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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:29:39 2023 No.22319371 [Reply] [Original]

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>>22310396

Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:31:43 2023 No.22319381
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If we're doing this then start it off right. Post (and discuss; oh no, forced discussion!) the
>last book you read
>current book you are reading
>next book you plan to read

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:33:27 2023 No.22319388 File: 36 KB, 303x500, 1841494089.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22319381

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:35:30 2023 No.22319391 >>22319381 Return to the Whorl Camp Damascus Lord of Light

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:36:50 2023 No.22319396 Is the three body problem series worth reading or is it modern sci-drivel?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:38:38 2023 No.22319402 File: 193 KB, 680x680, 6febfde511a84b0cf5aae47ac385e25f_original.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22319381 >>last book you read The third anthology I've read from this guy. I'm a big fan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:41:37 2023 No.22319418 File: 3.15 MB, 1160x1600, 000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are the books anything like the anime movies?

Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:44:04 2023 No.22319429
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>>22319381
Perfect

>Last
Morning Star by Pierce Brown, 5/5. It took the ending section of Golden Son, which was amazing, and mostly maintained it throughout. Overall I have my gripes with the narrative of this first Red Rising trilogy but the writing and Character work really made up for any criticisms I have.
>Current
'Bout to start Stormrage by Richard Knaak. It's a WoW book about Malfurion doing some stuff in the Emerald Dream. That's basically all I know.
>Next
Nightside of the Long Sun by Gene Wolfe. Looking forward to reading the rest of The Solar Cycle after finishing BotNS, Urth, and Fifth Head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:47:50 2023 No.22319438 >>22319396 can tell from this question that it'll be beyond you, don't bother

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:51:22 2023 No.22319443 >>22319402 If it's a single author it's a collection, not an anthology.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:52:48 2023 No.22319447 >>22319396 It's Chinese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:02:27 2023 No.22319464 >>22319443 >Anthology >A collection of literary pieces, such as poems, short stories, or plays.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:06:32 2023 No.22319476 >>22319396 Avoid. The main character is a roastie who literally dooms the entire planet to death because of roastie reasons, no wonder it won hugo and nebula.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:15:38 2023 No.22319496 >>22319464 The dictionary definition isn't relevant. It's what authors, publishers, bookstores, marketers use. Most readers do as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:20:24 2023 No.22319503 Started gardens of the moon. I heard that this book drops you in the deep end but it doesn't feel like that for me. Almost all the dialogue feels like thinly veiled exposition. Anyone else feel this way? Should I keep reading or give up

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:30:21 2023 No.22319517
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>>22319381
>last
The Name of the Wind

>current
Gloriana; or, the unfufill’d Queen by Moorcock

>next
Idk, maybe the Corum series by Moorcock, or The Darkness That Comes Before, or maybe Blindsight

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:30:40 2023 No.22319518
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12 Miles Below

https://www.amazon.com/12-Miles-Below-Progression-Fantasy-ebook/dp/B0BWKDF1C7

Icy death above. Monster-filled dungeons below. He must fight or freeze.

Extreme sub-zero temperatures suffocate the surface. Frozen structures of bygone eras span across massive ice-wastes. And the survivors closely guard any technology rediscovered within them.

The only escape from the deadly climate is beneath the surface, but that doesn't mean it's safe...

Monstrous machines lurk in the depths. Unhinged demigods war against them, dying over and over, treating it all like a game. The depths themselves shift over time, more contraption than rock.

When an expedition into the far uncharted north goes terribly wrong, Keith Winterscar and his father get trapped together in a desperate fight for survival. Stumbling upon an ancient war of titanic scale, the two will need to set their differences aside while they struggle against gods, legends, and the secrets of the realm that lies below.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:35:22 2023 No.22319528 >>22319517 >The Name of the Wind isn't it the one with the popular cuck quote

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:37:10 2023 No.22319532 File: 756 KB, 3023x948, 8EE3C86F-4517-470C-B087-FCB6C05C9967.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22319528 Yes it was weird

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:37:51 2023 No.22319534 >>22319496 See >>22319464

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:38:52 2023 No.22319535
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>>22319381
>last
The Scarlet Letter (Re-read, good book, Hawthorne can throw together some real beautiful sentences at times, and despite all the hate he gets for his sentences being "overlong", I like his style. I'll get around to reading Mosses from an Old Manse sometime soon.)
>current
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court (It's uhhh alright I guess)
>next
Phantastes by George MacDonald

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:41:25 2023 No.22319543 >>22319381 >last book you read Lavinia >current book you are reading My own shitty book >next book you plan to read Editing my shitty book

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:43:55 2023 No.22319548

>>22319503
The whole Malazan series feels like a long exposition towards a unique world with the history, extraordinary people and just dumping you right in there.

I read it until the 5th book and concluded that Malazan wasn't for me though. None of the characters felt interesting since it felt like none of them went through meaningful development, the climactic battles at the end of each book were usually anticlimactic, and the books were pretty boring for the most part.

I kept reading until the 5th book since I loved the world/bridge burners/the whole mystery of wtf the old emperor of Malazan did and why Sully rebelled.

I drop most epic fantasy novels though, I'm more of a Brandon Sanderson guy so I may just have pleb taste.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 00:57:47 2023 No.22319586 >>22319548 Epic Fantasy and Brandon Sanderson are both plebcore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:09:20 2023 No.22319609 >>22319543 post it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:18:44 2023 No.22319632 File: 593 KB, 451x623, coi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How is it compared to book 1? Is the new protag as good as klein? is klein still fighting the lord of mysteries in the dream?

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:24:51 2023 No.22319648
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>>22319396
>>22319503
>>22319548
outstanding post, fellow anons but are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker??
Any books with incest?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:49:56 2023 No.22319692 Thoughts on litrpg?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:52:13 2023 No.22319700 >>22319648 I knew this was going to happen the minute I read the original. Why can't you people just be normal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:53:16 2023 No.22319703 >>22319692 It exists.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:54:48 2023 No.22319708 >>22319700 >normal >4chan(nel)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:57:10 2023 No.22319713 >>22319700 >Why can't you people discuss the same socially-popular titles ad nauseum? Go to any aggregate website, normalfag trash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:00:20 2023 No.22319724 >>22319692 There's no intrinsic reason it has to be bad. But it is mostly bad.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:01:32 2023 No.22319731

>>22319632
It's okay. It exposes more of the authors fetish for deux ex machina conveniences and plot armor and reads almost identically to part one, even though it shouldn't.
The MC isn't remotely like Klein at all, and yet is written almost the same and makes all the same decisions Klein would make even when it's totally against his characterization.
It feels kinda tacked on so far and even though there's a blatantly obvious overarching plot you get none of the details of it so it feels like everyone is just wandering around doing their own unrelated things which at most "coincidentally" tie into it.

In other words, imagine LotM, but you already know everything about the setting, the power system, and the plot from the start and are just watching Klein bumble around waiting for him to actually do something instead of learning about all that shit alongside him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:01:42 2023 No.22319732 >>22319713 Being anonymous allows for being an aggregate much more easily as compared to other sites that demand discrete accounts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:08:25 2023 No.22319758 >>22319418 No. The second movie is beautiful, the book it's based on is soulless trash.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:19:06 2023 No.22319788

>>22319692
The best one is Dungeon Crawler Carl, there's nothing quite on that level but there's a few that're clearly passionate projects with promise like Infinite Realm, and then a lot of very 'just kind of fine' ones that seem like people just fiddling with a concept without really delving too deep into it. Like, I think LitRPG is too often just 'flavour'. It should either inform the world in some way (like Infinite Realm) or the absurdity of it should be used to highlight something (whether in humour or in contrast to seriousness), but so often it's just "yeah it's just kinda there".

