/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22238955]

This is the saddest shit I've read in a while. It's one of these books where the author is truly baring their soul even if they're also clearly lying to themselves or recalling events in self-serving or rationalizing ways. This woman has massive unsolved daddy issues and it's very clear that everything she did is an attempt to deal with a sense of inadequacy in her father's eyes and a perceived lack of affection from him and, to a lesser extent, her mother as well.

[Anonymous No.22238974]

>>22238955
All I got from this book is that Halifaxx faggots only care about raping sluts.

[Anonymous No.22239008]

>>22238955
Elliott must be really cleaning up in Hollywood with all those big time acting gigs considering as a woman, she was so good in all those big budget movies with the world's biggest stars, based on her acting alone and not her looks as a woman. Can anons give me a must watch movie list post surgery? Thanks I have the next few days off and want to watch a bunch of movies.

[Anonymous No.22239164]

>>22239008
It's not that she'd get anything as a woman. Girlets age poorly on screen. From Judy Garland to Natalie Portman, they just hit a wall, and it's over.

[Anonymous No.22239187]

post excerpts

[Anonymous No.22239231]

>>22238955
This thread again.
All right, can someone post the excerpt of her starving herself, taking drugs, and then losing to the voices inside her head and having herself maimed?

[Anonymous No.22239264]

>>22239231
>All right, can someone post the excerpt of her starving herself, taking drugs, and then losing to the voices inside her head and having herself maimed?
I believe this is dishonest or heavily embellished until I see it

[Anonymous No.22239270]

>>22238955
I mean, I know it is not right to judge a book by its cover, look at the picture she chose to repersent herself. She looks like an uncomftorable rube. When I look at this picture of her it brought to mind an image of my awkward friend from high school who eventually got addicted to heroin. I remember one day he was waiting for his dealer to come give him his fix. He sat there like that, in an incredible amount of discomfort, yet trying to impose a casual air. The posture, and herself, are a ruse. She is a liar and her life is a liar. She multialted herself in anticipation of some great ease that she pass over her, but it never happened and it never will

[Anonymous No.22239279]

>>22239264
Bitch went full schizo and punched herself in the face until she bled. Then she went to her kike therapist that told her chopping off her little tits would solve her problems.

[Anonymous No.22239280]

Literally can't believe this dumb faggot thinks they're a writer on top of being a man. Hilarious. If you want to understand these crazy faggots read st james.

[Anonymous No.22239288]

>>22239008
Kek as you imply eliot page was in fact never a good actor and presumably will never act again the cunt

[Anonymous No.22239289]

>>22239187
>It seems like [her father] was annoyed he had made a baby in the eleventh hour with someone he didn't desire to be with, a puny human, relentlessly keeping the cord strong and taut.

>The scent of my childhood home, hitting me on the way in, made me nauseated.

>I felt [the stepmom]'s annoyance at this burden from her husband's first marriage. She could get away with it. I never actually talked to my father about how she treated me until I was an adult and I never, not once, stood up to her. I suppose I felt I deserved it, and why the hell wouldn't I? My father knew and did nothing about it."

>I cringed as my dad came and sat next to me on the floor. He put his hand on my spine, I felt my insides retreat.
>"We are just kidding around," he said, whispering, rubbing my back. "It's just a joke."
>No sorry. Never a sorry. No stop. Never an "Are you okay?"

>If I was not born, I'd have no perception of what I'd be missing, nor would anyone else miss me. This would suit me just fine. We are all micro specks, almost nothing int he grand scheme.

>I have been on testosterone for over a year now. Every Friday I wake up excited yet content, a new sense of calm in my life. I inject myself with forty milligrams of T, I'm changing, I'm growing, it's all just beginning.
>Let me just exist with you, happier than ever.

[Anonymous No.22239296]

>>22239289
Lmao women are so fucking delusional holy shit

[Anonymous No.22239298]

>>22239279
You're underselling it. She says actually HEARD VOICES telling her to transition, and from the experience to being recommended for trans surgery there was just about a month. It is this is insane and it is even more insane that people are lauding this instead of being horrified about it.

The entire book has her telling about how she's been self-harming since she was a teen and continued well into her 30s. She's fleeing from her pain into whatever seems to be the miracle pill for her to finally accept herself. It obviously won't - her problems are clearly deeper and deeply ingrained. What will this woman who's committed self-harm for decades do once she realizes that transitioning was just more self-harm?

[Anonymous No.22239303]

>>22239289
the top 4 are sad but not too far out of the ordinary. People have daddy/step mommy issues all the time.
the bottom 2 are more startling. who is the "you" at the very bottom line addressed to?

[Anonymous No.22239305]

>>22239303
>the bottom 2 are more startling. who is the "you" at the very bottom line addressed to?

The reader.

[Anonymous No.22239309]

>>22239298
Do you have any evidence she hasn't become happier on testerone?

[Anonymous No.22239310]

>>22238955
Is the cover supposed to be ironic? As I think another anon said, it looks a bit like a 14-year old's idea of masculinity after watching a Marlon Brando movie

[Anonymous No.22239314]

>>22239309
NTA but look at her face on the cover
>>22239298
I'm still waiting on the "hearing voices" and "punched herself in the face" excerpts

[Anonymous No.22239318]

>>22238955
What'd her dad do according to the book?

[Anonymous No.22239320]

>>22239309
Yes since she was slaying hollywood pussy back when she was a dike.

[Anonymous No.22239321]

>>22239309
people also become happier when they cut or engage in substance abuse, retard - it's why these become destructive addictions in the first place

[Anonymous No.22239323]

>>22239318
Raped her by creating her lol imagine being a women and resenting your parents your whole life holy shit

[Anonymous No.22239329]

>>22239320
Yeah but apparently she didn't really care about acting fame and also as i mentioned she was a bad actress anyway lol.

[Anonymous No.22239339]

>>22239314
>https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/08/elliot-page-voice-head-trans-suicide-attempt/
Eat it up fag. Thats quoting shit she said to the LA Times.

[Anonymous No.22239344]

>>22239314
>Hard and sharp, I struck myself with my knuckles. Surprised at my temerity, I glanced back down at my fist. Inspecting it, I looked at both sides and then, WHAM! Again. And again. Harder. Sharper. I pummeled my face, pounding next to my right eye. Some other force working to knock it out.
>Bruises materialized. I'd be seeing people in a couple days, friends who were coming up to stay briefly at another cabin nearby. I had to surmise a way of explaining it, or a way of hiding it.

[Anonymous No.22239348]

>>22239339
>“The agonizing voice saying, ‘No, you’re not,’ ‘No, you can’t’ just switched and became very gentle and loving.
the devil comes disguised as an angel of light

[Anonymous No.22239361]

>>22239344
Definitely zero mental-issues.

[Anonymous No.22239362]

>>22239344
>Unable to shower, remove my hoodie, eat without anxiety, or at at all. Sadness came over me, a grief and anger, livid that I could not just be. Exhausted by the distress, a brain that was about to crack, unsure if I was able to cope.
>And then something happened.
>You don't have to feel this way.
>That voice.
>I don't have to feel this way?
>That fucking voice.
>You don't have to feel this way.
>I don't have to feel this way.

[Anonymous No.22239373]

>>22239362
After the epiphany at the cabin, she decides that she has to get surgery, and it has to be before the Umbrella Academy would start filming the next season, so in three months tops. She manages to get it in one.

[Anonymous No.22239377]

>>22239314
>>22239264

[Anonymous No.22239390]

>>22239348
it's the same voice that told her to become anorexic, according to her.

