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If God good why bad thing happen?

>> No.22203600

>>22203581
When it rains it rains on everyone, farmer and builder

>> No.22203605

>>22203581
Only coping children actually believe in God's goodness

>> No.22203653

>>22203605
'Be ye like unto little children'
All other forms of cope are ultimately just cheap surrogates, period clothes and hats and sundry other threads and chemicals --as instances. Law/Theology at least birthed modern science/technology, whereas most modern forms of cope are sadly stillborn
What's your poison, anon?

>> No.22203709

God's greatest act of love and power was to paradoxically limit his own power so that the free world could be created in which His creations' actions would be as meaningful as His own

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzimtzum

>> No.22203845

>>22203581
All the suffering and evil in the world debunk beyond any doubt the alleged existence of a all knowing, all loving, all powerful being. Denying this is not just being irrational, but also lacking empathy.

>> No.22203853

>>22203581
If bad thing don't happen God can't be good

>> No.22203857

>>22203581
god is good because he makes life possible. the rest is up to us

>> No.22203900

How could good be if there is no bad?

>> No.22204097

>>22203581
You honestly have to be extremely retarded to believe in god in this age

>> No.22204104

>>22203581
Because god hates you.
This is the only logical answer.

>> No.22204116

>>22204097
Still in the prepubescent Dawkins/Hitchens phase, huh?

>> No.22204122

>Only God is perfect.
>If something is perfect, it would be God himself.
>The world is not God
>The world is imperfect
The real question is rather "why does this world exist?"

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>>22203605
>>22204097

>> No.22204145

>>22203581
Everyone believes in Jesus except Lucifer
I don't believe in Jesus.

>> No.22204153

>>22204104
Holy spirit is basically an IOU. God and Son do not form unity. Basically God hates his Son so he killed him (Satan)

>> No.22204155

>>22204116
No, I don't watch these. I just don't believe in god and I think faith is silly, just like your passive-aggressive projections

>> No.22204174

>>22204138
First post you replied to didn't assert a Fedora atheist response. He implied God exists. Simply said he isn't good.

>> No.22204176

>>22203581
>ermmmm free will ya freaking redditer!
ok then If God omnipotent and all knowing how free will happen
Checkmate post-redditers.

>> No.22204230

>>22203853
Look at children playing together for example. Pure joy and bliss happening, and it can exist without evil to define it.

>> No.22204261

>>22204097
This. Only some old people and social outcasts believe in a god. The latter explains why it is popular here

>> No.22204315

>>22203581
>>22203605
>>22204097
so you can be good in the face of bad.

>> No.22204376

Better question is why would God order the Israelites to kill the inhabitants of Israel and all their wives and children. God created those people just so they would be in the way in order for him to massacre them?

>> No.22204771

>>22204315
Biggest cope of all time

There are many things which are objectively worse than any possible outcome they can produce.
Why do some kids have bone cancer that hurts them they kill themselves?
Why do people get into accidents that disfigure them beyond the point of ever being able to enjoy life ever again?
Why do many work hard their whole lives, never earn more than the bare minimum, grow old and die alone?

Show me how God makes the math work.

>> No.22204782

>>22204261
You don't believe in God because you don't want to feel shame when you fuck your ass with your dragon dildo and lick the shit off from it.

>> No.22204809

>>22203581
Ignorance, the gods gave us the capacity of reason but many don't use it, and are more like animals as a result.

>> No.22204825

>>22204176
free will doesn't exist

>> No.22204833

>>22204782
you seem to know a lot about that topic anon

>> No.22204838

>>22203581
god wants you to kill pedos and enslave jews anon

>> No.22204849

>>22204825
KEK. Let me guess, Lutheran/ Calvinist? If that's the true nature of god I'm with the Luciferians and Free Masons. That's ok though god wrote me in his gay story at my conception to be this way, right?