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:20:34 2023 No.22319791 >>22319731 Oh well I'll wait for more chapters then I want more klein and roselle chapters

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:22:59 2023 No.22319795 >>22319713 I literally have no clue what your post means. I was lamenting the birth of the latest way to shit up the general.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:24:02 2023 No.22319799 >>22319713 got any recs anon?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:28:01 2023 No.22319813 >>22319692 I love it. It's to the new pulp era what sword and sorcery was to the first.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:29:27 2023 No.22319816 >>22319791 That's probably not going to happen. We DID have an Amon scene though, so maybe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:29:29 2023 No.22319817 >>22319813 No.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:31:16 2023 No.22319825 I finished Citadel of the Autarch recently, and I've been kind of starting at Urth of the New Sun. I've been told its not quite as good as the previous 4, is that true?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:31:29 2023 No.22319828 >>22319817 You only say that because you're the cowardly stodge who couldn't get with the times. What do you think pulp looked like to the normies of the time?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:32:32 2023 No.22319838 >>22319828 Please be quiet.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:40:05 2023 No.22319867

>>22319838
Search your feelings. You know it to be true. And if you don't, click on a random mag and read a random story - they are effectively all shit. It didn't win by quality but by volume and energy and that's what litrpg brings to this era. https://archive.org/details/weirdtalesmagazine?tab=collection&and%5B%5D=year%3A%221930%22

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:41:12 2023 No.22319872 >>22319825 Kinda. The first 40% or so is "Severian goes on a spaceship adventure" and is not particularly compelling literature. It's very pulpy. After the spaceship part it returns to form.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:51:04 2023 No.22319891 >>22319828 What do you think Robert E Howard and Clark Ashton smith looked like to normies at the time? Well they read like Shakespeare compared to contemporary schlock

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 02:55:23 2023 No.22319901 >>22319891 They sounded like more pulp freakazoids to normies of the time. Then, as now, something was uncorked and the slow need time to catch up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:09:48 2023 No.22319938 >>22319901 Won't happen to litrpg

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:14:38 2023 No.22319948

>>22319938
Maybe, but the upwelling is there. An emergent force that can be felt independent of quality. None of them get mainstreamed but all of them get bandwagoned. This time won't come again for you. Don't be the guy who snobbily passed the pulp rack because you knew you were better than it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:19:12 2023 No.22319957
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Is it just me or is written fiction kind of dour in comparison to other mediums.
You'd think there would be more creativity since there is no barriers beyond the author's imagination, yet everything seems to blend together.

I want to find something that has creatively suspenseful scenarios, i don't care about literary merit . just be compelling. I thought webfiction would be an exciting format to delve into. but it's not, everything is just creatively bankrupt. with the peak being shit like Worm where a third of it is teenage relationship drama.

Why do people find it so difficult to find something similar to something like JOJO in terms of creative suspense scenarios with characters using their ingenuity and absurd abilities? or Hunter X Hunter with the intricate plotting of its current arc. I always assumed that written fiction would far surpass this stuff yet when I actually delve into it... it's really disappointing. am I doing something wrong here? am I looking in the wrong places?

>inb4 post gets dismissed because I mentioned popular things

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:20:21 2023 No.22319959

>>22319872
This kind of stuff is why I'll never take genre fiction seriously. Not saying you're one who does it, but it really irks me how many of these stories get away with these kinds of things by their fans just waving it way with excuses like "it gets better". The whole damn thing from beginning to end should be good, for fuck's sake.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:23:32 2023 No.22319966

>>22319957
>>inb4 post gets dismissed because I mentioned popular things
Not because you mentioned popular things, but I'm going to dismiss it because if you really believe fiction is "dour in comparison to other mediums", or that "everything seems to blend together", then it's clear you've either not read much at all, or you're sticking, for whatever reason, to garbage (who knows, maybe the garbage just lands in your lap, unfortunately).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:29:06 2023 No.22319982 File: 143 KB, 683x1024, sniff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22319948 >This time won't come again for you. Don't be the guy who snobbily passed the pulp rack because you knew you were better than it. What did he mean by this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:31:04 2023 No.22319986 Any good book with an average and clumsy protagonist? (and no chosen one bs too) Kinda like Neville from harry potter

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:47:43 2023 No.22320027

>>22319418
The books are decent as long as you know you’re what you’re getting into and you remember it’s a light novel, not Ulysses. Don’t expect much character development out of him, from the first page he’s pretty much a fucking overpowered god, he remains the exact same unkillable god 30 books later. It’s still a fun experience if you’re in the mood for some future sci fi castlevania vibes. The best part of D is every single woman who’s ever been introduced has immediately simped for him and he just hasn’t given a single shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:47:52 2023 No.22320028 >>22319418 Anime movies were based on books 1 and 3. Surprisingly faithful, too. Translation is on the dry side and author really wants to you get just how beautiful D is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:49:47 2023 No.22320031 >>22319966 His two immediate examples were JJBA and HxH: Of course his taste is garbage and he hasn't read much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 03:49:56 2023 No.22320032 >>22319959 >botns is genre fiction You’re a addle brained simpleton and your mother should have smothered you in your crib.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 04:00:41 2023 No.22320062

>>22320032
It is. You can go ahead and try to prove that it isn't, but it is. Just because you like it a lot and think it's better than most other genre fiction doesn't mean it's not genre fiction. You'll just sound like those manga kiddies who swear that their favorite shounen series isn't shounen, but seinen, because it's actually extremely mature and so above all the other manga series geared towards elementary through high school aged boys.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 04:32:54 2023 No.22320123

>>22319966
ok recommend something.

>>22320031
ok what do you recommend?

I've read
-dunsany
-mervyn peake
-hodgson
-robert e howard
-lovecraft
-clark ashton smith
-fritz lieber

do I have e-cred now? they're okay but not what I'm looking for. I want something actively compelling and i don't care if its low brow or even poorly written. PULP, I've read some low brow pulpy stuff and its held my attention much more easily.

also if JJBA is so bad can you name something that does creative suspense scenarios better than it does?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 04:35:24 2023 No.22320130 Trying to read the dragonbone chair but the first quarter has been a slog. Is it worth powering through

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 04:43:42 2023 No.22320150 >>22320062 I didn’t read a single word you said after “shounen.” I don’t argue with midwit weeb faggots who pretend they’re far more intelligent than they actually are.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 04:56:39 2023 No.22320176 >>22320130 I remember it picking up after they get through the first section in the woods. Third book has some good moments, although it's been a decade since I read this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 05:29:45 2023 No.22320242 Alright /sffg/, let's play fuck, marry, kill. You may use any three characters from either the last sff book you have read, or your own writing. Be sure to give some explanation on each choice as well.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 05:43:11 2023 No.22320275

>>22319692
LITRPG is a concept doomed from the very beginning. Think about what it means. Zoomers today are so hyper-aware because of constant access to television, internet and video games that they've been rendered incapable of having a sense of wonder in their literature because the same wonder is missing from their real life as well. Instead they seek hyper self aware stories like litRPGs which reduce magic to video game mechanics that the zoomer is familiar to. Even though such mechanics have no business existing in the given setting.

Imagine reading a story that explicitly screams at you that its all fake on a meta level. That's what litrpgs are. And that's probably what zoomers need since they don't possess any suspension of disbelief anyway

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 05:44:15 2023 No.22320278 >>22319957 Read Reverend Insanity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 05:45:36 2023 No.22320284 >>22319957 If you want wacky complicated bullshit ability fights try Lord of the Mysteries.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 06:02:14 2023 No.22320327 >>22318933 > he found God thanks for selling it to me, going to read the rest

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 07:04:26 2023 No.22320442 >>22319891 >Robert E Howard REH was the best author of the pulp genre. Most others pulp hacks wrote schlock and faded into obscurity. In decades to come, all litRPG's schlock will be forgotten, and a few good authors will be held up as examples.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 07:13:06 2023 No.22320461

>>22319957
Jojo and hxh are garbage from story and literary point if view, I watched hxh anime and it was entertaining in a way a game of football on tv is entertaining, in reality 95% of it was slog and the rest 5% somewhat good. Japanese manga on the other hand often has nice pictures but it's not literature.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 07:25:03 2023 No.22320473 >>22320327 Might as well read the Anne Rice books too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 07:28:10 2023 No.22320478 >>22320461 says the guy in /SFFG/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 09:23:36 2023 No.22320687 >>22319692 It's shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 09:44:58 2023 No.22320737 File: 431 KB, 1600x890, Malazan World.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just started Malazan. What am i in for my /lit/bros?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 09:50:43 2023 No.22320755 >>22320737 Juice that is not worth the squeeze. If you want a long-ish epic fantasy series, try Bakker.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 10:05:36 2023 No.22320784
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I just finished reading this after seeing it appear here. I liked it it was a bit slow but this and the general incomprehensible actions of the atevi really created a proper stressed atmosphere for the main character. I liked how humans and atevi fundamentally can not understand eachother and how misunderstanding and the fear of misunderstanding rule the interactions between them.
When I read it I didnt realise it was the first in a long series, can anyone recommend the next books?

ps: I read some goodreads reviews and its hilarious how easily people are filtered by such a clear narrative.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 10:38:12 2023 No.22320852 >>22320737 Long and boring tabletop game recap.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 10:51:44 2023 No.22320881