[Anonymous No.22239394]

>>22239344
>>22239362
This is why I don't envy people with money. You never know what retarded shit they're mixed up with.

[Anonymous No.22239405]

>>22239373
>and it has to be before the Umbrella Academy would start filming the next season
why

[Anonymous No.22239410]

>>22238955
>imagine reading a book just to seethe over it
You are an spiritual tranny, seethe and dilate. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.22239424]

>>22239410
Maybe he read it to understand better

[Anonymous No.22239432]

>>22239410
>"uuhhhh... why are you trying to inform yourself about a craze of genital mutilation sweeping across the developed world? is there something wrong with you?"
fuck off.

[Anonymous No.22239451]

>>22239410
Know thy enemy :^)

[Anonymous No.22239468]

>>22239362
Lmao unbelievable. Literal voices in my head told me to do it wow

[Anonymous No.22239474]

>>22239405
BECAUSE SHE'S FUCKING INSANE
HAVENT REGISTERED THAT YET?

[Anonymous No.22239480]

>>22239474
YO LIL DONNIE tier post

[Anonymous No.22239481]

>>22239424
>>22239432
Do you have any tranny in your family? Why do you care? Just ask them things directly, you don't have to read books on that shit.
>>22239451
>Behold le tranny, scourge of western civilization, chaos bringer, devourer of morals, destroyer of penises.
Seriously, get real.

[Anonymous No.22239483]

>>22239405
So they wouldn't have to stop filming while she gets surgery and recovers since she's a major character in that show. If she didn't get the surgery in those few months it'd need to wait for filming to end and I genuinely think she'd have killed herself from the anguish until then. The entire cabin segment is awful.

[Anonymous No.22239486]

>>22239483
>The entire cabin segment is awful.
Elaborate

[Anonymous No.22239488]

>>22239481
>Why do you care?
about other people?

[Anonymous No.22239491]

>>22239481
>Do you have any tranny in your family?
no
>why do you care
aren't I supposed to? its good to care about people

[Anonymous No.22239500]

>>22239491
>its good to care about people
No it isnt

[Anonymousn No.22239503]

Deleuze was right. People really can only interpret things in reductive Oedipal terms.

[Anonymous No.22239507]

>>22239488
>>22239491
What is wrong with letting people do what they want? Why do you feel the need to tell someone else what they ought to do with their life/body? I would maybe read that book, but not to get mad over it.

[Anonymous No.22239508]

>>22239507
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[Anonymous No.22239509]

>>22239481
Hey, you said it, not me.

[Anonymous No.22239511]

>>22239507
Because there are increasing points that their deluded worldview leaks into legislation that affects me.
moreover, I'd like for them to get more effective help rather than to validate their delusion and watch them hurt and destroy themself.

[Anonymous No.22239516]

>>22239508
I'm not a tranny, I literally called OP a spiritual tranny, in case you haven't noticed. You are one too, seethe and dilate. Thanks.
>>22239509
What? I don't care about trannies, I'm fine with them. Some are cool, others not really, like other people.

[Anonymous No.22239517]

>>22239486
She basically narrates a huge breakdown she had culminating in her punching herself to the point of bruises (>>22239344).

[Anonymous No.22239521]

>>22239517
That's not that huge of a breakdown honestly. Sigh, sounds like yet more delusional narcissistic female drama, I'm very very much tired of his

[Anonymous No.22239523]

>>22239511
>affects you
Are you a tranny?
>more effective help
Are you a psychologist, priest or whatever?

[Anonymous No.22239528]

>>22239523
No on both accounts
that doesn't mean I can't seek to understand and contribute to a solution.

[Anonymous No.22239537]

>>22239528
Why do you feel like contributing to the tranny cause? Are you friends with one?

[Anonymous No.22239543]

>>22239537
this is classic tranny rhetoric. they always try to frame any interest at all as some kind of psychological oddity.

[Anonymous No.22239550]

>>22239543
>tranny rhetoric
I'm just asking, I'm not a tranny and I kinda don't really care about them, beside some curiosity and them being somewhat interesting people because they are tormented in a way. And I just wrote a plausible explanation about it, I'm just asking what is yours.

[Anonymous No.22239551]

>>22239537
because its a prominent and relevant social phenomena that deeply impacts peoples lives and legislation that potentially affects me

[Anonymous No.22239573]

>>22239551
How it affects your life? Trannies being a thing and making surgeries on their genitals. I honestly don't really care, besides it being somewhat interesting, in a somewhat Tolstoy sense of every family being unhappy in its own way. I remember listening to a podcast and they got a bunch of trannies who did just fine with their families, so yeah, there is that too. I honestly don't care.

[Anonymous No.22239587]

>>22239573
You wrote a fucking essay about fictitious trannies that have good relationships with their families. That is peak high fantasy gay shit.

[Anonymous No.22239588]

>>22239551
>and legislation that potentially affects me
how?

[Anonymous No.22239603]

>>22239573
>>22239588
>How it affects your life?
Legislation like bill c-16 in Canada or intentional misgendering being considered a violation of human rights by the DoH and harassment by the Australian Human Rights Commission
these are topics that I need to be informed on if I'm going to have a voice in future discourse.
There's also basic human compassion. I see it best that these people do not mutilate themselves, but this is still something that warrants understanding and conversation before making assumptions.

You very clearly care very much, there is no need to hide it. It's ok.

[Anonymous No.22239609]

>>22239587
>wrote an essay
I listened to a podcast. I haven't wrote shit. I'm fine with them.
https://www.b9.com.br/shows/mamilos/mamilos-404-lgbt-e-familias-dialogos-possiveis/
This one, it is in Portuguese. And that is kinda the thing, there are people who were happy and are ok and it is somewhat "that is it, it is that fucking simple, just did the fucking thing".

[Anonymous No.22239613]

>>22239603
LOL fuck off troon

[Anonymous No.22239618]

>>22239613
how am I a troon....

[Anonymous No.22239620]

>>22239603
Looks like that legislation refers to intentional i.e. persistent misgendering, where you're intentionally fucking with people. It's not really something you need to be aware of unless you want to actively harass someone and want to know where the line is.
Also why are you combining Canadian and Australian law here lmao, you must live in one country and are simply looking for international examples of law to justify your persecution complex

[Anonymous No.22239630]

>>22239603
You don't understand what I mean by "I don't care", it means that I'm fine with whatever, because it doesn't really affect me in any way. I ask trannies somewhat the same things that I'm asking you.
>misgendering being
So what? Do you know any tranny?
>I see it best that these people do not mutilate themselves
Do you have a better alternative? Because they end up doing a lot of weird shit by themselves.

[Anonymous No.22239637]

>>22239620
>intentional i.e. persistent
intentional and persistent are not the same thing. even if they were a person should have the freedom not to engage in your delusions.

[Anonymous No.22239644]

>>22239637
Intentional and persistent is the only situation where you're going to run afoul of that law though.
> even if they were a person should have the freedom not to engage in your delusions.
What does this even mean
It's just a respect thing to call a person what they want to be called.

[Anonymous No.22239648]

>>22239618
You know all the troon laws and bump the troon threads

[Anonymous No.22239649]

>>22239644
address me as your highness in future posts, then.

