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[Anonymous No.22221605]

stoicism sounded really cool until i found out marcus aurelius' wife cheated on him with multiple people, kinda ruined it for me

[Anonymous No.22221607]

Epictetus is the main stoicism guy. Marcus doesn't even deserve to clean his sandals.

[Anonymous No.22221612]

>>22221605
Look up what Herodes Atticus did to his wife.

[Anonymous No.22221620]

>>22221605
What did you want Marcus to do? seethe and mope about it?

[Anonymous No.22221629]

>>22221620
have her killed. he was the emperor.

[Anonymous No.22221632]

>>22221605
Is that a man?

[Anonymous No.22221634]

>>22221607
Yeah spoken like a true stoic with your idolatry

[Anonymous No.22221729]

>>22221632
probably, looks like one

[Anonymous No.22221732]

What is it with breadtube and turning everything into a limp-wristed gay circus show?

[Anonymous No.22221747]

>>22221605
My faith of stoicism restored when I heard what Seneca did on his citizens

[Anonymous No.22221748]

>>22221732
They're american.

[Anonymous No.22221750]

>>22221605
We should send trannies to the bottom of the ocean

[Anonymous No.22221791]

>>22221605
Seems a bit daft to abandon a philosophy because of what someone's wife, and not the guy himself, may or may not of done 2000 years ago, that is the reaction of a child.
>>22221629
That is what a Tyrant like Nero would've done, he wasn't one, not all the roman emperors were murderous dictators, Antoninus was supposedly a fair leader too. The whole point of stoicism is living with virtue and pretty much disregarding things external to the will, and realizing people will do bad things through ignorance. If he killed his wife, he wouldn't be living according to nature in the Stoic sense.
>>22221612
He was acquitted due to insufficient evidence, we don't know if he did it or not, it was over 2000 years ago.
>>22221634
He is right really, Epictetus was massive in that period, his teacher Musonius Rufus was considered also considered the roman Socrates. Marcus was just a practitioner.
>>22221747
From what i have heard Seneca may not have been highly regarded by the other Stoics because of his association with Nero, none of the others seem to mention him, he was viewed more as a politician and businessman, and even now many view him as a hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.22221805]

>>22221605
Influential Roman women(and men) were often slandered and had accusations against them just like people are now, you shouldn't listen to slander and hearsay, ancient or modern. It is what ignorant people do.

[Anonymous No.22221826]

>>22221605
Marcus Aurelius is one of the most overrated Roman emperors in existence. The only reason he has a legacy is because of Meditations. Imagine if we had the diary of Augustus or Trajan; he would be quickly discarded.

[Anonymous No.22221835]

>>22221629
Based and Muad'dib-pilled

[Anonymous No.22221847]

>>22221629
so? the entire point of stoicism is not giving a shit about these things. so he was put to a real test to see if his philosophy was for real or if he was just larping and he passed. can't even argue that he was just coping because he was the fucking emperor and could have had her killed with no consequences at all. you will never reach this level of integrity and you think everyone else is like you.

[Anonymous No.22221855]

>>22221605
Seriously, this book should be read as an "example" for what you could be writing about in your OWN meditations. This is why I deeply dislike this whole stoicism crap, in the end, people are better off reading a philosophy textbook than any book related to it. If after that, you still feel like you want to know more about it, great, go for it. But I seriously don't understand why people don't bother getting fucking textbooks, they are fucking great nowadays.

[Anonymous No.22221874]

Meditations was never even meant to be read, it was his person journal and wasn't even called that at first, but ''to himself''. It was never meant for publication. It's not the be all end all of stoic texts, it's not even a good start if you want to get into it.
>>22221847
It takes a much stronger person mentally to forgive and forget then to fly into a murderous rage and kill or harm people who wrong you, that is a action of people who are not only slaves to what others say or do, but also slaves to their emotions, it is actually weakness disguised as strength.

[Anonymous No.22221876]

So I'm a really weak-willed person. I can't resist temptations at all. I always take the road less traveled and i am easily intimidated. Apart from touching grass and facing the real world, should i study stoicism?

[Anonymous No.22221881]

>>22221876
Psychology is way better imo. Seriously, get a textbook. You are going after some ancient shit vs the best science can offer.

[Anonymous No.22221883]

>>22221876
It isn't the worst thing you can do so why not.

[Anonymous No.22221889]

>>22221881
>some ancient shit vs the best science can offer
I'll take some ancient shit anytime

[Anonymous No.22221893]

>>22221889
Might as well try some magic, sorcery and witchcraft.

[Anonymous No.22221897]

>>22221791
>That is what a Tyrant like Nero would've done, he wasn't one, not all the roman emperors were murderous dictators, Antoninus was supposedly a fair leader too. The whole point of stoicism is living with virtue and pretty much disregarding things external to the will, and realizing people will do bad things through ignorance. If he killed his wife, he wouldn't be living according to nature in the Stoic sense.
Killing adulterers is virtuous, every worthwhile society has said so

[Anonymous No.22221902]

>>22221876
study the barbell

[Anonymous No.22221906]

>>22221893
Is that what turned you into such a faggot?

[Anonymous No.22221907]

Not very stoic to cut your dick and balls off because you're a pervert.

[Anonymous No.22221909]

>>22221906
Uh no, but that is the kind of shit that the stoics used to believe.

[Anonymous No.22221915]

>bro this is what being a men is all about
>believing in ancient fairy tales
>pragmatism makes you gay
Anons are literally either women or children.

[Anonymous No.22221922]

>>22221907
kek

[Anonymous No.22221923]

>>22221897
>Killing adulterers is virtuous, every worthwhile society has said so
It's what every barbaric society did, do you not realize if you did such a thing that it would make you worse than the person who did the adultery as it would make you a murderer? What you are recommending is inhumane, not virtuous. Read Epictetus discourses 1.18, you are suggesting killing someone for being morally blind and acting from ignorance, both of these things can be rectified and people can change as a result.

[Anonymous No.22221928]

>>22221923
>No consequences for actions
This is not based, stoicbros...

[Anonymous No.22221955]

>>22221928
There is consequences, said person becomes untrustworthy and becomes known as a adulterer/thief/thug or whatever as a result and many times are punished in a court of law for their actions depending on the severity of their crimes, but to say they should be killed is itself barbaric and makes you no better then them. Most people, if shown the error of their ways, can and do change and become better people, by killing them you deny them that chance.

[Anonymous No.22221956]

>>22221632
>>22221729
Yes, "she" is a well know YouTuber tranny.

[Anonymous No.22221970]

>>22221876
Get regular exercise and read Existential Psychotherapy by Irvin Yalom.

[Anonymous No.22221983]

>>22221876
Can't say it would hurt you, it is hard work though so be prepared to put the effort in.
>>22221909
People in general believed that stuff 2000 years ago, doesn't mean you have to, you can just adopt the ethical side of it. Science is not a cure for every single thing.

[Anonymous No.22221987]

>>22221605
Stoicism is a chud meme

[Anonymous No.22221989]

>>22221748
*anglo

[Anonymous No.22221990]

>>22221983
It is not, but what about trying le science, before going for le ancient crap? That is called being practical.

