>He was an atheist >He loved Jews >He was a nihilist What are some other signals someone has never read him?

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Anonymous Sat Jul 22 10:14:36 2023 No.22292185 [Reply] [Original]

>He was an atheist
>He loved Jews
>He was a nihilist

What are some other signals someone has never read him?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 10:19:10 2023 No.22292195 >>22292185 He was an atheist, he was completely fine with Jews, he said himself he was a nihilist but aren’t we all? How do you grapple with these thoughts and not be a nihilist somewhat?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 10:19:34 2023 No.22292196 >>22292185 >he wasn’t an atheist The only theistic part of his work that I remember is that part about Dionysus in Beyond Good and Evil. The rest of the time he pretty much just shits on religion.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 10:20:35 2023 No.22292198

Whenever i see a liberal leftist adoring him. Is the funniest shit ever, but these people genuinely exists; i've seen someone that had old Neetzsche tattooed in his forearm. The guy was the epitome of slave morality and ressentment btw, also labeled himself as an "anti-fascist"

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Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:13:59 2023 No.22292332

>>22292196
>The only theistic part of his work
"This counsel, however, do I counsel to kings and churches, and to all that is weak with age or virtue—let yourselves be o’erthrown! That ye may again come to life, and that virtue—may come to you!—” "

"And just behold, my friends! Here where the tarantula’s den is, riseth aloft an ancient temple’s ruins—just behold it with enlightened eyes!
Verily, he who here towered aloft his thoughts in stone, knew as well as the wisest ones about the secret of life!"

"Oh, just look at those tabernacles which those priests have built themselves! Churches, they call their sweet-smelling caves!
<...>
Who created for themselves such caves and penitence-stairs? Was it not those who sought to conceal themselves, and were ashamed under the clear sky?
And only when the clear sky looketh again through ruined roofs, and down upon grass and red poppies on ruined walls—will I again turn my heart to the seats of this God."

"They called God that which opposed and afflicted them: and verily, there was much hero-spirit in their worship!
And they knew not how to love their God otherwise than by nailing men to the cross!
<...>
Better songs would they have to sing, for me to believe in their Saviour: more like saved ones would his disciples have to appear unto me!
Naked, would I like to see them: for beauty alone should preach penitence. But whom would that disguised affliction convince!"

"With thunder and heavenly fireworks must one speak to indolent and somnolent senses.
But beauty’s voice speaketh gently: it appealeth only to the most awakened souls."

"The virtue of the pillar shalt thou strive after: more beautiful doth it ever become, and more graceful—but internally harder and more sustaining—the higher it riseth.
Yea, thou sublime one, one day shalt thou also be beautiful, and hold up the mirror to thine own beauty.
Then will thy soul thrill with divine desires; and there will be adoration even in thy vanity!
For this is the secret of the soul: when the hero hath abandoned it, then only approacheth it in dreams—the superhero.—"

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:21:28 2023 No.22292344

>>22292198
>also labeled himself as an "anti-fascist"
There is nothing good in fascism, though. Old Neetch literally advised you to flee to the forests rather than wage-slave around. (Dawn, #206)

"It would be better to emigrate and endeavour to become a master in new and savage countries, and especially to become master over myself, changing my place of abode whenever the least sign of slavery threatens me, endeavouring to avoid neither adventure nor war, and, if things come to the worst, holding myself ready to die: anything rather than continuing in this state of disgraceful thraldom, this bitterness, malice and rebelliousness!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:27:05 2023 No.22292356 File: 364 KB, 693x1000, richard-wagner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22292185 Wagner criticised Nietzsche for being a godless, carnivorous sceptic and he was right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:28:50 2023 No.22292359 >>22292356 >Wagner criticised Nietzsche for being a godless, carnivorous sceptic >>22292332

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:31:05 2023 No.22292361
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>>22292185
>He believed in WTP
>He was critical of the Jews (especially through the Abrahamic canon) but used them (their strong cultural tie) as a good counterexample to contemporary German degeneracy
>Well didn't he change his mind about the Overman in his last years?

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:31:21 2023 No.22292362

>>22292185
>Noooo! The death of God is a tragedy because now there are not objective values!
Was Nietzsche a midwit? It didn't cross his mind that you don't need God to be a good person? As a matter of fact, if you are only good because you think God will punish you if you are evil, then, brother, you're a piece of shit and you were never good to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:33:29 2023 No.22292369 >>22292359 Wagner only read Human, All Too Human.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:33:34 2023 No.22292370 >>22292362 Define good person