[Anonymous No.22239650]

>>22239620
I brought up several countries to show it is a pertinent issue in any country, it isn't just an American circus act phenomena
>Looks like that legislation refers to intentional i.e. persistent misgendering, where you're intentionally fucking with people
I disagree with legislation such as this on principle, even if its my own race or religion being "fucked with".
>>22239630
>because it doesn't really affect me in any way
I just explained how it has the potential to. It seems that you are someone without principles and willing to just bend the knee as long as there isn't a rifle being shoved up your ass. Why even care to have discourse with me? just watch netflix
>Do you have a better alternative?
not really, but thats what we are trying to figure out
the suicide rates post op don't seem optimistic

[Anonymous No.22239663]

>reading a 300 page suicide note
Of course it’s depressing

[Anonymous No.22239675]

>>22239649
Your highness my lord what did you think of international best selling memoir phenomenon PageBoy by world respected artist Eliot Page?

[Anonymous No.22239686]

>>22239650
>I won't use arbitrary pronouns
Is that it? No one is asking you to marry a tranny or anything.
>the suicide rates post op don't seem optimistic
It seems that those things are still inconclusive, I don't know. And even then, are you willing to be a specialist on that shit? Why don't you study and start counseling kids and teens?

[Anonymous No.22239690]

>>22238955
>another tranny thread

[Anonymous No.22239693]

>>22239686
It is funny that you're willing to take a casual ambition to understand transgenders to a weird extreme, but not mandated violations of speech

[Anonymous No.22239701]

>>22239650
>I disagree with legislation such as this on principle, even if its my own race or religion being "fucked with".
kek you disagree with every legislation dealing with discrimination/ unfair dismissal based purely on protected categories like race and background? sure buddy

[Anonymous No.22239703]

>>22239507
Because transgenderism is essentially nothing more than a perverse extention of the plastic surgery industry. It's no secret why fashion companies promote this, because it's big bucks for them, at the expense of usually people at a low point in their lives, clamering to some kind of identity to hold on to. It's essentially a deeply vile industry of systemized sexual abuse

[Anonymous No.22239707]

>>22239701
Yes because the term "discrimination" very easily becomes abused

[Anonymous No.22239709]

>>22239693
I don't care, I'm as interested in trannies as I'm interested on incels, I don't think there is any extreme on this. I just like to look at people, it is that simple, I also read a bunch of stuff about religious people too, despite not being religious.
Why do you care about using a pronoun? Is it THAT important to you? Are you not willing to use an arbitrary pronoun so that other people feel better about themselves? This is what I'm talking about, is it that important to you that you will feel horrible because you are using the wrong pronoun or something?
And I'm just trying to understand your side of things to an weird extreme. You don't seem to be a tranny.

[Anonymous No.22239712]

>>22239280
>faggot
>they're
Anon it's a woman you can just say she

[Anonymous No.22239714]

>>22239703
Ultimately though people are allowed to get jewed by stuff like plastic surgery promoters and wanting to do this stuff to themselves
People will rant and rave about muh trannies while totally ignoring the women who want to bimbofy themselves and get fake boobs, lip fillers, botox and so on, because most people just have a weird and irrational hatred for trannies above all else

[Anonymous No.22239730]

>>22239707
It doesn't though, I don't thing spergs like you understand how these laws actually work
In the case of employment law it's just to protect people who are clearly fired solely on the basis of a protected basis, i.e. being a tranny. This is very hard to prove as well, it's very easy to fire them for any other reason
And even in these cases you can basically still discriminate if there is a reason for it, like a sports club or elite special forces can pretty much only hire men because they can prove you need to be in elite physical shape which most women can't achieve.

[Anonymous No.22239731]

>>22239703
Yes, they will provide whatever as long there is a demand for it, but still, I don't think it would end up being big bucks for them.
The point is why are those people in a low point of their lives. Maybe they are actually trannies, if they aren't, people have to figure out a way to separate the true ones from the fake ones.

[Anonymous No.22239739]

>>22239731
>I don't think it would end up being big bucks for them.
End up? It already is. This is a massive industry.

>demand
The demand is small, the money comes from NGOs and governments funding it.

>Maybe they are actually trannies
No such thing.

[Anonymous No.22239741]

>>22239730
>This is very hard to prove as well
it's easy if you have the right lawyers and can weaponize it

[Anonymous No.22239745]

>>22239739
So why haven't you solved trannies?

[Anonymous No.22239747]

>>22239731
>The point is why are those people in a low point of their lives.

That could be a number of things: depression, violence, abuse, etc. The point is that transgenderism as a concept is very clearly a modern invention to make boatloads of money, and most of the marketing for it is done by the right that actively opposes it

[Anonymous No.22239750]

>>22239745
The only solution to that problem is the final solution.

[Anonymous No.22239751]

>>22239739
>massive industry
It is not, there are more people getting lifting, botox, implants and so on. This tranny sex change stuff is pretty experimental and there are probably not that many people doing it, and I don't think it is that lucrative either. Also, it is pretty fucking risky, so I bet there aren't a lot of doctors willing to do that.
Especially considering the backlash they can get, considering people who regret surgery, or even people who simply disapprove it and boycott their clinic or something.

[Anonymous No.22239759]

>>22239747
I don't know, why would a woman feel like not only being a lesbian, but wearing men's clothes? Consider yourself, did you used to feel like doing girl's things back when you were a kid? Or you were into running around, climbing trees and doing things. Some people just are like that, there isn't much to be done about it.
>>22239750
>kill the trannies
You are a genius. Who would think that?

[Anonymous No.22239776]

>>22239759
>I don't know, why would a woman feel like not only being a lesbian, but wearing men's clothes?

Because humans aresocial creatures and this stuff is now being marketed on a massive scale. This isn't hard

[Anonymous No.22239782]

>>22239776
But not only that, also doing men's activities. That is the point. Some woman that would feels like hunting instead of staying at home.

[Anonymous No.22239783]

>>22239741
>it's easy if you have the right lawyers and can weaponize it
It's really not, this dumb short response you've given just proves my point that you have a very dim understanding of how the law works
You need to have clear evidence that the employer had some issue with the person's gender identity and acted solely on that.
It's very easy to just say "oh they didn't do this work and so I fired them" or whatever other genuine grounds there are for dismissal

[Anonymous No.22239784]

>>22239712
James st james is not a women

[Anonymous No.22239798]

>>22239507
Because we live in a society, and only a suicidal society would tolerate this.

[Anonymous No.22239803]

>>22239798
>>22239481
Yes, I'm sure trannies will destroy western civilization.

[Anonymous No.22239809]

>>22239751
Business is booming, actually.

[Anonymous No.22239813]

>>22239803
Western civilization is already destroyed, the new Reich will be built on the corpses of jews and their tranny golems, just like last time.

[Anonymous No.22239816]

>>22239803
the destruction of our principles will
ie when social conventions like gender are relegated to "social constructs" and therefore subject to undermining
the scientific method is a social construct, age of consent is a social construct, truth is a social construct
the deconstruction of social norms simply on the basis of being a social construct very easily can be destructive to civilization.

[Anonymous No.22239820]

>>22239809
I don't know, I still have a hard time believing that this is more profitable than messing with regular women. There are way more of them, I don't think I know that many trans people.

[Anonymous No.22239826]

>>22239816
Lmao imagine thinking social constructions should be deconstructed.

[Anonymous No.22239829]

>>22239813
>>22239816
This is what I don't get it, it doesn't really concern any of you. You will still be the same. You aren't obliged to be a tranny, not even to marry one, how does that change anything? I don't even see that many trannies outside, and there were some back when I was doing college, and I was fine with them, they were ok.