[Anonymous No.22222003]

>>22221990
I don't know, some don't find science as interesting? science can be very dry and boring imo, why does it matter to you the approach someone takes in trying to be a better person anyway.

[Anonymous No.22222013]

>>22221605
I unironically can’t get aroused by her because of her huge man-jaw. I worry that she’s going to chomp down on my dick.

[Anonymous No.22222019]

>>22222013
>she

[Anonymous No.22222026]

>>22222003
Maybe because Christianity got most out of it? And considering that he lives in the western hemisphere of the globe, there is a decent chance that this is what he was taught at home? So in some sense, he already tried it? And it would be a good idea to try something else?

[Anonymous No.22222030]

>>22222013
>the man-jaw is connected to the ... man-face.
>the man-face is connected to the ... man.

[Anonymous No.22222039]

>>22222026
How do you know he studied Christianity in any depth as being religious is becoming less and less common and if if he or she did then reading Stoic texts would refresh them seeing as Christian teachings were influenced by Stoicism.

Either way is valid at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.22222042]

>>22221990
Primary sources ?

[Anonymous No.22222052]

Some ancient texts are still being read, because they still have some value about learning about how human nature works and how to be a more moral person, you can still get some value out of the bible even if you don't necessarily believe in some Abrahamic god, base human nature hasn't actually changed much if at all.

[Anonymous No.22222054]

>>22222042
Get an actual clinical psychologist or a textbook on some stupid therapy, I recommend cognitive beharioral.
>>22222039
>haven't watched the OP's video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSvKNNtkUSU
>actual philosopher
>went after a psychologist first
>literally the serenity prayer AKA "It is in God's hands"
This is something that I used to hear literally everyday. I don't know, do you really need some of those things?

[Anonymous No.22222059]

>>22222054
>Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Look at this. I'm serious, and I'm not even religious. I'm not saying that stoicism is shit, but you already have it if you had a Christian education.

[Anonymous No.22222066]

>>22221605
Man believe woman
Ancestor cry
I am vomit

[Anonymous No.22222070]

>>22222054
>haven't watched the OP's video
Never said i did, can't be arsed to watch a video when i have the books on my shelf already
>This is something that I used to hear literally everyday. I don't know, do you really need some of those things?
Not sure what you mean, please explain

[Anonymous No.22222071]

>>22222013
>she

Oh, bro, you're so naive.

[Anonymous No.22222073]

>"It is in God's hands"
"It is in God's hands"

[Anonymous No.22222081]

>>22222059
Stoicism, at least that of Epictetus, says it in a more practical way, so it is worth reading.

[Anonymous No.22222090]

>>22222081
Also, there is this too, which is what I really dislike about both stoicism and Christianity is that in the end they are ways to cope and help you get going with your shit. They won't help you really change something, as in getting to reasons behind things, maybe uncovering some trauma, finding a way to "fix it" and moving on. This is the realm of psychology. It won't turn a slave into a emperor, you will just end up being a happy slave.

[Anonymous No.22222112]

Fuck it, it is what it is.
.t marky mark

[Anonymous No.22222114]

>>22222090
I agree, but if it helps then i think it is worth doing, i don't think anyone would say it is a cure for deep seated mental issues, that is the job of a professional to help fix.
>you will just end up being a happy slave
Well it's better to be a happy slave then a unhappy one isn't it? and Stoic philosophy doesn't claim to be able to change anything outside of the will. In a way we are all slaves to our desires.

[Anonymous No.22222145]

>>22222114
Maybe, this is where is can get pretty fucking nasty. If you are raising your child like that, you have to be happy with whatever that you got. If they end up having some trouble and can't be anything but a "slave", you can't keep pushing them to be an emperor and expect that some miracle will happen down the line.

[Anonymous No.22222171]

>>22222145
That is also my second main problem with it, it is a pretty simplistic world view, it doesn't work with considering an other person experience. You will end up always projecting your own experience into theirs. And the reason why I really like Kierkegaard and somewhat despise most Christian stuff.

[Anonymous No.22222249]

>>22222145
The mass majority of the things in this world are out of our control, that is the simple fact of life. If you try change it you will never be happy and always anxious, i know, i was that person once.

[Anonymous No.22222265]

>>22222249
I changed a lot of things, it led me from living a nightmare to being quite ok with things. Resignation isn't always the best answer to everything. The thing is that with this kind of thinking, you won't go after thing that you can maybe mess around.
Look at you, you will default to doing the same thing over and over, almost never trying anything new that could potentially change your life and so on.

[Anonymous No.22222267]

>>22221791
>That is what a Tyrant would've done
>If he killed his wife, he wouldn't be living according to nature in the Stoic sense
wow no wonder libertarians like stoicism
so what you are saying is, the stoics are for bootlickers?

[Anonymous No.22222282]

>>22221732
Stoicism was always a limp-wristed gay circus

[Anonymous No.22222284]

>>22221605
> marcus aurelius' wife cheated on him with multiple people
>Roman orgy
The Greek civ is the most based civ on Earth, and the Franks too maybe.

[Anonymous No.22222287]

>>22221605
Stoicism was invented by slaves and is latched on to by people who have totally given up on the idea that they can regulate their emotions in a healthy way to the point that total repression seems like a good idea

[Anonymous No.22222294]

>>22222267
Fully convinced modern Stoicism (and also "Mindfulness") is purposefully pushed on wagies so they don't go insane from their hellish existence and murder people. Investor bros like it too because it lets them ignore the fact that they're being milked dry by scam artists luring them with dreams of being Warren Buffett.
The only healthy Stoic ever was George Washington.

[Anonymous No.22222306]

>>22222267
Killing someone for fulfilling their basic human desires is the mark of a beast, telling them what they did wrong and trying to change them is a sign of more enlightened human being. You don't wrong wrongs by becoming an animal yourself.

[Anonymous No.22222310]

>>22221605
> stoicism sounded really cool until
Recommend me books that explain the fundamentals of Stoicism, please.
Is the part of Zeno’s biography in the book about Hellenistic philosophers by Diogenes enough to understand the fundamentals of his philosophy?

[Anonymous No.22222315]

>>22222287
Stoicism isn't about repressing emotions, it's about reacting to them in a healthier manner. Furthermore we are slaves in one way or another, be it money, status, our bodies, women or other people.

[Anonymous No.22222324]

>a woman that know a lot of philosophy
>It's actually a tranny (a man that thinks he's a woman)

Kek, big L for women.

[Anonymous No.22222326]

>>22222310
How to be a stoic massimo pigliucci
How to think like a roman emperor
The discourses and enchiridion of Epictetus(oxford classics)

[Anonymous No.22222332]

>>22222326
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.22222333]

>>22222315
>Stoicism isn't about repressing emotions, it's about reacting to them in a healthier manner.

That's what people always say, but when I probe further and ask what this looks like it always amounts to simply trying to repress anger or anxiety or sadness. I think stoicism is so popular because no one realizes how emotions work and stoicism is quite seductive in that it alleges you can you just become a stoic and choose to control your emotions when there are typically a lot of steps you have to take to truly achieve healthy regulation if you have anger and anxiety issues.