So I recently purchased the two new(ish) hardcover omnibuses containing both of the Herbert Sr Dune trilogies. I was wondering if anybody ITT knows of such a thing for the newer Dune novels? I've read through the original 6 books twice now and intend to dip my toes into the various Herbert Jr series but don't really want a dozen+ new books clogging up shelf space

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 10:59:34 2023 No.22320896 >>22320881 Just get an ereader then

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 11:08:59 2023 No.22320912

I'm so glad all you retards got your own containment thread, wouldn't want your trash taste spilling over to the rest of the (admittedly already shit) board. Imagine having the ability to read and wasting it in the same way normalfags vegetate in front of Tiktok and Netflix lmao. The least you can do is show some respect when your betters point out the inadequacy of your 'literature', who knows, maybe you can learn something from them but I doubt it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 12:08:26 2023 No.22321046

>>22319692
>Thoughts on litrpg?
It's literally the one genre tag that's enough to put me off of reading something.
I'll read any old shit but it just makes the whole thing so limited.
Completely unneeded too because writers like Sanderson were already basically doing video game levels for their magic systems in popular novels, they just had the decency to obscure it a bit and not subject the reader to full stat screen printouts.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 12:15:39 2023 No.22321071

>>22320784
Yeah sure if you liked it, she's a very consistent author and any issue you would have with her style of writing is already present in Foreigner so if you're cool with it already you won't have issues.
>>22320912
>outer/lit/ encounters people actually reading the books they talk about and gets scared

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 12:15:50 2023 No.22321072 File: 1.32 MB, 1080x1676, x03o3jr4uyx91.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I thought it was good. Enjoyed the large focus on Cassius.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 13:11:24 2023 No.22321217 >>22319381 >last book you read Anthem >current book you are reading A Princess of Mars >next book you plan to read Probably Gods of Mars I also got the first Del Ray Conan collection so I'm reading that on and off just whenever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 13:28:26 2023 No.22321277 >>22320242 These aren't fun if you're choosing the characters. How about restricting it to protagonist, antagonist, and love interest of the last book you read/wrote?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 13:49:21 2023 No.22321335 Why is it every single new book in the fantasy sections of book shops a) written by women and b) barely disguised smut? Is there any point if you have a penis trying to get published traditionally?

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 13:51:21 2023 No.22321344

>>22319692
Utter cancer I didn't even fathom the depths of its retardation until I tried reading a few, why unless your iq is sub 50 do you need a video game esque system to keep track of a characters progression?
If you were reading Lord of the rings should Tolkien have had a final fantasy level up music play whenever Aragon killed an orc?

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:05:23 2023 No.22321380

>>22321335
>Why is it every single new book in the fantasy sections of book shops a) written by women and b) barely disguised smut?
80% of book buyers are women and the publishing industry is primarily women. Romance is by far the best selling fiction genre, so it gets forced into everything.
>Is there any point if you have a penis trying to get published traditionally?
Outside of YA, where maybe you'll have a tiny chance if you're LGBT, it's possible, though new male authors are definitely declining. They've been writing articles about this phenomenon for a few years now, but besides self-publishing, there doesn't seem to be any solution in sight.
https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/54863/1/where-have-all-the-young-male-novelists-gone

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:12:04 2023 No.22321398 >>22321380 80% are women really? Fuck. So if I'm writing something more akin to ASOIF then whatever smut shit is trending now I'm fucked then?

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:22:50 2023 No.22321429
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/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:25:39 2023 No.22321442 >>22321429 >Reverend Insanity, Why do you keep pushing your book? It reads like a 1980's English dub of a martial arts flick. If I wanted terrible lines I'll just watch Jackie chan's drunken master dubbed

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:27:02 2023 No.22321445
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/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:29:36 2023 No.22321452 File: 384 KB, 2000x1333, htra270_vv086-2000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22321442 >Why do you keep pushing your book? ? >I'll just watch Jackie chan's drunken master dubbed watch Rush Hour KINO instead

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:31:20 2023 No.22321454 >>22321452 Go figure, you didn't comprehend a single word I wrote.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:32:41 2023 No.22321458

>>22321398
You're going to have a tougher time for sure, but it depends. Publishing fantasy traditionally is apparently highly competitive right now and word count's are trending downward. An epic fantasy novel from a debut novelist is going to be a hard sell. Like anything, though, if the writing and query's strong enough, someone SHOULD eventually take notice.

I've run into a similar problem with my own work, which is why I now know more about the current state of the business than I care to. I'm still going to give traditional publishing an honest try, but I expect I'll end up doing a hybrid of Royal Road/Amazon publishing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:33:55 2023 No.22321460 >>22321454 >Go figure, you didn't comprehend a single word I wrote. Why should I care? Are you going to ask the same question in the next thread? Or in next week's thread? See you in the next thread, retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:38:45 2023 No.22321474 >>22321460 >Be new fag >Wonder why this thing gets posted >Read it, it's stupid >Gett mad at calling out on why the author keep shilling his own work >Can't handle any scrutiny >Get so mad he storms off Lol. You authors are way too sensitive

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:41:47 2023 No.22321483 >>22321474 lmao imagine being this dumb lurk moar

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:43:48 2023 No.22321488 >>22320130 See >>22319648

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:44:00 2023 No.22321489 >>22321458 https://twitter.com/bhvide/status/1652033790280081409

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:44:09 2023 No.22321490 >>22321483 >Still getting mad >Seething this much Lol wtf is wrong with you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:47:18 2023 No.22321498 >>22320737 Again, see >>22319648 Cheers!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:51:12 2023 No.22321507 File: 225 KB, 604x883, F2CyUQ9WYAAxUGJ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is what you're competing against. Good luck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:54:19 2023 No.22321523 >>22321454 Go figure

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:55:12 2023 No.22321526 >>22321507 How horrifying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:55:41 2023 No.22321527 >>22321489 Thanks, but I don't write LitRPG. I know that's the big thing on RR, though I've seen some urban fantasy stories do well on there, too, so I'm hoping my work's a good fit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:57:07 2023 No.22321531 >>22321490 >>22321474 >>22321398 >>22321507 >>22321498 >>22321488 >>22321489 >>22321458 >>22321429 >>22321445 >>22321380 >>22321344 >>22321335 newfags why dont you read a book? u fags dont even read

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:57:14 2023 No.22321533 >>22320784 Yes, it's great. It's considered her best series along with Fortress and the Morgaine Cycle.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:00:24 2023 No.22321542 >>22321533 >her stopped reading there

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:01:54 2023 No.22321548 File: 19 KB, 274x351, 1563026594496.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22321531 I do read, i just hate retards that always make the same questions. >Just started malazan whataminfor brosss? >Any books with no womens?!?!?!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:03:00 2023 No.22321553 >>22321507 no this is actually based because its wmbf

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:03:25 2023 No.22321556 File: 2.52 MB, 3000x3000, FyCdBMXXwAEMwCx.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22321542 See >>22319648

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:22:28 2023 No.22321611 >>22321548 nta, but your problems are that you expect continuity of posters, a lack of new posters, and that most pay any attention or care about anything other than their self.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:23:37 2023 No.22321614 >>22321527 Urban fantasy is mostly an offshoot of paranormal romance in marketing terms.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:26:41 2023 No.22321620 >>22321611 shut the fuck up fatty

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:41:29 2023 No.22321664
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>>22319371
I just finished reading Light Bringer. It’s been a while since I last cried while reading a book but the last couple pages made me sob. Do we know when the next book is coming out? It’s probably going to take a couple years. I really don’t want to wait so long.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:54:51 2023 No.22321704
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good morning /sffg/. any fantasy novels (or series) that have a similar MC to pic related?
>raven black hair
>pale skin
>light, striking eyes
>sassy and mysterious half-elf

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 15:57:13 2023 No.22321709 >>22321704 All roastie fiction is like that

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:10:01 2023 No.22321757 >>22321709 any specific recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:12:48 2023 No.22321768 >>22321757 Nk jemisin

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:19:03 2023 No.22321790 >>22321768 doubt.jpg

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:28:11 2023 No.22321818 File: 126 KB, 1013x1200, This is for (You).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22321768 >Nk jemisin >pale skin

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:30:45 2023 No.22321823 File: 2 KB, 40x64, nkjem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22321790 >>22321818

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:32:28 2023 No.22321827

>>22321704
Godstalk.
She's cold and distant at first but Arylin Moonblade from the Song & Swords series by Elaine Cunningham fits perfectly, and it's set in the forgotten realms universe like BG3.
Some official art makes her look pudgy and a womanlet for some reason. FG art was weird back sometimes, early drizzt looked like a muslim in some sourcebooks lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:38:39 2023 No.22321844 >>22321827 thanks for the unironic recommends bro. these both look great

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:41:55 2023 No.22321853 >>22319518 buy an advertisement

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:48:19 2023 No.22321880
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>>22319713
I only come here to ask normalfag tier questions because if I brought up the obscure shit that I like nobody would reply anyway.