>> No.22204852

original sin

>> No.22204853

>>22203581
>God create woman and man
>woman cant say things directly
> man doesn't understan.
> says it ok ill make something cool for you and then Ill be happy with you
> woman man gets jealous.
> woman man tells woman that man man is bad
> man man become sad
Eats from the decaying tree of pedophilia.
Your conceptions of good and evil are completely wrong. DO NOT STRIVE TO FORGIVE OTHERS FOR WEAKNESS TEACH THE TRUE STRENGTH.
> man goes insane
> man says I love you to woman
> woman doesnt understand.
> if you love me why you reject me first time?
> man is sad very sad
> woman man says love is bad. Only pleasure is real. there is no immortal soul.
> MAN GETS ANGRY
> YOUR A JOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.22204863

>>22203581
I guess little kids just can't understand the glory of free will unless some of them die from horrible illnesses, or something

>> No.22204877

>>22204863
for real like autism and add

>> No.22204892

God/gods depending on what you believe are not omnipotent, we were given the capacity to reason and free will, which is a part of himself as a compromise, no other animals have this. men who don't use their capacity to reason become like beasts as a result of ignorance.

>> No.22204894

based

>> No.22204906

>>22204853
>man forgive JOOOOOO
> if no jew and no lie what point living.
> power is truth, truth is god, god is love
> the man understands. He is too direct. He must grasp the metaphysical subtlies of every living being. Lies come from insecurties of the ego and even the man lied sometimes. Especially when he sick. we can all live in a beautiful world as long as we leave our egos at the door and live a honest life. I reccoment to all of you to read the book of revlation alongside the kybalion and your faith in god shall be restored. Most of you are allready there. There cannot be truth with out lies.
There cannot be pleasure without pain.
There cannot be birth without death.
There cannot be sunshine wihtou a little rain.

>> No.22204931

>>22204906
the head bites the tail.
There cannot be spiritual without material.
They are in perfect unison.
Aristotle posited that man was to become master of his enviroment
Plato posited that man should become one with the universe.
These goals are one and the same.

>> No.22204934

>>22204849
You'll be judged in the next life for your contempt of God

>> No.22205047
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>>22204097
>Sophomoric speculative statement
already been refuted by the Kalam cosmological argument

>> No.22205268

>>22204122
So there is a scale of “perfection” which is greater than God and which conditions God? If God is the supreme being, perfection need not exist in the way it does.

>> No.22205290

>>22204934
Hell have to judge himself in judging me.

>> No.22205296

>>22205047
>… which was then refuted by Kant

>> No.22205300

>>22204782
>The theist’s mind immediately jumps to deprave sexual urges without any prompting
Interesting… I’m going to note this on my form.

>> No.22205306

>>22203581
I don't know. I'm not sure what God or the gods want. I really can't answer your question. Maybe it's out of god's hands. Maybe he doesn't care. Maybe it's for a greater good. Maybe it's actually good but we have no comprehension of true horror. Maybe he just decided he'd leave us to our devices and see what we did. No mortal can know the will of the gods or if they have a true will at all. I'm just an animist.

>> No.22205333

There is no god in an infinite universe because there's no perfection just endless ouroboros shit fuck. The hierarchy goes forever and never ends

>> No.22205373

>>22204934
>God creates me, a man he designed for failure. Like a car without two front tires.
>God at my judgment: Why did you fail me?

>> No.22205593

>God doesn't exist because.. its a coping mechanism
So is alcohol?

>> No.22205859

>>22205300
You haven't denied it degenerate fuck.

>> No.22205879

>>22203600
the fuck is that supposed to mean

>> No.22205887

>>22204852
Thhbbbbtt!

>> No.22205890

>>22204261
>Only some old people and social outcasts believe in a god
You just described the story of every religion.

>> No.22205896

>>22203581
Cause God rules, not cares

>> No.22206039

>>22203581
God didn't create mankind so that they could enjoy their time on Earth, he created them so that they would worship him.

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22206106

christfags should get their own board akin to /x/

>> No.22206123

>>22204782
I don't believe in God. I think people who put anything in their ass should be executed. Check mate, theist.

>> No.22206136

>>22205593
man created both to cope, amazing analogy, thank you

>> No.22206154

>>22203581
God's morality is different.