[Anonymous No.22222373]

>>22222333
It's not letting an impression make you do something you will later regret, say someone randomly loudly insults me on the street, i could immediately assent to the impression, go up to him and smack him in the face and subsequently be arrested and have a criminal record as a result over a mere word just to protect my ego, or i could think, wait a minute, this person is acting out of ignorance and doesn't know abusing people on the street is wrong, should i get angry to protect my own ego, potentially ruining my own life in the process or should i pity him instead and just ignore him and walk away, not ruining my own life in the process but he will make himself look like a idiot. Will i feel angry? of course, no amount of philosophy can get rid of emotions, but i didn't let it rule me, that is the difference between a Stoic and ordinary person. People mistake modern stiff upper lip stoicism which is emotional repression for ancient capital letter Stoicism.

[Anonymous No.22222378]

>>22221826
It's especially worth noting that his "based stoicism" lead to him not bothering to adopt a decent ruler as his son as everyone had done before since "things are how they are and can't be changed", giving us one of the most infamously bad emperors Rome ever had.

[Anonymous No.22222414]

>>22222378
Not having his son as heir would've let to even more bloodshed through civil war, and the only reason the other emperors didn't have their biological sons as heirs is because they didn't have any, it's unfair to blame a philosophy for this.

[Anonymous No.22222433]

>>22222414
Also some people just turn out bad even if they had good parents, perhaps through other outside experiences and experiences who knows. It's also necessary to remember Marcus spent the mass majority of his reign fighting the Germanic tribes on the northern frontier, he probably didn't even have much time to be with his son and teach him properly. If someone is so close to absolute power and wealth like his son was without proper teaching there is no wonder he turned out like he did IMO.

[Anonymous No.22222447]

>>22221732
Leftism is dysgenic

[Anonymous No.22222451]

>>22221605
Why are these videos always some weird freak show that look like they're ripped straight out of one of the Terrifier movies?

[Anonymous No.22222460]

>>22221605
(You) are an insecure retard basedboy.
>X's dog ran away from him. So all his work is irrelevant and has no value.

[Anonymous No.22222463]

>>22222451
There is einzelganger, daily stoic, and some other philosophy channels what have err...more conventional people.

[Anonymous No.22222475]

>>22221847
You don't see the most important thing. For him sex was like a cup of coffee for you. The marriage for an emperor was not a way to acquire pussy, but to get more wealth and influence.Would you kill your wife for drinking coffee?

[Anonymous No.22222490]

Seneca's letter 78 has been pretty helpful for me. Other than him living a lavish life, why does he have a bad rep?

[Anonymous No.22222497]

>>22222222

[Anonymous No.22222509]

>>22221605
>cheating wife
That's the ultimate test for a stoic

[Anonymous No.22222521]

>>22222475
Correct
>>22222267
>the stoics are for bootlickers
This isn't true either, some Stoic philosophers got executed or exiled for speaking out against the emperors of the time, and they knew this would happen to them if they did so, yet they still did it.

[Anonymous No.22222522]

>>22222509
Assuming you go the "don't give a shit" way, would a stoic cut all ties with her or turn it into a marriage of convenience and become a cuck (have her cook for you and do your laundry and she gets to fuck whoever)?

[Anonymous No.22222537]

>>22222490
>Other than him living a lavish life
Stoics are not forbidden from having wealth, they just shouldn't be attached to it. It's the cynics like Diogenes who disregard all material wealth, wealth is a preferred indifference to the Stoics.

[Anonymous No.22222564]

>>22222522
It's preferable to have a wife then not have one, but either way you can live without one. A Stoic places value on what is his(His will, soul and his desires and aversions) and nothing external from these things, including his body, wife, reputation and status etc.

[Anonymous No.22222592]

>>22222564
>than not have one
Exactly. As a stoic, you're also not supposed to make matters worse for yourself so logic would dictate it's better to come to an arrangement with her where she fulfills her wifely duties towards you and in exchange she gets to be a whore.

Now here's the issue, most normal men would not be able to come to terms with being a cuck. One of those things where we're kind of hardwired to lash out and act (ir)rationally. What do?

[Anonymous No.22222633]

>>22221881
Psychology isn't science, it's Jewish schlock.

[Anonymous No.22222647]

>>22222592
>One of those things where we're kind of hardwired to lash out and act (ir)rationally. What do?
Stop caring about your reputation and what others think of you, that's all. People i know have been slandered and accused of much worse things than being a cuckold yet still go around with a smile on their face. Ignorant people are going to to bad things like slander and gossip about others, to expect otherwise is insanity, it's more about their character then anyone else's.

[Anonymous No.22222650]

>>22222647
>it's more
it says more*

[Anonymous No.22222721]

How have people here not even heard of PhilosophyTube?
Im scared to check if hbomberguy is a troon now, I’m thinking at least a faggot though…

[Anonymous No.22222724]

>>22222721
Does that fucking matter? It is not like I was planning on having a daughter and that I would love her to marry that dude.

[Anonymous No.22222740]

>>22222721
All I know about this guy is he's a tranny (pedophile-autogynephile)

[Anonymous No.22222748]

Philosophers should not be interested in anything as pathetic as the flesh, which is constantly decaying and needs constant nourishment. Death even should be no more than a essential part of nature to someone who calls themselves a Philosopher.

[Anonymous No.22222800]

>>22222721
It's quite interesting really, many ancient Stoic philosophers such as Musonius Rufus say men should grow there beards out as we were given them by nature to distinguish us as men separate from women and that it is unnatrual as men to make ourselves effeminate, i'm sure that part is left out in some circles.

[Anonymous No.22222821]

>>22221605
god damn "bread tube" was so cringe. is hassan that turkroach one a troon yet?

[Anonymous No.22222857]

>>22222522
Depending on the intent of the woman when cheating on him. If the intent is revenge, the woman hates him and there's no use remaining together. If it's mere boredom and lust, a deal could be arranged.

[Anonymous No.22222925]

>>22222721
Men have always been the best philosophers

[Anonymous No.22222950]

>>22221605
I know people say this about everything female looking on the internet but read me out: this is 100 a tranny

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » [FlaVR] No.22222962]

>>22221605
>until i found out marcus aurelius' wife cheated on him with multiple people
>and stoicism actually worked and he didn’t give a crap because the children were all that mattered.

[Anonymous No.22223077]

>>22221955
Yeah great. How's that working out? So far it has a 100% track record of destroying society.

