are you patrician? >favorite prophet >favorite composer >favorite poet >favorite novelist >favorite philosopher >favorite playwright >favorite director >favorite painter >favorite architect

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Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 21:08:29 No.22286516 [Reply] [Original]

are you patrician?

>favorite prophet
>favorite composer
>favorite poet
>favorite novelist
>favorite philosopher
>favorite playwright
>favorite director
>favorite painter
>favorite architect

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 21:13:27 No.22286526 >>22286516 >Prophet: Baha'u'llah >Composer: Erik Satie >Poet: Arthur Rimbaud >Novelist: Marcel Proust >Philosopher: Heraclitus >Playwright: Samuel Beckett >Director: Alejandro Jodorowsky >Painter: Edouard Manet >Architect: Paul Rudolph

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 21:19:42 No.22286544 leonardo da vinci

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 21:27:01 No.22286561 >>22286526 Lmaoooo

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 21:30:11 No.22286566 >>22286526 kek

>>	Sir Duncan Crumb (His Lordship) Thu, Jul 20, 2023 21:37:49 No.22286591 File: 929 KB, 828x1368, A2056F65-B2E4-4E7A-B8EE-58BC26C3917A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22286526 >no Sir Duncan Crumb (His Lordship)

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 21:40:01 No.22286596 File: 131 KB, 500x589, 1573441774511.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22286516 >Are you patrician? No.

Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 21:47:10 No.22286612

>favorite prophet
Johannes
>favorite composer
Mozart
>favorite poet
Goethe
>favorite novelist
Gontcharov
>favorite philosopher
Rousseau
>favorite playwright
Schiller
>favorite director
Spielberg
>favorite painter
Nihâl Chand
>favorite architect
Bhoja

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 21:50:04 No.22286616 >>22286612 >Spielberg Yikes.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:00:11 No.22286642 >>22286516 'favorites' is for children. adults don't enjoy anything

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:06:17 No.22286657 >>22286516 Jonah Schnittke Carroll Ilf/Petrov Austin Shaw McLaren Chardin Golosov

Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:20:14 No.22286698
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>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
I am the beast I worship.
>>favorite composer
Luigi Russolo
>>favorite poet
Ginsburg
>>favorite novelist
William Burroughs
>>favorite philosopher
Bataille
>>favorite playwright
Sophocles
>>favorite director
Jim Jarmusch
>>favorite painter
Eugène Boudin
>>favorite architect
William Kent

Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:22:59 No.22286709

>>22286642
This. I don't like anything. Liking something just means you are sexually aroused by it. Art is not erotic, it is creative, on the most humble level, which I suppose is what this "art" is. It should, ideally, be set within the context of tradition & also have some sort of craft-like function or techne, either magic or not.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:26:29 No.22286713 >>22286516 Nostradamus Dont care Whitman H. Miller Emerson or Nietzsche Shakespeare or Strindberg or A. Miller Don’t care Van Gogh or Bosch or Bruegel Don’t care

Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:29:22 No.22286719
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>>22286516
>favorite prophet
mani/valentinus
>favorite composer
gesualdo/feldman/bach/schoenberg
>favorite poet
dryden/ovid/celan
>favorite novelist
proust/gaddis/joyce
>favorite philosopher
hegel/deleuze
>favorite playwright
beckett
>favorite director
elder/brakhage/farocki/piavoli
>favorite painter
titian/morandi/burri
>favorite architect
kahn/koolhaas

furthermore:

mathematician: euler/riemann/fuller
biologist: kauffman/maturana/varela/marguilis
historian: spengler/toynbee/gebser
photographer: henson/giacomelli

Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:32:16 No.22286726
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>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Never cared
>favorite composer
Smetana
>favorite poet
Poe
>favorite novelist
Hesse
>favorite philosopher
Epictetus
>favorite playwright
no
>favorite director
Kubrick
>favorite painter
Nicholas Roerich
>favorite architect
Frank Gehry

Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:36:10 No.22286733

>>22286642
only the teenage-minded tries to, thinking itself matured in gay folly, not entertain the game of favorites despite being obviously not an absolute concrete metric of anything, it's shorthand, of which only the autist gets caught up in "rejecting" as if they've pulled a fast one over the social rules.

>>22286709
faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:36:47 No.22286736 >>22286516 ted kaczynski beethoven poetry is for fags ernest hemingway nietzsche plays are for fags. but i guess whoever wrote the play that eventually became the film Glengarry Glenross kubrick van gogh gaudi

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:37:58 No.22286738 >>22286726 based

Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:41:27 No.22286748
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>>22286516
>favorite composer
Bach.
>favorite novelist
Dostoievsky.
>favorite philosopher
Kierkegaard.
>favorite director
Eric Rohmer.
>favorite painter
William-Adolphe Bouguereau.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 22:56:34 No.22286784 >>22286698 Dangerously based

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 23:08:33 No.22286815 >>22286516 >>favorite director im not a patrician but i will challenge you and ask, what manner of patrician would find himself in front of an mkultra machine whether it be a television or a movie theatre

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 23:09:45 No.22286817 >>22286815 deleuze who wrote a book on the matter; there are theaters and there are cinematheques. watch avant-garde film.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 23:11:14 No.22286823 >>22286815 >, he posted on his internet device

Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 23:22:43 No.22286842

>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
Spinoza
>>favorite composer
Brian Eno
>>favorite poet
Hart Crane
>>favorite novelist
Melville
>>favorite philosopher
Siddhartha
>>favorite playwright
Tom Stoppard
>>favorite director
Lynch or Carpenter
>>favorite painter
Mondrian
>>favorite architect
Wright

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 23:40:49 No.22286882 >>22286516 >John the Baptist >Frédéric Chopin >Pablo Neruda >Kurt Vonnegut >Plato >Big Will Shakespeare >Stanley Kubrick >Jacques-Louis David >Alfred Kahn

Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 23:48:37 No.22286908

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
John the Baptist
>favorite composer
Debussy
>favorite poet
Ezra Pound
>favorite novelist
Solzhenitsyn
>favorite philosopher
Hegel
>favorite playwright
Eugene O’Neill
>favorite director
Fassbinder
>favorite painter
Andrew Wyeth
>favorite architect
Not cultured enough to have a favorite architect.

Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 23:50:34 No.22286915

>>22286815
There is a strong current of anti-mainstream, anti-“content”, anti-industry, anti-consumer filmmakers who operate outside of the dominant production bases and audience demographic. It doesn’t make their films intrinsically better but it sure destabilizes the whole “cinema is just pulp media” idea, at least in terms of the intention of the artists.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 20, 2023 23:54:07 No.22286925 >>22286709 Holy shit who cares. I will continue to levitate to meticulously crafted slices of experience.

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 00:01:18 No.22286950
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>>22286516
Parentheses = honorable mentions and/or more personal choices

>>favorite prophet
Bely
>>favorite composer
Schubert I guess? Idk much here (Chopin, Mahler, Bach)
>>favorite poet
Dickinson (Eliot, Shijing poets, Mallarme)
>>favorite novelist
Going to put Homer here since I read him in translation (Beckett, Henry James, Tolstoy)
>>favorite philosopher
Keats (Laozi, Nabokov, Spengler)
>>favorite playwright
Shakespeare
>>favorite director
Ozu (Tarkovsky, Kiarostami, Bresson)
>>favorite painter
Turner (Blake, Whistler, Da Vinci)
>>favorite architect
Isidore & Anthemius (Hindu temple architects, Chinese palace architects, Palladio)

And I'll throw in Kafka and Borges as short-story writers even though I don't care much for short stories generally.

>>22286719
Why Dryden? Good choice, just curious why him in particular. Cool photo too.

>>22286698
>Kent

I assume you are basing this primarily on his interiors and gardens? Fun choice though.

>>22286526
Lovely choices, Manet is wonderful.

>>22286908
Architecture is pretty cool anon, you should try learning about it. Give Pevsner or Banister Fletcher a shot.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 00:03:30 No.22286956 >>22286950 drydens translations of virgil and ovid are themselves beautiful, moreso than Pope's Homer I find. other of Drydens work is excellent aswell.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 00:04:00 No.22286957 Pull down thy vanity

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 00:07:50 No.22286962 >>22286516 Zarathustra Scriabin Heredia Mishima Bataille Rostand Teshigahara Alma-Tadema Brunelleschi

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 00:07:50 No.22286963 John C. Calhoun Erik Satie or Federico Mompou Fernando Pessoa Joris-Karl Huysmans Arthur Schopenhauer Aeschylus Robert Bresson or Buster Keaton Georges Rouault Achilles Rizzoli

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 00:10:43 No.22286967 >>22286950 >Ozu (Tarkovsky, Kiarostami, Bresson) Based transcendentalist

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 00:23:45 No.22287001
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>>22286956
Pope's Homer, at least the Odyssey, wasn't all him, he had assistants doing a significant portion of it - also Virgil gives a lot more aesthetic texture to work so if you're just speaking in terms of the impression it leaves on you rather than trying to be rigorous about it, that might be a factor, but it's just a favorite I guess so you shouldn't have to be rigorous.

Not saying you're wrong though, I just generally tend to feel Pope's perfection more intensely than Dryden's but maybe Dryden is just more subtle. Either way they're both sublime, "classics of our prose" or not.

>>22286962
>>22286963
Loving how this thread brings all the based aesthetes out of the woodwork, we need more posts by these sorts of people and fewer by the dirty dirty plebs.

>Achilles Rizzoli
You heard of my nigga Étienne-Louis Boullée? Pic related.

>>22286967
Yup, stumbled upon it in a museum giftshop and fell in love with the whole concept (although I was already into Tarkovsky, albeit at a much more primitive level of appreciation). For a while it made me despair of the value of literature since it can never really do the same kind of thing, I even spent painstaking autistic hours trying in vain to recreate pure, complete images in prose. But now I'm more able to appreciate each medium for its own particular qualities.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 00:48:06 No.22287059 >>22286817 > deleuze who wrote a book on the matter That’s really not as impressive you think it is and is totally irrelevant. Also, improper use of a semi-colon

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 00:51:05 No.22287067

>>22287059
the deleuze cinema books are the highest film theory books ever made bursting with ideas, and he was definitely the most patrician person of his time. overwhelmingly in touch with every single aspect of culture as one of the last polymaths.

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 00:54:29 No.22287080

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
L. Ron Hubbard
>favorite composer
Ravel
>favorite poet
Charles Bukowski
>favorite novelist
Mishima
>favorite philosopher
Andrew Tate
>favorite playwright
Aristophanes
>favorite director
Hideaki Anno
>favorite painter
Adolf Hitler
>favorite architect
Pierce Brosnan

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 01:21:04 No.22287168

>>22286815
>>22287059
Film is anything you can do in theater + way more, barring some subtleties about acoustics or experimental audience participation stuff. Why should film have to justify itself when theater has been around for thousands of years? The difference is that between manuscripts and printed books. The technology changes society but you can do pretty much the same thing with the art itself.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 01:33:56 No.22287211 >>22286516 >solomon >brian wilson >karl pilkington >salinger >hume >edward albee >coen brothers >osman hamdi bey >mimar sinan

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 01:55:12 No.22287293

>>22286516
likely not
>favorite prophet
christ
>favorite composer
bach
>favorite poet
ee cummings
>favorite novelist
pynchon
>favorite philosopher
leibniz
>favorite playwright
shakespeare
>favorite director
antonioni
>favorite painter
velazquez
>favorite architect
palladio

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 02:16:11 No.22287365 >>22286962 Are you gay?