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:38:40 2023 No.22292388

>>22292362
>Was Nietzsche a midwit? It didn't cross his mind that you don't need God to be a good person?
"In England, every time you take one small step towards emancipation from theology you have to reinvent yourself as a moral fanatic in the most awe-inspiring way. That is the *price* you pay there. - For the rest of us, things are different. When you give up Christian faith, you pull the rug out from under your right to Christian morality as well. This is *anything* but obvious: you have to keep driving this point home, English idiots to the contrary. Christianity is a system, a carefully considered, *integrated* view of things. If you break off a main tenet, the belief in God, you smash the whole system along with it: you lose your grip on anything necessary. Christianity presupposes that humans do not know, *cannot* know what is good for them or what is evil, they believe in God who has privileged knowledge of this. Christian morality is a command; it has a transcendent origin; it is beyond all criticism, all right to criticism; it has truth only if God is the truth, - it stands or falls along with belief in God. - When the English really believe that they 'intuitively' know all by themselves what is good and what is evil; and when, as a result, they think that they do not need Christianity to guarantee morality any more, this is itself just the *result* of the domination of the Christian value judgment and an expression of the *strength* and *depth* of this domination: so that the origin of English morality has been forgotten, so that no one can see how highly conditioned its right to exist really is. For the English, morality is not a problem yet ..."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:41:41 2023 No.22292394 >>22292388 So he was a midwit then. I'm an atheist and morality isn't a problem for me, because I don't need a God to be a good person. If you do, then you aren't good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:42:26 2023 No.22292398 >>22292394 What is a good person?

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:46:10 2023 No.22292402
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>>22292185
>erm actually it's not atheism he's agnostic or some shiet it's like totally different
Brother, if you don't believe that Chris is Lord, you might as well be an atheist to me. I don't really much care if you've invented your own I'm not like other girls brand
Catholicism doesn't count btw

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:47:39 2023 No.22292407 >>22292402 Chris Rock?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:48:57 2023 No.22292409 >>22292407 y-yeah

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:52:06 2023 No.22292420

>>22292394
>I'm an atheist and morality isn't a problem for me, because I don't need a God to be a good person.
Translation: Christianity is so deeply stuck within you, that you don't even need a Yahweh-fable anymore to keep following its tenets. Equality, human rights, democracy, etc. Self-evident truth! Good!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:53:01 2023 No.22292422 >>22292185 >>He was an atheist Lol stop trying to neg Freddy he believed in himself and everyone's a nihilist in love with Jews in some way in the West

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:53:16 2023 No.22292423 >>22292420 yeah i think atheists forgot that people before/outside of Christianity don't inherently follow all the virtues that we today take as granted (help other people, help the weak, be kind, etc) They do evil shit and are generally like animals

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:56:01 2023 No.22292426 >>22292423 >They do evil shit What is evil? >are generally like animals are generally adapted to the CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THE ENVIRONMENT. Unlike spergs that believe that they had already found an eternal set of rules.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:58:08 2023 No.22292430

>>22292185
he was an atheist. having some vague spiritual feelings doesn't make you not an atheist, it just makes you slightly less retarded than the overtly materialist atheists. atheism is the absence of religion. by definition, agnostics and wishy-washy "spiritualists" are atheists

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:58:09 2023 No.22292431

>>22292426
>are generally adapted to the CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
yeah, like animals
>What is evil?
the lack of good
>an eternal set of rules
that's exactly correct
you will notice that christian teachings are fundamental and unchanging and that's why they're still persevering and relevant even 2000 years later

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:03:21 2023 No.22292447

>>22292431
>yeah, like animals
You are saying 'animal' as if it were something derogatory, you furless ape.

>the lack of good
That's as meaningful as "green ideas sleep furiously"

>you will notice that christian teachings are
>unchanging
They are not. But you do create a dysgenic Baldwin Effect with negative consequences for posterity.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:05:43 2023 No.22292452

>>22292447
>You are saying 'animal' as if it were something derogatory
well yeah, because humans are not animals
>That's as meaningful as "green ideas sleep furiously"
you asked, i answer
there's no cold just lack of heat, there's no darkness just lack of light, etc, you know the meme
>They are not
they are, though
no matter what country or time period, christian teachings are the same
>dysgenic
animal fascist word
humans are not animals, animal mechanics do not apply. we don't have genes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:11:05 2023 No.22292464 >>22292362 Kill yourself monkey faggot

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:14:16 2023 No.22292471

>>22292452
>there's no cold just lack of heat, there's no darkness just lack of light, etc, you know the meme
there are no humans, just a local decrease of entropy due to heat.
there is no good, just a dumb animal lacking understanding of its suboptimal heuristics.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:51:49 2023 No.22292730

>>22292185
Those are all true, but people who say these things typically neglect to factor in the nuance, because you're right, they don't read him.

>He was an atheist
Yes, in the sense that he rejected the notion of an absolute. This actually made him the most profound kind of atheist, since it entailed him rejecting the holiness of everything, including the study of logic and mathematics.

>He loved Jews
He did, at least in comparison to 19th century Germans, who he was very disappointed with.