[Anonymous No.22223157]

The only good works related to stoicism is when pompous spoiled brats who adapted it have something bad happen to them for the first time in their lives and turn their backs on the whole philosophy

see : kochanowski and Hamann

[Anonymous No.22223160]

>>22223157
how great is a philosophy school that makes a slave be happy with being a slave
seriously, as in not even joking
the dude never ever bothered starting a rebellion
it is uber trash

[Anonymous No.22223164]

>>22222962
>And his son was a worthless monster

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » [FlaVR] No.22223422]

>>22223164
All of Roman statehood was a monster. All of the British state right down to this shill in the OP are monsters

[Anonymous No.22223510]

>22222222

[Anonymous No.22223514]

>>22223510
>>22222222
LOL im retarded
sry for wasting replies op but you shouldntve posted a tranny and retorted that brainlet modern leftist take on history

[Anonymous No.22224121]

>>22222721
>How have people here not even heard of PhilosophyTube?
why would you listen to a single opinion a tr@nnygender monster has? kys bro that stupid youtuber guy has literally zero lit value

[Anonymous No.22224226]

>>22221605
I wonder if, when he no longer looks passable (in his own mind,) when his skin begins to sag and the male skeletal form becomes more and more apparent, he'll see what a terrible error he's made, what a waste of time, energy, and money it's been to masquerade as something he can never be while becoming the worst possible version of what he is.
I feel no hatred for these people. I don't wish them death, and I believe they have the right to treat their body as they desire, but the overwhelming, undeniable fact is that they've been psyop'd into castrating themselves for nothing. I genuinely feel sorry for them and I hope they realize it sooner rather than later while there's still something left to salvage. Unfortunately it'll never happen. These types cocoon themselves into discord channels upon discord channels of sycophants, enablers, and glowies, all of whom have a vested interest interest in them retaining their completely inviable "transformation."
It's genuinely sad.

[Anonymous No.22224240]

>>22224226
it's definitely going to be interesting to see what happens to all these people when they're like fifty.

[Anonymous No.22224262]

Holy shit this troon is completely skinwalking contrapoints style to a t.

[Anonymous No.22224267]

>>22224226
I agree on his end point, yet he unironically became better articulate, more convincing and so interesting to watch after he transitioned. so weird i know. him and ContraPoints as well, although this last has always been a tranny from the get go as much as i'm concerned. their rich content makes me suspend my disbelief about them and just delve into their discourse, despite their very sad condition indeed.

[Anonymous No.22224291]

>>22224240
>>22224240
Truly. At that stage what is there really to do? You're past the point of being attractive or even feigning to be so. It's when the human form begins to look just slightly ghoulish.
People like OP's pic preen excessively to maintain 4/10 attractiveness (if we're being generous) when compared to the females they emulate. Any sort of slippage of physicality is ruination.
I see two possibilities:
1. There will be a mass wave of regret, suicide, and detransition which will conveniently align with a new paradigm shift in which people caught up in the trans trend are seen as victims of early algorithmic manipulation.
2. (More likely.) There will be an increasingly complex scaffolding of rules, artificially induced social norms, and possibly even laws to protect and contain them from breaking from their programming, their share of the population increases, and the aged, sagging tranny becomes a sex icon forced upon the population en masse.

>>22224267
Personally I never found either particularly interesting or insightful. Just my opinion.

[Anonymous No.22224304]

>>22224226
PhallusTube had a "by mid for mids" channel similar to Waldun's so he hung out with ContraBiology and copied that guy's "her dick" schtick to engorge his view count. I'm surprised he hasn't produced any "transtrender" infighting yet (correct me if I'm wrong because the attention I've paid is as superficial as a troon's idea of biological sex).

[Anonymous No.22224305]

>>22221791
I dunno maybe tyrants have the right idea. Anyways women shouldn’t have sexual autonomy whatsoever. So many men are destitute because of the fact they aren’t.

[Anonymous No.22224312]

>>22221983
I do because science is fake

[Anonymous No.22224317]

>>22222721
Men who transition should be immediately killed. They are making a choice, similar to how gay men choose to fuck children.

[Anonymous No.22224326]

>>22222287
Seriously. I like to think of stoicism as just cucked taoism, and or taoism but for miserable losers.

[Anonymous No.22224331]

>>22222821
No, but he's a closet gay sub

>I sometimes see very masculine muscle bear types wearing a chain necklace with a locked padlock. I've even seen a few couples who both have them on. Can someone give me background on this? Is it more of a BDSM thing, or just a masculine ownership thing?
>it is definitely a BDSM thing, I lived with a guy at uni for a year who wore a chain with a padlock on and his 'master' (who lived about 100 miles away) had the only key. Nobody at uni seemed to be too bothered by him wearing this big chain
https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/wkuxxc/those_chains_with_padlock_that_subs_wear_around/

[Anonymous No.22224334]

>philosophy thread
>derails into trannies and BDSM faggotry
When are we beheading /pol/tards from /lit/?

[Anonymous No.22224339]

>>22224334
This was never a philosophy thread. It began as a thread about a tranny who regurgitates philosophy wikipedia articles.

[Anonymous No.22224343]

>>22224334
>posts midwit YouTrooner who trooned out for view count
>WHY AREN'T WE DISCUSSING PHILOSOPHY!
>THIS IS ALL /POL/'s FAULT!
Garbage OP. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.22224348]

>>22224339
>>22224343
>can't read
We will make some kind of test to check this out. I would start studying, if I were you.

[Anonymous No.22224351]

>>22224348
Study these nuts.

[Anonymous No.22224361]

>>22224348
>OP is a tranny midwit
>WHY ARE YOU MAKING FUN OF TRANNIES AND YOUTUBERS
>[unsolicited violent fantasy towards /pol/]
>I'm totally not trans btw
Retard.

[Anonymous No.22224365]

>>22224351
We can cut them off too. Then you can be a tranny yourself. And maybe stop being such a whiny bitch about it.

[Anonymous No.22224368]

>>22224361
>uh le tranny
>I'm so triggered I can't even talk about some brainlet philosophical school
... get over it, retard.

[Anonymous No.22224371]

>>22224365
That's the best you could do with the set up he gave you? You're as hopeless as gender affirmation vs. a mirror.

[Anonymous No.22224376]

>>22224368
>goes into rage fantasies and evokes the ghost of /pol/ because anons are making fun of YouTuber tranny
>YOU'RE TRIGGERED
No you.

[Anonymous No.22224379]

>>22224371
Get over it, brainlet. Jesus fucking Christ, it is a fucking thread about FUCKING STOICISM, literally le philosophical school for retarded children, and we can't talk about it, because retards keep talking about trannies and faggots.

[Anonymous No.22224381]

>>22224376
/lgbt/ is that way, get the hell out of here, this is /lit/, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.22224403]

>>22224379
>>22224381
>NO YOU NO YOU NO YOU
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>NO YOU NO YOU NO YOU
Go face your demons: look in a mirror or click >>>/pol/.

[Anonymous No.22224407]

>>22224403
>derails thread into "le tranny"
I should be the one going to /pol/, sure.

[Anonymous No.22224411]

>>22224379
you dont seem very stoic about this situation

[Anonymous No.22224413]

Whatever, this thread is dead anyway, there is nothing remotely interesting, fuck this shit. You can have it. Jannies are trannies btw.

[Anonymous No.22224418]

>>22224411
>can't read
Yes, I'm not, I'm not a retard. I won't take bullshit like this and stay quiet. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.22224424]

>>22224418
lol

[Anonymous No.22224426]

Become a cynic.
Bark at wagies.

[Anonymous No.22224433]

>>22221923
>both of these things can be rectified and people can change as a result.
So? Who cares if someone can change. If you did something wrong that is unforgivable there is no need nor reason to give them a chance at redemption. At that point you are just asking for it to happen again. Better to just kill the adulterer and be done with it.
>would make you a murderer? What you are recommending is inhumane
Who would've guessed the stoic uses his ''philosophy'' to just be a pussy.