Femboy4prez !!QtZ5ahYRiUC Fri, Jul 21, 2023 02:21:37 No.22287386

>>22286516
love a good masturbatory thread

>favorite prophet
Bjork
>favorite composer
Messiaen
>favorite poet
Havent read enough
>favorite novelist
Lispector
>favorite philosopher
Merleau-Ponty
>favorite playwright
Ibsen (maybe??)
>favorite director
Hitchcock or Bresson (maybe???)
>favorite painter
Cezanne
>favorite architect
whoever did this, but any kind of folk "brutalism"

>>	Femboy4prez !!QtZ5ahYRiUC Fri, Jul 21, 2023 02:22:39 No.22287390 File: 3.57 MB, 3354x2236, 90663EB9-A035-4E73-8CA5-A6B5A41B470F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22287386

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 02:26:14 No.22287400 >>22286719 cringe

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 02:32:05 No.22287413 >>22286719 Are you Indian?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 02:36:02 No.22287428 >>22286526 holy psued

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 02:37:46 No.22287436 >>22286516 I don't have any favorite in any of those fields

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 02:48:38 No.22287477

>>favorite prophet
Isaiah
>>favorite composer
Duke Ellington
>>favorite poet
Alfred Lord Tennyson
>>favorite novelist
Miguel de Cervantes
>>favorite philosopher
Plato
>>favorite playwright
Tennessee Williams
>>favorite director
Federico Fellini
>>favorite painter
Holbein the Younger
>>favorite architect
I.M. Pei

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:01:28 No.22287536 >>22286698 >>favorite director >Jim Jarmusch Seems interesting. I should watch his stuff.

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:16:15 No.22287588 [DELETED]

>>22286516
>are you patrician?
No
>>favorite prophet
Estimated Prophet
>>favorite composer
Jerry Garcia
>>favorite poet
Robert Hunter
>>favorite novelist
Tolkien
>>favorite philosopher
Mickey Hart
>>favorite playwright
Shakespear
>>favorite director
Wells
>>favorite painter
Michaelangelo
>>favorite architect
Whoever built the Pantheon

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:27:28 No.22287619 >>22287001 I have heard of Boullée and I think he's great :)

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:36:55 No.22287644

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Myself
>favorite composer
Yu-Utsu
>favorite poet
That guy who writes limericks on the local public park’s bathroom
>favorite novelist
F. Gardner
>favorite philosopher
T. A. Davis
>favorite playwright
Shakespeare
>favorite director
T. Nasheed
>favorite painter
Olivier de Sagazan
>favorite architect
Le Corbusier

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:43:37 No.22287671 >>22287413 not one of those people are Indian

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:48:41 No.22287688

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Kanye West
>favorite composer
Kanye West
>favorite poet
Kanye West
>favorite novelist
Kanye west
>favorite philosopher
Kanye wesr
>favorite playwright
Kanye west
>favorite director
Kanye west
>favorite painter
Kanye west
>favorite architect
Kanye west

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:52:14 No.22287698 >>22287688 hm....based

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:55:04 No.22287710 >>22286516 >prophet: Marcion >composer: Dvorak >poet: Goethe >novelist: Dick >philosopher: Schmitt >playwright: Shakespeare >director: Hitchcock >painter: Goya >architect: Fuller (mainly due to him being a polymath)

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:56:48 No.22287717 >>22287671 I know. I wasn’t asking about them, I was asking about the anon. You can like artists outside of your nationality

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:57:23 No.22287720 >>22287710 marcion, dvorak, fuller - very classy anon, the rest a bit run-of-the-mill though

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:57:31 No.22287723 >>22286516 >>favorite prophet Moses >favorite poet Shakespeare >favorite novelist Dickens >favorite philosopher Confucius >favorite playwright Shakespeare >favorite painter Goya

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 03:58:25 No.22287728 >>22287717 no

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 04:02:48 No.22287747 >>22287688 >favorite philosopher >Kanye wesr Stop quoting literally who’s you pseud.

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 06:07:01 No.22288167

>>22287688
>those digits

Thank you Kanye, very cool!

>>22287619
Hell yeah

>>22287723
Based Dickens chad.

>>22287477
Based Tennyson chad. Holbein also a great choice. So good at painting sexy ladies he got Thomas Cromwell killed over it.

>>22287293
>velazquez
>palladio

Very very nice.

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 06:15:52 No.22288185
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>favorite prophet
St. Paul
>favorite composer
Steve Reich
>favorite poet
e.e. cummings
>favorite novelist
Nabokov
>favorite philosopher
Deleuze
>favorite playwright
Shakespeare
>favorite director
Takeshi Kitano
>favorite painter
Goya
>favorite architect
Frank Lloyd Wright

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 06:32:10 No.22288236

>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
Nietzsche
>>favorite composer
Wagner. Unironically, good music.
>>favorite poet
Lovecraft
>>favorite novelist
McCarthy
>>favorite philosopher
Same as the prophet
>>favorite playwright
Don't read them.
>>favorite director
No particular ones, movies deserve to be made as personal expression, one film per director.
>>favorite painter
Bosch
>>favorite architect
None

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 06:42:59 No.22288270 >>22286736 Cringe

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 09:20:40 No.22288540 >>22288185 Based Kitano enjoyer. Also great to see Bresson mentionned so often. Good thread, fine taste overall. You guys are alright.

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 09:31:48 No.22288552

>>22286516

>favorite prophet
Buddha
>favorite composer
Vivaldi
>favorite poet
None.
>favorite novelist
Paulo Coelho as of now
>favorite philosopher
Kant
>favorite playwright
None
>favorite director
Spielberg or Nolan
>favorite painter
None
>favorite architect
None

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 09:32:51 No.22288554 >>22288552 Most plebeian man on the planet, right here.

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 09:42:56 No.22288572

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Elijah's the funniest
>favorite composer
Tie between Beethoven and Bach
>favorite poet
All poetry is terrible
>favorite novelist
Heinlein
>favorite philosopher
Nietzsche
>favorite playwright
Marlowe
>favorite director
Jodorowsky
>favorite painter
Hard to say overall but my favorite painting is a Rembrandt
>favorite architect
JC Warnecke

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 09:43:08 No.22288573 >>22288554 it's bait

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 09:47:58 No.22288578 File: 12 KB, 614x499, images - 2023-07-21T151624.562.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Most plebeian man on the planet, right here

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 09:57:02 No.22288587 >>22286908 >Debussy Based if late period preferred. >>22286962 >Scriabin Based. >>22287386 >Messiaen Based. >>22288236 >Wagner Based.

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>>22286516
>prophet: N/A
>composer: Philip Glass
>poet: W.B. Yeats
>novelist: Haruki Murakami
>philosopher: Theodor Adorno
>playwright: Harold Pinter
>director: Kenji Mizoguchi
>painter: Henry Darger
>architect: Albert Speer

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 10:58:32 No.22288699 >>22286612 We need to complete that half built Bhoja temple in MP

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 11:07:30 No.22288715

>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
The Unabomber
>>favorite composer
Beethoven
>>favorite poet
Mario Quintana
>>favorite novelist
Houellebeqc
>>favorite philosopher
nietzche
>>favorite playwright
Shakespeare
>>favorite director
Wes Anderson
>>favorite painter
Monet
>>favorite architect
My gf

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 11:27:33 No.22288755

>>22286516
Im a proud plebian
>favorite prophet
Krishna
>favorite composer
I like Enya
>favorite poet
I haven't read any
>favorite novelist
Tom Clancy
>favorite philosopher
Krishna
>favorite playwright
Shakespeare is the only one I've read
>favorite director
Micheal Mann
>favorite painter
Hergé
>favorite architect
Subsaharan negroes

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 11:32:05 No.22288766
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>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
Wagner.
>>favorite composer
Wagner.
>>favorite poet
Wagner.
>>favorite novelist
Wagner.
>>favorite philosopher
Wagner.
>>favorite playwright
Wagner.
>>favorite director
Wagner.
>>favorite painter
Wagner.
>>favorite architect
Wagner.

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 11:46:40 No.22288786
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>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Baba Vanga
>favorite composer
paganini
>favorite poet
John keats
>favorite novelist
Vladimir nabokov
>favorite philosopher
Epictetus
>favorite playwright
Not really familiar with playwrights am i forced to say shakespeare
>favorite director
Kurosawa
>favorite painter
John singer Sargent
>favorite architect
Never cared all that much about architecture even as design student
>favorite board
/X/

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 14:51:28 No.22289247

>>22286516
>prophet
Spengler for political philosophy and Tesla for Science
>composer
Don't care. Classical music bores me. Zappa, Hirasawa, Coltrane, Jack white and Casablancas all have a great sense of sound.
>poet
Ashbery for modern aesthetics and Wordsworth for classical. Stopping by the woods on a snowy evening is the best poem though.
>novelist
Cormac McCarthy, and more recently Murnane. Joyce also has an overwhelming prose style.
>philosopher
Heidegger, and John Gray among living ones.
>playwright
Shakespeare. Really like Sam Shepard also. Only loved Endgame and Krapp's last tape from Beckett.
>director
Don't really care for most of them but Bergman is good. Lynch is fine too
>painter
Goya or Rene Magritte. Dali was also a Genius.
>architect
Don't care.

>short story writer
Kafka and Borges

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 15:10:14 No.22289310 >>22286526 Milquetoast top to bottom.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 15:15:09 No.22289326 >>22288715 >>>favorite architect >My gf awwww thats cute

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 16:28:17 No.22289507

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Jesus Christ
>favorite composer
Beethoven
>favorite poet
Jim Harrison
>favorite novelist
Joseph Conrad
>favorite philosopher
Alfred North Whitehead
>favorite playwright
Shakespeare
>favorite director
Sergio Leone
>favorite painter
Andrew Wyeth
>favorite architect
William Van Alen

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 17:13:22 No.22289622 >>22289247 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 17:23:05 No.22289654

>>22286698
>ginsberg
faggot

>>22286526
bland

>>22286748
pleb, cant even complete all the categories

>>22287644
>>22287688
>>22287723
>>22288715
>>22288755
>>22289507
lowbrow

>>22286842
>>22286882
>>22286908
>>22286950
>>22287293
>>22287386
>>22287477
>>22288236
>>22288552
>>22288572
>>22288645
>>22288766
>>22288786
middlebrow

>>22286962
>>22286963
>>22287710
>>22288185
>>22289247
upper-middlebrow

>>22286719
highest brow by far

great thread, separating the plebs from the polymaths here with the mix of medias

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 17:25:42 No.22289661 >>22289654 now post yours

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 17:55:49 No.22289723

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Quazimodo
>favorite composer
Bach
>favorite poet
David Berman
>favorite novelist
David Foster Wallace
>favorite philosopher
Deleuze
>favorite playwright
Shakespeare
>favorite director
Paul Thomas Anderson
>favorite painter
Dali
>favorite architect
Eero Saarinen

and my favorite athlete is Ezekiel Elliott

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 18:04:59 No.22289746 >>22289723 >Berman Any chance you can post a couple of poems in Actual Air?

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 18:56:01 No.22289919

>>22286516
Do not fancy myself 'patrician'
Nonetheless
>prophet
Isaiah
>composer
prefer Telemann's Wassermusik to Handel's; Wagner
>poet
Marvell, Stevens
>novelist
Stendhal, Chartreuse moreso than Rouge, etc./Aragon
>philosopher
Spinoza
>playwright
Shakespeare
>director
Herzog
>painter
Tintoretto/Corot (I like Barbizon)
>architect
kek, probably Gaudi, but was a far earlier admirer of 'Seuss'

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 19:05:14 No.22289951

Retards, like above, are so fucking incompetent they have to list multiple people per category because their insecurity prevents them from following directions. If you can’t list one person per category, you’re a fucking pseud who spent 30 minutes doing research to perfectly curate your pseud response. Sad

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 19:13:41 No.22289986 >>22289951 Kek. Is this the anon who is always harping on curated images?