>He was a nihilist
An "active nihilist," in his own words. In other words, he didn't possess the common convictions of the time he was born in. He felt no enthusiasm for the things that his fellow human beings felt enthusiasm for, and instead, he felt the impulse to destroy the world around him, hence the "active" part of the self-proclaimed label. In the same stroke, he understood that values come and go in cycles — when something is destroyed, fertile ground is always left in its place for something new to grow, and he knew that life had the tendency to grow whenever given the opportunity to do so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:54:54 2023 No.22292738 >>22292198 Neech started postmodernism. Obviously they would like it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:00:45 2023 No.22292755 >>22292738 Maybe try to read him

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:01:58 2023 No.22292759 >>22292362 If you want to criticize someone you should read him, at the very least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:06:11 2023 No.22292771 >>22292195 talmud reader detected obliteration protocol iniatitated

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:07:00 2023 No.22292772 >>22292452 This is the person called Nietzsche a "midwit". Must be an elaborated bait or just someone that should be shot on sight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:32:54 2023 No.22292827 >>22292772 >Must be an elaborated bait or just someone that should be shot on sight. In most cases on this site, I think it's both.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:46:36 2023 No.22292857 File: 429 KB, 2633x1593, 55226600_l.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22292185 The*sts are trying to appropriate fucking Nietzsche now. Stick to your semen retention rituals.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:46:50 2023 No.22292859

>>22292772
everything i said was true and my actual belief
didnt call nietzsche anything, but you certainly are a midwit
pseudointellectual because you understood 1st grade biology and physics, then subsequently decided that it's good enough and no God is needed in the picture
go worship science

>>	sore Sat Jul 22 15:52:32 2023 No.22292871 >>22292185 >>22292185 You should read Nietzsche first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:52:54 2023 No.22292872 >>22292857 >>22292857 unironically semen retetion and world tree theism is probably exactly the kind of shit nietzche wanted. BRO GET JACKED. ABS FOR SUMMER BRO. - Nietzche

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:54:22 2023 No.22292875 >>22292185 >he loved Jews. Did your dad fuck your brain out of your skull.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:56:15 2023 No.22292880 >>22292875 >>22292875 >signs someone never read nietzche bro your a sign you didnt read the full post.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:59:07 2023 No.22292887 >>22292872 twitter roman statue avatar -tier interpretation of Nietzsche

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:00:47 2023 No.22292892 >>22292887 cope and seethe MVNLET

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:08:46 2023 No.22292909

>>22292185
>He loved Jews
Dawn, #205

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/39955/39955-h/39955-h.html
"On the day when the Jews will be able to exhibit to us as their own work such jewels and golden vessels as no European nation, with its shorter and less profound experience, can or could produce, when Israel shall have changed its eternal vengeance into an eternal benediction for Europe: then that seventh day will once more appear when old Jehovah may rejoice in Himself, in His creation, in His chosen people—and all, all of us, will rejoice with Him!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:09:17 2023 No.22292911 >>22292892 I am probably taller than you, hyporboriantraditionalist67

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:13:18 2023 No.22292922

>>22292911
No i understand theres more to him than that. that even the weak should be able to use rhetoric to achieve their needs. Eternal recurrance and how the will to power trumps a will to truth that spinoza put forward.
But I refuse to be PoorlyReadNietzcheanLavaynist24

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:14:44 2023 No.22292931 >>22292909 this has a double meaning. Anyone with knowledge of jews knows what "Jewels" they have to offer. that being said their destructive and manipulative presence forces people to adapt and overcome their own weaknessess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:17:24 2023 No.22292937 >>22292909 lmao this is such an underhanded passage, nietzche really is a catty bitch and i love him for it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:20:25 2023 No.22292948 >>22292937 Og shitposter

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:27:31 2023 No.22292969

>>22292394
This is a very ironic statement. The majority of people genuinely think it is inherently bad to murder or rape someone, even though it's what our ancestors did constantly to every tribe that pissed them off. Imagine being a small tribe of 50 people and not stealing another tribes woman and taking their belongings.... immediately you and your kin are stronger and better at survival.

Now we no longer life in tribes, we use different survival strategies, but that doesn't mean our way is more moral, just better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:30:02 2023 No.22292973 >>22292362 People are dunking on you but you're not wrong. The fact that the world got secularized but we still believe in goodness and human rights prove that Nietzsche was wrong. The death of God didn't cause nihilism.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:31:18 2023 No.22292979

>>22292973
the world got secularized and you started sacrificing children, i'm not even attaching moral valence to this (i don't care) but it would've appalled the previous morality. your morals are now unanchored and you'll rewrite the past as necessary to justify them.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:41:20 2023 No.22293002

>>22292973
>The fact that the world got secularized but we still believe in goodness and human rights prove that Nietzsche was wrong. The death of God didn't cause nihilism.
That goodness IS nihilism. Why are foreigners flooding European nations, why do we spend so much on welfare for people that don't deserve it, why aren't we just conquering foreign nations and using them for some goals or purpose that will benefit us? Because of morality.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:41:28 2023 No.22293003

