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TRACTACUS LOGICO-PHILOSOPHICUS

>> No.2230769

1.1

The world is the totality of facts, not of things.

>> No.2230767

1

The world is everything that is the case.∗

>> No.2230775

1.11

The world is determined by the facts, and by these being all the facts.

>> No.2230776

I wish we could live in a world where all philosophers looked as good as Wittgenstein and they were the people on the covers of the tabloids.

>> No.2230779

1.12

For the totality of facts determines both what is the case, and also all that is not the case.

>> No.2230782

1.13

The facts in logical space are the world.

>> No.2230783

1.2

The world divides into facts.

>> No.2230785

1.21

Any one can either be the case or not be the case, and everything else remain the same.

>> No.2230788

2

What is the case, the fact, is the existence of atomic facts.

>> No.2230789

I'm pretty sure this book was satire. The whole thing is written through circular reasoning.

>> No.2230790

2.01

An atomic fact is a combination of objects (entities, things).

>> No.2230791

>>2230776

They wouldn't strictly be tabloids anymore. Although I too would love a world where 'Red-top' meant 'Philosophy Paper' not 'Naked women on page three'

>> No.2230792

2.011

It is essential to a thing that it can be a constituent part of an atomic fact.

>> No.2230807

2.012

In logic nothing is accidental: if a thing can occur in an atomic fact the possibility of that atomic fact must already be prejudged in the thing.

>> No.2230811

2.0121

It would, so to speak, appear as an accident, when to a thing that could exist alone on its own account, subsequently a state of affairs could be made to fit.

>> No.2230814

If things can occur in atomic facts, this possibility must already lie in them.

>> No.2230818

(A logical entity cannot be merely possible. Logic treats of every possibility, and all possibilities are its facts.) Just as we cannot think of spatial objects at all apart from space, or temporal objects apart from time, so we cannot think of any object apart from the possibility of its connexion with other things.

If I can think of an object in the context of an atomic fact, I cannot think of it apart from the possibility of this context.

>> No.2230820

2.0122

The thing is independent, in so far as it can occur in all possible circumstances, but this form of independence is a form of connexion with the atomic fact, a form of dependence. (It is impossible for words to occur in two different ways, alone and in the proposition.)

>> No.2230827

2.0123

If I know an object, then I also know all the possibilities of its occurrence in atomic facts.

(Every such possibility must lie in the nature of the object.) A new possibility cannot subsequently be found.

>> No.2230830

2.01231

In order to know an object, I must know not its external but all its internal qualities.

>> No.2230833

2.0124

If all objects are given, then thereby are all possible atomic facts also given.

>> No.2230849

Wait is this thread over?

>> No.2230855

>>2230849
flood detection

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2230878

OP is the object of this fictional conversation...

>> No.2230888

2.013

Every thing is, as it were, in a space of possible atomic facts. I can think of this space as empty, but not of the thing without the space.

>> No.2230893

2.0131

A spatial object must lie in infinite space. (A point in space is a place for an argument.)

A speck in a visual field need not be red, but it must have a colour; it has, so to speak, a colour space round it. A tone must have a pitch, the object of the sense of touch a hardness, etc.

>> No.2230898

2.014

Objects contain the possibility of all states of affairs.

>> No.2232165

2.0141

The possibility of its occurrence in atomic facts is the form of the object.

>> No.2232172

2.02

The object is simple.

>> No.2232219

Philosophy is so insular, how could anyone unfamiliar with the field get anything from Tractorish?

>> No.2232450

2.12

In which I make more baseless assertions that sound neat.