, the insufferable provincials they are. I hate them so much its impossible.

[Anonymous No.22336514]

>>22336077
Kurt Weill is extremely based so Brecht gets a pass from me too. Three-Penny Opera and Mahogany are enjoyable plays, try watching the German film version of 3PO

[Anonymous No.22336543]

>>22336514
Weill went to Europe and scored Hollywood movies. There’s a good operatic shwasbuckler movie he did about a time traveler ending up in pirate times. I wish I could remember the name.

[Anonymous No.22336622]

>>22336543
>time traveler ending up in pirate times
Where do we go from here?

[Anonymous No.22336690]

>>22336077
Thomas Mann is definitely worse and one of the biggest reason is>>22336112. Brecht is fairly irrelevant but Thomas Mann is a truly pathetic author and the fact that both here in Germany and even internationally he's part of the holy grail group of German authors and a significant part of the curriculum is just a right stab to the balls.

[Anonymous No.22336718]

>>22336690
nicht deutsche werden nie den genius von heinrich mann verstehen

[Anonymous No.22336733]

>>22336718
Da bräuchte man ja auch Übersetzungen. Glaube sogar die meisten deutschen Leser wissen nicht, dass Thomas Mann einen Bruder hatte.

[Anonymous No.22336734]

>>22336622
Yup!

>The film is notable as Weill's only musical written directly for the screen and for its anachronistic blend of history and contemporary (1940s) slang. At the time, the mock-operatic sequence, "The Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria," was one of the longest musical sequences ever created for a screen musical.

This is a trope I always loved about Weill. I like how in the Threepenny opera it is the 1800s Jack the Ripper times but Mack wears a contemporary suit and the music is all jazz. Also one of the events which happens in the story is the Queen Adelaide’s inauguration which happened in 1831.

[Anonymous No.22336808]

I wonder what he would think of commie countries making him mandatory reading. On another note, it's also interesting how everyone but the hardliner ideologues dropped him like hot potato in central europe after communism ended and people were not forced to read him. Though regrettably it is those ideologues who hold most urban theaters in a stifling vice grip.

[Anonymous No.22336824]

Couldn't tell you the name of a single thing he wrote.

[Anonymous No.22336847]

talentless hack but this poem is pretty spicy

>Nach dem Aufstand des 17. Juni ließ der Sekretär des Schriftstellerverbands in der Stalinallee Flugblätter verteilen auf denen zu lesen war, daß das Volk das Vertrauen der Regierung verscherzt habe und es nur durch verdoppelte Arbeit zurückerobern könne. Wäre es da nicht doch einfacher, die Regierung löste das Volk auf und wählte ein anderes?

[Anonymous No.22336865]

>>22336165
that has to be AI generated

[Anonymous No.22336869]

>>22336865
no, you really have to read him here in school

[Anonymous No.22337162]

>>22336077
ok, why do you think that?

[Anonymous No.22337177]

>>22337162
because everything he wrote was bad (in my opinion). and i dont like his socialist and liberal attitude

[Anonymous No.22337244]

Do German's not like Mann? Where is the hate for him coming from? He's one of my favorite writers.

[Anonymous No.22337271]

>>22337244
germans suck his balls. its just me (op). i already made many posts and threads here about thomas. he is a fraud. the respect and fame he has should have gone to his brother heinrich. he is the true genius of german literature from the 19th/20th century

[Anonymous No.22337299]

>>22337244
The far left hates him for being bourgeois and the far right for being a decadent homo. Everyone else likes him and he's considered one of the goats of German literature.

[Anonymous No.22337340]

>>22337271
I've heard his brother is a good writer. What do you think about Mann's son as a writer?
>>22337299
>The far left hates him for being bourgeois and the far right for being a decadent homo
that seems to be true of all the modernist novelists lol

[Anonymous No.22337415]

The pinnacle of Verfremdungseffekt

[Anonymous No.22337431]

>>22337415
>reads Barthes once

[Anonymous No.22337438]

>>22336077
>One must not forget that in order to achieve engagement, art is as ephemeral as the event that inspired it. It can neither discern the essential element to attack in this society nor find a critical distance from it (in spite of theory, and we can't forget that Brecht failed to do this with Stalinism). Without critical distance toward the components of this world, technical art is incapable of symbolizing or lifting anything to a universal pane; it simply dissipates without a trace. One can no longer characterize this dissolution brought on by its own deficiency (and not by the absence of state support, which these revolutionaries expect). The Festival of Avignon of 1976, with its ridiculous choice of street performances, is a good example of "whateverism" that pretends to be engaged but is occupied in a screeching significance, in blather, in gesturing, in a false celebration, in true incoherence, but a real moneymaker killing committed theatre.

[Anonymous No.22337495]

>>22337299
I feel like Mann was a great talent but he comes off more degenerate and icky than most out and proud degenerates do, plus his moralist turn after WW1 practically ruined his works thematically. Fucking Mario and the Magician might just be the most heavy handed work of literature I ever had the misfortune of reading. Anything he wrote after the Magic Mountain is borderline unreadable.

[Anonymous No.22338758]

>>22336808
I live in an ex-commie country and we literally read Brecht in high school.

[Anonymous No.22339335]

>dude what if you were watching a play and you were aware that you were watching a play
how does this hurt capitalism or whatever

[Anonymous No.22339349]

Why do you guys hate Thomas Mann? I just got one of his books from the library and it's good.

[Anonymous No.22339389]

>>22336077
>[Brecht is] loathsome, vulgar, petty, little, nothing.

https://youtu.be/Hf5YyUwzV_4?t=1854

[Anonymous No.22339400]

>>22336077
What is he so smug about?

[Anonymous No.22340516]

Nah he’s based and you’re just jealous.

[Anonymous No.22340592]

The thing like most about Brecht is that his greatest impact was destroying any interest regular people could have in theater and having something he wrote become a big pop song. There’s something so just about it.

[Anonymous No.22340739]

>>22338758
Our schools had the decency to make us read Mann rather than him when we got to interwar literature.