Nobody here has an opinion on Norvell W Page's The Spider or Edge by Terry Harknett. sffg is a trash general purely for asking about when Malazan gets good. get over it faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:49:39 2023 No.22321887 >>22321880 >/sffg/ is only for shitposting! >buh buh buh but I'M not the problem!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 17:02:08 2023 No.22321926 >>22321880 >Edge by Terry Harknett. Is it Kino?

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 17:12:32 2023 No.22321962

>>22321926
Yea, in the last book I read he trips a woman down a cliffside and lets her die so he can get away from lawmen. It's full of gratuitous action scenes and Edge is a cold badass. The writing is very to the point, which keeps me hooked. This stuff was written purely to sell and entertain Men in the 70s. Would make for a good TV show. There's was a pilot made already but it didn't get the tone right.
sneed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 17:28:18 2023 No.22321997 >>22321962 >he trips a woman down a cliffside and lets her die so he can get away from lawmen Lmao Literally me when playing morrowind/oblivion

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 17:42:19 2023 No.22322030 >>22321997 >Having woman in your party nvgm

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 17:44:08 2023 No.22322036

>>22321962
>This stuff was written purely to sell and entertain Men in the 70s.
Check out Able Team #8: Army of Devils. It's from the 80s but reads like it's from the 70s. Ultra right-wing masculine kino. You don't need to read the previous 7 books either to know what's happening since it's a standalone story.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 17:47:07 2023 No.22322042 >>22321664 Jesus Christ you people are such pussies. The only novel that’s ever made me physically cry was Flowers for Algernon because my grandmother had Alzheimer’s.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 17:48:54 2023 No.22322047 >>22322036 nice, this sounds good. will report back

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 17:50:52 2023 No.22322057 >>22322047 Based.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 18:00:42 2023 No.22322084 >>22322042 Faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 18:00:53 2023 No.22322085 >>22322042 >novel I think the short story is the better version. More of a gut punch. The novel dragged it out too long.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 18:12:05 2023 No.22322117 >>22322047 Also if you're not a poorfag and don't mind reading physical books then check out the books here for more politically incorrect kino. https://tocsinpress.com/ I personally recommend The Undertaker series.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 18:19:28 2023 No.22322130 >>22319381 >Last book Light bringer >Current book Winter's Heart >Next book Unsure, maybe between two fires.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 18:25:43 2023 No.22322140 File: 176 KB, 556x790, 1591233561255.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22321880 I am glad you mentioned this. Love finding new old school westerns. Thanks nigga appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 18:32:02 2023 No.22322156 >>22321664 Gaia should have kill Diomedes and Darrow, the Moon Lords should have rally behind Lysander and exterminated the daughters of Athena and the Volk. I dream of a kino ending where the Society wins in the end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 18:42:47 2023 No.22322171 >>22322140 Based Jerusalem Man chad.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:08:57 2023 No.22322255
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>>22319381
> Oathbringer pt 2
Absolute trash, Sanderson is a hack, dropped the series
> Unfinished tales
Cant believe I slept on this one for so long, Tuor's journey to Gondolin might be my favourite thing Tolkien wrote, very disappointed it got cut from the Silmarillion.
> le morte d'Arthur
Been sitting on my shelf for a while, looks good, hope it is good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:22:40 2023 No.22322303 >>22322042 I literally couldn't even finish Algernon. The idea of reading along as someone's mental state deteriorates was so horrifying, I just dropped it as soon as it became clear what was about to happen to him

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:25:30 2023 No.22322308 >>22322303 Why?

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:27:12 2023 No.22322312

>>22319429
Stormrage wasn't what I'm looking for in a book so I dropped it. Ordered Well of Eternity from the library instead, which I previously started and liked better but had to return before I could really get into it.

I'm about 15 pages into Nightside and it reads like I know and love from Wolfe. Super looking forward to it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:27:41 2023 No.22322316 >>22322156 >t. faggot

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:33:50 2023 No.22322339

>>22319959
I agree with some caveats. Generally a bad book or series doesn't actually "get good". However, I don't think it's reasonable to expect a book to maintain the same level of quality throughout. There are going to be parts that are better and worse than one another and that's mostly unavoidable in any book, not just genre fiction. Part of a book beong less good does not make those parts bad.

Urth isn't a bad book by any means, it's just that the first bit is less good than the rest, and the style is different if you're coming directly from it's predecessor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:34:36 2023 No.22322343 >>22322042 >Psycopath zoomer can't form an emotional connection to art SAD! Many such cases.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:39:51 2023 No.22322354

>>22322156
Frankly, I somewhat agree. If it weren’t for Darrow specifically I would also root for the Society. In fact, until he killed one of my favorite characters at the end I quite liked Lysander and hoped he would succeed in some way. The Society with its strict hierarchy and hyper-specialization is a good system, it’s just that the living conditions for the lower colors were intolerable. I’m also in favor of a crazy, unexpected ending because it gets annoying if the “good guys“ just win by default at the end. And I’m fairly certain that Darrow is unfortunately going to die before everything fully settles down anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:46:19 2023 No.22322373 >>22319692 I get that making it explicitly like videogames appeals to teenage boys more but there's nothing else to the genre. It's just progression fantasy with more annoying constraints.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:51:10 2023 No.22322384 File: 30 KB, 495x433, 54454545454545.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rec me a good standalone fantasy book I'm tired of endless fucking series

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:51:59 2023 No.22322386 >>22320737 pure kino.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:54:38 2023 No.22322392 >>22322384 What kind of fantasy?

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:55:25 2023 No.22322397

>>22322384
Curse of Chalion has sequels but it can be read standalone and they're all their own stories, they just have the same setting and a few overlapping characters.
Ka
Wyvern (arguably historical fiction but it's fantastical anyway)
I liked Talion: Revenant at the time but can't really recall anything except surface details now

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:03:29 2023 No.22322411 >>22322406 >yfw I'm the one who introduced this book to the general

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:04:59 2023 No.22322418 >>22322411 it was me

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:08:41 2023 No.22322435 >>22322418 No it wasn't, asshole.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:20:01 2023 No.22322471 File: 3.03 MB, 1740x1667, 1674796887645737.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22320737 Mediocre tier author who created a world larger than he could chew.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:27:37 2023 No.22322496 File: 113 KB, 643x1000, 71PA2QaggML._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22322384 Dark Moon by David Gemmel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:29:34 2023 No.22322501 >>22322496 I love Gemmell, but this one kinda sucks. He's written much better standalones.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:32:31 2023 No.22322510 >>22322501 >He's written much better standalones. Like? Actually haven't read much if his other work, but I enjoy schizo character which is why I loved Dark Moon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:34:39 2023 No.22322517 >>22319518 I was considering reading this (not because of your spam) but I'm just utterly bored of dark/underground settings Have some balls and set your webnovel slop in a real setting instead of a playground.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:36:47 2023 No.22322524 >>22322510 Yikes, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:38:53 2023 No.22322530 >>22322510 Not Gemmell, but BleakWarrior is pure schizo.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:41:50 2023 No.22322538

>>22319381
I finished Radix, I didn't understand the ending. I thought Sumner got over his angst while he was training with the tribes-people, but by the end he's suicidal again.
Is it about the "God-Mind" not needing it's "Shadow-self" anymore?
Or am I reading too much into it and it's just that he misses his son?

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 21:02:50 2023 No.22322603
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>>22319396

Its an interesting work that has some neat ideas that are padded out extensively. I will not judge its prose because its a translation, and therefore inherently compromised, but its not very good at convincing you to read further. As well the author does have extremely weird characterizations of people that I don't know if they are bad or if the perspective he comes from is sincerely alien to me.