[Anonymous No.22224436]

>>22224407
>can't read
Choose your own adventure: >>>/pol/ or look in a mirror.

[Anonymous No.22224445]

>>22224418
You seem unstable.

[Anonymous No.22224453]

I'm fine, it is just that I'm not going to plebbit with you guys so that you can control what I can and what I can't say. And yet, you feel like ruining the experience for other people to be free.
Leftards and religitards are basically the same shit.

[Anonymous No.22224455]

>>22224418
>this is the guy who tells anon to touch grass

[Anonymous No.22224464]

>>22224455
I live on a farm, I touch grass everyday. I even piss on it everyday.

[Anonymous No.22224472]

>>22224464
Based. I actually live similarly and love pissing off my porch everyday. You're alright anon.

[Anonymous No.22224475]

>>22221605
Why are white leftists either girls still in highschool and first year uni or they're just literal fags?

[Anonymous No.22224480]

>slanders and attacks Evola
>comes out as a tranny less than a year later
Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.22224488]

Not to answer the question 147 posts in, but: Marcus Aurelius had his wife fuck the gladiator so that he could murder said gladiator while they were engaged in said fucking and then insert himself into her, thereby demonstrating his superiority. So, in a bizarre way, Aurelius was actually the one doing the cucking.

[Anonymous No.22224490]

>>22224464
>I even piss on it everyday.
Fuck you fashist

[Anonymous No.22224495]

>>22224488
nigga that's gay af

[Anonymous No.22224503]

>>22224418
Imagine a tranny thread being the digital location where you lost your mind. Not a video of some brutal beheading, not a deepweb site that reveals to you some godawful truth about humanity. A basic tranny thread.
Truly shameful.

[Anonymous No.22224509]

>>22224472
Yes, I like it too. There is nothing like pissing while looking at the beautiful clear sky.

[Anonymous No.22224517]

>>22224503
>leftist playing to be fucking retarded
I'm not a stoic, Jesus fucking Christ
Read the fucking thing: >>22224379. I'm not a stoic.

[Anonymous No.22224524]

>>22224517
>>22221855
I made this post, that no one fucking said a fucking thing about it. Fuck you and fuck trannies, and fuck jannies, and fuck leftards, and fuck religitards,.

[Anonymous No.22224544]

>>22224517
Read these nuts.

[Anonymous No.22224550]

>>22224544
>plebbit joke
Happy 4th of July.

[Anonymous No.22224553]

Religitards and leftards deserve each other. Not even joking.

[Anonymous No.22224564]

>>22221605
there's some alphabet agency psyop going on
we also have a breadtuber tranny in my country that does book reviews

[Anonymous No.22224572]

>>22224564
>alphabet agency
It is how it is, those LGBTQIAQASDASD types will "help each other", so they will go out of their way to shill their friends and so on.

[Anonymous No.22224574]

>>22221612
okay but what had she done to his honor?

[Anonymous No.22224714]

>>22222857
Based.

[Anonymous No.22224750]

>>22224550
plebbit around with these nuts.

[Anonymous No.22224851]

>>22224750
I have some fun observing people acting like monkeys. In some sense is the reason why I still bother interacting with people instead of just going after ChatGPT.

[Anonymous No.22224875]

>>22221632
>>22221956
Philosophy Tube raped Contrapoints. I'm not even kidding, look it up.

[Anonymous No.22224939]

>>22224851
Observe these nuts.

[Anonymous No.22224945]

>>22222306
Are you going to go full Justin Trudeau and say "if you kill your enemies, they win"
an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth

[Anonymous No.22224956]

>>22221847
>>22222475
>Who cares how many cups of coffee my wife drank?

[Anonymous No.22225248]

>>22224875
>Philosophy Tube raped Contrapoints
what? story here? seeing some rumors but nothing substantial

[Anonymous No.22225258]

>>22225248
>>22224875
found this schizocollage about it. if this is real holy shit

[Anonymous No.22225289]

>>22222463
Einzelganger needs more Nietzsche in his life. If his life is a reflection of his videos, I assume it must be dull.

[Anonymous No.22225305]

>>22221632
Yes, that's a man and he's funded by the UK government to push their agenda. Philosophy Tube is funded by the Royal Institution whose top donor is King Charles. It's strange that when these "influencers" start to receive state funding, directly or indirectly, they go tranny.

[Anonymous No.22225315]

>>22221605
i get really disturbed at the "trannies on philosophy/politics" genre and the fact they get a ton of views, the average person is a cattle brained piece of shit and you can kill them without remorse

[Anonymous No.22225356]

>>22225315
>the average person is a cattle brained piece of shit and you can kill them without remorse

[Anonymous No.22225362]

>>22221855
>But I seriously don't understand why people don't bother getting fucking textbooks, they are fucking great nowadays
Stoicism is for living, not reading. The kind of people who need text books almost never put them into practice, just want some credit for reading an adult book.

And meditations is one guys thoughts.

[Anonymous No.22225376]

>>22221605
Reminder that Philosophy Tube is literally a Royal Institute asset who was used to astroturf pro-lockdown sentiment before the UK lockdown was enforced.

[Anonymous No.22225380]

>>22221855
>Stop arguing about what a good man should be. Be one.

[Anonymous No.22225383]

>>22225258
I want to rent a 737 and ship everyone involved in this to Afghanistan.

[Anonymous No.22225388]

>>22225380
Be what?

[Anonymous No.22225462]

>>22225315
Idc about trannies, but the entire "summarize an entire topic in a fifteen minute video" genre annoys me. I have a friend who claims to be an admirer of Camus and Sartre, but I know that he's never actually read a single work by either of them. He just watched a few videos on them instead.

[Anonymous No.22225728]

>>22224488
It was written in the historia augusta, so it cannot be taken as fact, especially when it's a book known to warp the truth. You don't believe every single piece of gossip you hear, do you?
>>22224426
Based

[Anonymous No.22225736]

>>22224379
Ordinary people love gossip and talking about others anon, it comes from ignorance. It was better when there was a proper discussion but there isn't anything you can do apart from ignore it.

[Anonymous No.22225738]

>>22225388
A good man

[Anonymous No.22225766]

>>22221605
So he's a victim of narcissitic abuse and it explains the reason behind his transition. becoming a more powerful woman than the ex-gf that abused him. Understandable, NPD & BPD abuse are no joke.

[Anonymous No.22225785]

>>22225388
Be nis

[Anonymous No.22225928]

>>22224945
The problem with that shit is that while it makes a lot of sense for a simpleton, it starts a never ending cycle. It works wonders for monkeys that can't really think ahead of time.

[Anonymous No.22225940]

An eye for an eye makes the world blind.

[Anonymous No.22225954]

>>22225940
Not really, but you have to be ok with the idea of mass murder and genocide.

[Anonymous No.22225964]

>>22225940
An eye for an eye leaves everyone except the most powerful tribe blind.

[Anonymous No.22225981]

>>22225954
Most reasonable and well intentioned people are not ok with this anon.
>>22225964
It will make the most powerful tribe blind too, because they will lose most valuable capacity, the moral capacity to tell good from bad.

[Anonymous No.22225989]

>>22225981
>the moral capacity to tell good from bad
Ah yes, it will lose a retarded belief in manichean fairytale nonsense. Truly blinding.