>>22292973
People are dunking on him because he apparently hasn't read Nietzsche outside of knowing the "God is dead" meme. Nietzsche was well aware of atheistic ethics such as Epicureanism. His problem was a deeper one thank "God dont real lol" but that scepticism and scientific development had made it unrealistic to ground any objective values.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:43:01 2023 No.22293008 >>22292198 They’re so ZOG minded they like Anything that attacks christianity

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:48:14 2023 No.22293020 >>22292362 nice plagiarism from true detective

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:14:53 2023 No.22293082 >>22292362 >It's a "/lit/ deluded manchild insults higher mind" episode

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:55:09 2023 No.22293184

>>22292973
>The fact that the world got secularized but we still believe in goodness and human rights prove that Nietzsche was wrong
No it doesn't. He criticized English thinkers for committing the same error. "For the English, morality is not yet a problem" or something like that. In a properly atheist world, the will to power is all that matters, and "goodness" becomes aligned with whatever heightens it.

>What is good? All that heightens the feelings of power, the will to power, power itself in man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:01:47 2023 No.22293199 >>22292911 >hyporboriantraditionalist67 >is actually a short brown DBZ mulatto latino

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:17:09 2023 No.22293249 Nietzsche's respect for the Jews was basically saying that nationalist accusations against them were correct but that it was a merit of the Jews

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:29:09 2023 No.22293283 >>22293199 or a homophobic latino groyper many such cases!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:39:26 2023 No.22293315 >>22292356 Sounds based, you can keep your Judeo-Fagnerian christcope

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:40:38 2023 No.22293319

>>22292973
secularized but what’s “good” is still within the Christian morality framework for vast majority of atheists, even if not in totality, e.g. charity, egalitarianism, the people > elites, turn the other cheek (“taking the high road…”), etc… Not to mention many “atheists” display pseudo-religious behavior all the time with or without realizing it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:44:39 2023 No.22293328 >>22293002 Your leaders won't stop them and you feel so threatened you beg to be rescued from them. Not particularly masterful of you to cry over indigestion

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:46:08 2023 No.22293331 >>22293008 You do realize, oh little larper, where Christianity comes from? You are aware of its genealogy I do sincerely hope

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:48:04 2023 No.22293338

>>22293319
And what's the issue with that? Most atheists agree that Jesus was a standup guy. What we don't like are christians, because they are so unlike Jesus. His morals were never the issue. We don't like religion because of the things they did in the name of Jesus, but beyond that, there's no reason to believe in God in the modern world because we don't need a God to be good people anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:49:52 2023 No.22293344 >>22292195 He shits on jews in the antichrist, the reason he dislikes christianity is because it is essentially too jewish/semitic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:51:05 2023 No.22293349 >>22293331 Fucking hell get back to r*ddit faggot

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:53:11 2023 No.22293354

>>22293338
Nietzsche frequently alternates between praising and criticizing the same target, in a way he is daring you to exegete him. He is constantly telling you that Christians are nihilists and their morality is rooted in ressentiment, but then we have Jesus, who is an obvious problem for the anti-Christian, Jesus who dies on the cross not vowing revenge but asking why he is forsaken and that his killers might be shown mercy. And this is a message lost on the likes of the early Christians, who allow only for Jesus to be the one son of the one God, according to Nietzsche, and indeed lost on church theologians who believe sinners writhing in hell is pleasing to the saints. They have reimposed their jealousy and ressentiment on the sacrifice and the tragic. It's starting to sound like a sermon, but Nietzsche is not looking to reform Christianity, he is interested in exposing its poor pedigree and its failure to understand its most important event, at which point the idol has been exorcized and Christianity is no more. But one has to be worthy of the deed, a strange concept to be sure. If for Plato philosophy is preparation for one's death, one's tomb, for Nietzsche it must be seen as preparation for God's death. If one is not prepared, he is not a real atheist, still a Christian!

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:55:31 2023 No.22293366

>>22293328
>Your leaders won't stop them and you feel so threatened you beg to be rescued from them.
Have you not seen the amount of violent crime perpetrated against innocent people by these shitskins, you dumb nigger subhuman? There are brutal attacks everyday that thenmedia covers up. Girls or boys getting beaten and robbed because they're white. The media doesn't say a thing, and will instead attack white people. Try keeping, halfwit.