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 19:18:01 No.22289999

>>22286516
>Prophet: Lao Tzu (Inb4 not a prophet)
>Composer: Claudio Monteverdi
>Poet: Khalil Gibran
>Novelist: Leo Tolstoy / James Joyce
>Philosopher: Jean Baudrillard
>Playwright: Anton Chekhov
>Director: Stanley Kubrick
>Painter: Giovanni Battista Tiepolo
>Architect: Luis Barragán

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 19:20:53 No.22290009 >>22289951 its common of the patrician at a dinner party to toggle through 5 whatevers at any 'favorite' question, thats the nature of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 19:27:52 No.22290035 File: 91 KB, 600x384, IMG_6946.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22290009 > its common of the patrician at a dinner party to toggle through 5 whatevers at any 'favorite' question, thats the nature of them

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 19:28:52 No.22290041 >>22289951 Gee, anon, (you) nailed /me/ But then I'm no 'patrician' --as stated

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 19:46:27 No.22290093 >>22289999 holy checked

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 19:46:59 No.22290096 >>22289951 I think the avoidance of direct confrontation rather highlights your own insecurity here, m8. Just sayin'.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 19:50:36 No.22290113 >>22290096 Cry more, pseud.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:03:24 No.22290145 >>22290113 Kek. Down, girl

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:07:19 No.22290163 >>22286516 >Jeremiah >Dvorak >Ashberry >O'Connor >Kierkegaard >Beckett >not into movies >Merson >not into architecture

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:07:19 No.22290164 >>22290113 You always bitch about anons’ favorites but I never see you put forth what a “true” list should look like

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:08:26 No.22290166 >>22290163 >Ashberrry

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:13:48 No.22290192 >>22290113 Hey, fren, I'm the one you responded to and I really don't care one way or the other desu. Just so you know these above dudes aren't me

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:21:44 No.22290227

>>22289951
A variety of answers makes the thread more interesting. I separated mine as honorable mentions and personal choices because I wanted to be honest about my actual, pretty unremarkable, favorites but also provide the personal touch that prevents these threads from being exercises in redundancy just repeating the top-tier classics. Also, it can obviously be hard to pick a favorite, sometimes it’s clear sometimes not so much.

>>22289919
>Marvell
>Telemann

Good lad.

>> 22289247
Favorite Ashbery poems? I’m on the fence about him but I can’t help kinda liking him.

>>22289507
>Conrad
>Whitehead

My nigga

>>22289654
It’s very obvious your algorithm here was 100% based on the composer category, lol. Do better anon

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:25:37 No.22290240 >>22290227 Nah, you just have shit taste, retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:29:31 No.22290251 >>22290227 I don’t understand how someone can have a single favorite. It always depends on my mood and mindset

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:38:10 No.22290283

>>22290240
Ok you’re right anon, clearly the rarefied selections of Goya (3x), Dali, ee cummings, PKD, McCarthy, Mishima, Wright, Fuller, “don’t care”, Schopenhauer, Bergman, Lynch and Hitchcock deserve to be elevated above the crowd.

Nothing against those anons or those picks btw but there’s nothing noticeably special about them. Should’ve just stuck to vaguely calling everyone else a pleb, it’s safer that way.

>>22290251
Yeah I would probably have had different picks on a different day but all my favorite picks felt pretty solid even if I wouldn’t necessarily have thought of them that way without being prompted.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:44:03 No.22290304 >>22290251 Yeah, I agree. Whenever I answer these things I appoint what first comes to mind, subject to change (of course) day to day almost. t. dif anon

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:53:38 No.22290332 Ultimately everything is either a cope to make us feel better about ourselves. That or something to temporarily forget about mortality

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 20:57:01 No.22290346 >>22290332 Ultimately both supermarkets and gas stations serve us biomass; no way around this

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 21:10:39 No.22290383 >>22290346 I do love me some biomass indeed

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 21:13:43 No.22290394

favorite prophet Obadiah
favorite composer F. Chopin
favorite poet Virgil/Ovid
favorite novelist Thomas Wolfe
favorite philosopher Edmund Husserl
favorite playwright Sophocles
favorite director Michael Cimino
favorite painter Titian
favorite architect R. Buckminster Fuller

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 21:41:36 No.22290479

>>22286516
Not a patrician, I doubt any of them exist any more. If they do, they probably don't post here
>favorite prophet
Joseph smith
>favorite composer
Vivaldi/Tchaikovsky or Chopin
>favorite poet
Kipling, but I don't like poetry
>favorite novelist
My favourite authors did not write novels as far as I understand, hence I guess conrad.
>favorite philosopher
I do not read philosophy. Nietzche, I guess.
>favorite playwright
Lope de vega
>favorite director
I do not watch cinema often, Sergio leone
>favorite painter
Goya
>favorite architect
Yakov Chernikhov, like bouille, he didn't actually build anything important. But he drew lots.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 21:46:16 No.22290499 >>22290479 You know what. I recant my choice of Goya. I like bosch more on retrospect.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 21:47:14 No.22290501 >>22290283 its just all of them put together seen as a whole

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 22:15:25 No.22290612

>>22290479
>Yakov Chernikhov, like bouille, he didn't actually build anything important. But he drew lots.

Would be cool to have some kind of coffee-table-book type collection of drawings by "outsider" architects like these guys or Piranesi.

>>22290501
Eh yeah I suppose the majority of the "middlebrow" ones are just not that good. But I like the Tennyson/Holbein list, the tripfag's list, and the Velazquez/Palladio list and of course my own better than the Dvorak list and the Reich list. Probably just shows my bias for painting and architecture though.

The Zappa list has some deep cuts although his sensibilities about classical, architecture and film all trigger me, and the Scriabin and Mompou lists are both solid across the board if not super esoteric. It is funny to see how that one guy stands out so much though, certainly humbling to me although the jury is still out for me on a lot of modern aesthetics.

Also the guy who said "all poetry is terrible" and then picked Heinlein for his novelist should have his own tier where he gets to drool and gnaw on plastic blocks and moan incoherently and beat his head against the wall until his handler comes and restrains him and changes his diaper. Just my opinion though of course.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 22:30:38 No.22290666 File: 2.05 MB, 4032x3024, 5F7EBC09-BD47-4766-9EAC-5EB8EAC6B17F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22289746

Anonymous Fri, Jul 21, 2023 23:38:36 No.22290892

>>22290612
>the guy who said "all poetry is terrible" and then picked Heinlein for his novelist
Poetry is stillborn songwriting and reading a poem is like looking at a harlequin baby. And I grew out of pretending that popular things are bad back in my second year of college.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 02:01:18 No.22291216

>>22290892
>no I’m not an 80 iq anti-intellectual pleb, I just created an arbitrary autistic justification for my contrarianism

So you’re a based retard instead of a regular retard, nice. This just means your favorite poet is your favorite lyricist.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 02:05:44 No.22291239 >>22289622 What you laughing at idiot?

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 02:13:10 No.22291258
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>>22286516
>Prophet
Elijah
>Composer
Brian Wilson
>Poet
Alexander Pushkin
>Novelist
Fyodor Dostoyevsky
>Philosopher
Peter
>Playwright
Anton Chekhov
>Director
Andrzej Zuławski
>Painter
John Martin
>Architect
Hiram

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 02:13:37 No.22291263 >>22290612 Spamming pseud comments while redditspacing is the most plebian thing imaginable. Atleast I am secure in my taste.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 03:35:13 No.22291482

>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
Don't know any
>>favorite composer
Don't know any that I like
>>favorite poet
Pope
>>favorite novelist
Gogol
>>favorite philosopher
Haven't read any. Maybe Homer from The Simpsons
>>favorite playwright
Haven't read any
>>favorite director
I don't watch movies
>>favorite painter
I don't look at paintings
>>favorite architect
I don't look at buildings

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 03:47:56 No.22291512 >>22286516 Let's have a guess who the women are.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 03:53:19 No.22291525 lmao this board is so sad

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 03:55:30 No.22291533 >>22291525 why

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 03:56:11 No.22291534 >>22290479 Woman. >>22290394 Woman. >>22288552 Woman. >>22287723 Woman. >>22287386 Tranny. >>22286962 Tranny.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 03:57:31 No.22291539 >>22286516 So I see everyone just picking who they think will impress other pseuds

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 03:58:21 No.22291541 >>22287720 I try >>22289654 Nice. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 04:01:44 No.22291549 >>22291534 I'm not a woman. You are just a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 04:04:56 No.22291558 >>22291549 Also reddit spacing.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 04:06:49 No.22291563

>>22291539
>>22291549
>>22291558
>favorite prophet
None
>favorite composer
Wagner, Sibelius, Mahler
>favorite poet
Me
>favorite novelist
None
>favorite philosopher
Nietzsche and Heidegger
>favorite playwright
None
>favorite director
Kazan
>favorite painter
Modigliani
>favorite architect
None

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 04:08:15 No.22291567

>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
Qoheleth
>>favorite composer
Mozart
>>favorite poet
Housman
>>favorite novelist
Woolf
>>favorite philosopher
Hume
>>favorite playwright
Sophocles
>>favorite director
N/A
>>favorite painter
Raphael
>>favorite architect
Longhena

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 05:26:55 No.22291706 >favorite prophet Myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 06:03:44 No.22291766 >>22291533 theres no merit in trying to seek the approval of anonymous strangers on the internet. It comes off as desperate and pathetic every time

>>	Femboy4prez !!QtZ5ahYRiUC Sat, Jul 22, 2023 06:15:54 No.22291784 >>22291534 I was almost impressed then I remembered my trip lol

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 06:19:30 No.22291792 >>22291766 are we seeking approval or connecting over common interests?

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 06:41:23 No.22291823

>>22286516
>prophet
Dunno. Never paid much attention to the Old Testament. John I guess?

>Composer
Wagner, by far.

>Poet
Pope or Milton

>Novelist
Peake.

>Philosopher
Wagner, though I suppose he's more a general artist/critic than pure philosopher. More traditional philosophy I would go Plato I guess. Can't beat the original.

>Playwright.
Shakespeare, obviously. Or Wagner. I like Wagner a lot.

>Director
Leone or Lumet.

>Painter
I never cared for painting.

>Architect
Piranesi or Boullee

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 07:04:19 No.22291858

>>22291766
I mean the "are you patrician" part is a silly larp but I am hugely in favor of any thread that tries to bring in discussion of all artforms together, it's extremely important imo and helps you see literature in different, more interesting and more meaningful ways. Would certainly be better if people elaborated, engaged with others, etc., a little more, but even just looking at people's lists is very interesting because it allows you to think about what, say, poet X and painter Y might have in common that would cause them to be favored by the same person.

Take the example of >>22291567: to me Raphael is usually just "the 'School of Athens' one", the middle ground between Da Vinci and Michelangelo, and doesn't capture my interest a whole lot, but since I like Woolf and Housman and Ecclesiastes I went back and looked at his works more closely and got a better sense of their power, liveliness and poetry. Also makes me more excited to get into reading the Greek tragedies seeing someone with solid taste picking Sophocles as a favorite. And it goes without saying it can be great for recommendations - if you know a lot about film but not much about music, you can pick out people who align with your taste in film and use their music picks as indicators of composers who might interest you.

