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Anonymous Sun Jul 16 20:37:31 2023 No.22271269 [Reply] [Original]

Alright, so I'm 10 pages in and it's not grabbing me. This Stepan Trofimovich just seems like a cunt, and while I adore Dosto, damn, his prose really does suck.
Is it worth continuing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 16 20:39:54 2023 No.22271281 >translation >his prose sucks you're reading a translation, NEWFAG these redditors are getting dumber by the day, god damn

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 16 20:40:09 2023 No.22271282 >>22271269 You’re not much of a reader, are you? 10 pages? Kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 16 20:46:48 2023 No.22271300 File: 2 KB, 215x250, 1562217147729.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22271282 I've got ADHD okay? >>22271281 >just learn Russian bro This year, I swear. Next year it's Greek. I've been planning on doing this for 10 years now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 00:04:22 2023 No.22271972 >>22271300 >ADHD Stop using the internet for a week and your ADHD is gone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 00:06:14 2023 No.22271977 >>22271269 >just devoured 10 pages

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 00:10:43 2023 No.22271992 Gets better at 30 pages in. Talk about a slow start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 00:13:56 2023 No.22272006 >>22271269 literally his second greatest book (behind TBK) actual action takes 100 page intervals. improve or get filtered.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 00:14:08 2023 No.22272007 >>22271269 What's good prose to you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 00:41:50 2023 No.22272104 you've just got to stick it out for a while. if i remember correctly, it takes like a hundred or more pages to get interesting. it's worth it, though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 00:49:45 2023 No.22272135 >>22271269 Very excellent book, some parts even more so, the chapters resolving Stepan, Kirilov, and Stavrogin, with the Tihkon chapter that follows the latter only enhancing the ending. You must persevere for these things.

Anonymous Mon Jul 17 01:01:56 2023 No.22272191

>>22271269
It just so happens that the introduction is very long. Almost half the book. It is still enjoyable, although you will find yourself 150 pages in and still not knowing what the book is about.

In the end it does pay off. It's one of my favourite books by Dostoievski

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 01:02:05 2023 No.22272192 >>22271269 >>22271282 >>22271992 >>22272006 I stuck with it for 200 pages but it never got interesting

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 01:04:50 2023 No.22272204 >>22272192 It gets interesting on page 201.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 01:06:43 2023 No.22272215 >>22272007 Are you seriously going to argue with OP that Dostoevsky in translation (and Russian too apparently) writes with boring prose?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 01:08:32 2023 No.22272223 >>22272215 No I was just asking an innocuous question out of curiosity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 01:14:40 2023 No.22272252 >>22272223 Watch your attitude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 01:33:43 2023 No.22272311 >>22272252 lol wasn't being sarcastic or facetious there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 01:36:14 2023 No.22272320 >10 pages lmao careful to not tire yourself. the novel kicks off 200 pages in. the main characters don't appear in it until like page 150.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 02:27:37 2023 No.22272482 >>22271269 Sorry there wasn’t an action scene in the first sentence anon…

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 03:37:57 2023 No.22272710 >>22272311 Stop getting smart with me.

Anonymous Mon Jul 17 03:44:52 2023 No.22272740

>>22271281
Arguably russian prose just doesn't reach the hights of english prose. I believe it's the reason russian works of Nabokov aren't praised a lot. A good enough translation, not shitty robot translation but a literary one, can be sufficient for people who don't know russian. It's completely opposite for poetry though.

Anonymous Mon Jul 17 04:03:46 2023 No.22272793

>>22271300
Oh wow, I got ADHD as well. 10 pages into a book that is about 700 pages isn't even a drop in a puddle, it is a drop in a lake. Get a better translation, and get through at least 100 pages before you decide anything about the book. 10 pages and this retard is already about to give in, jesus christ.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 04:09:54 2023 No.22272814 Why are people responding to this bait?

Anonymous Mon Jul 17 04:26:59 2023 No.22272860

>>22272320
this is the truth, I think part of the pay off of the book is that once everything is established it starts picking up momentum and it's just a crazy book. If it didn't have 200 pages of slow introduction the last 2/3rds wouldn't work they way they do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 14:14:56 2023 No.22273883 >>22271972 how would that even work? I am distracted by my own thoughts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 14:27:19 2023 No.22273914 >>22271269 Read a summary and see if you'd want to stick with it through the plot points and to the end. You're not spoilering the story, that's only what bugbrained readers looking for "the experience" think. I feel the same way with TBK.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 15:17:19 2023 No.22274030 >>22271269 it's fuckin epic, give it another 100 pages

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 15:26:23 2023 No.22274055 File: 337 KB, 712x979, Nechayev.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do you not know what happens? It's based on the life of anarchist revolutionary Sergey Nechayev. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Nechayev

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 15:41:04 2023 No.22274100 >>22273883 Dopamine overdose. The internet gives you so much entertainment that your brain can't stop getting distracted. Search "Dopamine fasting"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 15:51:43 2023 No.22274124 >>22271281 Taк y Дocтoeвcкoгo peaльнo cлaбaя пpoзa. Ecли тeбe, кoнeчнo, нe зaхoдит eгo лихopaдoчный тoн

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 17:27:29 2023 No.22274391 File: 36 KB, 610x284, 1613200263150.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Im litereally Nikolai Stavrogin

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 17:33:27 2023 No.22274411 >>22271269 why is he doing the "it's over" pose

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 17:38:47 2023 No.22274432 >>22272192 that's why it's 700 pages. and it is interesting from the get-go, you're just too damaged by instant gratification.

Anonymous Mon Jul 17 17:49:54 2023 No.22274471

>>22271300
>I’ve got ADHD
That shit’s been so overblown by the medical industrial complex, just keep trying everyday. Discipline is key, everything’s practice, and you’ve just been conditioned to rapid fire quick entertainment, lay down the memes and tiktok.
I’ve got diagnosed ADHD as well, shit’s not any different from being a functional human being.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 17:51:23 2023 No.22274480 >>22271269 yes but it'll take another 100 pages and then you'll want to re-read it to enjoy the first 100 pages, now knowing the characters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 19:01:53 2023 No.22274742 >>22271269 I disliked the first half of this. Stepan is indeed an annoying character and he doesnt get better. Gets better when his son arrives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 23:07:50 2023 No.22275747 >>22271269 stavrogin necks himself and everyone dies

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 23:24:11 2023 No.22275804 >>22275747 My nigga Pyotr Stepanovich makes it out and gets away with everything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 23:27:52 2023 No.22275821 >>22272215 It's not boring at all. If it was boring, it wouldn't be universally considered great literature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 23:31:45 2023 No.22275836 File: 809 KB, 1067x748, im 45 years old and dont take shit from such an illiterate.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22271269 Kill yourself

Anonymous Mon Jul 17 23:33:57 2023 No.22275844

Demons is one of my favourite books, it's central character is purposely hid from the reader and you get to see all the chaos he causes while also being a parody of some Russian revolutionaries.

You gotta think a little bit bigger than the small drama at times

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 17 23:37:21 2023 No.22275861 >>22272006 based OP should learn how to read

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