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Is there any children's/young adult lit that comes close to this series? I mean in terms of entertainment.

I gave the first couple chapters of Northern Lights a try, but it felt too dark, like the writer had a corrupt soul (hard to explain).

>> No.22277047

Prydain
Narnia
Jinx
The Dark is Rising

>> No.22277101

>>22277038
Peter and the Starcatchers by Dave Barry (haven't read it)

>> No.22277110

>>22277038
The second book of the Animorphs series and possibly the chronicles.

>> No.22277111

>>22277101
I loved those books

>> No.22277125

How do I, as a writer, create something friendly for young audiences to consume when I have so much darkness within me? I've got that Lars Von Trier soul, but I don't want to add to the darkness of the world by writing stories like that.

>> No.22277134

>>22277038
How about A Series of Unfortunate Events? The writer, Lemony Snicket, as called in the series is a bit of an absurdist, but elegant writer. Reminds me of Edgar Allan Poe and Charles Dickens. Many quotable sentences too! A mystery story and lots of references to literature with 40s, 50s aesthetic. It's steampunk storytelling done right.

The Series is genuinely good.

>> No.22277262

>>22277038
Earthsea Chronicles is superior.

>> No.22277309

>>22277125
Roald Dahl and Enid Blyton were much more fucked up than Phillip Pullman, yet kids love their works.

I think it's more to do with how much of a child's mindset you still retain. Pullman's books read like an adult wrote it for kids, whereas Dahl and Blyton's books read like they were written by an adult who never grew up

>> No.22277366

>>22277134
I like it but it's fairly different from Harry Potter, it's more formulaic and I remember one or two books in the middle of the series that really dive in quality whereas Harry Potter is pretty consistent throughout
Also I thought the ending was trash

>> No.22277393

>>22277125
>>22277309
Nah, it's the Atheism.

Atheist writers -- especially the British -- have a complex. They must write in a way that makes them sound intellectual, and their characters and situations must reflect their materialistic worldview. This is why characters that are protagonists come across as unlikable.

>> No.22277486

>>22277047
>Prydain
Maybe it was because I first read them as an adult, but the Prydain series really rubbed me the wrong way. It felt, for lack of a better word, preachy, but I can't really put my finger on why.

>> No.22277728

>>22277038
I really enjoyed the Pit Dragon Chronicles by Yolen as a kid.

>> No.22277734

>>22277038
>Is there any children's/young adult lit that comes close to this series? I mean in terms of entertainment.

As sad as it is to say, no.
Before Harry Potter, children's lit were overly silly and focused on random events happening rather than a coherent plot. Authors either didn't take their audience seriously, or they did, but they didn't have the imagination to tell a grand epic (it was always something like a mouse journeying into the wild).
Even Worst Witch, Proto-Potter, went too far into the silliness of things.

>>22277393
That's a decent point. Howl's Moving Castle might be the closest competition to Potter, but it lacks soul. If I recall, the characters keep to themselves, they just happen to share a space. If Rowling had been an Atheist, Harry might've been more like Draco and he and Ron wouldn't have been close.

>> No.22278961

>>22277134
ASOUE can't shine Potter's glasses

>> No.22279112

>>22277734
>Before Harry Potter, children's lit were overly silly and focused on random events happening rather than a coherent plot.
Are you just ignoring classic childrens lit or referring to a specific time period?

>>22277125
Same here. My soul feels 3edgy5u sometimes but >>22277309 encapsulates it. Try to never truly grow up.

>> No.22279131

>>22279112
>Try to never truly grow up.
Well, luckily for me...

>> No.22279153
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>>22277038
>but it felt too dark
Lmao, this nigga only reads kid's books.

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>>22277393
>and their characters and situations must reflect their [ ] worldview
Wow, nothing like religious folx, right?

>> No.22279257

>>22279156
>Wow, nothing like religious folx, right?

Exactly like religious folks, but you're comparing stories about making positive changes and heroic sacrifices (Harry Potter, Chronicles of Narnia, LOTR) to the doom and gloom of Atheist writers. I don't know any children's lit examples outside of His Dark Materials, but if you read a story where the world is shit and all the characters are crude, cruel, and indulge in hedonistic pleasures, you're likely reading an Atheist.

>> No.22279269

>>22277047
>Prydain
My man. May your harp never catch you lying.

>> No.22279283

>>22279257
Homeboy, you just said you didn't even read His Dark Materials. The final book doesn't end on doom and gloom.

>> No.22279286

>>22277486
I read them as an adult, I don't know about preachy. As much as Narnia? Nah. I don't think they're that deep.

I took them as what you'd get if D&D was a thing in the 50s, and after reading Lord of the Rings, this is what a group would come up with.

>> No.22279287

>>22279257
>but if you read a story where the world is shit and all the characters are crude, cruel, and indulge in hedonistic pleasures, you're likely reading an Atheist.
Also this is completely baseless.
Religious people are the ones who think this world is fallen, so the opposite is true if anything.

>> No.22279600

>>22277038
The Edge Chronicles.

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>> No.22279661

Do kids still read the Oz books?

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>>22277038
Mogs all other children's lit

>> No.22280057

>>22277038
This series legit surprised the shit out of me how much I liked it.

>> No.22280365

>>22279661
I know from experience they can be a little difficult to collect outside of the first one. So, probably not.

>> No.22280691

>>22277038
Roald Dahl anything. Redwall. Goosebumps. Not much else though.

>> No.22281374

>>22277038
Animorphs

>> No.22281615

It should be clear that Rowling DID NOT write these books herself.

>> No.22281796

I'm quite fond of the Redwall series I like how the magic in those is confined to dreams

>> No.22281927

>>22277038
>Is there any children's/young adult lit that comes close to this series? I mean in terms of entertainment.
I'd recommend the Chrestomanci series. I've read/watch some Harry Potter and in my opinion it's so-so at best, I honestly don't see what people see in this franchise, but I'd recommend Chrestomanci since I got from it what I think people get from Harry Potter; the characters, the magic, the setting, that things are "whimsical" that's something I did feel from reading Diana Wynne Jones, not JK.
>>22281615
>It should be clear that Rowling DID NOT write these books herself.
That wouldn't surprise since that's happened with other Scholastic titles in the past.

>> No.22282519

Just won an old edition of A Wizard of Earthsea on eBay.

What am i in for

>> No.22282528

wtf is harry potter
t. Muslim

>> No.22282569

>>22277038
My favorite series as a kid was Pendragon. Reality-hopping science fantasy is awesome.