The world is a big, fascinating place out there, there's so much to see and do, should you ever decide to stop being a snide backbiting little faggot.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 07:12:09 No.22291868

>favorite prophet
Not familiar enough with religion to pick one
>favorite composer
Bill Evans
>favorite poet
Haven’t read enough to pick one
>favorite novelist
Mishima
>favorite philosopher
Spinoza
>favorite playwright
Shakespeare
>favorite director
Safdie bros
>favorite painter
Bart van der Leck
>favorite architect
Richard Neutra

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 12:12:07 No.22292327
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Fellow would-be-patricians, have any of you ever read a book that made you cry?
If so, which book(s)?

I cried while reading the following:

The Unknown Soldier - Vaino Linna
Hard Times - Charles Dickens
Little Dorrit - Charles Dickens
Black Beauty - Anna Sewell
Night - Elie Wiesel

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 12:14:19 No.22292333 >>22291534 fairly accurate

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 13:09:14 No.22292460

>>22291858
I actually think patrician is the best ingroup word for a specific slice of highbrow media/philosophy/anything. look up "patrician x charts" and its always better than most charts made here. it doesn't actually denote patrician just the omnipresent tongue-in-cheek use of patrician (which I think ironically has now become it). I found this prompt in the 2017 lit archives from looking up random combinations of painter/poet - architect/composer etc -- I think it's a soulful spread. should have added something more STEM though. the mix of humanities and stem is the best to provoke out of people.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 13:21:29 No.22292485

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Jeremiah on a personal level Isaiah for what God reveals.
>favorite composer
Rachmaninoff
>favorite poet
Rumi for more spiritual moods and Swinburne for technique
>favorite novelist
I don't love novels but Gogol honestly
>favorite philosopher
Socrates for feeling like I'm expanding myself by the nobility of the humans spirit and St. Thomas Aquinas for the sheer terror of his accuracy
>favorite playwright
Shakespeare but underread here
>favorite director
John Ford
>favorite painter
JMW Turner
>favorite architect
Michaelangelo because St. peter's but I don't know many. I like Ghery?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 13:22:39 No.22292491 >>22291534 Fairly inaccurate

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 14:14:29 No.22292632 >>22286516 Beethoven Nietzsche Titian, Bosch, Da-Vinci

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 14:28:11 No.22292676

>>22286516
>>22286516
are you patrician?
i will ask my father.
>favorite prophet
daniel johnston
>favorite composer
charlie parker
>favorite poet
thomas campion
>favorite novelist
plato
>favorite philosopher
alexander grothendieck
>favorite playwright
henry fielding
>favorite director
charlie chaplin
>favorite painter
william bailey
>favorite architect
louis sullivan

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 14:46:27 No.22292716

>favorite prophet
Pynchon
>favorite composer
Shostakovich
>favorite poet
Eliot
>favorite novelist
Nabokov
>favorite philosopher
The Vedas
>favorite playwright
Beckett... if you held a gun to my head
>favorite director
Hitchcock
>favorite painter
Goya
>favorite architect
Don't have one

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 14:53:15 No.22292733

>>22286516
>prophet
Budha
>composer
Bethoven
>poet
Dante
>Novelist
Selby Jr
> philosopher
Nietzche
>playwright
Shakespere
>director
havent watched MK ultra in ages so probably Peter Jackson for his LOTR trilogy
> painter
Caravaggio
>Architect
Adolf HITLER

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 14:54:53 No.22292737 >>22286713 >dont care not a patrician hate to break it to you nigga.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 14:55:55 No.22292740 >>22286748 post tits

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 15:16:13 No.22292793
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>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
Saint John of Kronstadt
>>favorite composer
JS Bach
>>favorite poet
Edgar Allan Poe
>>favorite novelist
Fyodor Dostoyevsky
>>favorite philosopher
Saint Maximus the Confessor
>>favorite playwright
William Shakespeare
>>favorite director
David Lynch
>>favorite painter
Albrecht Dürer
>>favorite architect
Gothic

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 17:20:26 No.22293097 bump

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 17:40:47 No.22293149 >>22286516 >favorite prophet Elijah >favorite composer Liszt >favorite poet Emerson >favorite novelist King >favorite philosopher Hume >favorite playwright none >favorite director Apatow >favorite painter Banksy >favorite architect Gerhy

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 17:44:38 No.22293159 File: 6 KB, 194x259, Untitled0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22293149 >Banksy KEK

MUSLIM BOI Sat, Jul 22, 2023 18:28:24 No.22293278

I consider myself a patrician
>>favorite prophet Jesus Christ. The fact that he basically was a student of a rabbi and with the help of God detroyed their caste and jews today still seeting calling him the reincarnation of Esau (Caos) is kino
>>favorite composer Vivaldi. Just do yourself a favor and listen to 4 stagioni by Giardino Armonico
>>favorite poet Probably Rumi. He is the creme of the creme of poetry. His poems are one phrase style the exact opposite of diluition. "Rumi — 'You are not a drop in the ocean. You are the entire ocean in a drop"
>>favorite novelist Edgar Allan Poe. He ruined literature for me. I cannot read anything else anymore. Peak content and peak style.
>>favorite philosopher Philosophy its a scam, id doesnt exist. The real philosophy of men is enfused in the oral tradition
>>favorite playwright still need to decide, maybe Shakespeare
>>favorite director Nolan. The Prestige is my favourite movie, do a favor and go watch it. You will like it i promise
>>favorite painter ludwig deutsch
>>favorite architect whoever does Gothic and Rococo

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 19:04:37 No.22293391

>>22286516
I would definitely not consider myself patrician.
>favorite prophet
Jeremiah, unless Jesus Himself counts
>favorite composer
Chopin
>favorite poet
Dickinson
>favorite novelist
Marilynne Robinson
>favorite philosopher
Kierkegaard
>favorite playwright
Shakespeare
>favorite director
Xavier Beauvois
>favorite painter
Jean-Léon Gérôme
>favorite architect
Whomever built my home, because it's a nice little home.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 22, 2023 22:51:20 No.22294137

>>22292460
Yeah I didn't really mean that in a negative way, just trying to point out to that guy that he was taking it too seriously. I do really love the concept, you should post it again sometime after this one dies. Kinda awkward because it results in a lot of the same people posting the same lists but also worthwhile in the sense that it allows you to more fully explore the deep potential for discussion of those same lists.

>>22292485
Very cool choices, I was beginning to worry I'd be the only one to pick Turner, makes me feel less alone on here. I'll nitpick and say you probably like Bramante more so than Michelangelo if you're just going off of St Peter's.

>>22291823
Nice list, love the Pope pick.

>>22292327
W&P, The Things They Carried, Middlemarch, poems by Hardy and Yeats.

>>22292676
Clever, but insufferably so. Bailey is lovely though so thanks for that.

>>22293391
Wholesome. Was also worrying I'd be the only one to pick Dickinson, and she deserves way more than just my feeble appreciation.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 01:15:56 No.22294590 >>22294137 >Pope Yeah, he's great. There's poets who have written better poems, but for me Pope has the most consistent high quality across his works, and for wit he cannot be beaten.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 04:44:45 No.22295109 >>22294137 >insufferably so what makes you say that?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 06:07:42 No.22295312

>>22291792
>>22291858
theres no worthwile discussions happening in this thread or any thread like this. At most, you will get some interesting recommendations to follow up on. But you know full well that none of you faggots are posting your lists here to have "genuine discussions", you just want to be (you)'d with a "based" so you can get that dopamine kick. Dont try to spin it into something bigger than that. If you want a thread with genuine discussions, start those fucking discussions, and say it plainly without any retarded "larping" or memery. Everyone knows its not a larp, you are genuinely concerned about appearing "patrician" to a bunch of complete strangers. Dont pretend this is not a desperate attempt to feel validated.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 06:16:44 No.22295327

>>22295312
It’s not that serious. People like saying what they enjoy and bonding over common interests, maybe getting a rec or two. If you don’t like the thread, I’m sure there are others for you. The whole I’m stopping into this thread to tell you I’m above you thing is pretty corny

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 06:19:13 No.22295331 >>22286516 >Joseph Smith >Bartok >Eliot >Pynchon >Carnap >Sophocles >Dreyer >Van Gogh >Peter and Alison Smithson

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 06:22:04 No.22295337 >>22292716 Incredibly based >>22292733 Its spelled Neechee >>22292793 Christcuck >>22293149 Pedestrian >>22293391 Elderly

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 06:22:38 No.22295338

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Samuel
>favorite composer
Dvorak
>favorite poet
Virgil
>favorite novelist
Tolkien
>favorite philosopher
Aquinas
>favorite playwright
Wagner
>favorite director
George Lucas
>favorite painter
Botticelli
>favorite architect
Brunelleschi

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 06:27:40 No.22295356

>>22292327
I cried reading the section of Mason and Dixon where Mason's father futilely tries to reconnect with his son. Hard Times carried a lot of emotional weight despite being the most didactic of Dickens' later works. I can imagine it would hit hard for anyone with an addict in the family.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 06:31:39 No.22295367

>>22286516
>prophet: religion is cringe, just because the millennials were blasphemers doesn't mean belief in a higher power has any validity
>composer: classical music is overrated, no bass and effects make it rather dull generally speaking
>poet: poetry is cringe, it's overwrought nonsense
>philosopher: philosophy is cringe, pointless bullshit
>playwright: theater is cringe, it's overwrought nonsense

>novelist: jules verne
>director: coen brothers
>painter: tamara de łempicka
>architect: mies van der rohe

I may be on the wrong board.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 06:34:21 No.22295377

>>22295327
I am above this, and you should be too. I'm stopping into this thread to tell you to be better, stop simulating and focus on your real self, get rid of the insecurities that make you want to come here to post a soulless list to no one, stop assimilating into what the internet has become and trying to rank everything into tier lists, into based or cringe. Dont rationalize this behavior into telling yourself you are connecting with people. You are bonding with no one, you are bonding with your computer screen and the inflated versions of you that live in your head and you project onto the people posting here. Stop being so masturbatory and circle-jerky. I dont think its healthy. But whatever, you do you

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 06:48:08 No.22295414

>>22295109
Just reads as tryhard quirky to me. Your passion for those things may be sincere though, it’s between you and God.

>>22294590
So much range of imagination and subject matter, and such natural grace and clarity. What do you think about Dryden? I was talking to someone earlier in the thread who compared his translations to Pope’s and said they were better, but imo both of them were just masterful. Milton’s great too, almost as technically skilled as those guys in his own weird way. Also do you have a favorite by Pope? I would have to go with the Dunciad, just the concept alone is amazing and the silliness of it makes the craft stand out even more.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 06:57:46 No.22295439

>>22295377
The board is dead but I can’t leave so I just like to see the interests in the /lit/ community and other general threads. I would love if there was more discussion but every time I make a thread that isn’t in the lit top 20 it is archived by the time I come back it is archived with 0-5 replies. Once again, the board is dead so you shouldn’t take it too seriously. I’d take these threads over the incel/pol/books for/pseudophilosophy qa threads that plague the board.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 07:05:23 No.22295453 >>22286657 >Schnittke Very based.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 07:18:29 No.22295476

>>22286516
favourite prophet: unironically moses but the bible sucks. Moses is the most Aryan jew to ever live.
favourite composer: mozart
favourite poet: Dante
favourite novelist: Caeser (his military diaries should be treated as fiction)
favourite philosopher: Plato, nietzche close second. Plato could not forsee the diesisese of christianity.
favourite playwright: Only read shakesperes macbeth, was very good though
favourite director: spielberg. Another deceptively aryan jew. were any jews gassed in list. was Goeth really aryan?
favourite painter: Caravaggio
Favourite Architect: my mum and grandpaps..