[Anonymous No.22225990]

>>22225981
I don't like that either.

[Anonymous No.22226112]

>>22221955
I think female adultery is entirely worthy of death, but since you only have one life I think society should just enslave you instead.

[Anonymous No.22226120]

>>22225928
>The problem with that shit is it starts a never ending cycle
Not if you kill them all
also up until the modern era, war was great for technological advancement, and a way to keep population numbers in check

[Anonymous No.22226128]

>>22226120
Yes, but even then it doesn't work exactly like that, because consider that you engage in such a thing. Then what? Do you think that other people will trust you? They will unite themselves to kill you.

[Anonymous No.22226145]

>>22222721
>you mean /lit/ doesn't waste its time watching high-school-tier summaries of books instead of actually reading said books?

[Anonymous No.22226146]

>>22226128
Of course, just like everyone united against the US after they bombed all those countries...

[Anonymous No.22226155]

>>22226146
>everyone united against the US
Not really, the problem is that there are multiple countries somewhat capable of that. So yeah, more like all countries blowing up multiple times.

[Anonymous No.22226158]

>>22226120
Edgy

[Anonymous No.22226159]

>>22226155
>the problem is that there are multiple countries somewhat capable of that
See, there's not much to worry about. Also Hitler killing all those Jews was not what made the Allies go to war with him. There's not a single piece of wartime or pre-war propaganda even mentioning the Holocaust.

[Anonymous No.22226372]

>>22226159
I don't know, but currently we are in a stage where we are making sure that >>22226155 doesn't turn into all countries being capable of blowing up all other countries. Governments aren't exactly cool things.

[Anonymous No.22226458]

>>22226120
>>22226112

[Anonymous No.22226594]

>>22226128
>They will unite themselves to kill you.
Unless you are the big kid on the block they won't, look at what happened when Rome killed off all of Carthage, it wasn't till much later that the empire fell
although I will admit not having a worthy enemy was a big reason for Rome decline much like the USA's post cold war
>>22226158
>Edgy
yes many people pre-modern era had "edgy ideas on how to handle rivals, just look up the Mongols, they where some real edgy boys
>>22226458
I'm not saying being cruel, I agree with Machiavelli when he said "the only good wars are quick ones"
but one must understand that some population (cough cough germans) just can't help themselves but destroy and degrade civilization, and as such like a dog that bites his master, must be put down

[Anonymous No.22226753]

>>22226594
>not having a worthy enemy
It was more like it fell over its own weight. The US is somewhat fine, it transitioned to other things, but it is not like you couldn't "go back" and "make it great again", in the sense of bringing back factories and shit and get immigrants to work on that. But it wouldn't make any sense.

[Anonymous No.22227200]

>>22221605
>I don't like doctors because they get sick
A thread died for this!

[Anonymous No.22227233]

>>22226594
Quick wars also stem from weakness.
All states are weak or are afraid of becoming weak, so there’s perpetual offensive and defensive maneuvering going on. A deadly chess game that calls itself civilization.

[Anonymous No.22227239]

>>22227200
based
fuck doctors

[Anonymous No.22228247]

>>22221632
no this is a trans woman

[Anonymous No.22228304]

>>22221629
ywnbam

[Anonymous No.22228474]

>>22228247
>a trans woman
a.k.a. A perverted mentally ill man.

[Anonymous No.22228532]

>>22221923
>you are suggesting killing someone for being morally blind and acting from ignorance
treating grown ass adults like puppies who don't know what they're doing. Your own ignorance and blindness allows shit people to continue being shit.

[Anonymous No.22228534]

>>22221955
sinners know they are sinning and hundred fucking percent of the time lmao what are you on about broski.

[Anonymous No.22228550]

>>22223164
oh commodus was? you mean coincidentally just like every other emperor who had a bad relationship with the senate(aka: the whole upper class)
There were peasant revolts from the roman underclass led by red haired musicians claiming to be Nero reborn for centuries after his death. You've been bamboozled by the late antiquity equivalent of pic related

[Anonymous No.22228932]

>>22228474
>perverted
what makes her perverted?

[Anonymous No.22228938]

>>22221881
>ancient book that is widely read because of its timeless wisdom that has been proved again and again
>modern psychology where they blame everything on generational trauma and weird sexual fetishes not getting to be acted out with based on unscientific sources and are driven by (((researchers))) writing pseud bullshit to get their research bucks from the globohomo state
I'll choose the former.

[Anonymous No.22228961]

>>22221791
>>22221847
>>22221874
>>22221923
Oh look a bunch of cucks. How's the wife's bull doing btw. Ask me if she needs a new one

[Anonymous No.22228962]

>>22225258
Got a version of that that's actually readable?

[Anonymous No.22228966]

>>22221605
American MAGA populists are truly something special. I still can't believe how deeply the cuck meme from 2016 has penetrated their soul. Throughout human history no group has been so thoroughly obsessed with cuckoldry as to be the first thing brought up every time an author with an unfaithful wife is discussed.

[Anonymous No.22228969]

>>22228966
Go back to pleddit and never return

[Anonymous No.22228970]

>>22228474
As a non mentally ill man, how many hours per day do you ponder the trans question

[Anonymous No.22228984]

>>22228969
You know I am right. Before 2016 the r*ghtoid obsession about cucking didn't exist.

[Anonymous No.22229008]

>>22228984
Having your wife cheat on you has always been a matter of shame and ridicule for all of human history.

[Anonymous No.22229009]

>>22221605
>>22221620
>>22221629
I don't know why nobody said it but Marcus, on advise of his stoic teacher, murdered his wife's lover in front of her making sure his blood and brain matter covered her as she screamed in fear and then threatened her she would be next if anything like that ever happened again. That was considered the stoic response, because it's the most rational

[Anonymous No.22229019]

>>22229009
>I don't know why nobody said it
i ignored this "weekly stoic thread" that the christcucks made, after a while it gets too boring to point out the same errors they make and come back and make them again.

they're doing /pol/, not anything reality-based.


dont get me wrong, i'm not saying give up, i'm saying hunt them down and murder them until their noise stops.

same handful of people, same shit responses,
>>22228969
>Go back to pleddit
... u know what im no going to even scroll up this time

[Anonymous No.22229025]

>>22224379
>le
lol Mr Le, don't pretend you're interested in the subject.

>we can't talk about it
we know what you want to talk about: MUH SOCRATES FOUNDER OF STOICISM and then when you're corrected you disappear.

[Anonymous No.22229055]

>>22229009
So only one of several lovers?

[Anonymous No.22229065]

>>22221605
Stoicism sounds cool but isn't. Marcus was also only a man. He was prone to failings like all men, especially over pussy.

[Anonymous No.22229067]

>>22229009
>That was considered the stoic response, because it's the most rational
Ultimately yes it is. If you're dealing with a person or a group who demonstrates that they're impervious to reason, then removing them physically is the only option they give you. Whether you're up for the task of doing so is another matter, but I'd say the mental disciplines of stoicism; like the legionaries being able to stab up-close so many hostiles and not develop PTSD like modern soldiers, greatly assists in this.

e.g. if the person who keeps making this same thread was dead, then gradually the merits of stoicism would be able to be discussed, the person who makes this thread understands what they're doing to impede the subject - and they're not interested in being corrected.