[Anonymous No.22239830]

>>22239820
Three of my high school friends who were in my clique are now trannies. Fucking THREE of them. There is no chance whatsoever they all thought they were the wrong gender twenty years ago.
>t millennial

[Anonymous No.22239836]

>>22239829
>it doesn't really concern any of you.
are you STILL that brazilian? I think you have your fingers in your ear holes at this point
it is about the principles. once everyone lives under an idea of "this doesn't concern you", you will realize that you are suddenly surrounded by lawless and dangerous people.

[Anonymous No.22239837]

>>22239745
I'm not in charge of an authoritarian dictatorship.

Yet.

>>22239751
>plastic surgery isn't a massive industry
>it's just a massive industry
Thank you for agreeing with me.

[Anonymous No.22239838]

>>22239751
>>22239686
>>22239573

>Trans-tech is a budding industry with an enormous opportunity, RKA claims. “Our estimates place the average cost of transition at $150,000 per person. Multiply that by an estimated population of 1.4 million transgender people, we’re taking about a market in excess of $200B. That is significant. That’s larger than the entire film industry.”

Why do you want to see people hurt and mutilate themselves? I mean your bosses, seeing as how you're repeating all the standard shill points and probably will be for hundreds of subsequent threads. The only thing we can do is spread facts and wake people up to this extremely messed up corporate product and the trauma and alienation it preys on. I mean just look at the faces in the article

Also /pol/ is a cesspool but they have lots of genuine redpills on this subject. If you consider yourself an educated person it's only fair to hear out the other side.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alyssawright/2020/12/08/trans-tech-is-a-budding-industry-so-why-is-no-one-investing/?sh=717ca57be3c3

[Anonymous No.22239841]

>>22239829
Go back to lgbt you ridiculous gay ass faggot.

[Anonymous No.22239845]

>>22239830
According to the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS), the most popular plastic surgery procedures in the US are:

Breast augmentation (Augmentation mammaplasty)
Nose reshaping (Rhinoplasty)
Eyelid surgery (Blepharoplasty)
Liposuction
Tummy tuck (Abdominoplasty)
Facelift (Rhytidectomy)
Breast lift (Mastopexy)
Dermabrasion

According to Newsweek, gender-confirmation surgeries increased by 20 percent from 2015 to 2016 in the U.S., with more than 3,000 such operations performed last year

According to the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS), there were 1.8 million cosmetic surgical procedures performed in the US in 2019 .

It is 3 thousand out of 1.8 million, this shit is exactly like I said. I bet most doctors aren't willing to mess around with it, I literally ask that to a French tranny on /int/, and it is exactly this, there aren't enough doctors willing to mess around with that crap.

[Anonymous No.22239851]

>>22239837
>feels like being a dictator
>can't read
KEK

[Anonymous No.22239852]

>>22239845
You're not counting people who are taking hormones but not getting surgeries.

[Anonymous No.22239860]

>>22239836
It doesn't fucking concern you, are you also invested in studying suicide? Are you also invested in studying drug addiction? And mental illness? And homelessness? And so on. You are just full of shit.

[Anonymous No.22239865]

>>22239860
Eat a dick and choke to death on it troon.

[Anonymous No.22239869]

>>22239860
>are you also invested in studying suicide? Are you also invested in studying drug addiction? And mental illness? And homelessness?
Yes.
as I will again repeat
once everyone adheres to this "ideology" (which is actually a lack of an ideology) that you should just let everyone do what they want, you'll suddenly find yourself living in a land of lawlessness, and you will suddenly find yourself surrounded by dangerous people
yes, with this ideology comes.... drug addiction, mental illness and homelessness. so yes I am concerned with all of them. they go hand in hand with this idea that you can simply do what you want, even when it comes at the cost of destroying yourself and by extension society

[Anonymous No.22239874]

>>22239852
Yes, but those aren't that expensive,
>The cost of obtaining prescriptions and regular check-ups can range between $1,500 and $2,000 per year. Trans men on hormone therapy typically receive testosterone injections for around $80 per month and testosterone patches for more than $300.

> However, according to The Commons Cafe, the average American spends about $1,100 on Starbucks coffee each year.

Kinda like starbucks, but worse, because there aren't that many people that are trans, there are way more people who drink coffee.

[Anonymous No.22239880]

>>22239874
>there are way more people who drink coffee.
Billions must die

[Anonymous No.22239884]

>>22239869
How does that happen? The "actual shit holes" don't have any of that. They actually are filled with people like >>22239865. I seriously don't understand how trannies will destroy society.

[Anonymous No.22239886]

>>22239884
>I seriously don't understand how trannies will destroy society.
I explained it to you here, and you willfully ignored it and called me full of shit
>>22239836

[Anonymous No.22239888]

>>22239884
Mainly by being annoying.

[Anonymous No.22239894]

>>22239886
And what I'm asking is where did you got those principles? Why it is it that important to you?

[Anonymous No.22239896]

>>22239874
Yes troon your fag friends getting hormones off welfare is totally the same as wagies buying coffee.

[Anonymous No.22239903]

>>22239896
You were arguing the "industry" size and that it would be extremely lucrative. It would be literally like selling coffee.

[Anonymous No.22239904]

>>22239829
It's my society, and I'm sick of you shitting it up.

[Anonymous No.22239911]

>>22239860
>It doesn't fucking concern you
Yes it does.

>do you seriously care about your fellow man?!
Yes I do.

[Anonymous No.22239914]

>>22239904
It is theirs too, that is the thing. Why do you want to not only get to choose what you can do, but what others can do? What entitles you that?

[Anonymous No.22239919]

>>22239894
Because I like living in a functional society, which necessarily requires the exclusion of leftytroons.
Either we can tolerate leftytroons, we can have nice things, but we clearly cannot have both.

[Anonymous No.22239922]

>>22239911
And how does bothering them makes it any better? Is there any research on this? That you can just bully them back to their "right gender"? Is this actually a thing?

[Anonymous No.22239923]

>>22239894
For me its the bible
you must always appeal to the transcendental, or the highest possible authority when arguing for principles
thats why our founding fathers appealed to our rights as "endowed by our creator".
I know you will respond inflammatory to my appeal to religion, it is because you've made yourself god. thats what is really wrapped up inside your "just leave people alone" rhetoric. you want each man to be his or her own god, with no accountability or space to self critique. and this is why the ultimate conclusion is drug addiction, mental illness, self harm etc.
now you will STILL say you don't understand why it concerns me, or sky daddy nonsense
you choose to not understand

[Anonymous No.22239929]

>>22239914
It isn't your society, you're just a parasite killing the host.
The only possible outcome is your death, the only question in how far the rest of us allow things to degenerate until we kill you.

[Anonymous No.22239931]

>>22239903
Listen guy you dont pass and all the women who meet you laugh at you when you leave the room hontroon.

[Anonymous No.22239935]

>>22239923
>The Bible
I don't care, it is just that you believe in this, and don't believe in science. Ok, you are very superstitious and mistrusts science.

[Anonymous No.22239938]

>>22239377
Trannyism is literally the product of demons

[Anonymous No.22239943]

>>22239931
>ze women
I don't give a shit about women, buddy. Not even any other people, unless they are paying my bills.
>>22239929
>my death
Whatever, get help before you end up getting arrested.

[Anonymous No.22239944]

>>22239935
I'm willing to discuss the science, thats why I'm here
you keep insisting that I'm not allowed to care because it doesn't concern me

[Anonymous No.22239952]

>>22239943
>I don't give a shit about women
You obviously do since your entire existence is tied to failing at pretending to be a femoid.