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 07:29:12 No.22295488

>>22295439
I can completely sympathize with this. I agree with everything you said. Its just very frustrating that there is no place on the internet where you can consistently have intelligent, genuine discussions. I personally think it's not just this board, the whole internet has been getting worse and worse with time. The internet of today is not really a place to connect with people anymore, it has basically become the western version of the Chinese social credit system. Its an auto-disciplinary system, a place for people to identify you and judge the quality of your character, so you can be treated accordningly irl. Its a marketplace of personalities, and so many people become more concerned with their image than anything real. This, combined with the all-consuming (post)-ironic culture that we have created for ourselves, and that prematurely kills every attempt at sincerity, has created a mostly performative world that has been so internalized, that even in an anonymous imageboard we act not naturally, but as though the whole world is watching us

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 07:45:25 No.22295509

>>22295488
I do agree to a certain extent but we are anonymous here so it’s very narcissistic and insecure if anons are tailoring their list to look highbrow. I’ve always found it’s better to take people at face value. The thread is a little bit masturbatory but you have to put yourself out there in some way to get any hits. Sadly I’ve found list type threads, like this, or stack and shelf threads best for throwing a lot of shit out there and seeing if anyone responds. We just have to do what we can. Don’t shitpost in legitimate threads, bump those same threads even if you feel lame because you don’t have much to say, or posting about the book you are reading. It’s tough to get morale up to actually make single book threads because the board is too fast. If the board is going to be improved it’s going to take a concerted effort if the jannies aren’t going to do anything. It sucks but I’ve learned to like general low hanging fruit threads compared to the rest of the board

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 08:00:38 No.22295535 >>22295509 yeah, i guess youre right, its very hard to fight it, theres not much of a point. Its probably better to learn to accept it for what it is. It does make me sad, but maybe i am being too cynical

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 08:12:29 No.22295550
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>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Daniel
>favorite composer
Rachmaninoff
>favorite poet
TS Eliot
>favorite novelist
Dostoyevsky
>favorite philosopher
St Maximos the Confessor
>favorite playwright
Beckett
>favorite director
Tarkovsky
>favorite painter
John Atkinson Grimshaw
>favorite architect
Isidore and Anthemius

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 08:12:52 No.22295551

>>22295509
The jannies do important stuff like deleting threads where people are talking about aesthetic philosophy because the OP was made with direct references to painting and music without throwing in a cursory mention of some author that was part of the same aesthetic tendency. This sounds vaguely understandable, if unnecessarily strict, unless you are someone who is actually familiar with the board and sees the threads that survive all day, from low-effort reposted bait OPs to legitimate gimmick cancer spam threads to "when was the last time you had sex" with a frog picture (going on 10 hours that one's been up). But nope, can't let people talk about Lyotard and Bataille and aesthetic philosophies of modernism vs. postmodernism, because the OP failed to put "books for this feel?" in his post.

This is just an irrelevant rant but it does play into why (directed at >>22295488) I am enthusiastic about a format where discussion about other artistic media that either lack dedicated boards, or that are restricted to single general threads on their own boards, can potentially occur. That's the reason I've taken more interest in this thread as opposed to other "favorites list" threads (though I have had quite good, albeit combative, discussions in those, and there was one that I wish I had just bumped when it was on the edge instead of writing a full reply because there were already some interesting recs being given), and have tried to engage people and compliment them and hopefully make them feel good about the prospect of engaging in more wide-ranging discussions. Should I do more than just say "hey I love these choices" to different people? Yeah, sure, but I want to at least get that part out there and I don't always have the time/energy to go into more detail. And fwiw I do genuinely feel something resembling a "connection" when I see one other person in the thread who picks the same thing as me, obviously something like this is not a replacement for friendship but it buoys the spirit to know there are people who understand and share certain sensibilities you hold very close to your heart.

I don't think the internet is necessarily doomed, it's just a machine that will try to make money where it can, which is usually done by appealing to the worst in people. "Intelligent, genuine discussion" has always been a rare treasure both on the internet and in person, and I think the effect that changing structures exert on the availability of that particular (again, very rare and not to be found in any predictable or systematic way) commodity is probably marginal.

>>22295338
>Brunelleschi

I had to put the Hagia Sophia architects over him because they were the OGs but he was extremely cool. Botticelli is great too, there was some painting that an anon posted on here a while back that had such a cool shadowy background with like golden-orange fruit standing out against it, reminded me of some fin de siecle illustration.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 08:20:53 No.22295562

>>22295550
Bit scary how well this aligns with my picks, albeit I put more than one for most categories (Grimshaw being very similar to Turner/Whistler, plus Isidore/Anthemius especially, plus Eliot, plus Tarkovsky, plus Beckett). I also don't know much about Maximos but once I asked an anon about him and I found his description (something about all living things being like "shards" of God which were united in Christ?) to be incredibly poetic. Love Dosto too although I haven't read much of him. You perhaps should try Andrey Bely if you haven't, I think a lot of the sensibilities he appeals to in me might be the same ones evidenced by some of your choices (also you seem to like Russians in general and he has a lot to say about Russian identity).

Anyway, I hope you can feel some satisfaction in knowing that some faggot out there thinks you are pretty cool.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 08:31:34 No.22295582

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Terry Davis
>favorite composer
Gorecki
>favorite poet
Neruda
>favorite novelist
Borges
>favorite philosopher
Keirkegaard
>favorite playwright
Beckett
>favorite director
Tarkovsky
>favorite painter
Kim Keever
>favorite architect
Julio Lafuente

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 08:35:47 No.22295588

>>22295562
Thank you for the kind words. I do wonder what the common thread is through all of our preferences.

Yes, that other anon was right in his high level description of St Maximos. The logoi in his thinking are effectively the concepts that existed in God's mind prior to creation which He freely willed to be created once He created the universe. As such, creation is the expression of these many logoi. Though they are unified in the one Logos of God - so they are many and one simultaneously. I find his "On the Cosmic Mystery of Christ" to be quite profound too. His understanding of soteriology is in some ways quite distinct to western understandings. I'd liken it more to St Athanasius in how there is an ontological restoration of all creation in the Incarnation. So, as you could probably work out, St Maximos has Platonic threads in his thinking but I wouldn't squarely call him a Platonist - he is a Christian after all.

I haven't read Andrey Bely but I will have a look. I'd be curious to know what sort of sensibilities do you refer to exactly.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 08:40:40 No.22295600

>>22295551
>unless you are someone who is actually familiar with the board and sees the threads that survive all day, from low-effort reposted bait OPs to legitimate gimmick cancer spam threads to "when was the last time you had sex" with a frog picture (going on 10 hours that one's been up).

This is the most maddening part of the board. It chaps my cheeks when anons ignore those threads but barge into others to complain. I get the annoyance that the one anon has with /lit/, many feel it, but like you are saying there is aesthetic sensibilities that cross over into other media and art forms. It’s always cool when you see someone who likes the same things as you, especially if they’re more niche, maybe an anon can get a rec or two, or maybe even the much sought for discussion happens. The thread is fine IMO

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 08:43:04 No.22295604

>favorite prophet
Buber
>favorite composer
Scriabin
>favorite poet
Rilke
>favorite novelist
Dostoyevsky/Pynchon
>favorite philosopher
Emerson/Nietzsche
>favorite playwright
Aiskhýlos
>favorite director
Tarkovsky/Aleksei German/David Blair
>favorite painter
Paolo Uccello
>favorite architect
Master Gerhard

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 09:10:12 No.22295650

>>22295588
That is really beautiful, thank you for explaining. Anyway Bely has some deep connections to those ideas about salvation as unification, he connects to Dosto in terms of the examination of the dark, unfathomable side of human nature (and murder more specifically; he was definitely directly influenced in some ways although he's quite different in other ways), connects to Tarkovsky more generally in terms of his spiritual concerns and use of symbols, connects to Beckett generally in terms of absurd humor, the instability of identity, and anti-structure, anti-knowledge sentiment, and to Eliot in terms of dealing with apocalyptic changes and the meeting of time and eternity. Also a lot of his scenery has the same sort of atmosphere as the painting you posted (and he was a mathematician so that connects to Isidore and Anthemius as well, lol). I'm pretty sure his biggest influences were Pushkin and Gogol though.

As for the common thread, for me I think I come to those things through a combination of sincere spiritual searching combined with a deep commitment to aesthetics as spiritually significant in themselves. Your reasons may be different but either way I appreciate your taste.

>>22295604
>Master Gerhard

You ever read War & War by Krasznahorkai? I only mention it because the building of Cologne Cathedral and its interruption figures in it as one of a few major historical touchstones that make up a general narrative of Europe.

>Uccello

Why him in particular? I am woefully unversed in Renaissance stuff beyond the big names.

>>22295600
Yeah, I'd say those threads are not even worth preaching to though, best just to report and move on. I appreciate that he at least argued the point in good faith, and he wasn't totally wrong in my case, but I think as long as one is honest in one's choices, there are plenty of worse ways to seek validation.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 09:18:17 No.22295665
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>favorite prophet
Jesus
>favorite composer
Bach/Monteverdi/Messiaen
>favorite poet
Pieter Corneliszoon Hooft
>favorite novelist
James Joyce, Fernando Pessoa, Louis Paul Boon, Mccarthy
>favorite philosopher
Spinoza, Kierkegaard
>favorite playwright
Beckett I guess. Not super into them
>favorite director
Bergman, Bresson, Tarkovsky, Fellini
>favorite painter
Vincent van Gogh,George Hendrik Breitner
>favorite architect
None

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 09:34:24 No.22295692
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>>22295650
Thanks for this. Is there anything that I should start with for Bely? Speaking of Russians, I started readings "Reflections of a Russian Statesman" by Pobedonostsev but then I got distracted by other things. I have a nasty habit of deciding to read too many things at once. Though, I was thoroughly enjoying it especially given my political sympathies. If you're interested in works concerning salvation read St Athanasius' "On the Incarnation" as flagged earlier. To me, it's Christian soteriology 101.
>As for the common thread, for me I think I come to those things through a combination of sincere spiritual searching combined with a deep commitment to aesthetics as spiritually significant in themselves
I think I'd agree with this which is why I put Isidore and Anthemius as my favourite architects. A little while ago I was reading about how the auditory qualities of Hagia Sophia were specifically designed for liturgical purposes - same thing with its internal lighting and how they emphasise specific icons. Though this was from journal articles so I can't really recommend any specific books. I'd also add that there is a thread of melancholy in all of our preferences but not necessarily a narcissistic "woe is me" one. Hidden in all of it is desire and expectation of redemption despite it being so obscured and hidden by the spirit of the age and our own sin. It's what Orthodox monks call "joyful mourning".