The concepts it introduces are very interesting and a compelling argument for why we do need competent diversity in SF&F. I don't think westerners could think of the wallfacers, for example. The core twist of the series that I think propels the series into being relevant beyond being a dark first contact story has been done before, although this time the imagery is much more visceral. I would compare it to The Killing Star if you want a more hard sci-fi take on the concept. On the whole its not a bad series and it actually provides a sustainable concept of where modern science-fiction can go, but its bogged down by far too much weight and time spent on things I don't care about, including the characters.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 21:28:04 2023 No.22322677 >>22322343 I bet you cried when your daddy molested you too

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 21:45:13 2023 No.22322724 >>22321072 i thought it was really weird for there to suddenly be a "counter to the willow way" when darrow in dark age is still just casually chopping up olympic knights and stuff at least that duel of his was kind of interesting I suppose

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 21:55:28 2023 No.22322761 >>22322471 >Space trilogy lower than Malazan. This feels offensive.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 21:59:43 2023 No.22322780

>>22322724
That duel was absolutely crazy. I was howling and beating my chest throughout the entire thing. I also wish we’d have gotten to see more of Atlas. That guy was a menace like few characters in fiction are. Same with the Abomination. It’s too bad he didn’t make a single appearance in the entire book.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 22:01:52 2023 No.22322791

>>22322780
>Same with the Abomination. It’s too bad he didn’t make a single appearance in the entire book.
Thank god for that. The Jackal was already overused. Not a fan of a clone of his running around.
>>22322724
The bigger issue in his duel against Apollo was that his body was in terrible shape.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 22:06:48 2023 No.22322814 About to start in on a novel described as Arabian Nights meets Clark Ashton Smith. This should be kino.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 22:40:12 2023 No.22322924 does /sffg/ like Cixin Liu? any recommendations for a series with a similar level of expanding scale? doesn't have to be SF

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 22:54:18 2023 No.22322977 >>22322418 >>22322411 It was actually me. Book is 10/10

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:50:59 2023 No.22323167

>>22319648
Witcher Saga 1-5 is fine, if you don't care for WoT's pacing by the end of book 3 it only gets slower from there, Closest comparison to any of those games is Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun or Malazan, Progression Fantasy as a genre tends to fit the JRPG bill, there's Elder Scrolls lit out there but try the web comic Kill 6 Billion Demons, Neither GRRM or Rothfuss will finish their respective books and are bad authors, You should stop with God Emperor of Dunc, Yes, Maybe, Literally all Japanese and Korean supernatural fiction also China is invading the market, Metro has a book series but maybe Lucifer's Hammer and The Stand for Fallout but you'll never find the same comedy, I think Gentleman Bastard has cuckoldry if you want mainline but try Sentar's Mana Beast, yes everything outside of mainline contemporary fiction and harem litrpgs, never, never, yes but its scope is extremely narrow if you want to know about the god emperor and his son's then you might as well raw dog it into the Horus heresy titles and MajorKill videos, yes almost every Chinese wuxia title is chock full of nubile maidens that weigh less than a stone, yes almost every woman-written fantasy of the current era that dominate Hugo awards try Jemisin, Joe Abercrombie tends to write manly men well enough, Lady because Croaker elevates her, Midway into book one when the assault of that spherical city in the sky occurs and it throws you into trench warfare insanity with no explanation, go back and get your GED, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't and Jim Butcher ruined Dresden by watching endgame too much so maybe he should kill himself, it doesn't, Dunsany, yes but its always written like dogshit so you should stick with GoT.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:55:24 2023 No.22323180 >>22323167 Humans certainly outclass AI in terms of writing like this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 00:04:23 2023 No.22323207 >>22322814 >doesn't mention the title retard. never come back. fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 00:12:01 2023 No.22323225 >>22323207 I never mention the titles of books you actually have to buy to read since all of you are poorfags.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 00:22:06 2023 No.22323253

>>22321072
My gripe is that it feels like Pierce got lazy. Dropped interesting plotlines like Lyria's parasite and Oculus, then started to pull deus ex machinas out of his ass with the Daughters of Athena and the genetic bioweapon. Lysander's shift into the main antagonist felt unconvincing for me as well. He's going to starve billions in the Rim because he doesn't want to grovel and apologize to the Moon Lords for not telling them the truth about Atlas? Like what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 00:26:03 2023 No.22323265 >>22323225 id buy it

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 00:52:16 2023 No.22323333 File: 96 KB, 672x519, 1689000420462357.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22323274 >he actually paid money for this shit i'm gonna read it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 00:52:57 2023 No.22323337 >>22323333 nice digits queer

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 01:10:20 2023 No.22323367

>>22323253
>Dropped interesting plotlines like Lyria's parasite and Oculus
I wasn't particularly interested in either of these. So I had no problem with them being dropped.
>then started to pull deus ex machinas out of his ass with the Daughters of Athena and the genetic bioweapon.
I'll agree that both of these were kinda dumb.
>Lysander's shift into the main antagonist felt unconvincing for me as well.
I dunno. It seemed completely consistent with me. I think people were far to forgiving for Lysander and believed his self-justifications for his lust for power. Personally, I've always found him to be very self entitled, arrogant, and overly proud.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 01:16:51 2023 No.22323383 File: 12 KB, 183x276, download (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm reading this. So far, so comfy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 01:51:33 2023 No.22323482 >>22323383 oof

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 02:32:42 2023 No.22323640

>>22319381
>last book you read
Cyberiad. Absolutely hilarious. Been a while since a book got a laugh out of me. What other Lem should I check out?

>current book you are reading
Last Light of The Sun.
I don't know about this one chief, it's not quite grabbing me the same the other Kay novels I've read did.
>next book you plan to read
I still need to finish the Bridge trilogy. I really do like Gibson, even if he cannot write proper endings.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 02:34:31 2023 No.22323652

Hi guys. Not a regular here. I usually use IRC and the #bookz channel to download books but lately it seems like a lot of stuff I want to read isn't on there, and one of their bots seems to be down too. Are there any other similar channels? I tend to read kind of niche scifi from the 60s to the 80s if that matters. Also looking for James Tiptree Jr's bibliography in particular.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 02:37:54 2023 No.22323662 >>22323652 answer >>22319381 and you may receive help

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 02:48:43 2023 No.22323695 >>22323652 Libgen is your best bet, make sure you use the fiction version.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 03:00:32 2023 No.22323734 >>22323695 I don't understand how to use this website

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 03:03:19 2023 No.22323749 >>22323734 nvm I figured it out but it doesn't have what I want

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 03:03:47 2023 No.22323750 >>22323652 Type in Anna's archive on Google

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 03:38:20 2023 No.22323872 I want to read something with relentless action and escalation. The old pulps I had hoped would scratch that itch but they're kind of disappointing. Anyone have any recommendations? I don't care about genre.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 03:40:21 2023 No.22323884 >>22323872 Cradle unironically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 03:47:58 2023 No.22323907 >>22323749 try lemonparty.org, I think that will have what you're looking for

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 04:09:15 2023 No.22323960

I'm really thorn about this. The prose is shit, as expect of a Chinese translated novel. However there's some interesting reflections and moments that arise from the storytelling.
At the same time, there's some boring stretches where nothing of consequence happens. The book goes into Shounen territory several times.
I'm halfway done, but I think I'll put it down for a month, just so I don't get burnout.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 04:10:17 2023 No.22323964 >>22323960 I'm talking about I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 04:15:39 2023 No.22323975
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>Title: Nightwatch
>Author: Sergei Lukyanenko
>Synopsis;
Guy tries to do something bad, ends up having it blow back in his face. get's initiated in the occult world of the Nightwatch. taught that there is 2 sides, the Nightwatch which keeps watch over the night and the Daywatch which keeps watch over the day. these two groups are comprised of warlocks, werewolves, vampires, and a myriad of other supernatural beings fighting between the sides of Good and Evil.
the gloom is a very interesting aspect of the storyline.
5/5 series.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 04:18:44 2023 No.22323982 [SPOILER]

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>Title: The Lathe of Heaven: A Novel
>Author: Ursula K. Le Guin
>Synopsis;
Guy discovers that whatever he dreams becomes his waking reality. his psychologist see's this in action, begins to use the guy for his own personal goals.
One spoiler, they try to end racism and end up making everyone a weird grey color. this doesn't end racism and just causes more caste system influence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 04:20:46 2023 No.22323988 >>22323982 This was my least favorite LeGuin. I don't like her fantasy at all. She's better at sci-fi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 04:25:25 2023 No.22324001 >>22323988 this is sci-fi, and I haven't read anything else of her's but I enjoyed this book. it's not a fast read but it's an enjoyable one (for me).