FUN TIME
>>22228474
aka a former christian, muslim or jew - like every drug addict, faggot, child-rapists, pussy-eater, drunk, etc.

>>22226128
>consider that you engage in such a thing. Then what?
> Do you think that other people will trust you?
If you give them something far better than what they had before, sure. Even if you don't you've still earned the respect of the better of them, whose society is impeded in the same manner by the same type of people you just got done exterminating. That's kind of what the Eques Class citizen was in the Republic; the elite warriors of various allied nations who you've enabled to be put into their proper place as elite warriors, rather than being despised by effeminate priests and pirate merchants.

Sullas proscriptions were a good example of this as well.

>>22225940
>>22225964
>An eye for an eye leaves everyone except the most powerful tribe blind.
Whereas the strangulation of an entire family in retribution for a scratch leaves you with no fear of revenge and lots of new property.

>>22225362
>Stoicism is for living, not reading. The kind of people who need text books almost never put them into practice
Absolutely.

"Digging a vinyard is worthier exercise for a free man than lifting dumbbells,"

In a lot of ways people who go to books are in a state of mind where they're avoiding all practical application. It's why religion proves such a drug on them; the moment they find a way to rationalize never applying themselves in the world, that's it for them. They'll be the first, last and only person in the way of prosperity and self-betterment.

>>22225728
>It was written in the historia augusta, so it cannot be taken as fact, especially when it's a book known to warp the truth.
by the same argument we can dispense with everything said by anybody. dumb argument, academic skeptic.

>>22224550
>Happy 4th
i pray that the ghosts of washington and lafayette rise from the grave and decimate the cities of america for betraying the revolution and returning to heathen catholicism.

[Anonymous No.22229074]

>>22229008
Yes but that wasn't the first thing one would bring up in discussions of Marcus Aurelliu, neither were cheating scenes used to dismiss authors like Joyce. No one does this outside MAGA circles.

[Anonymous No.22229081]

>>22229074
As you were around during those times and know from first hand experience, what was the first thing people brought up in discussions of marcus aurelius?

[Anonymous No.22229088]

>>22229081
the cuck meme entered public consciousness in 2016, we both know this

[Anonymous No.22229100]

>>22221732
They are insecure about their masculinity and hate things they deem weak and effeminate. Hence the constant projections and self loathing

[Anonymous No.22229105]

>>22222294
>is purposefully pushed on wagies so they don't go insane from their hellish existenc
I wish I could show you worms hellish existence. If working for 8 hours is pain then you cannot imagine how worse it can get. It's a shame we cant dignify you with slavery

[Anonymous No.22229112]

>>22229088
Marcus foresaw donald trumps victory in the 2016 US elections?

[Anonymous No.22229115]

>>22229105
What's your idea of pain then?

[Anonymous No.22229119]

>>22224945
Trudeau never actually said that

[Anonymous No.22229140]

>>22225315
This but unironically. It's ridiculous and dogmatic to say that anyone is "innocent" even when you are a christian as you of all people should know that no one is without sin. It goes without saying that it is impossible to murder innocents and people who think otherwise suffer from braindead victim worship, usually for selfish ends but mostly out of mindless habit. There's nothing to say the person being murdered is a good person who did nothing to even cause his predicament.
>inb muh just world
Nah. You do not deserve anything at all

[Anonymous No.22229159]

>>22229115
Bullying you physically and mentally. Maybe a little rape.

[Anonymous No.22229165]

>>22229115
>>22229159
But simply living in a life that requires you to work and struggle is not really my idea of torture

[Anonymous No.22229172]

>>22229165
Some people find manual labour detestable and torturous. It's simply another facet of life. If that perplexes you, you need to find something else to transfix on then because its as common as birds in the sky.

[Anonymous No.22229173]

>>22222294
>so they don't go insane from their hellish existence and murder people
You've got it backwards, all people are insane and many people 'want' to murder people; if they can't they are just psychopaths and sociopaths in more cowardly ways, hence stoicism; to at least regiment the mind into a semblance of sanity.

>pushed by investor bros
It's not "pushed" anywhere; the entire consumer society is constantly pushing the opposite, "just do it" - as well as the massive influence on our direction as a species via politics of emotionalism, atrocity propaganda, etc.,


Real discussions on stoicism involve the highlighting of Pathos as the extreme and single evil in the world, and that of Logic as the antidote. Christians hate actual Stoicism because they quickly realize, after looking into it, that Pathos constitutes most their religion - along with the modern day George Floyd stories and generic lefty-lib fake-piety fake-outrage.

[Anonymous No.22229175]

>>22229173
So stoicism is only for the mentally deranged? Why not make stoicism a requirement to treat sociopathy?

[Anonymous No.22229183]

>>22229175
>So stoicism is only for the mentally deranged? Why not make stoicism a requirement to treat sociopathy?
if anyone believes in things without proof then they're mentally deranged at the core level - that's the point. But yes. Good observation. Stocism + Psychiatry is the way to advance beyond this basic childrens tier of "hm marcus aurelius, wroted a book, you say?" that people seem to get stuck in.

[Anonymous No.22229188]

>>22221732
the consequences of contrapoints. everyone seems to ape her hyper-campy, theatrical aesthetic. its frustrating, because to a lot of people (like me), its just unnecessary, performative bullshit that more often than not obfuscates rather than emphasises whatever point the creator is trying to make.

[Anonymous No.22229201]

>>22229172
I know, manual labour is a ubiquitous facet of life. If that perplexes you, then you need to find something else to transfix on. Because you might not be cut out for living. If you don't work you always die

[Anonymous No.22229215]

>>22229201
Not true at all. Manual labour is only one way to "work". The point of my post which seemed to be lost on your sensitive soul (seething for no reason) is that people are all different. What works for one does not work for another. The fact you needed to question something evident from everyday life shows how truly inept and immature you are. Kys now before the other realities of life set in.

[Anonymous No.22229217]

>>22229188
I honestly struggle to see any common ground with Catonian Stoicism and the youtuber theatrics. Seething satire would be more effective to undermine the rampant idiocy of modern frivolity. As like: Martial, Aetellan and Menippean Satire, etc.

You don't need to really 'teach' stoicism to people as much as grind away the nonsense-thinking of inferior people; then stoicism (in the principles) comes naturally to the mind.

[Anonymous No.22229225]

>>22229215
Without modern technology, manual labor is the only work you would ever do. I'm sorry you can't land an office job. It's not really my fault the suffering bar for you is this low and that natural selection no longer works on people like you. You're such a loser that you think calling someone immature is anything but you blowing wind out of your mouth.