[Anonymous No.22239954]

>>22239944
I don't know why the outcome of this is that important to you. I wouldn't care either way, if they make it so it is illegal to sell hormones and get surgeries, it wouldn't make any difference in my life. That is what I'm talking about.
In the sense that, I'm ok with letting science figure things out with people who are willing to do those things.

[Anonymous No.22239957]

>>22239952
I'm not a tranny, I'm not gay. I'm not an incel either. Nor a virgin, and no, I didn't had to pay for it. I just enjoy looking at things. It is that simple.

[Anonymous No.22239959]

>>22239943
>I-I'M GONNA HAVE YOU ARRESTED
I'm sure the cops you defunded will get right on that.

[Anonymous No.22239965]

>>22239954
>I don't know why the outcome of this is that important to you.

I. JUst. FUCKING. explained it to you
multiple times

[Anonymous No.22239966]

>>22239959
>cops
>me
I don't know what you are talking about. I have means to defend myself at home.

[Anonymous No.22239971]

>>22239957
Words words words. Its the 21st century no one will judge you badly for being a homo on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.22239972]

>>22239965
No, you said some shit about society, when it hasn't really happened anywhere else. You just said things about the Bible, then you said that you were cool with science, now you are saying that science shouldn't mess with it. Why are you so emotional invested in this? What is the thing with the Bible that drives you do this?

[Anonymous No.22239974]

>>22239972
>now you are saying that science shouldn't mess with it.
please greentext where I said that

[Anonymous No.22239975]

>>22239966
>I don't know what you are talking about. I have means to defend myself at home.

[Anonymous No.22239982]

Well /lit/?

[Anonymous No.22239984]

>>22239974
>I don't know why the outcome of this is that important to you. I wouldn't care either way, if they make it so it is illegal to sell hormones and get surgeries, it wouldn't make any difference in my life. That is what I'm talking about.

>>22239965
Then you get into this, when science hasn't figured it out. They are still studying those things. All this gender crap and studies of whatever shit that I don't know, and those meme stuff. They are supposed to figure this shit out.

[Anonymous No.22239986]

>>22239982
Yes, i think sex change people are deeply disturbed.

[Anonymous No.22239988]

>>22239982
The only worth trans fags have in society is to be cocksleeves for "straight" Chads.

[Anonymous No.22239990]

>>22239982
>let's make comic books
>this will solve everything
If there is a way to find out who is and who isn't at a young age, then yeah, there will be trans kids, wtf is that even supposed to mean?

[Anonymous No.22240009]

The thing is that we're reentering the Weimar realm if you go by the tranny and capitalist antics at play, which was horrific enough that it turned someone who had just come back from one of the most brutal wars in human history into a militarist.
I, for one, would like for this to remain a hypothetical.

[Anonymous No.22240014]

>>22240009
>le tranny
>scourge of western civilization
>destroyer of worlds

[Anonymous No.22240017]

>>22240014
>>22240009
Were not far at all from trannies being demonized to the point of rounding them up in concentration camps

[Anonymous No.22240022]

>>22240017
Not good enough, we need everyone even tangentially involved in the industry to be sent to gas chambers.

[Anonymous No.22240035]

>>22240014
Not quite: they're a symptom, not the cause. The real cause lies in the pharmaceutical-industrial complex and their pet psychologists, who seeks to make a mountain out of a molehill, pollute the airwaves with infohazards, and turn the political climate into an untraversable hellhole all for the specific end of making fat stacks of cash (metaphorical).

[Anonymous No.22240040]

>>22240009
Accelerate

[Anonymous No.22240043]

>>22240022
EVERY TIME?!

[Anonymous No.22240049]

Aaaaaaaand /pol/ is here. That's the end of the thread, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.22240051]

>>22240049
ok fuck off then, why announce it

[Anonymous No.22240053]

>>22240049
Now the thread is over

[Anonymous No.22240061]

>>22240049
>le pol boogeyman
You fags need another playbook

[Anonymous No.22240070]

>>22240035
Consider the sheer number of institutions that have been reduced to unsavagable garbage in order to claim chemically castrating children and amputating their genitals to be considered "essential health care".

[Anonymous No.22240121]

>>22239750
So you agree there's a genetic component that can predict trannyness?

[Anonymous No.22240147]

>>22240121
Yes, if you kill all the jews, the problem goes away overnight.

[Anonymous No.22240397]

>>22240061
Make us some mystical hitler summoning ritual crap.

[Anonymous No.22240440]

>>22240397
Nigger I got retard goth hoes preparing a blood ritual to resurect the homie Hitler.

[Anonymous No.22240447]

Unironically, cast Elliot Page as Robin. In a campy, over the top batman film.

[Anonymous No.22240450]

>>22240440
KEK

[Anonymous No.22240551]

>>22240447
who as batman? nicholas cage?

[Anonymous No.22240588]

>>22240049
Pol does seem weirdly always right desu

[Anonymous No.22240891]

>>22240070
can you link the video?
>>22239675
the prose was a little weak but if she didn't use a ghostwriter i say not bad for an amature.

[Anonymous No.22240916]

>>22240551
Kristen Stewart.

[Anonymous No.22240922]

>>22239008
nice

[Anonymous No.22241073]

>>22239481
>trannies
No
>cybelline cults
yes
TOTAL ISHTARITE DEATH

[Anonymous No.22241081]

>>22239982
This artist is a babyfurrie into diapers btw.

[Anonymous No.22241086]

>>22239982
Serious question: How can a child know they're trans? When I was a kid I wanted to be a dinosaur when I grew up.
Should I have been allowed to tattoo lizard skin on my face, sharpen my teeth, and have my nose removed like that one guy? Surely no one would say yes to that?

[Anonymous No.22241102]

>>22239860
>are you also invested in studying suicide?
Yes, I don't want my friends to kill themselves

> Are you also invested in studying drug addiction?
Yes
>And mental illness?
Like trooning out?
>And homelessness?
Yes
TTD

[Anonymous No.22241124]

>>22239943
>Whatever, get help before you end up getting arrested.
Over 50% of homicides go unsolved
take that as you may!

[Anonymous No.22241137]

>>22240049
>its so over
>billions must chop their cock off

[Anonymous No.22241142]

>>22241086
you cannot as a kid, you can during puberty, around the same age when people are able to realize they are gay and so on, so let's say around 13-15 usually

[Anonymous No.22241159]

>>22241142
>you're no longer a kid at 13

[Anonymous No.22241170]

>>22241159
go away, you know I meant

[Anonymous No.22241248]

>>22239344
https://youtu.be/6hpYnKB2hn0

[Anonymous No.22241256]

>>22238955
He seems fine

[Anonymous No.22241546]

>>22241086
You probably can't, but they might end up figuring that shit out. This is the problem, what are the alternatives? Those Bible fuckers had 2000 years to figure it out, and they took the path of not solving shit, bullying people into not doing stuff and killing them. Guess what? It didn't work, because trans people are children of cis parents. So whoever says "bible" or anything in a discussion like this shouldn't be taken seriously, it is that simple.

[Anonymous No.22241579]

>>22241546
holy fuck are you the retard from the stephen hawking thread ?

[Anonymous No.22241606]

>>22241579
>So whoever says "bible" or anything in a discussion like this shouldn't be taken seriously, it is that simple.

[Anonymous No.22241608]

>>22241579
>Those Bible fuckers had 2000 years to figure it out
2000 years and you haven't solved it. Now fuck off, shut the fuck up, and let science do its thing.

[Anonymous No.22241610]

kek it is you lmao

[Anonymous No.22241612]

>>22241610
>bible zealotry
>"trans activism"
What is the deal with the Bible that turns people into retards?