The democratic system is broken, the overwhelming majority of Westerners want immigration severely limited according to every survey and available data, politicians always pay lip service to it but as soon as they get in they never do anything, because they must obey the anti-white agenda set by the economic elite or they'll be taken out of office.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:55:54 2023 No.22293367 >>22293349 Anti-semites worshiping a dead rabbi as the heavenly king of the universe will never not be funny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:57:25 2023 No.22293371 >>22293338 >Most atheists agree that Jesus was a standup guy. You guys will take after a narcissistic jew who falsely proclaims to be the son of God and see nothing wrong with this... lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:59:07 2023 No.22293378 >>22293338 >there's no reason to believe in God in the modern world because we don't need a God to be good people anymore. If that were true you'd hate industrialization and advocate for anti-natalist policies for non-whites, but you don't so stfu.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:06:09 2023 No.22293400

>>22293366
This is all because you suck and are from a long line of suckers. I'm sorry nobody told you before. You are not morally or ethically superior for being defeated. Wellbeck has a novel about how in France you are all defeated by Islam without firing a shot, using the very framework of liberal democracy. That seems quite possible and likely preferably to having some sort of indigenous revolt led by the most sickly and feeble sheep carried into the halls of power to oppose them. The Gauls never overthrew the Romans. And the Romans never repulsed the Franks. But if you know your pokemon, French types take double damage from Algerian types.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:29:30 2023 No.22293453 >>22292185 He was a nihilist in some way, he tried to find a meaning. I think he should have become a based taoist, could have saved him

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:39:04 2023 No.22293479 >>22293367 I don't care. It's obvious by the way you write that you're an idiotic redditcuck tourist who doesn't belong here. Go back, faggot

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:42:45 2023 No.22293491

>>22293400
Seems like you're actually implying that whites are totally superior to nonwhites. You can actually see the cities devolving as a result of nonwhite forced immigration (that we never voted on and don't want). Seems like you're also admitting the white nationalist cause is correct, and admitting that the nonwhites coming here are just animalistic subhumans who have no place in 1st world countries. You're a shitskin. You will never be white. You belong in a 3rd world toilet, not in a white country.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:43:38 2023 No.22293497 File: 196 KB, 286x368, 1641011153744.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22293479 This is a japanese cartoon porn forum. Go to confession.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:44:17 2023 No.22293499 >>22293400 >shitskin cope

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:45:45 2023 No.22293503 >>22293497 I'm not christian, you're just an unbearably autistic faggot who clearly belongs on redd1t with his wannabe clever tryhard replies. Pure cringe. Are you a tranny too? Kek

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:48:16 2023 No.22293507

>>22293491
You're going for the gold at mental gymnastics here, the last weapon of those without claws. You really ought to read Nietzsche if you want to participate in a thread about Nietzsche. I'm not sure what you consider "the white nationalist cause" to be but if it involves ending immigration that's obviously never happening unless you turn Western countries into places people want to leave and I doubt you are willing to live like the Sudanese or Afghans do. You ever see the movie Finding Nemo? How filthy are you willing to make the fish tank? How much poison can you tolerate? You are not nearly as robust as you imagine yourself to be and will never be rid of the things you complain about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:49:02 2023 No.22293510 >>22293400 The entire reason 3rd world garbage comes to Europe or the West is because Europe dominated so hard that it's basically the #1 place to live and can support these worthless brown monkeys who do nothing but collect welfare.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:49:21 2023 No.22293513 >>22293503 You ain't a real Hindu either tardlarper

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:51:09 2023 No.22293518

>>22293507
You're the one who had no argument in the first place. You started rambling about french people being replaced by shitskins. Why is immigration never ending? Because you admit I'm correct and democracy is broken? So you're either not even white (lol) or you're just a defeatist cuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:52:18 2023 No.22293523 >>22293513 Traditionalism? Oy vey! Why would i be hindu, you fucking idiot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 20:11:50 2023 No.22293577 >>22293518 Oh ok so real democracy has never been tried and more liberalism will result in the success of your illiberal ideology.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 21:24:57 2023 No.22293830 >>22293577 I said democracy doesn't work, the will of the people isn't being obeyed. Whether or not it has been tried isn't the point, you pseud.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 22:17:53 2023 No.22294006 >>22293830 >the will of the people this is really cute

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:16:44 2023 No.22294209 >>22294006 >still thinks I'm arguing favour of democracy Serious question, not joking: do you have a mental disability?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:28:16 2023 No.22294624 >>22292948 He takes after Schoppy. Half of Schopenhauer is him seething that the rest of German idealism needs to fucking read the books, starting with the dictionary and then moving on to Kant once they understand what simple words mean

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:48:28 2023 No.22294832

>>22294209
You're assigning moral authority to "the will of the people." You are quite literally a demo-crat in its modern, non-Athenian sense. You would rebuild the very thing you're upset with from scratch, and then when it does the same thing again and you are loser again you'll still be crying that it was the work of evil enemies and not your own impotence that caused it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:51:10 2023 No.22294838

>>22293830
you think the state is supposed to serve the will of the majority?
The jews are unfortunately as of now the real patricians of our societies. We have resentful slave masters ruling over us. We're fucked until there is some change in the power structure and this actually can be done if the "right" party comes into the scene like the NSDAP in 1932.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:52:31 2023 No.22294839 >>22294624 I confess I probably have to do this also.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:54:10 2023 No.22294841 Nietzsche believed in nihilism in the same way that you would believe in cancer