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 04:33:33 2023 No.22324029

>>22319957
>You'd think there would be more creativity since there is no barriers beyond the author's imagination, yet everything seems to blend together.
Wrotten word doesn't have such an emotional impact as music or image do. That's just the nature of language, it's a representation of the world that you cannot actually see and experience.
>I want to find something that has creatively suspenseful scenarios,
Oh so you're talking about that. This is the problem with all art in our time. There's nothing original and even if something appears it will be turned into a cliche immediately because there are hundreds of authors who can only mix and match ideas from the common pool. This is the same with pictures and music.
>Why do people find it so difficult to find something similar to something like JOJO in terms of creative suspense scenarios with characters using their ingenuity and absurd abilities? or Hunter X Hunter with the intricate plotting of its current arc.
Those are outliers. Just like Tolkien, Howard and Lovecraft were in fantastic fiction. Now all the creativity just doesn't have a place to appear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 04:37:08 2023 No.22324045 >>22324001 >>22323988 I'm reading Lavinia and I like it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 04:48:39 2023 No.22324083 File: 144 KB, 525x1281, pepppp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22323982 >sff woman author >writes about (ending) racism checks out

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 04:54:47 2023 No.22324101 >>22324029 >Written word doesn't have such an emotional impact as music or image do. What in the world... Ever heard of poetry?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 05:01:08 2023 No.22324115 >>22324101 It still has the same mechanism of influencing the mind. It's just a lot better at what it does than prose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 05:31:37 2023 No.22324157 >>22319371 Faggots need to read REAL literature

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 06:05:59 2023 No.22324214 What good science fiction books would you recommend?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 06:20:18 2023 No.22324232 >>22324214 R Scott Bakker

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 06:21:16 2023 No.22324234 >>22323750 Thank you

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 06:24:19 2023 No.22324247
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>>22319371
How can fantasy fags even compete against Erikson? His prose is amazing. His poetry interspersed throughout is lyrical. The characterisation and worldbuilding is second to none. He blew the fuck out fantasy years ago and nothing good has come since. Name one fantasy series that didn’t just die within a few years. I’ll wait. Malazan reigns supreme. If you write fantasy in the current year, no one cares about you. They also expect direct to television adaptations of your longwinded “epics,” or it’ll be forgotten entirely.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 06:28:27 2023 No.22324258

>last book you read
Authority. Read this right after Annihilation, which I thought was while not groundbreaking, quite good. VanderMeer is an above average writer most of the time, though I think the fact that Authority was longer let some of his inadequacies and irritating idiosyncrasies harder to ignore. Sometimes his writing starts visibly dripping with his Gen X sanctimoniousness. I'm a sucker for that kind of premise though so I mostly liked the clandestine organisation bureaucracy thing, even though I think what he ultimately does with it doesn't end up blowing my mind. It's nice enough but I'll probably wait a while before reading the third one.
>current book you are reading
Pale Fire. Lolita made me madly want to read more of Nabokov, been trying to get my hands on a copy of his stories too.
>next book you plan to read
Probably Soldier of the Mist, which comes highly recommended to me by a friend who I respect a lot. Never read anything by Wolfe before.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 06:29:14 2023 No.22324262

>>22319396
Not really sure what you mean by modern sci-drivel. If you mean near-future sci-fi which I hate.. No, it's not that. It starts out near future in the first book, but rapidly progresses into the more distant future.

I really enjoyed this series even though it has some serious flaws as another poster mentioned. If you like "big idea" or harder sci-fi then it's great for that. The author hits you with this big ideas one after another, and the plot keeps escalating to crazier heights... But it's stiffly written (And I don't think it's JUST the translation to blame) and the characters are all pretty boring and 2Dimensional. But, it's not a character-driven story. It's an idea-driven story, and it's so dense with novel ideas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 06:35:00 2023 No.22324272 File: 48 KB, 1114x435, 4985E05E-C9A5-44BE-B8ED-30B9EBFAE55E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Canadian chads can’t stop winning

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 06:51:02 2023 No.22324306 File: 183 KB, 2111x1107, malazan-word-count.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22324247 Easily the most impressive thing about him was he somehow released ten books in just over a decade and they're not short.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 07:06:53 2023 No.22324341 >>22324247 This guy is so mediocre that I've never even heard a single thing from his fandom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 07:09:51 2023 No.22324346 File: 426 KB, 1080x1920, 6E335985-9A4C-465E-B565-6B94E7FF19F7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22324341 This prose is better than any Brandon Sandershit. Seethe more.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 07:12:37 2023 No.22324357

Currently reading the Second Apocalypse series, about a third through the first book. So far, the prose is quite tight outside of Kellhus’ POV (of whom we only see in the Prologue so far and nowhere else). The Nonman encounter seemed abrupt, like a random hostile NPC suddenly attacking you in a video game; but given how they’re described, I suppose the one Kellhus first encounters is borderline one. So far enjoying the book, but the mass usage of contractives and somewhat modern structure of the dialogue takes me a bit out of it. When does the mass homo buttrape appear?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 07:18:02 2023 No.22324373 >>22324346 Yes, and it's still mediocre.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 07:20:02 2023 No.22324376 >>22324357 The Nonmen are a special bunch. You will read more about them in the second half of the series.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 07:28:26 2023 No.22324392 >>22324373 Erikson is fantasy’s William Faulkner

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 07:51:55 2023 No.22324438 >>22324341 it's been over 20 years. also, the only thing one hears about malazan is how hard the first book filters new readers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 07:52:43 2023 No.22324440 >>22324438 > it's been over 20 years. Thank you for proving my point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 09:21:11 2023 No.22324612 >>22319396 my wife is reading it and keeps telling mw about what's happening. makes no sense to me but she seems go like it. for reference to her tastes she loves Annihilation and stuff like the Martian.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 09:29:35 2023 No.22324639 >>22324612 What’s it like having a wife? What’s it like having a soft woman you can hug and kiss anytime you want? Any sff books about this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 09:48:12 2023 No.22324677 >>22324639 The Wandering Inn

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 10:24:14 2023 No.22324733 Bakker is king.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 10:29:34 2023 No.22324740 >>22324357 Fucking hell, stop believing that the book is full of gay sex. That is a meme created by those who do not possess the intellect to appreciate Bakker's novels

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 11:39:51 2023 No.22324858 Is the kingkiller chronicle any good? The only thing i know is the meme cuck excerpt, and it kinda puts me off of even trying the series. That and knowing that it won't be finished.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 11:46:01 2023 No.22324864

>read first mention of Moenghus
>he buckbreaks a mighty barbarian chieftain as a twink
>all to secure his freedom and possibly just for fun

I’ve now read halfway through The Darkness That Comes Before, and I can already tell that Moenghus’ feats will probably only get more ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 11:48:33 2023 No.22324868 >>22324858 if you go in with the mindset that the entire thing is just the author's weird self insert, everything will make sense mildly entertaining after that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 12:50:07 2023 No.22324988 Are there any fantasy novels that predominantly feature barbarians that isn't conan?

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:08:09 2023 No.22325022

>>22321429
>>22322608
Why did you niggers never mention that RI is unfinished and will probably never be finished because chairman Xi got tired of author constantly repeating himself?
Anyway, just finished what is currently available of RI and read Cradle series before because of you cunts so now you get to read my shit opinion.
Cradle is the goyslop of literature, light and easy to read, held my attention, but in retrospect I realize that even supposedly grand events lack gravity, fights between monarchs or dreadgod attacks just don't leave much of an impression even the interstellar level conflicts fail to match large scale combat scenes from Malazan, Abercrombie or even HH novels.
RI starts off rough, feels like the first third is 40% reminders of prior events or concepts, eventually though author got better and I got acclimated to this style so I rather liked it, despite Fang Yuan constantly getting new powers they rarely feel like asspulls, his schemes and plots are entertaining and overall combat feels consistent 90% of the time, it's a pity we'll probably never see the ending.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:10:35 2023 No.22325025 >>22324988 Fafhrd is a barbarian.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:23:04 2023 No.22325040 >>22324258 Soldier of the Mist is one of my absolute favorite novels. Its a ton of fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:30:40 2023 No.22325060 >>22322471 gormenghast is very easy to read, not even close to book of the new sun

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:32:34 2023 No.22325064 File: 212 KB, 650x782, comic533.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] need a good infiltration espionage sci-fi story something like metal gear but with more cool tech

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:39:54 2023 No.22325085

>>22324258
>last book you read
death's end, some cool ideas but the worst in the trilogy

>current book you are reading
promise of blood, it's okay so far but nothing amazing
like a more boring version of full metal alchemist