[Anonymous No.22241614]

Maybe certain Christians shouldn't have their place on a democratic society. They are too dangerous.

[Anonymous No.22241615]

who said anything about the bible ? who said anything about christianity ?
lmao

[Anonymous No.22241619]

We can always just send them to reeducation camps and arrest the ones who refuse to go.

[Anonymous No.22241623]

>>22241615
>multiple mentions to it
>I literally post something about it
You are clearly not reading it. Are you stalking me? Are you going to come to my house and keep pressing the doorbell everyday?

[Anonymous No.22241627]

you were replying to me tho lmao

[Anonymous No.22241630]

>>22241627
>religious
>acting like a retard
This is why I felt like being a psychiatrist. This is absolutely some mental disease.

[Anonymous No.22241631]

>>22241081
Almost all trannies are paedophiles and many are zoophiles too, yes.

[Anonymous No.22241633]

>>22241630
yeah sure
why did you leave the thread yesterday ?
it was just getting good

[Anonymous No.22241637]

>>22241633
I don't know why I would bother explaining, since it was exactly what I said, that thread was about the thread itself, not me, not you. So it was done. I honestly don't care about you, either way is fine, if you keep acting like a retard or not, I'm ok with it.

[Anonymous No.22241640]

kek

[Anonymous No.22241642]

>>22239938
Based and gay demonpilled

Fuck your gay thread as well OP

[Anonymous No.22241646]

>>22241640
There is no dialogue, I just felt like showing it. Straight honest, that religious people's definition of dialogue is some weird shit. You are still doing it, you are high on religion, you can't read. I feel sorry for people like you, but don't worry, science will figure it out. You will be able to read eventually.

[Anonymous No.22241650]

lmao

[Anonymous No.22241676]

Why they can't handle it? Why do they turn into retards when they can't answer things? What is wrong with being actually honest?

[Anonymous No.22241816]

I'm pretty fucking sick of the meme that trannies should be allowed to transition because it supposedly helps them. They are a net negative on the world.
They don't deserve help they deserve death.

[Anonymous No.22241876]

Transitioning does NOT help. Not even in the slightest. It's so fucked up on a medical level especially.

>You shall NOT harm the patient
So much for Hippocrates

[Anonymous No.22242232]

>>22239829
Oh my god SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.22242250]

>>22242232
>ze tranny single-handedly destroyed rome
Now I understand why people worship trannies. Who would imagine they were so powerful?

[Anonymous No.22242257]

>>22242250
Acting like a smarmy retard just makes people hate you more

[Anonymous No.22242263]

>>22242257
So ze tranny is ze uber macht being? Unrivaled power in history? Nothing compares to its destructive potential?

[Anonymous No.22242268]

>>22242232
Literally every era had strife and discord. Trannies have become such a boogeyman on this site. Most of the anons obsessed with battling them don’t have close interactions with them in the first place. It’s all dear mongering twitter screencaps and clickbait. PC woke culture is toxic but so is the /pol/ mindset. There has never been such levels of herd mentality as there is now. Anons are literally letting screenshots and propaganda ruin their life.

[Anonymous No.22242269]

>>22239809
Zizek was right

[Anonymous No.22242272]

>>22242263
Destroying shit is easy and not impresive.
And I would argue niggers have the greatest destructive potential.
Trannies are just the result of everyone checking out from civilization.

[Anonymous No.22242292]

>>22238955
>lack of affection from him

[Anonymous No.22242293]

>>22242268
Trannyism is the single most evil ideology ever conceived of, and no issue is more important than destroying it.
Even gassing jewish babies doesn't even come close, at least they just died instead of having to live to see themselves irreversibly mutlated into a horrific farce of the human form.
You would have better luck normalizing Mexican cartel execution videos than trannyism, as they fall into the same uncanny valley of disgust where it's still recognizable enough to tell that it was human at some point.

[Anonymous No.22242314]

>>22242293
Do you even read books? Why are you here? You’re the fag with a folder of tranny shit, aren’t you? Your father would be ashamed if he knew

[Anonymous No.22242328]

>>22242314
I'm sure your father was delightes to learn that his family line ended with his disgusting mentally ill son chopping his dick off and crossdressing in public to play out his AGP exhibition fetish.

[Anonymous No.22242343]

>>22242328
Except I’m not a tranny. I don’t particularly like trannies, but I don’t exactly dislike them either. I pay them no mind as I would to a schizo. It seems like someone with a folder of trannies is pretty mentally ill himself. Go spam this weird shit elsewhere. One is as great as his arch enemy and your enemy is a tranny

[Anonymous No.22242361]

>>22242343
You can't even pass on an anonmyous imageboard.

[Anonymous No.22242368]

>>22242361
This anon is a tranny in denial and will probably eventually ack himself and join the 40%

[Anonymous No.22242378]

>>22242368
I missed out on the magical experience of being groomed by genderclowns in public school growing up, so no.

[Anonymous No.22242392]

>>22240043
sure seems like it !

[Anonymous No.22242393]

Well /lit/?

[Anonymous No.22242409]

>>22238955
This thread is filled with cucks. If I ever have a daughter I'm making her transition to male, and I will leave him my penis as inheritance.

[Anonymous No.22242411]

>>22242378
Here we have the headline and cartoon-obsessed schizo bargaining that she can‘t possibly be one of them because contrived rearing necessities don‘t fit into place.

[Anonymous No.22242420]

>>22242409
My trans son will avenge me, and make up for my incel years. Dicking all the bitches.

[Anonymous No.22242512]

>It's one of these books where the author is truly baring their soul even if they're also clearly lying to themselves or recalling events in self-serving or rationalizing ways
People with autistic/asperger's and related mental configurations, like the sort of "excess" interiority that can lead to quirky genius or to BPD/NPD and furry fandom, often lapse into personalities like this if they don't have strong moral and metaphysical frameworks showing them a better way of life. They become ingrown and self-obsessed, and all the growth they could have done in the direction of becoming a doctor or mathematician or whatever is channeled into their interpersonal affairs, which also happen to be the weak point of autists/aspergers types, as they understand everything through rigid tit-for-tat dynamics, because they see others with more ordinary emotional ranges reacting to things and they unconsciously make rationalized abstractions of those reactions and then try to situate their own range of possible reactions and identities within those abstractions. Whereas the neurotypical normies just reacting with "normal" emotions are primarily non-abstracters, they live more by following personalities and character archetypes than impersonal patterns, so they make plenty of room for exceptions.

Normies also live by "sedimenting" things unsystematically, they amass experiences gradually and nuance their existing projections about the world and coping mechanisms etc. The downside of this is that normies are very limited because this is an inefficient way to learn about the world - it's comparable to the employee who is a good employee of this or that job because he's never dreamed of anything different and has just slowly and (in a way) thoughtfully amassed little bits of "wisdom" at the job, vs. the well-trained specialist who in theory is far superior to the ho-hum employee and able to see farther, but who sees all such workplaces and their employees as nested sets of abstractions, that can even be torn down and built up again as needed. The latter tends to miss nuance and particular, to be inhuman and unfeeling, but to have greater efficiency at the macro-level.

FtM troons draw their ranks substantially but not entirely from this demographic of women, which is smaller than the equivalent demographic among men but even more pressurized and isolated as a result, even before taking into account the "normal" majority of naturally feminine women's airheaded childishness, dopey dipshit optimism, carefree hedonism, carefree lack of worldliness, and unexamined entitlement, their dominant personality traits, as particularly well situated to shame and isolate women who lack or reject these traits.