>>	MUSLIM BOI Sun, Jul 23, 2023 09:58:56 No.22295726 >>22295562 beautiful ideas. It make sense because Adam was created giving a form to earth and God breathed in it

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 10:09:58 No.22295745
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>>22295650
>why Uccello?
It’s hard to say. This painting just struck me like no other has. It’s mystical, I can’t explain it. I’m currently searching for a skilled local painter that can paint me a quality reproduction. I can’t and won’t argue for his greatness, it’s a personal and emotional thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 10:47:30 No.22295789 >>22295745 It's generic. You are an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 10:53:31 No.22295798 >>22295789 As I said. It’s personal. My truth. Brush up on some Kierkegaard and Nietzsche’s Perspectivism.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 11:01:49 No.22295811

>>22295414
I'll admit to not having read that much of Dryden, but what I have is missing that spark of brilliance that makes Pope so enjoyable to me; not to put down Dryden in any way. Pope is just so lavish and fun and vivacious, and Dryden doesn't quite reach that for me. Maybe it's that I haven't read enough of him, I don't know. My favourite of Pope's would have to be a toss up between the Essay on Man and Rape of the Lock; Essay for it's wisdom, Rape for it's sheer silliness. I'm currently reading through his Iliad translation and that's been excellent too, questions on accuracy to the original notwithstanding.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 11:13:22 No.22295824 >>22295811 weird because I see the inverse of that. to me Pope and Dryden strike me how Kant and Hegel feel as a duo. one is the straight shot, the other is the self-bending trip. his Virgil is mystic.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 12:47:12 No.22295961
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>>22286516
Prophet: The Buddha
Composer: Mozart
Poet: Borges
Novelist: Mishima
Philosopher: Nietzsche
Playwright:Shakespeare
Director: Tarkovsky
Painter: Turner
Architect: Takashi Yamaguchi

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 13:03:05 No.22295990
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>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Lol, I don't give a fuck about your fairy tales
>favorite composer
I don't listen to "classical" music
>favorite poet
I also hate poetry
>favorite novelist
H.G. Wells
>favorite philosopher
Saint Max
>favorite playwright
I don't like théâtre neither
>favorite director
Sergio Leone
>favorite painter
Paul Gauguin
>favorite architect
None

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 13:14:33 No.22296007 File: 429 KB, 1366x683, c9f44c34-1426946228.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22287001 >Boullée My black gentleman.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 13:22:44 No.22296025
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>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
Ezekiel (st John if "prophet")
>>favorite composer
Camille Saint-Saens
>>favorite poet
Charles Baudelaire
>>favorite novelist
Jules Barbey d'Aurevilly
>>favorite philosopher
Edmund Husserl
>>favorite playwright
Jean Racine
>>favorite director
John Ford
>>favorite painter
Gustave Moreau
>>favorite architect
Eugene Viollet-le-Duc

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 13:44:12 No.22296053
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>favorite prophet: Jesus
>favorite composer: Chopin
>favorite poet: Tennyson
>favorite novelist: Joyce
>favorite philosopher: Junger
>favorite playwright: Shakesphere
>favorite director: Polanski
>favorite painter: Raphael
>favorite architect: Bramante

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 14:24:14 No.22296129 >>22286516 >Hermes >Bach >William Blake >Cormac McCarthy >Plato >filtered by theatre >Kubrick >anything realism >Álvaro Siza

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 16:21:38 No.22296444 Daniel Rachmaninoff Ezra Pound Dostoyevsky Guenon Don't know many, probably Shakespeare Robert Eggers John William Waterhouse Joseph Connolly

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 16:35:24 No.22296482

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
bacon
>favorite composer
mozart
>favorite poet
spenser
>favorite novelist
waugh
>favorite philosopher
bacon
>favorite playwright
shakespeare collaboration
>favorite director
coppola
>favorite painter
vermeer
>favorite architect
unknown gothic cathedrals

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 16:36:40 No.22296486 >>22290666 Thank you, mr devil

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 16:42:32 No.22296508

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
cristian rosenkreutz
>favorite composer
mozart
>favorite poet
byron
>favorite novelist
waugh
>favorite philosopher
leibniz
>favorite playwright
shakespeare collaboration
>favorite director
coppola
>favorite painter
vermeer
>favorite architect
unknown gothic cathedrals

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 17:26:52 No.22296678 >>22286516 >Blake >Mahler >Blake >Dan Simmons? (I mostly read horror short stories, so I can confidently say Ligotti for that) >Aristotle >Lorca >John Carpenter >Remington >Claude Bragdon

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 17:53:38 No.22296765 >>22292485 >>22295550 >>22296444 >Rachmaninoff Thoughts on Scriabin and Medtner, lads?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 18:15:02 No.22296819 >>22292793 bump desu

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 19:41:15 No.22297120 >>22295414 fair enough lol. glad you like bailey though, he's fantastic. check out mark karnes

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 20:23:26 No.22297303

>>22286516
Prophet: Dante, Nietzsche
Composer: Beethoven, Chopin, Wagner, Monteverdi, Bellini, Verdi, Brahms, Debussy
Poet: Homer and Dante
Novelist: Cervantes, Flaubert, Proust
Philosopher: Aristotle, Hume, Leopardi
Playwright: Aeschylus
Director: Antonioni, late Buñuel, late Renoir, late Welles
Painter: della Francesca, Bellini, Raphael, Uccello, Botticelli, Bronzino, Tiepolo, Poussin, Velázquez, Goya, Wyndham Lewis
Architect: Palladio, Borromini

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 20:23:59 No.22297306 >>22297303 Lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 20:42:27 No.22297363 >>22297303 based antonioni enjoyer

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 20:43:42 No.22297367 >>22286516 I can’t read, see, or hear. I am Helen Keller

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 21:37:42 No.22297538

>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
Jonah
>>favorite composer
Mozart, Schubert, Wagner, Janacek
>>favorite poet
Homer
>>favorite novelist
V.S. Naipaul
>>favorite philosopher
George Berkeley
>>favorite playwright
Shakespeare
>>favorite director
Michael Bay
>>favorite painter
Goya
>>favorite architect
N/A

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 21:40:05 No.22297546 >>22295550 Wow damn close to me. Several of yours were my second picks.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 22:08:35 No.22297652

>>22286516
>favorite prophet; David
>favorite composer; Debussy
>favorite poet; Baudelaire
>favorite novelist; Bolano
>favorite philosopher; Deleuze
>favorite playwright; Jarry / Karl Kraus
>favorite director; Pier Paolo Pasolini
>favorite painter; Robert DeRuins
>favorite architect; Brunelleschi

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 22:14:40 No.22297683

>>22286516
Eques reporting in.
>prophet: Daniel.
>composer: I do like Grieg, I suppose.
>poet: Very conflicted. Freiherr von Hardenberg (Novalis) is what I am leaning towards right now.
>novelist: Does Tolkien count? if not, then I'll have to be boring and say Dostojevskij.
>philosopher: Boethius.
>playwright: Shakespeare.
>director: Of the ones currently alive? Eggers.
>painter: Tidemand is of course a classic, but my final answer is Willums.
>architect: No idea, I generally dislike neo-classicalisms, prefer wood and granite to marble and gold, basically I live for the late Gothic, Romanesque as well as Jugend styles.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 22:16:15 No.22297687

>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
gul dukat
>>favorite composer
john williams
>>favorite poet
george lucas
>>favorite novelist
george r.r. martin
>>favorite philosopher
sargon of akkad
>>favorite playwright
andrew lloyd webber
>>favorite director
zack snyder
>>favorite painter
adolf hitler
>>favorite architect
pierce brosnan

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 22:16:52 No.22297690 >>22297687 rope yourself.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 22:22:23 No.22297709
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>favorite prophet
Jeremiah
>favorite composer
Brahms
>favorite poet
Dickinson
>favorite novelist
Beckett
>favorite philosopher
Kierkegaard
>favorite playwright
Euripides
>favorite director
Malick
>favorite painter
Asger Jorn
>favorite architect
Gaudi

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 22:28:01 No.22297735 >>22286516 zoroaster xenakis shelley sterne plotinus shakespeare lars von trier agnes martin Le Corbusier i would say i am knowledgeable about religion, music and literature, but not about film, painting or architecture

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 22:29:29 No.22297740 It's very funny that there are multiple people here who chose Yeshua as their favorite prophet, yet they still refer to him by his romanized name.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 22:29:33 No.22297741 >>22297735 agnes martin is great. have you read any of her writing, or transcripts of lectures?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 22:29:42 No.22297742 >>22286842 >>>favorite composer >Brian Eno :I

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 22:35:03 No.22297757 >>22297741 i have read the book Writings, it was decent but i think her paintings are more effective at conveying most of the same ideas

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 23:02:12 No.22297832 >>22297740 No it isn't. You must be very unfunny to think that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 23, 2023 23:08:34 No.22297850 >>22297735 good stuff. the subjects youre into you have great taste. zoroaster-xenakis is a crazy combo. I can just imagine listening to pithoprakta reading the Avesta

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 02:35:09 No.22298439 >>22289654 The biggest C U C K on /lit/ lmao

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>favorite prophet
Dostoyevsky
>favorite composer
Ludwig van Beethoven
>favorite poet
Marcellus Palingenius Stellatus
>favorite novelist
Dostoyevsky
>favorite philosopher
Otto Weininger
>favorite playwright
Ibsen
>favorite director
Mizoguchi
>favorite painter
Michelangelo
>favorite architect
Michelangelo

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 03:11:17 No.22298584 >>22286516 >are you patrician? no >favorite prophet fuck off

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 04:25:45 No.22298824 >>22296765 I haven’t listened to them, what would you recommend?

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 04:29:38 No.22298838

>>22297546
For prophet it was either going to be David, Isaiah or Daniel given how heavily messianic their prophecies are. Funnily enough I even considered Ezra Pound as my favourite poet (I presume you’re >>22296444). Nice to see an anon with good taste

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 04:46:13 No.22298878

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Kilgore Trout/ Cassandra
>favorite composer
Schubert, I guess?
>favorite poet
Elizabeth Bishop/ Carlos Drummond Andrade/ Lord George Byron
>favorite novelist
Virginia Woolf/ J.D. Salinger/ Ernesto Sabato
>favorite philosopher
Charles Baudelaire/ Fernando Pessoa/ Kafka/ Elias Canetti
>favorite playwright
Victor Hugo? Never read any of his plays though
>favorite director
Polanski/ Spike Jonze
>favorite painter
I don't know. Goya.
>favorite architect
The guy that designs the McDonalds buildings

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 04:49:27 No.22298891 >>22298878 Oh shit, you know what? I forgot aeschylus was a playwright and not a poet. I pick him. Also milton

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 05:24:42 No.22298977 >>22298824 Depends. What are your favorite pieces by Rachmaninoff?

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>>22286516
>Prophet: Valentinus
>Composer: Wagner, Debussy, and Philip Glass
>Poet: William Blake and Walt Whitman
>Novelist: Melville
>Philosopher: Plato and Emerson
>Playwright: Shakespeare
>Director: Kubrick
>Painter: Francisco Goya
>Architect: Jean-Baptiste-Antoine Lassus

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 06:31:38 No.22299150

>>22295692
Tbh I don't know much about him outside of Petersburg, although his poetry is supposed to be good too, but that's definitely his canonical work and the one I'm basing my recommendation on. He's more or less an anarchist so opposite side of the fence from Pobedonostsev but I think if you're open-minded enough to appreciate Beckett you can find plenty to like in Bely, since his political approach is inherently mystical and and all flows from his interpretation of Christianity + Steiner's Hegelian theosophy + the particular spiritual state of Russianness.

>A little while ago I was reading about how the auditory qualities of Hagia Sophia were specifically designed for liturgical purposes - same thing with its internal lighting and how they emphasise specific icons.

That's amazing, I think my biggest reason for choosing them is that I see their fractal domes as being essential to the expression of spiritual hierarchy in architecture, and perhaps that also has some parallel with Maximos' ideas, the germ of the universal in the individual.

That's a great point about melancholy, they all have a very keen sense of the connection between hope and despair - Beckett and Eliot both deriving it directly from Dante, Tarkovsky from his own medieval Christian influences, and Dosto I suppose just from his faith in juxtaposition with the extremes of his own life and the lives of the people around him.

What would you recommend as essentials of Byzantine literature/philosophy? Is there any poetry of interest? Not that I don't find the theology stuff interesting, but that's the only area in which I've really heard of any Byzantine authors whatsoever.

>>22298878
Haha "Schubert I guess" is word for word what I picked, I guess he's a favorite of classical plebs like us. I just love the Ave Maria so much, and I've liked his symphonies more than the few others I've listened to even if they aren't the most unique, they just seem to do it that little bit better for me.