>next book you plan to read
starship troopers or collapsing empire

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:50:59 2023 No.22325099

I know this will sound strange, but can you recommend some sci-fi stuff that is more about characters and situations than descriptions of fantastic things?
I'm asking this because my brain is completely damaged and I have a really hard time imagining things I'm reading. So, stuff mostly focused on characters are fine for me, but too much descriptions completely destroys me.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 14:04:16 2023 No.22325114

Harry the Heir will take Sansa's virginity which will piss Littlefinger off because he was saving and grooming her for himself and arranged to have him killed in an accident somehow he will then exploit his death to somehow get out of the deal he made with the knights of the Vale and to kill off a few rivals here and there who might want power within the Vale to make himself dominant ruler there

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 14:26:31 2023 No.22325168 >>22324639 Lol you clearly got the wrong idea, the moment you marry her you legally become her provider, expect another 6 month happy life and after nagging will start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 14:32:32 2023 No.22325186 >>22325114 Literal womens soap drama but in medieval times, can't believe I wasted my time watching this garbage tv series

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 14:59:12 2023 No.22325239

I've read the following from Asimov, the first five Foundation books, I, Robot. The End of Eternity, would I be completely okay going into Robots and Empire or should I check out the Robot Stories + Caves of Steel before readin that one? Robots and Empire feels like the tail end of his robot stories

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 15:00:21 2023 No.22325243

>>22321827
Just wanted to follow up and thank you for the recommendation bro. Ended up reading half of God Stalk yesterday. It was exactly what I was looking for. Big fan of Jame. Have you read the rest of the series? I saw there were some mixed reviews of the next books saying they focus too much on the boring brother.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 15:01:14 2023 No.22325246 what's a good sf about a spess voyage where the main focus of the story is just the operation of the ship?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 15:02:26 2023 No.22325252 >>22325246 2001? Main character joke they are just janitors to the ship but Clarke goes into full detail about the mechanics and how HAL operates everything

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 15:24:31 2023 No.22325315

>>22320737
It's a story told on a massive scale, so don't expect any instant gratification, or even moderately fast gratification. What I love about the series is that it's like a big jigsaw puzzle where you don't know what the larger picture is. You just piece it together from the information you're given and smaller sections start to make sense, until eventually the entire picture becomes clear. However this is all made difficult because of the way the story is told.

The first book in particular doesn't give you a lot of exposition to introduce you to the world or the story, in fact there's pretty much none of that at all. You're dropped into the middle of an ongoing conflict and have to find your bearings as the perspective jumps around between characters. Books can also jump between entirely different casts of characters in entirely new places. It takes a long time before you are able to tell how these things are all connected.

I think the first book will act as a good test to see if you find this worth diving into all the way. The books after it aren't as disorienting, as you gradually accumulate knowledge and familiarity with things, but many people drop Malazan Book of the Fallen at book one, and not even very far into it. I'd say the other great filter is book 5, because by that point you're just starting to get comfortable with the characters who've shown up in several books and think you have a handle on the setting and it throws you a massive curve ball.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 15:33:02 2023 No.22325345

>>22320737
The first book is by far the best. After that it stays amazing until book four. Book five is complete junk but it picks up again with six to eight. Nine and ten are complete disappointments. All in all it’s a pretty solid fantasy series. I’m probably going to start reading it a second time now because you made me think about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 15:41:33 2023 No.22325361 >>22325345 >Book five is complete junk It's literally the second best book in the series, after book 2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 15:48:09 2023 No.22325381 >>22322538 God this book was disappointing. I think it is just the latter. The book started off so well and by the end it is just him picking up power after power like a self insert anime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 15:53:29 2023 No.22325393 >>22324306 Recounting a long running D&D campaign has its advantages.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 16:11:33 2023 No.22325460
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Has anyone here read Deva Zan? It's a book by Yositaka Amano, the illustrator of VHD and a bunch of other light novels. Does the book have nothing going for it, or is it a misunderstood masterpiece to be read within a certain context and mindset?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 16:17:34 2023 No.22325478 File: 1.91 MB, 2054x2000, 1690820193974.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hiiiii! I'm Georgette and I go by She/Her pronouns!! Please be kind I'm new here and suuuuper excited to chat with you folx!

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 16:21:28 2023 No.22325497

Finished the audiobook of The Hobbit, re-recorded by Andy Serkis. It's fantastically well read, but the book itself is something. Meant to be a children's book, it still conveys itself as a true written memoir from a kindly species called a hobbit. You can easily buy into and invest in our semi-unreliable narrator, limited by his understanding of the world and reservations to adventuring. Filling in details after the fact while maintaining his story. Refreshing, and made me tear up with Thorin, Fili, and Kili even with their demises moved mostly off-screen.

9/10 will read to the kids when they're older. I am starting Fellowship this week and looking forward to it immensely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 16:28:30 2023 No.22325517 >>22325497 Imo It's pretty cool how the book is treated as an object within the world it takes place in. Tolkien also had a comfy level of autism when it came to worldbuilding.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 16:54:01 2023 No.22325589
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I just finished reading Titus Groan, and I really loved it. Should I read Gormenghast right away? Is it also worth it to go for Titus Alone? I've heard that Gormenghast is great, while Titus Alone is more like insane ramblings that don't have much to do with the previous two novels. Is that true?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 17:01:30 2023 No.22325625 >>22325361 I did not experience it that way at all. Maybe I’ll see it differently if I read it a second time. The first time around I even skipped a lot of it because I couldn’t bear it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 17:02:33 2023 No.22325630 >>22325460 Sauce for the pic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 17:39:26 2023 No.22325762 >>22324214 Corpus Chrome Inc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 17:40:29 2023 No.22325765 >>22324988 Imaro

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 17:40:35 2023 No.22325766 >>22325630 Try reading the post again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 17:41:48 2023 No.22325771 >>22325099 Automaton by T.R. Hudson

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 19:48:33 2023 No.22326164 >>22321818 >the author is the mc Nice reading comprehension, retard

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 19:56:38 2023 No.22326188
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>last book you read
Legend by David Gemmell. Finally got around to reading this book, read The King Beyond The Gate a year ago. Borrowed them from my local library but liked them so much that i'm planning on buying copies for my own bookshelf too. The way Gemmell writes is really inspiring. Like he gets so much done with way less words than most authors.

>current book you are reading
The Soulforge by Margaret Weis.
Not much to say, reading through the Dragonlance books of my childhood.
>next book you plan to read
Brothers in Arms.
Don't remember anything from this book either. Hope there is some mercenary stuff cause that is something that definitely interest me right now. Plan on reading The Black Company books in the near future, shame they seem to be pretty hard to get in my country,
have to order them from another library.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 20:28:54 2023 No.22326275
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An anon recommended me this last thread.

I can't get over how dry and repetitive the prose is. I don't get it, all I can find are people raving about how great this book is.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 20:30:01 2023 No.22326278

>>22326188
>Legend by David Gemmell. Finally got around to reading this book, read The King Beyond The Gate a year ago. Borrowed them from my local library but liked them so much that i'm planning on buying copies for my own bookshelf too. The way Gemmell writes is really inspiring. Like he gets so much done with way less words than most authors.
Based.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 20:52:26 2023 No.22326363 >>22326164 You’re telling me the MC is white?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 20:58:58 2023 No.22326393 >>22324858 See >>22319648

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 21:00:11 2023 No.22326400 File: 664 KB, 800x450, Book shit copy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Best Forgotten Realms book(s)? Preferably something stand-alone or a simple trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 21:00:29 2023 No.22326402 >>22326188 >That booba on kitiara No wonder Tanis almost turns into her sex slave

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 21:03:15 2023 No.22326423 >>22326164 >t. retard Every NK Jemsin MC is black. Every one of her books is about racial prejudice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 21:08:38 2023 No.22326454 >>22326400 Hello fellow BG3 chad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 21:14:30 2023 No.22326477 >>22323274 Almost halfway through this and it's literally just the MC going into the story's equivalent of Hell and describing everything he sees and encounters so far. It's gotten quite tedious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 21:28:16 2023 No.22326539 >>22325625 >skipped two of the best characters in the entire series I bet you hated Iskarl Pust too.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 21:54:55 2023 No.22326659
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>>22325243
>Have you read the rest of the series?
Almost, haven't read the last two.
>I saw there were some mixed reviews of the next books saying they focus too much on the boring brother
Dark of the Moon has dual Pov, and her brother is the main character for almost the entire book. The rest of the series has Jame as the mc again.
>>22326400
I'm phoneposting so i can't list them all but i have a big list of my fav FG books/series, if the thread is still up when i get home i'll post it here or in the next thread.
Sneed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 21:55:24 2023 No.22326661 File: 301 KB, 1000x800, 675.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22326659 >i'll post it here or in the next thread. Thanks, bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 22:08:59 2023 No.22326712 >>22326659 Based, thanks