[Anonymous No.22242514]

>>22242512
But where a male autist or sperg would be stabilized by other spergs, and only get into trouble when he is especially autistic and/or falls into an especially bad group of autists at an especially vulnerable time in his life, like a bunch of lolicon communists on discord when he's 15, FtMs are much more likely to be isolated and utterly misunderstood and to have no way to stabilize their autism in relation to other autists, for instance by going "oh so this is who I am, I play DWARF FORTRESS with the lads, now this all makes sense." As the years go by, Dwarf Fortress with the lads becomes being the best topologist in the class becomes being the best finance guy or self-publishing books on Chaldaean sacred geometry or whatever.

FtM troons are the supreme autists in a way, because they are aut-istic, utterly self-oriented, as they have no decent reference points, when they try to find other autist women who have problematic relationships with their own femininity they instead find trillions of seemingly unconscious airhead child-women (normal women) who both provide no help and are actively hostile entities in their strange status games to be the best and ultimate woman by being the most debased and childish child-whore-slave of men. If a proto-FtM tomboy already has ideas like "I don't want to be a child-whore-slave; that's demeaning" in her head, or she is simply so powerfully autistic that she can naturally generate principled thoughts that resist the waves of normal female emotion battering them down into conformity, her reward is total alienation both from other women and from her own femininity, which feels like a salient of other women's femininity inside her own being, but not "of" her, never accepted by her. And because autistic people prefer to live by abstractions they generated and can in principle check and re-generate at any moment, this experience increasingly torments the FtM:
>The female body is a chthonian machine, indifferent to the spirit who inhabits it. (Paglia)
until her abstracting rigid non-femininity (thought) and her invasive, unsolicited, unaffirmed yet always dominant femininity are elevated into diametrically opposed abstractions in a Manichaean system. She misidentifies her capacity for abstract thought with masculinity because it is the opposite of her irrational femininity, when in fact she is just the rare thinking subtype of woman, the woman capable of abstract thought. Abstract thought is a human universal and not an essentially male activity. It's just so rare in women that one can be forgiven for thinking it is exclusively male. The same goes for quintessential "male" virtues (vir-tus, literally from vir, man) like honor, pride, self-sacrifice, yearning for truth, all things ordinary women are blind to in their quest to become the ultimate rape victim sex princess.

[Anonymous No.22242521]

>>22242514
Once the Manichaean duality is established, she can finally vent her abnormal and usually stifled emotions at it, particularly venting rage at the hated evil side of the equation. After a lifetime of feeling out of joint and phase with reality, always having to check or ignore one's emotions, it feels good being able to join up your powerful and refined capacity for abstract thought with your emotions, busting open the dam containing the latter and becoming an intellectually justified moral crusader. This happens to autistic men too, which is why you can prick a Terence Tao and he will go into a tirade about how only his way of computing sigma is correct and how he is persecuted for his beliefs, but because Terence has had a lifetime of channeling this autistic lack of "normal" perspective into structures at least acknowledged by normal people, this acts as both a shield for him and a mould for his neurosis, forcing him to color mostly within lines that are also firm lines recognized by normies as a space in which it's acceptable to be vibrantly and intensely idiosyncratic.

FtM troons have none of this and in fact they do the worst thing of all, they channel their insane neurotic autism and desire to understand everything through abstraction into the only world they've ever had even partway membership in, which is woman world, aka hell filled with slave child whores bragging about who gets raped by the best daddy. Instead of truly escaping to male world and becoming an honorary male autist (a dangerous path in its own right, as paradoxically going from being the worst woman in a group of woman to being the best woman in a group of men who have no frame of reference usually reactivates a woman's biological imperatives and turns her into a fat chungus prostitute or "the dungeon master's girlfriend" type hanger-on and source of constant drama) the FtM instead tries to extract the almost nonexistent filament of conceptual and conceptualizing activity from within woman world, and "work it up into" a purely abstract and systematized reference point in questions of identity.

This is the final act of attempting to end the Manichaean dualism inside them by conquering the hated female principle with the noble male principle, which is really abstract "finally-free-from-femininity-ness" given a caricaturish "masculine" exterior, hence the tank tops and Popeye tattoos and love of strong jawlines (something the most masculine men in the world, extreme autists, are usually lacking).

[Anonymous No.22242524]

>>22239289
>>If I was not born, I'd have no perception of what I'd be missing, nor would anyone else miss me. This would suit me just fine. We are all micro specks, almost nothing int he grand scheme.

Kek at this cliche rick and morty tier nihilism

[Anonymous No.22242529]

>>22242521
The categories used by the FtM to define both her enemy and the weapon for overcoming her enemy are ultimately derived from femininity and the merely abstract negation of femininity. Consequently, Ellen Page is writing for everyone and no one, because she still writes within the feminine sphere, merely abstractly negating it, which is incomprehensible to women, who simply "are" it, and incomprehensible to men, whose overriding instinct is "why don't you just stop being a fruit and play Dwarf Fortress then. Hey look at this rock I found." To women she seems like a failed woman, i.e., a charity case and thus just yet another prop for normal women to use in their endless empty grandstanding. To men she seems like a dyke - i.e., still a woman, i.e., still a weak spastic histrionic unworldly uninteresting fruit who expects to be doted on and given attention, even paradoxically in her quest to become male, when male practically means "not entitled to attention or doting by default."

She is aware of this on some level because what she has really done is force the two sides of the Manichaean duality to touch, like holding two magnets of opposite polarity together through sheer force, and every time she sleeps and the magnets repel apart again, the force crashes through all the structures (lies) she managed to erect while holding magnets together and briefly making everything stay "just so" in a way that fits her intellectualizing abstractions of pure non-femininity ("masculinity").

Every line of "Pageboy" is either an autistic abstraction while the two magnets are held together, or the result of lashing out in despair as the magnets come apart, causing pain and frustration. Sometimes she is showing off to women that she has a "right" not to enjoy a dick up in her. Sometimes she is showing off normal female ambivalence about male sexual aggression and pathetic "heh, you like that don't you babe ;)" sexual overconfidence, ambivalence which normal women deal with by swerving in the other direction, the direction of self-debasement and acceptance that daddy is a bit cringe but that's okay because he's still daddy. The overall effect is just a mess: this person is clearly not happy with who they are, but as OP says, she is also entirely sincere in this chaotic flailing. The quest itself is sincere, but all the categories of thought used to pursue the quest make no sense. It's like she's trying to find the coldest wettest fire in the world to put out the fire within her.

[Anonymous No.22242750]

>>22242512
>>22242514
>>22242521
>>22242529
based

[Anonymous No.22242758]

>anon produces a four-post analysis fueled by high-purity autism, one of whose axioms is that the vast majority of women are morally and/or spiritually retarded
Absolutely magical.

[Anonymous No.22242802]

>>22239507
I dont like watching people drown in their self delusions just to end up a homeless ranting schizo on Skid Row or Sunset Blvd.

[Anonymous No.22242808]

>>22242802
Post proof. Some random tranny invented the Rust programming language, it is working and getting better.

[Anonymous No.22243814]

>>22239507
Doesn't even need refuting at this point as its horrid results are self-evident

[Anonymous No.22244105]

>>22242512
>>22242514
>>22242521

This is true enough, but it overlooks the fact that many of these women are just outright schizophrenics. The only FtM I've personally known was a complete space cadet who had to be hospitalised for psychotic episodes at least once a year.