>>22297735
What do you get out of something like Xenakis or Martin? Not trying to be confrontational, it genuinely interests me and I'm always looking for opportunities to learn.

>>22297709
>Dickinson
>Beckett

Very good anon, very very good.

>Asger Jorn

Super cool, thank you for the rec.

>>22297687
madlad

>>22297303
What is your opinion on the Renaissance "schools" of Florence and Venice?

>>22297120
>mark karnes

Fuck, that's really good. Thank you anon, I take it back, you're ok by me. I like Fielding btw, or rather I liked Shamela and Joseph Andrews, he's highly underrated here, I just thought it was needlessly iconoclastic to pick someone so silly if you're not going to pick Shakespeare, but hey what fun is it if you can't make a few wild choices.

>>22296025
Based Frenchman/Frenchaboo. I see Racine praised to heaven so often by actual authors/critics, it's crazy how unknown he is here (nb I haven't read him but he's clearly very very important to the French tradition).

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>>22286516
Idk why I'm doing this, because I usually find these threads to be a huge jerkoff. Whatever.

>John the Apostle
>Stockhausen
>Blake
>Melville
>Duns Scotus
>Shakespeare
>Tarkovsky
>Dalí
>Gaudí

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 06:52:45 No.22299191 >>22286516 A Far Rockaway of the Heart is better than A Coney Island of the Mind There, I said it Don’t have anything to add but wanted to give my opinion of Ferlinghetti itt

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 06:53:17 No.22299192

>>22296007
>they actually built it

Kinda wish they hadn't, it could never have lived up to the drawing, but it's cool all the same. Regardless, you are based. Keats' long poems are great for a similar vibe and sense of scale in poetry, which I guess makes sense given they were of (very broadly) the same era/current of thought.

>>22295824
How would you rank Dryden's original works? I've read the biggest ones but still not Astraea, Threnodia, Religio Laici, Hind and the Panther, or any of the plays.

>>22295745
>>22295789
Nah I get you anon, it reminds me a lot of the Botticelli I talked about above, only much more dynamic. I think it's extremely poetic.

>>22295961
>another Turnerchad

Alright, I like where this is going. Our numbers are growing, it's time to rise up.

>>22295811
I should finish reading the Essay, I read the first part of it in an anthology. I love how united poetry and the social/political world were during that period, it resulted in such interesting products - are you aware of the Essay's being based on Bolingbroke's political ideas? Gives it an interesting twist to contextualize it in the time like that.

>>22299153
Now THAT is a corncob. Soulful taste anon, I don't know much about Scotus or scholastic philosophy, I mostly just know him from the Hopkins poem. Have you read Hopkins? Bet you'd like him based on your picks.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 06:54:18 No.22299194 >>22299191 Brave anon, very brave. We support you in taking this stand.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 07:52:46 No.22299281 >>22298977 Either his 2nd or 3rd piano concerto

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 09:18:16 No.22299431
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>>22299150
I trust your judgement and will add Petersburg to the list! And yes I'm more than happy to read things that are outside of my worldview but obviously I'll inevitably be reading through a Christian lens which is how I approached Beckett anyway. I forgot to add that Shakespeare is also a favourite playwright of mine. I probably connected with Hamlet a little too much as a character when I first read the play.

As for Byzantine literature, I mostly read theology and as I understand, the Byzantines didn't write many plays and what not. Nevertheless, they liked satires such as Timarion by Lucian of Samosata where the protagonist goes to a Hades run by pagans. If you're after non-fiction there's also Synesius' speech "On Monarchy" where he seeks to advise Emperor Arcadius.

The Byzantines loved their histories and chronologies (autism I presume). You might be interested to know that Anna Komnene, the daughter of Alexios I, wrote an extended history of her father's reign called the "Alexiad" which is pretty unique.

If you're after a modern history of the Byzantine Empire you can't go past Warren Treadgold's tome.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 10:18:04 No.22299519 k why not >favorite prophet Sikh Gurus >favorite composer Tchaikovsky >favorite novelist Dostoyevsky >favorite philosopher Schopenhauer >favorite playwright Chekhov >favorite director Kubrick/Fellini >favorite painter Thomas Cole/Goya

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 11:21:54 No.22299624

>favorite prophet
skip
>favorite composer
sibelius and holst
>favorite poet
eino leino
>favorite novelist
tolkien
>favorite philosopher
platon
>favorite playwright
aleksis kivi, I'm not that into playwright
>favorite director
lynch maybe, I really don't have a favourite one
>favorite painter
dali
>favorite architect
no favourites, I hate brutalism and all brutalist architects deserve slow and painful deaths

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 11:23:03 No.22299627 >>22297687 >gul dukat based, even though I prefer Sisko

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 13:51:03 No.22299949
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>favorite prophet
Jesus
>favorite composer
Brian Culbertson
>favorite poet
St John of the Cross
>favorite novelist
Brian Jaqués
>favorite philosopher
St Augustine
>favorite playwright
Albert Camus
>favorite director
Paul Verhoven
>favorite painter
Leonello Spada
>favorite architect
Idk I like classic renaissance and art deco styles

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 16:12:42 No.22300432 >>22299150 >karnes him and bailey studied together. lovely painters. i picked fielding over shakespeare because he's more dear to my heart, and like you said, trying to have a bit of fun

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 18:18:28 No.22300843

>>22299150
>I see Racine praised to heaven so often by actual authors/critics, it's crazy how unknown he is here
The real OG that is most relevant to OP's question, although he's very much a writer's writer.
If you're Anglo, he was simply dismissed purely to not crush the ridiculous place of muh bard. Out of curiosity I checked wikipedia who can't avoid it:
>As Racine returned to prominence at home, his critics abroad remained hostile due mainly, Butler argues, to Francophobia. The British were especially damning, preferring Shakespeare and Sir Walter Scott to Racine, whom they dismissed as "didactic" and "commonplace."

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 18:24:01 No.22300871

>>22286516
>Prophet: Emanuel Swedenborg
>Composer: Jean Sibelius
>Poet: Erik Johan Stagnelius
>Novelist: Viktor Rydberg
>Philosopher: Sören Kierkegaard
>Playwright: August Strindberg
>Director: Ingmar Bergman
>Painter: John Bauer
>Architect: Alvar Aalto

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 18:25:27 No.22300879 File: 1.19 MB, 720x1000, Portrait_half-light.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22286516 Daniel Gustav Holst Wordsworth Emily Brontë Epictetus Not into plays Impossible to say one, I like David Fincher John Martin Not into architecture

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 18:27:40 No.22300895 >>22300871 >Sören >ö

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 18:37:01 No.22300940 >>22300895 Yes?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 18:38:29 No.22300945 >>22286591 Retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 18:46:49 No.22300982 >>22300940 NTA Ø

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 18:52:47 No.22301001 >>22300982 Weak

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 19:01:34 No.22301044 >>22301001 self-awareness is good

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 20:26:47 No.22301297 >>22301044 Exactly, I suggest you learn it. Stop seething.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 20:35:12 No.22301325 >>22301297 >Stop seething stöp pröjecting

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 20:37:45 No.22301331 >>22301325 Ok Yeat

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 21:45:46 No.22301563

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Jesus, son of man
>favorite composer
Sibelius
>favorite poet
Schiller
>favorite novelist
Hesse
>favorite philosopher
Yunua Emre
>favorite playwright
Goethe
>favorite director
Tarkovsky
>favorite painter
Hodler
>favorite architect
Ando

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 21:51:51 No.22301578 >>22287080 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 21:55:21 No.22301582 >>22301563 Nietzsche/Duke of Chou Chopin Whitman/Lautreamont/Rilke Proust/Miller Emerson/Nietzsche O’Neill/Ibsen/Chekhov Leone/Peckinpah Van Eryk/Van Gogh/Velasquez Van Campen/della Porta

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 22:01:42 No.22301596

>favorite prophet
John the Apostle
>favorite composer
Béla Bartok
>favorite poet
Edgar Allan Poe
>favorite novelist
Milan Kundera
>favorite philosopher
St. Thomas More
>favorite playwright
Aeschylus
>favorite director
Harmony Korine
>favorite painter
Carl Spitzweg
>favorite architect
Raphael
>favorite sculptor
Jesús F. Contreras

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 22:10:55 No.22301624

>>22286526
honestly not sure why this list gets hate when 90% of the others are even more milquetoast pseud faggoty than this one
at least you can envision what this anon tends to gravitate to unlike say >>22286698
WAOUW Burroughs AND William Kent??? this dude read Naked Lunch and went to his local art museum once and that’s his “favorites” now lmfao

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 22:23:02 No.22301658

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Baruch de Espinosa
>favorite composer
Frédéric Chopin
>favorite poet
José de Espronceda
>favorite novelist
Yukio Mishima
>favorite philosopher
Having a favorite philosopher means you aren't patrician enough for philosophy
>favorite playwright
Marat/Sade
>favorite director
Andrzej Żuławski
>favorite painter
Mohammad Zaza
>favorite architect
Anything that looks brutalist enough is good, so current IA.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 22:23:03 No.22301659 [DELETED]

>>22295551
>But nope, can't let people talk about Lyotard and Bataille and aesthetic philosophies of modernism vs. postmodernism, because the OP failed to put "books for this feel?" in his post.
Your post was completely off topic. I'm the one who brought up Lyotard and Bataille and I'm also the one who reported the post.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 22:25:06 No.22301666 >>22286612 >Rousseau bruh

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 22:49:31 No.22301715 >>22286516 Rev Jim Jones Zdenek Liska Geoffrey Chaucer Marcel Proust Diogenes Yukio Mishima Pier Paolo Pasolini Renoir Albert Speer

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 24, 2023 23:09:10 No.22301750 >>22286516 Jeremiah Wagner Clough Melville Plato Tennyson Herzog Vedder N/A

Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 03:15:01 No.22302405

>>22299150
>What is your opinion on the Renaissance "schools" of Florence and Venice?
I admire both, though my sensibility lies more with the Tuscans, specially Pier della Francesca and Botticelli. I enjoy clarity, light traces, harmony of emotion. However, from time to time I also enjoy the more daring explorations of color and emotional rapture, that quasi-romantic feeling of being "submerged" in the sea-like colours of a Titian sky.
There is a reason why I picked many options in my answers: I cannot measure my preferences. Other than some obvious clarities, such as my preference for Botticelli over Rembrandt, or my preference for Dante over Shakespeare, it's all very much similar. Do I prefer Homer or Dante? I don't know. They are very different and there is not a day in my life in which I do not think of both.