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:54:18 2023 No.22294842 >>22294832 LOL INSIDIOUS PROPAGANDA AT EVERY LEVEL AND ANTI_DEMOCRACTIC LAWFARE AND SMEAR CAMPAIGNS. LOL THE ENEMIES OF JEWS ARE REALLY GIVEN AN EQUAL SPEAKING PLATFORM HERE. Jesus you are so fucking clearly jewish get in the fucking gas chamber.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:55:19 2023 No.22294844 >>22294841 cancer actuallu does give many people a ggratitude for life so this is a very interesting comparison.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:09:07 2023 No.22294869 >>22294838 >>22294842 2016 was almost a decade ago it's time to move on

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:34:07 2023 No.22294919 File: 20 KB, 474x632, Nonsense.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22294869

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:38:55 2023 No.22294935 >>22292185 The notion that Nietzsche would not have supported the Nazis is the biggest cope in the history of academia

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:40:53 2023 No.22294940 >>22294919 uh oh don't look up who worked on that movie from before you were born they're not based and redpilled at all

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:47:00 2023 No.22294950 >>22294935 I think Nietzsche would have been a neocon. He was despotic, but had a fixation with progress, and had a hardon for jews.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:47:55 2023 No.22294953

>he loved Jews
Losurdo should be a mandatory reading for whoever wants to analyze Nietzsche's political thought. This nigga equates Jewry to Socratism and then spends his entire career raving against Socratism (ending it with the Antichrist, in which Jews are essentially treated as the main virus-like vehicle of decadende), yet people still actually believe that he was pro-semitic because he thought that german nationalist antisemites were retards (a judgement which stemmed from his hatred for post-unification Germany, rather than respect towards the Jews).
The extend of sanitization that Nietzsche went through is truly insane.

>He was a nihilist
A thread died for this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:50:29 2023 No.22294957 >>22294950 He didn't have a hardon for jews.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:53:13 2023 No.22294967

>>22294935
I think it actually makes some sense, considering that the nazis still abided to notions such as the one of "right" and "german nationalism". Its populist character is nowhere close to the kind of aristocraticism that should have been pursued by Bismarck.
I still agree with you in spirit. It's kinda funny seeing leftists and liberals believing that he would have not supported the nazis because of their antisemitism, and their support for extermination of the undesireables and eugenetic control of the masses (all things he explicitly endorsed both in public and in private).

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:58:37 2023 No.22294978

>>22294950
>I think this 19th century German philosopher is most closely aligned with a random 1960s US political movement that has nothing to do with any of his works, rather than with the ideology that directly grew out of his own theories and which was supported by literally every one of his surviving German contemporaries.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 04:04:33 2023 No.22294994

>>22294967
I understand your train of thought, but I disagree. Consider Kaiser Wilhelm II - the German aristocrat par excellence. He initially dismissed the Nazis as "gangsters" (i.e., because of their populism, exactly as you say), but eventually he became an enthusiastic supporter. It was the same view taken by most conservative Germans of the time. Nietzsche's politics place him firmly in this camp.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 04:54:04 2023 No.22295138 >>22294940 Pharoh did nothing wrong

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 04:55:05 2023 No.22295145 >>22295138 Niether moses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 04:56:49 2023 No.22295151 >>22294869 move onto what. Your GF lolololololol

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 05:08:02 2023 No.22295182 File: 379 KB, 542x567, Antiftwats.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22292185 if you are gay

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:00:09 2023 No.22295444

>>22294953
>Jews are essentially treated as the main virus-like vehicle of decadende
"Thus did the Will, the emancipator, become a torturer; and on all that is capable of suffering it taketh revenge, because it cannot go backward.
<...>
The spirit of revenge: my friends, that hath hitherto been man’s best contemplation; and where there was suffering, it was claimed there was always penalty.
“Penalty,” so calleth itself revenge. With a lying word it feigneth a good conscience.
<...>
Hath the Will become its own deliverer and joy-bringer? Hath it unlearned the spirit of revenge and all teeth-gnashing? And who hath taught it reconciliation with time, and something higher than all reconciliation?
Something higher than all reconciliation must the Will will which is the Will to Power—: but how doth that take place? Who hath taught it also to will backwards?
—But at this point in his discourse it chanced that Zarathustra suddenly paused, and looked like a person in the greatest alarm. With terror in his eyes did he gaze on his disciples; "

"To him however, who is possessed of a devil, I would whisper this word in the ear: “Better for thee to rear up thy devil! Even for thee there is still a path to greatness!”— "

(the tarantulas, i.e. the vengeful type)
"Inspired ones they resemble: but it is not the heart that inspireth them—but vengeance. And when they become subtle and cold, it is not spirit, but envy, that maketh them so.
Their jealousy leadeth them also into thinkers’ paths; and this is the sign of their jealousy—they always go too far: so that their fatigue hath at last to go to sleep on the snow."