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 22:18:52 2023 No.22326743

Any fellow fantaboomers around? I'm looking for something that has that olde feel to it. Doesn't need to be old, just use that style.
Something like Crown of Stars, Indigo, Memory Sorrow and Thorn, Sword of Shannara, etc. The classic fantasy feeling, but with writing quality that at least tries to be above soulless D&D-tier drivel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 22:22:07 2023 No.22326760 File: 203 KB, 660x1000, 169026949534815193.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22326743 Thomas Covenant

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 22:24:38 2023 No.22326772 >>22326760 I loved that series, it definitely fits the bill. The first few books of Gor were surprisingly well-written as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 22:41:49 2023 No.22326834 File: 166 KB, 1200x1811, R.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is great if you like realistic fantasy, complicated characters.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 22:43:51 2023 No.22326844
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This is a 'game', but basically a choose your own adventure book. Excellent writing, great characters, interesting plot and systems as well as tragic endings. Think 30years war porn.
>but not actually porn

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 22:46:09 2023 No.22326855 >>22326400 speaking of which, when is the next Legend of Drizzt's booking coming up? Gotta know if they get rid of menzoberranzan

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 23:07:26 2023 No.22326935

can you guys help me, there was a book I started reading a long time ago but I can't remember the name of it, I wanted to finish it finally.

it's about a guy who finds this perfect society but through his presence it becomes corrupt and terrible and by the end of it he begs them to kill him for what has happened to them but they don't even realize how bad they are by then and are just confused by his request.

that's about all I remember, does anyone know it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 23:11:10 2023 No.22326954 File: 101 KB, 622x1000, 9781466806528.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22326935

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 23:18:07 2023 No.22326988

>>22326954
that's pretty close but I think this one was much more fantasy oriented, I don't know if the society in question in the book was even human, I don't remember if it said.

I just know the theme of the novel was supposed to highlight how man could be so much better but also so much worse than what they are.

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 23:27:06 2023 No.22327021
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>>22326743
Boomerfantasy:
Seven Citadels by Geraldine Harris (criminally underrated even among boomers)
Darwath
Blackbird series by Freda Warrington
Dragon Prince by Melanie Rawn (Sioned best wife)
The Last of the Renshai
Valdemar
The Fortress series by CJ Cherryh
Book of Swords and Book of Lost Swords by Fred Saberhagen
Chronicles of the Cheysuli and "Tigre and Del" by Jennifer Roberson
Cycle of Fire by Janny Wurts
Everything Dave Duncan ever wrote
The Fionavar Tapestry by GGK
Riddle-Master of hed
Deverry by Katharine Kerr
Winter of the World series by Michael Scott Rohan
Modern Fantasy that feels like boomerfantasy:
The EA Cycle by David Zindell
Tales of Einarinn by Juliet McKenna
DragonCrown War series
Obsidian Chronicles
Swans War/The One Kingdom by Sean Russell
Three Worlds Cycle by Ian Irvine

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 23:36:38 2023 No.22327052 >>22327021 >all those girls lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 23:51:16 2023 No.22327091 >>22326935 Scavenger by KKK.J Parker?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 23:51:20 2023 No.22327092 >>22327021 >Book of Swords and Book of Lost Swords by Fred Saberhagen based. add Runelords by David Farland

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 23:54:41 2023 No.22327104 File: 3.88 MB, 640x800, 1690242114674727.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22327052 Yes, strong feminist women are based

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 00:15:42 2023 No.22327162 File: 561 KB, 1125x1282, FBF2E46D-C705-4CAC-A07F-30563E7F7F09.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I need me some real thick women representation in fantasy. Slay Kween.

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 00:29:18 2023 No.22327210

>>22327021
Thanks a ton for this list, anon! I've read a few and they were all good, so I'm going to dive in.

>>22327092
I just finished the fourth book of Runelords and it was a very interesting premise but it often felt like there was no planning at all, so the pacing was off. An important event in the kingdom would occur over five pages and then there would be a 30 page chapter where he randomly heads out into the woods and does something quite insignificant in comparison.
I heard the fourth book is a good place to stop. How do you feel about the later books?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 00:30:41 2023 No.22327212 Am I just being filtered or is Pandora's Star very boring for the first 400 pages or so?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 00:32:09 2023 No.22327216 >>22327212 >Hamilton If you aren't into it, you aren't into it. He needs an editor badly, Night's Dawn could've easily been 1000 pages and much better.

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 00:43:31 2023 No.22327253

>>22327216
I do like alot of the concepts and tech that he comes up with, and some of the characters like Kime and Myo I enjoy reading but I feel like he has too many seemingly unrelated subplots like the murder mystery or that one rich chicks post rejuve vacation where she fucks some native kid. I'll probably still finish at least Pandora's Star but unless things pick up I'm not in a rush to get to Judas Unchained.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 00:58:55 2023 No.22327291 >>22327052 >”girls” Cringe

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:04:46 2023 No.22327313
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>>22319381
>last book you read
2001: A Space Odyssey
>current book you are reading
2010
>next book you plan to read
I really don't know if I should read the third book. People tend to think the third and fourth are not good. I am very much enjoying book two. Otherwise I've got a lot I can read. Use of Weapons, Authority (book 2; Vandermeer), some Zelanzy, some Mieville. Maybe Asmiov's Foundation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:14:58 2023 No.22327358 File: 180 KB, 902x1200, 1637302235612.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22327104 >>22327291 >t.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:15:56 2023 No.22327360 File: 400 KB, 1024x1280, 65540939_001_2a7a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22327253 >rich chicks fucks some native kid I will now read your book

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:19:06 2023 No.22327371 >>22324247 he comes off as a chubby chaser

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:20:19 2023 No.22327378 >>22326834 I've only read his Star Wars book, but it was great so why not. Added.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:23:49 2023 No.22327393 >>22325589 >Is that true Yes but it's still somewhat entertaining. The author's brain was half destroyed by early dementia at when he wrote it, so it's more of a delirious fever dream than a coherent story

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:26:10 2023 No.22327399 File: 358 KB, 939x3291, 168986774385368152.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22327162 That's the thinnest Tattersail I've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:28:19 2023 No.22327405 >>22326188 The black company books were great, read them all years ago and really enjoyed them

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:33:04 2023 No.22327417 File: 1.60 MB, 404x720, 1667600167842659.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22327399 Book-accurate tattersail

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:34:09 2023 No.22327422 File: 545 KB, 553x513, 1686735180917565.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22327358 Actually i look like this

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 01:59:55 2023 No.22327497 >>22319381 >last book you read Carnacki the Ghost Finder >current book you are reading The Darkness That Comes Before >next book you plan to read The Warrior Prophet

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 02:28:15 2023 No.22327569 >>22327091 That's not it either, maybe its just not the right kind of book for this thread, i will see if maybe i can find it elsewhere. Google isn't helping, but i will find it one day. Thanks for trying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 04:11:52 2023 No.22327785 >>22321277 Fuck Nineteen Adze Marry Three Seagrass Kill Twelve Azalea Book was enjoyable if a little slow. Interested in the sequel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 04:19:43 2023 No.22327802 >>22326935 >he begs them to kill him for what has happened White Knight Cuck by Stacey Roasties ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 04:34:24 2023 No.22327833 >>22326935 The Word for World is Forest

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 04:53:50 2023 No.22327875 >tfw you have a trillion books on backlog, but only want to read a series you've already read a dozen times

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 07:01:06 2023 No.22328105 >>22327210 >How do you feel about the later books? definitely stop at Book 4. i cant even articulate how retarded 5 and 6 were

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 07:27:38 2023 No.22328131 >>22327399 Is that really Tattersail? Wasn’t she in a different form by book three?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 08:43:36 2023 No.22328245 Does Apsalar / Sorry get fertile later on? Asking for a friend.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 08:54:35 2023 No.22328271 File: 37 KB, 480x640, AF428F0E-0439-4EEC-BDA0-7D6B4A3F0B38.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 09:00:18 2023 No.22328287 anyone read Hart's Hope? just got to the 12 yo rape scene.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 10:48:30 2023 No.22328447 >>22328287 >rape scene picked u- >animal torture for magic dropped

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 10:50:20 2023 No.22328455 >>22328447 baby eating too

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 12:25:55 2023 No.22328657 New bread is up >>22328631 >>22328631 >>22328631

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