[Anonymous No.22244142]

>>22242808
Im trans btw, not sure if that matters owo

[Anonymous No.22244159]

>>22244142
I'm not, but I don't think that trans are the most powerful gender that will be able to destroy the entire western civilization, nor that they are the harbingers of the complete degeneration of society. Other countries that are "trans friendly" are just fine. If anything it is the "trans hostile" ones that are literal shit holes.

[Anonymous No.22244173]

>>22244159
>the countries sterilizing their children and amputating their genitals are doing just fine

[Anonymous No.22244501]

>>22239783
You fucking moron, people weaponize anti-discrimination laws all the time. Terminating any employee who is part of a minority group is more difficult with such laws in place.

[Anonymous No.22244511]

>>22244173
So how many countries have this amazing strategist conquered?

[Anonymous No.22244535]

>>22239712
Pronoun police, over here.

[Anonymous No.22244543]

>>22238955
Somehow you reminded me of "Self-Made Man" by Norah Vincent. A nyc lib lesbian larps as a man. She finds out men are not as privileged as she thought. This book was a decade ago. At some point she an heroed I think.
>>22239938
>>Trannyism is literally the product of demons
It's funny to me how much they resemble Chaos form Warhammer. They even mutate into monsters and corrupt everything around them.

[Anonymous No.22244558]

>>22242232
>le trannerinos are LITERALLY THE SACKING OF ROME AND THE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE!!1
And I thought queers were melodramatic.

[Anonymous No.22244567]

<VOICES IN HER HEAD
>VOICES IN HIS HEAD
<VOICES IN THEIR HEAD
>VOICES IN ITS HEAD

Legit sounds like (s/t)he(y) got Havana'd by kike spooks putting voices in her head. They're such scumbags. This may also be why so many others are trooning out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

[Anonymous No.22244569]

>>22244567
Are the Jews and troons in the room with you right now?

[Anonymous No.22244579]

>>22242328
Is pic related supposed to be anti-tranny? Becaude it only supports them. The whole point of 'transitioning' is keeping them from killing themselves.

[Anonymous No.22244591]

>>22244569
not him but yes, there are many in this thread. trannies, listen, you are just fetishists who have gone too long with a license to act out your fetish in normal life. you know you are just addicted to this. that's all being a "tranny" is. you're like a gay who has been at a fag parade for too long.

take off your dog mask, step away from the children, and learn to wear normal clothes again. you are not a dog, you are not your sexual predilections, you are a boring normal person who can masturbate to whatever he wants in his free time, without making his entire life revolve around it. if this doesn't convince you, think of how fun it's going to be trying to maintain the delusion that you're a cute woman, when you're 35. and 45. and 55. your best passing years are already behind you, and you never passed. turn back now.

[Anonymous No.22244735]

>>22244591
Thank you, your words are based & correctpilled.

>>22244569
Nice trolling, but the thrust of my previous message is this:

Carefully modulated microwaves can be (and are) used effectively to put VOICES INTO PEOPLES' HEADS; it is very likely that such high-tech psyops were performed on Ellen/Elliot just to troon her/him out as a sort of sick joke, because, c'mon, jews clearly hate whites and love to both profit from and ruin beautiful whites. Tinfoil hat? Fuck you; follow the clues.

>tl;dr: CIA/MOSSAD trooned Ellen into Elliot ala Havana Syndromesque remote brainfuckery

[Anonymous No.22244754]

>>22242512
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>>22242529

Absolutely based & redpilled effortposting, wise fren; I would like to include them in a letter which I've just written the rough draft for... but this little anon does not want to send it to M. Paige directly.

Would someone else be so kind as to clean this up, send it down the channel to him/her, and report back? k thx

>letter follows:

Dear Elliot,

Your dedication to your craft is commendable. As Ellen, you were Hollywood's darling, but more akin to Artemis than Aphrodite; cerebral rather than carnal, your pathos elicited deeper understanding transcendant beyond mere sympathy for your portrayal of Juno's titular protagonist, making the experience accesible to all but the most obtuse viewers. Quiet but intense, you played Generation X's "kid sister" in many cherished roles, and, at the height of your career as an actRESS, practically any intelligent female role was open to you, as if it were written for you. With diligent agency, dizzying Hollywood success belonged to you. Too easy!

Now, you have risen to a challenge few method actors would even dare to contemplate: you have cast aside the vain vestiges of femininity, and transformed yourself -- mind, body & soul -- into Elliot, a man, an actOR, a masculine thespian ready to tackle the world (and any male leading or supporting role). Now, this is a challenge! Bravo; we look forward to seeing Elliot Paige on the marquis again, and watching you push the envelope in your next critical performance.

You have a great number of fans, more than you can count, and we all love you platonically with unconditional, nigh avuncular, affection. We cheered your marriage, and mourned your divorce. Love isn't always easy. This message is sent with the kind of love that a child has for a favorite friend or cousin, and, with sincere hope, finds you in good spirits. As a demonstration of the community's care for you, and in support of you, another's words soon follow.

The following four posts were written by another anonymous poster and lifted from this thread -- >>22238955 -- please read & ruminate upon these thoughtful words....

>>22242512
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>(continued)

[Anonymous No.22244757]

>>22244754
>(continuing)

You have been a victim of severe psychological torture, partially self-inflicted, largely family-inflicted, but mostly Hollywood-inflicted. Like so many other bright & promising stars, perfidious monsters eroded your senses and surrounded you with confusion until you lost sight of truth. A particular tribe of vampires has gotten their sadistic claws into you, and, having been the very picture of gentile beauty, they put voices in your head and drugs into your bloodstream in order to twist & destroy your beauty, because they hate beauty & truth. In their hateful eyes, you represented the feminine strength of the gentile woman; they could not let that be, but they wanted to keep you alive as their toy, so they had some kike shrink convince you to cut off your tits and sew a fake dick made out of your arm skin onto your genitals. They laugh even now, thinking of all the beautiful goyim babies you will never birth through what was once your absolutely perfect vagina, children, unborn, who'll never breastfeed at your once-exquisite bosom. They cackle, those children of the Devil, as they fondly recall using you to make billions of dollars through films featuring your idyllic face, and think about how you'll never really get to enjoy those fruits, or many others. They have murdered you. You are a casualty of a million year race war between Neanderthal & Cromagnon, and your death shall be avenged. The love we had for you was -- and is -- platonic; however, when once many of us hoped to gain your love, not as a conquest, but as the gift of an angel, now that love joins the rest of the fuel in our hateful, necessary war to ultimately exterminate the demons responsible for horrifically butchering your body, your mind, your soul. This is but one of ten thousand times ten thousand tragedies they've wrought, and continue to wrought. There shall be a reckoning, and your name -- both of your names -- shall be reminded to them at the gallows.

Regards,
Anonymous

[Anonymous No.22245505]

>>22239507
they're getting into my hobbies, not to mention their schizo obsession of cancelling anyone who shows a slight interest in anything Harry Potter related

[Anonymous No.22245783]

>>22244579
You don't keep someone from killing themselves by irreparably turning them inot a horrific farce of the opposite sex, that's why they kill themselves in the first place.

[Anonymous No.22245786]

Christcucks can't accept that trannies are literally God's will.

[Anonymous No.22245897]

>>22245786
Yeah, to kill for exp.

[Anonymous No.22245903]

>>22245897
Very funny, Joshua. Now get back to cleaning the gender reassignment facilities. Your tranny overlords aren't happy with your recent productivity, put more effort into it. Thanks for your attention, this was a message automated by ChatGPT for employers.