(literally the next chapter, some other guys)
"And never yet could ye cast your spirit into a pit of snow: ye are not hot enough for that! Thus are ye unaware, also, of the delight of its coldness.
<...>
Ye seem to me lukewarm ones: but coldly floweth all deep knowledge. Ice-cold are the innermost wells of the spirit: a refreshment to hot hands and handlers."

In other words, BEING A VIRUS IS NOT DEROGATORY.
They effectively ARE the best humanity can offer as of yet. They effectively DO what the 'inspired' ones do (just not cognizing it).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:07:38 2023 No.22295455 >>22292185 He literally calls himself a nihilist. He's just a special kind of nihilist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:09:10 2023 No.22295460 >>22294994 Wilhelm II was cucked out of power by Jewish banking hucksters. What sort of aristocrat is that?

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:56:04 2023 No.22295525

>>22293354
>He is constantly telling you that Christians are nihilists and their morality is rooted in ressentiment, but then we have Jesus, who is an obvious problem for the anti-Christian, Jesus who dies on the cross not vowing revenge but asking why he is forsaken and that his killers might be shown mercy.
yeah that's because low IQ people like Atheists are in awe of the first eloquent person who do something beyond mental masturbation and consuming bourgeois entertainment.
Those subhuman atheists dont give much shit about the content of the doctrine of the eloquent guy. Plus they have no clue if the guy spouts nonsense or not. They just love to hear story about the world to pass the time. This is why all the french rats in academia have huge audience... of their own species, ie bored bourgeois and halfwitted proles.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:59:46 2023 No.22295534

>>22295525
>This is why all the french rats in academia have huge audience... of their own species, ie bored bourgeois and halfwitted proles.
Plus int his special case, the moronic atheist fantasy, starting with the Nietzche's diarrhea, of ''''''being subversive'''''''''.
Atheists are so dead inside, the only way those vermin dream is through a self-aggrandizing messianic fantasy, where ofc they ''reluctantly'' help other people, because they are too smart for this world.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 08:04:04 2023 No.22295540 >>22295525 >>22295534 Two posts and you literally said nothing, just showed your resentment towards your betters aka atheists. Also why aren't you at church? Dumb larping pseud.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 08:15:27 2023 No.22295554 >>22292185 As if he is consistent.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 08:46:40 2023 No.22295612 >>22292973 >The fact that the world got secularized but we still believe in goodness and human rights prove that Nietzsche was wrong. It mostly proves that normalfags are retarded, which I do believe Nietzsche also thought.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:01:40 2023 No.22295633 >>22292185 he can be a great leader if he wasn't so autistic

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:06:05 2023 No.22295641 >>22292362 >It didn't cross his mind that you don't need God to be a good person? There are no "good people." Nietzsche went completely over your head.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:18:21 2023 No.22295666 >>22295444 If jews are the best humanity has to offer, why is it that everything they touch turns to shit, like a nation of bizarro king midases? Decline and ruin follows them wherever they go.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:27:59 2023 No.22295680 >>22295666 they are the best at acheiving power?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:29:01 2023 No.22295682 >>22295680 currently

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:31:34 2023 No.22295687

>>22295666
>why is it that everything they touch turns to shit
"And this do I say also to the o’erthrowers of statues: It is certainly the greatest folly to throw salt into the sea, and statues into the mud.
In the mud of your contempt lay the statue: but it is just its law, that out of contempt, its life and living beauty grow again!
With diviner features doth it now arise, seducing by its suffering; and verily! it will yet thank you for o’erthrowing it, ye subverters!
This counsel, however, do I counsel to kings and churches, and to all that is weak with age or virtue—let yourselves be o’erthrown! That ye may again come to life, and that virtue—may come to you!—” "

"Yea, thou art still for me the demolisher of all graves: Hail to thee, my Will! And only where there are graves are there resurrections.—"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:32:23 2023 No.22295689 >>22295680 Where were they between Hadrian and Napoleon?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:35:06 2023 No.22295694 >>22295687 >I win because I lost Uhh okay lol

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:40:37 2023 No.22295701

>>22295666
>why is it that everything they touch turns to shit
Because the Nietzsche's point is not to HAVE some cool object/culture/value X, but to have an everlasting meat-grinder of re-installing a new X. An upkeep of the momentum. Becoming instead of Being.

OF COURSE, everything is gonna turn to shit. You included. But it is not you that is important in this scheme.

>>22295694
>>I win because I lost
No, Life/Power wins because you lose.