[Anonymous No.22229236]

>>22221605
marcus aurelius the stoic cuck
Historia Augusta
p171 The Life of Marcus Aurelius
Part 2

https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Historia_Augusta/Marcus_Aurelius/2*.html

[Legamen ad paginam Latinam] 19 1 Some say, and it seems plausible, that Commodus Antoninus, his son and successor, was not begotten by him, but in adultery; 2 they embroider this assertion, moreover, with a story current among the people. On a certain occasion, it was said, Faustina, the daughter of Pius and wife of Marcus, saw some gladiators pass by, and was inflamed for love of one of them; and afterwards, when suffering from a long illness, she confessed the passion to her husband. 3 And when Marcus reported this to the Chaldeans, it was their advice that Faustina should bathe in his blood and thus couch with her husband. 4 When this was done, the passion was indeed allayed, but their son Commodus was born a gladiator, not really a prince; 5 for afterwards as emperor he fought almost a thousand gladiatorial bouts before the eyes of the people, as shall be related in his life.120 6 This story is considered plausible, as a matter of fact, for the reason that the son of so virtuous a prince had habits worse than any trainer of gladiators, any play-actor, any fighter in the arena, anything brought into existence from the offscourings of all dishonour and crime. 7 Many writers, however, state that Commodus was really begotten in adultery, since it is generally known that Faustina, while at Caieta, used to choose out lovers from among the sailors and gladiators.121 8 When Marcus Antoninus was told about p181 this, that he might divorce, if not kill her, he is reported to have said "If we send our wife away, we must also return her dowry". 9 And what was her dowry? the Empire, which, after he had been adopted at the wish of Hadrian, he had inherited from his father-in‑law Pius.

[Anonymous No.22229238]

>>22229225
>>22229215
>mindcucked amerilards who think people in the past worked 15h a day for their feudal lord, digging out turnips and taking it up the ass whenever massa had a boner
no, that nigger slavery shit is just pure kike fanfic material and it's not real at all. Go read a history book you illiterate diabeetus pigmutts

[Anonymous No.22229244]

>>22229236
>heidegger
cucked so hard wifey got pregnant by their family doctor
>napoleon
cucked TWICE, made the first cuckoldress an empress, and the second cuckoldress got pregnant while he was exiled to an island
>sartre
cucked in an open relationSHIT
>knee-cheese
had a cuck fetish and wrote love letters to another man's wife, constantly seething that her pristine vaginal orifice was constantly tainted by another man's love rod of degeneracy
>marcus aurelius
cucked by BGC (big gladiator cock), his son was NOT his which is why his personality was so different
>one of the russians that beat napoleon
cucked too, see:
>Princess Catherine Bagration (Russian: Eкaтepинa Пaвлoвнa Бaгpaтиoн; née Skavronskaya (Cкaвpoнcкaя); 7 December 1783 – 2 June [O.S. 21 May] 1857) was a Russian princess, married to the general prince Peter Bagration. She was known for her beauty, love affairs and unconventional behavior.

[Anonymous No.22229247]

>>22229238
>making up shit I never said
Love to see it

[Anonymous No.22229249]

>>22229247
pigmutt detected
let me spell it out for ya: oink oink

[Anonymous No.22229265]

The Historia Augusta is one massive ancient shitpost, so perfect for this place.

[Anonymous No.22229280]

>>22221605
I remember the ol days, where leftism on YouTube consisted of a fat rambling Maoist and edgy 12 year old anarchists ranting into their webcams. Today it's just homosexuals and trannys reading pop philosophy in long overproduced videos stuffed with ads and pointless filler. What the heck happened?

[Anonymous No.22229318]

>>22229280
It's called "progress".

[Anonymous No.22229389]

>>22229280
Youtube change their algo to reward longform content and trannies.

[Anonymous No.22229493]

>>22222451
>>22222463
Check out Weltgeist, it's basically audio with fitting paintings, pretty comfy and gets to the point

[Anonymous No.22229511]

>>22221605
Nihilism is cooler than stoicism. Read nihilist literature instead.

[Anonymous No.22229642]

>>22221955
>Most people, if shown the error of their ways, can and do change and become better people
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.22229670]

>>22229067
>by the same argument we can dispense with everything said by anybody. dumb argument, academic skeptic.
It's a book not only known to warp the truth, but also downright make shit up, so as a literary work why should it be trusted?. You don't believe every single thing written down or what people say do you?.

Given the guy's known character through his journal, personal philosophy and past actions, it is highly doubtful the guy did such a thing, there is such a thing called ''gossip'' what existed then and exists now. Ancient and medieval historians were known to warp and fabricate subjects to make things more interesting and entertaining. It's partly why getting to the truth of what actually happened in history is difficult.

[Anonymous No.22229694]

>>22229642
People can, and do change. Most people at 40 are not the same person mentally as they were at 20 and vice versa, many people regret what they may have done when they were younger and more ignorant for example. I thought most people who have been around a while knew this, it's common sense. I myself did shit when i was younger what i regret and try be a better person now as a result.

[Anonymous No.22229705]

>>22229694
>I myself did shit when i was younger what i regret and try be a better person now as a result.
What did you do?

[Anonymous No.22229741]

>>22229694
More to the point, bad people don't go around thinking they are bad like some moustache twirling villain in a Saturday morning cartoon, they usually think they are doing the right thing. People who deal in crack and heroin for example think they will be doing the right thing by supporting their families, but they're not because not only are they poisoning their communities they are also funding violent crime. People living in ignorance usually need to be shown the error of the ways through lawful punishment or some other way, but if you go around murdering people over minor infractions, how does that make you any better than them? and also some people would prefer death to being jailed for example, death is a one and done thing.

[Anonymous No.22229760]

>>22221629
I swear every rightoid nigga has some laughable ego problem.

[Anonymous No.22229763]

>>22229705
I was pretty violent and assaulted people over mere words, and said shit to women i regret. i was a slave to my emotions like anger and envy, now that i am older i think what the fuck was i doing then.

[Anonymous No.22229767]

>>22229763
>>I was pretty violent and assaulted people over mere words, and said shit to women i regret.
So did you contact them and offer compensation? Did you report yourself to the police to serve your time?

[Anonymous No.22229784]

>>22229767
>So did you contact them and offer compensation?
I apologised yes after i came back to my senses and they forgave me, i didn't have any money to give though as i was pretty poor at that time.
>Did you report yourself to the police to serve your time?
Nope, if i did such a thing now though i would do so, i wouldn't do such a thing now though as i am not that person anymore thankfully.

[Anonymous No.22229813]

>>22229784
Ok, so you didn't do anything and you're still the same piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.22229831]

>>22226753
Honestly I don't think that is the problem with a the USA
the USA needs a purpose, just think of all the technologies that came from the cold war, hell even the internet is a cold war technology
but since then nothing really new has come, and I believe its due to not having an outside opposition that can challenge it
factories and all the other things are of the past, we must towards the future not the past

>>22227233
while true, if no outside force challenges the state, then it will turn inwards, and that's when life gets really bad

>>22229119
he might as well have
let's be honest here

[Anonymous No.22229901]

>>22229813
>Ok, so you didn't do anything
i did, i still assaulted someone.
>and you're still the same piece of shit
It was going on 20 years ago mate, and i still have regrets and i am a different person like i said, less prone to anger and more compassionate, I was a little piece of shit, i would be the first to admit that, but like i said people change. I think if you went up to a copper now and said you smacked someone in the face 20 years ago when you were 17 years old they would look at you funny just tell you to stop wasting their time.

[Anonymous No.22230673]

>>22221605
Is Recurring theme i see