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When did you accept that Samwise Gamgee was the true hero of LotR?

>> No.22225042

>>22225041
Always. Also Rorschach is the true hero.

>> No.22225044

The real hero is the guy who puts down LotR and picks up something worth reading, instead.

>> No.22225048

>>22225044
Name 5 examples

>> No.22225050

>>22225048
me
my friend
my second friend
my third friend
my fourth friend

>> No.22225053

>>22225050
Of books worth reading instead

>> No.22225060

>>22225044
There isn't a single other series in it's genre that even comes close to holding a candle to this masterpiece. Kindly fuck off.

>inb4 Divine Comedy

>> No.22225070

>>22225060
It’s not even the best series in fantasy

>> No.22225137

>>22225070
Name one that's better.

>> No.22225140

>>22225137
Gormenghast

>> No.22225147

>>22225140
Something that wouldn't even exist without Tolkien's work. Great example.

>> No.22225148

>>22225041
It was obvious the first time I read it.

>> No.22225154

>>22225147
2/3 of Gormenghast was already published before the first LOTR book
>Titus Groan (1946), Gormenghast (1950)
>The Fellowship of the Ring (1954)
lol

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>>22225041
The Fellowship are all heroes in my book.

Also, when did LOTR artwork get so fucking ugly? I don't remember the artwork back then being so bad.

>> No.22227058

>>22225044
Post your top 5 wisest books right now.

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>>22225041
>Frodo
>Carries the most cursed object in his universe
>Even literal Demi-Gods are afraid of said object
>He's mostly able to resist the ring's influence
>Ring gets more powerful the closer they get to Volcano where it was forged
>Frodo gets so fucking hurt Sam drags him to Volcano entrance
>Frodo is about to toss thing into lava but the Ring is finally able to overpower him
>Gollum shows up and both struggle for the Ring
>Frodo saves the day by pushing Gollum, Ring and all off the cliff into lava
>'...bUh mUh sEm gEmGuh wuZ dA rEeL hEro 'cUz sTabbed cOupL oRcS aNd cArRuHd FRuDuh nEeR tHee Enn"

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>>22225044

>> No.22228012

>>22227999
Frodo isn't written as a particularly sympathetic character. Often he comes across as a whiny faggot, and sometimes as a condescending prick.
Sam is a character who literally does nothing wrong from start to finish.

>> No.22228015

it was intuitively obvious to me ever since i was young, but i would also not be so quick to mitigate frodo's role as a hero. frodo and sam required eachother in order to fulfill their mission and they would not have made it without eachother. the central Christ-like aspects of the two characters are frodo's sacrifice and sam's humility

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>>22228012
see
>>22228015

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22229346

>>22225147 Absolutely BTFO'ed by >>22225154. How will he ever recover from this anal gaping? A gape so great that he can fit a vehicle barrier in his ass with ease.

>> No.22229365

>>22225041
If everyone were like Sam, Sauron would've won.

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>>22225044

>> No.22230920

>>22225154
>>22229346
>The Hobbit, or There and Back Again is a children's fantasy novel by English author J. R. R. Tolkien. It was published in 1937

>> No.22230956

>>22230920
anon's >>22225147 point still stand

>> No.22231016

>>22230920
>>22230956
Have you read it? The Hobbit is a simple children's book where a shorty and his pals kill a dragon. As basic as you can get. It has nothing to do with Gormenghast and shows little of what made LOTR famous (other than hobbits). Point doesn't stand at all.

>> No.22231706

>>22225639
Yeah the official kinda fucking sucks

>> No.22231736

>>22225140
>Gormenghast
Dull compared with LOTR, especially the 3rd book.

>> No.22231741

>>22225041
Gollum was the real hero. If he hadn't stood up to Frodo and tried to get the ring away from him, the quest would have failed.

>> No.22231833

>>22225050
I don't believe you have four (4) friends