"Good and evil, and rich and poor, and high and low, and all names of values: weapons shall they be, and sounding signs, that life must again and again surpass itself!
Aloft will it build itself with columns and stairs—life itself: into remote distances would it gaze, and out towards blissful beauties—therefore doth it require elevation!
And because it requireth elevation, therefore doth it require steps, and variance of steps and climbers! To rise striveth life, and in rising to surpass itself."

"And this secret spake Life herself unto me. “Behold,” said she, “I am that which must ever surpass itself.
To be sure, ye call it will to procreation, or impulse towards a goal, towards the higher, remoter, more manifold: but all that is one and the same secret.
Rather would I succumb than disown this one thing; and verily, where there is succumbing and leaf-falling, lo, there doth Life sacrifice itself—for power!"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:41:46 2023 No.22295704 >>22295701 what scheme?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:43:05 2023 No.22295705 >>22295694 hahaha did I lose though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:44:51 2023 No.22295707 >>22295704 >what scheme? >>an everlasting meat-grinder of re-installing a new X >>Becoming instead of Being Heraclitean metaphysics, basically. Everything flows.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:45:38 2023 No.22295709

>>22295701
>Because the Nietzsche's point is not to HAVE some cool object/culture/value X, but to have an everlasting meat-grinder of re-installing a new X. An upkeep of the momentum. Becoming instead of Being.

But that's the thing, jews don't create new things, they distort old ones. They are incapable of true creation. They are cultural incels. The only choice they have is to either seethe against or try to emulate europeans, but they are completely incapable of detaching themselves from this dynamic, just like the moon can't decouple itself from the Earth or have any shine without the sun's light.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:53:27 2023 No.22295719 >>22295707 >>22295709 sounds HYPERBVRIAN YOU MADE IT GUYS.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:58:21 2023 No.22295725

>>22295709
>jews don't create new things
Vengeful sublime ones do not create new things, yes.

"Should he become weary of his sublimeness, this sublime one, then only will his beauty begin—and then only
will I taste him and find him savoury.
And only when he turneth away from himself will he o’erleap his own shadow —and verily! into his sun.
Far too long did he sit in the shade; the cheeks of the penitent of the spirit became pale; he almost starved on his expectations.
Contempt is still in his eye, and loathing hideth in his mouth. To be sure, he now resteth, but he hath not yet taken rest in the sunshine.
<...>
He hath subdued monsters, he hath solved enigmas. But he should also redeem his monsters and enigmas; into heavenly children should he transform them.
As yet hath his knowledge not learned to smile, and to be without jealousy; as yet hath his gushing passion not become calm in beauty.
Verily, not in satiety shall his longing cease and disappear, but in beauty! Gracefulness belongeth to the munificence of the magnanimous.
<...>
But precisely to the hero is beauty the hardest thing of all. Unattainable is beauty by all ardent wills.
A little more, a little less: precisely this is much here, it is the most here.
To stand with relaxed muscles and with unharnessed will: that is the hardest for all of you, ye sublime ones!
When power becometh gracious and descendeth into the visible—I call such condescension, beauty.
And from no one do I want beauty so much as from thee, thou powerful one: let thy goodness be thy last self-conquest.
All evil do I accredit to thee: therefore do I desire of thee the good.
Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings, who think themselves good because they have crippled paws!"

>They are incapable of true creation.
The rabble is incapable of true creation. Because they are weak. But they are an entirely different category.

>The only choice they have is to either seethe against
"To him however, who is possessed of a devil, I would whisper this word in the ear: “Better for thee to rear up thy devil! Even for thee there is still a path to greatness!”— "

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 10:18:57 2023 No.22295755 >>22294935 Nietzsche was an Ameriboo, why would he have supported the Nazis? 20th century United States understood him better than 20th century Germany, anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 10:46:43 2023 No.22295787 >>22293344 Literally the opposite lol. He dislikes Jews because it lead to Christianity. The plethora of praises Nietzsche gives to Jews cannot be ignored in both his published works and letters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 10:52:39 2023 No.22295794 This Nietzsche guy sounds kinda like Thrasymachus.... but Thrasymachus only needed like a few lines.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 10:53:17 2023 No.22295797 >>22292931 >Jews >jewels Explain please

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 10:55:58 2023 No.22295803 >>22293338 >le bad Christians Who are those exactly? And what percentage of the whole do they make up? And how can you be sure of that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 10:56:16 2023 No.22295804 >>22295794 Nietzsche is essentially a combination of Heraclitus and the Sophists. He wrote as much as he did because he was dealing with thousands of years of Platonist drivel, unlike those guys.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 10:59:17 2023 No.22295808 >>22293830 >the will of the people The will of the people is nonexistent you retard. There are no more citizens, only consumers, and you are one of them, appealing to some imaginary “le true will against corruption only I can see”

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 16:21:18 2023 No.22296441 >>22295444 >Decadence is the best humanity has to offer Give me a break

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 16:57:47 2023 No.22296555 >>22292185 >He was a nihilist Congrats. You didn’t read Nietzsche

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