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>>22286516
>favorite prophet
john the baptist
>favorite composer
debussy
>favorite poet
robert frost
>favorite novelist
ernest hemingway
>favorite philosopher
albert camus
>favorite playwright
arthur miller
>favorite director
michael bay
>favorite painter
rosetti
>favorite architect
hugh ferris/raymond hood

>favorite illustrator
alphonse mucha

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 06:33:07 No.22302817 >>22286516 >Isaiah >Wagner >Tennyson >Joyce >Spengler or Spinoza >Shakespeare >I don't watch many movies >Rembrandt >Wright

Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 06:33:15 No.22302819

>>22302405
I'm the opposite, very Dionysian, I love softness, melting, dissolution. Give me Venice, Rembrandt, Hals, Rococo, Impressionism, and above all Turner, every time. The ones like Da Vinci or Ingres or Vermeer who find ways to partake of both extremes are also fascinating. And I'm on the Shakespeare side of the Dante/Shakespeare question so the connection tracks. Homer transcends everything though, too pure to submit to distinction, too complete to admit any addition.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 11:05:53 No.22303327 >>22286962 gigabased aesthete

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 11:15:39 No.22303347 >Jesus >Rachmaninov >Strniša >Zupan >Nietzsche >the closest I get to theatre is Larry David >Sorrentino >Maria Mariani or Malevich >Bofil

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 11:23:30 No.22303357 >>22286516 Blake Schubert Homer Joyce Whitehead Idk Tarantino Repin Idk

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 11:27:30 No.22303368 >>22296482 Based

Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 11:53:55 No.22303431

>>22286516
>favorite prophet: Daniel
>favorite composer: Monteverdi, Bach, Wagner, Mahler, Nono
>favorite poet: Lucretius, Dante and Donne
>favorite novelist: Kafka, Bulgakov and Bernhard
>favorite philosopher: Spinoza
>favorite playwright: Moliere and Ionescu
>favorite director: Tarkovsky, Visconti
>favorite painter: Botticelli, Vermeer, Munch
>favorite architect: Giuseppe Terragni and Group 7 in general

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 14:13:21 No.22303749 >>22302504 idiotcore

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 14:21:15 No.22303766 >>22303749 michael bay is based, but rossetti is one of those painters that may photograph convincingly but does not at all hold up in person. weird chins

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 16:53:52 No.22304160 >>22303357 >Joyce >Whitehead >Tarantino you must be insufferable irl

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 21:59:51 No.22305149 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 22:02:54 No.22305156 >>22304160 maybe but not in a pseudointellectual way more like just a sperg way

Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 22:09:50 No.22305180

>>22286516

>favorite prophet

Moses

>favorite composer

Beethoven's 5th Symphony

>favorite poet

The Canterbury Tales author

>favorite novelist

Salmon Rushdie

>favorite philosopher

Marcus Aurelius or Socrates of Athens

>favorite playwright

Sarah Kane

>favorite director

Tough one! Early M Night Shyamalan or late Wes Craven

>favorite painter

Ugh, I can't even choose one.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 22:24:20 No.22305220 >>22303431 Kek

Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 22:32:39 No.22305257
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>>22286516

>>favorite prophet
Ludwig Wittgenstein

>>favorite composer
Abdullah Ibrahim

>>favorite poet
Sei Shõnagon

>>favorite novelist
Ronnie O'Sullivan

>>favorite philosopher
Bodhidharma

>>favorite playwright
Karel Çapek

>>favorite director
István Szabó

>>favorite painter
Daniel Brusatin

>>favorite architect
Imhotep

Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 22:40:42 No.22305280

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Don't care. John the Baptist, maybe?
>favorite composer
Avey Tare
>favorite poet
Seamus Heaney
>favorite novelist
Thomas Hardy
>favorite philosopher
Probably Nietzsche
>favorite playwright
William Shakespeare
>favorite director
Francis Ford Coppola
>favorite painter
Vilhelm Hammershøi
>favorite architect
I have no clue. Christopher Wren?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 23:01:46 No.22305334

>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
aleister crowley
>>favorite concert
radio city music hall in the big apple
>>favorite author
sanjay gupta
>>favorite gang of new york
dead rabbits
>>favorite calendar
firefighters or gregorian
>>favorite philosopher
pig-headed pat or bigwig
>>favorite porn star
mia khalifa
>>favorite actor
mark wahlberg, above the law (1988)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 23:04:16 No.22305339 >>22305334 For me, it’s the Forty Thieves

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 25, 2023 23:10:24 No.22305363 >>22305339 Classic & easily top 4 or 5 pour moi

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 00:12:48 No.22305559 >>22298838 That's me. I also like your taste as well anon. Tbh there's a fair few decent lists in this thread. Heartening.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 00:50:47 No.22305677 >>22305559 >>22298838 now kiss

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 02:32:46 No.22305980 I feel like an uncultured zoomer faggot with a tiktok attention span but I cant get into poetry at all. I think its just completely gay and, most importantly, boring as fuck. What am I missing?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 02:35:40 No.22305989 >>22305980 I ignored poetry and hated it for like 10 years but I’ve changed my tune. I see it as making the mundane beautiful. Taking a simple phrase and making it a work of art. There is also philosophy underlying a lot of it

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 02:48:38 No.22306023 >>22286526 >bahaullah Allahuaba son

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 02:48:58 No.22306024 >>22286516 >Isaiah >Bach >Goethe >Dostoevsky >unsure if theologians count, Aquinas >none >none >Ilya Repin >Pontelli

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 02:53:16 No.22306041 >>22305980 interested in any part of art? try the ones most rooted in classical form and rhyme. i find the other modernizations and the rest to really make it meaningless. 'Gefunden' by Goethe is quite a pleasant one. do read them aloud.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 03:11:49 No.22306086 Whats the difference between a prophet and a philosopher tho? Is the prophet just the one who is acting on his philosophy?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 03:13:38 No.22306093 File: 2.90 MB, 640x640, kanye.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22287688 only correct answer

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 03:14:38 No.22306099 >>22306041 Im gonna try reading the Iliad. I dont really know if it can even be counted as poetry but I think it qualifies due to the fact how rhytmic its written.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 03:25:30 No.22306134 Look at all the fucking posers in this thread. I bet you niggas like to pretend to read Infinite Jest in public.

Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 03:30:52 No.22306153

>>22306134
you're so far behind that even your stereotype image of them reveals your retardation.

>>22305980
dont read it then. its for those with love of language and for those who've suffered and are tired of all other forms of friendly-voiced narrators, essayists, writers etc. poeticisms speak to a compression of language, philosophers and poets are often in dialogue, a lot of times poets can compress images of philosophies with a mere phrase. try Celan.

Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 04:10:24 No.22306239

>>22286516
>favorite prophet
Viktor Orbán
>favorite composer
Ferenc Liszt
>favorite poet
János Arany
>favorite novelist
Géza Csáth
>favorite philosopher
András László
>favorite playwright
Imre Madách
>favorite director
Zoltán Huszárik
>favorite painter
Tivadar Csontváry Kosztka
>favorite architect
Gábor Zoboki

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 05:08:25 No.22306363 >>22306239 >bringing out the hungarian form of Liszt's first name >keeping it in the anglicized order come on.

Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 06:39:10 No.22306590

>>22286516
>prophet
Marshall Applewhite
>composer
Bowie
>poet
Bowie
>novelist
Dr. Seuss
>philosopher
Cryptic symbolism in my dreams
>playwright
Peggy Shaw
>director
Lynch
>painter
Basquiat
>architect
Whoever invented Brutalism and made all the chuds seethe

Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 06:50:07 No.22306604

>>22286516

>favorite prophet
Terry Davis
>favorite composer
Chopin
>favorite poet
Elliot
>favorite novelist
Camus
>favorite philosopher
Kierkegaard
>favorite playwright
Sartre
>favorite director
Michael Bay
>favorite painter
De Goya
>favorite architect
None buildings are stupid

Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 08:17:51 No.22306786

>are you patrician?
yes
>favorite prophet Isaiah
>favorite composer Ludwig van Beethoven
>favorite poet PB Shelley
>favorite novelist Jane Austen
>favorite philosopher René Descartes
>favorite playwright Euripedes
>favorite director James Cameron
>favorite painter Raphael
>favorite architect Philibert de l'Orme

Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 11:59:57 No.22307122

people who couldn't make up their mind have been ignored

Eliot, 4
Goethe, 3
Poe, 3
Dickinson, 3
Tennyson, 3
Blake, 3
Neruda, 2
Pound, 2
Cummings, 2
Dante, 2
Baudelaire, 2
Homer, 2
Shelley, 2
Chaucer, 2

Dostoevsky, 7
Mishima, 5
Melville, 4
Nabokov, 3
Tolkien, 3
Joyce, 3
Proust, 2
Hesse, 2
Hemingway, 2
Pynchon, 2
McCarthy, 2
Conrad, 2
Gogol, 2

Shakespeare, 33
Beckett, 5
Sophocles, 4
Aeschylus, 4
Chekhov, 3
Ibsen, 2
Wagner, 2
Euripides, 2

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 13:23:50 No.22307336 File: 56 KB, 447x604, 1370382392277.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22286516 >none >Michael Cashmore >Yeats >none, I like short stories, so Lovecraft or Borges >Aristotle >Barton Fink >David Lynch >Francis Bacon >Speer

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 14:15:19 No.22307453 >>22307122 making Shakespeare /lit/'s only indisputable GOAT

Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 16:36:50 No.22307747
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>>22287168
>Film is anything you can do in theater + way more,
>barring some subtleties about acoustics or experimental audience participation stuff
NTA but It's way more than this. They are just different mediums. Live Actors make all the difference in the world. Anyone who routinely attends live theater in a sufficiently intimate space should understand this. Anyone who has performed on stage for a live audience should know that "audience participation" is always present. Actors can feel the energy of a crowd, they feed off it and play to it. It's not just "subtleties of acoustics" or whatever. There's some kind of deep, primal response to live human that's not the same as seeing one in a video.

There are important differences from a writing perspective as well. Theater is usually far more verbal than film. A playwright has to embed more exposition and even action itself into dialog ("O, I am slain!") and poetry. Actors in film can convey meaning with subtle expressions where stage requires a mix of dialog/oratory and dramatic emoting. Constraints breed creativity. When you are stuck writing functional dialog, there's more incentive to make the language itself pleasant to hear.

Anyway, I'm not supporting the faggot who thinks he's cool for shitting on film, but yes film should have to justify itself.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 16:40:02 No.22307753 >>22286516 >favorite composer: Brahms That's it

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 16:53:00 No.22307783 >>22307453 Why when dostoevsky is popular everyone realizes it’s just because it’s baby’s first book, but when melville and shakespeare are popular everyone jerks themselves over it?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 17:27:30 No.22307873 >>22286719 >mathematician: euler/riemann/fuller >biologist: kauffman/maturana/varela/marguilis >historian: spengler/toynbee/gebser >photographer: henson/giacomelli Incredibly good taste.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 17:39:17 No.22307910 >>22307753 Brahms is peak incel creativity. For some reason he channeled his thwarted lust into incredibly beautiful music.

Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 18:03:04 No.22307991

>>22286516
>prophet
Trismegistus and Dōgen
>composer
Bach and Schubert
>poet
The metaphysical poets (including Schiller) and Pound
>novelist
Nabokov, Borges, Gene Wolfe
>philosopher
Plotinus, Proclus Diadochi, Schopenhauer despite his flaws
>playwright
Shakespeare
>director
Kurosawa, Tarkovsky, Ozu, Visconti
>painter
Michelangelo for his sketches, Roerich, Andrew Wyeth
>architect
Ictinos and Callicrates

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 18:57:18 No.22308109 Jesus Christ Lizst Percy shelly Nabokov Albert Camus Shakespeare Quentin Tarantino Van gogh Frank Giehry

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 19:00:47 No.22308120 >>22307910 >incel He fucked Clara Schumann probably in front of Schumann himself.

Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 19:18:27 No.22308161

>>22286516
>>favorite prophet
Spinoza
>>favorite composer
Chopin
>>favorite poet
Elliot
>>favorite novelist
Dostoyevski
>>favorite philosopher
Foucault
>>favorite playwright
Tenessee
>>favorite director
Von Trier
>>favorite painter
Julio Galán
>>favorite architect
Nah

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 22:53:53 No.22308847 >>22286962 Midwit

Anonymous Wed, Jul 26, 2023 23:04:33 No.22308879
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>>22286516

>favorite prophet
Muhammad saww, Christ as
>favorite composer
Bach, Shostakovich
>favorite poet
Nizar Qabbani
>favorite novelist
Kafka
>favorite philosopher
Einstein and Wittgenstein
>favorite playwright
Beckett?
>favorite director
Kubrick
>favorite painter
Goya, Beksinski
>favorite architect
Don't have one

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