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22240256 No.22240256 [Reply] [Original]

why should I try to do anything, if no matter what I'll never achieve the same level of master in it as James Joyce achieved in literature? I should honestly just fucking kill myself already.

>> No.22240272

Is that a quote from Beckett?

>> No.22240298

>>22240256
Stop being so mundane and underage.

>> No.22240332
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>>22240256
Joyce didn't give up when he was comparing himself to Milton, Dante, and Shakespeare. Don't give up on yourself either.

>> No.22240339

/// "Here lies Trigorin, a clever writer, but he was not as
good as Turgenieff." ///

if your only aspiration in creating is overtaking/dethroning someone, just stop altogether.

>> No.22240394

>>22240256
Learn another language and be the Joyce of that language. Just don't have it be Russian or French or German because they each probably already have their own by now.

>> No.22240517

It took him a long time to write few things.

>> No.22240717

>>22240517
This is true. And it took him to the age of 40 to release the book that made him famous and another 17 years to write his final work. Very few can even hope to reach Joyce’s level of artistic/intellectual achievement but you can still do great and different things, ideally so unique to its own purpose/ideal that it becomes quite pointless to compare. No-one believes that the books of writers who aren’t at the very top of the canonical shouldn’t exist anyway.
>>22240298
Also this I guess

>> No.22240757

>>22240256
Who?

>> No.22240761

My main motivation is to be able to understand James Joyce
So far I'm still making my way through Daniel Defoe and Ibsen and am learning French to read Flaubert

>> No.22240770

>>22240761
Those authors are great and essential to read at some point and great context to have, but they’re also not entirely necessary to understanding Joyce. If you really want to understand Joyce you should read Joyce.

>> No.22240797

>>22240256
I once thought a Joyce be seen come round profound. If he ever did not perhaps be free then maybe suspiciously. Freed. Undone. Perhaps won. Sounds and signals. A man eating pringles. Life unfleeted. A young man cheated

>> No.22241531

>>22240797
Anon unfortunately you can't just rhyme and be another Joyce

>> No.22241545

>>22240272
Hahaha