One argument could be that the balance of the world is required for it's `health`.

>> No.22206178

>>22206136
>man created both to cope
Maybe... hmm... you are coping. Maybe the whole "God is a cope" is a cope itself.

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>>22203581
If Satan bad why good thing happen?

>> No.22206386

>>22203581
People experience bad things as a result of karma, and it is allowed to happen due to divine lila.

>> No.22206414

>>22205879
>Being this retarded
The farmer wants the rain for his crops and the builder doesn't want it to rain so he can work on his project. A given event can be bad for some and good for others

>> No.22206424

>>22205296
The Kalam cosmological argument layed out by William Craig in 1979 was refuted by Kant who died in 1804. Makes total sense

>> No.22206455

>>22203581
God isn't good, he's righteous

>> No.22206456

>>22206106
>They just made up God the Father becuase He's like a human father.
>Religion is made up to make people feel good about themselves.
>People made up religion becuase we don't know how the universe was created.
Nice cope, haven't heard any of that before

>> No.22206479

>>22206414
Wow that is absolutely brilliant brother.

>> No.22206531

>>22206456
Well, that text is a 100 years old and already had it's influence. What it does point out is that if religious 'facts' aren't empirically observable or logically deducible, the only category left is wish-fulfillment, where it's nature fits perfectly.

>> No.22206534

If God bad why good thing happen?

>> No.22206541

>>22204261
This. Even the really pious people in history were the nerds of their time, everyone else thought they were kind of weird and didn't really follow their religion too closely.

>> No.22206550

What business is it of yours what happens to God's creations?

>> No.22206558

"muh free will" has to be the dumbest cope of all. As if human will, even if it exists, has anything to do with animals being ripped apart by parasites, animals starving to death or animals horribly dying painful deaths in random forest fires.

>It is among fish species in particular that we find some of the most extreme examples of the r-strategy. Consider a particular example discussed by Oscar Horta: the Atlantic Cod population located on the Gulf of Maine’s bank (Horta 2010). An adult female cod lays anywhere from many thousands to many millions of eggs each time (Jørstad et al. 2007, 11). Furthermore, it was estimated that in 2007 the Gulf of Maine’s bank contained 33, 877 metric tons of ‘spawning stock’, i.e., one million cod old enough to breed if we assume an average weight of 33.877 kilograms per cod (Mayo et al. 2009, 100). Even if only a small proportion of their eggs hatch, it remains true that a tremendous amount of suffering and premature death occurs every time a more or less stable cod population of this size reproduces. Horta estimates an aggregate total of 200 billion seconds or roughly 6,300 years of suffering across the doomed codlings produced per cycle, but the precise figures don’t really matter. Whatever the correct amount of suffering and premature death is, it’s astronomically high, and this is just for a specific r-strategist fish species in a very specific geographic area.
>Consider that elephants might have 6 offspring; mice, 40; some species of salmon, 17,000; and ocean sunfish, 300 million per year. Obviously, most of these animals die young.

If God exists, he's a sadist who designed a natural world as an engine of pure suffering where trillions upon trillions of living beings painfully and pointlessly dying in infancy.

>> No.22206563

>>22206558
see
>>22206550

>> No.22206564

>>22206106
not an argument

>> No.22206569

>>22204376
The people moved in themselves

>> No.22206572

>>22206563
>What business is it of yours what happens to God's creations?
I just think God overseeing a torture chamber of trillions upon trillions of short-lived beings is bad.

Presumably if you were kidnapped and raped and tortured for a week then killed and dumped in a canal, you would not think "Well, it's God's creation, not my business".

>> No.22206577

>>22206572
Why should anyone care what you think? Especially, why should God care what you think?

>> No.22206586

>>22206564
The arguments are made in the chapters before this and you probably have seen them before all before and used the same copes mentioned in there too. This is just the conclusion on what the nature religion is >>22206531

>> No.22206587

>>22206577
By any imaginable standard of goodness, the natural world God created is not good. But if you don't disagree and want to say God not being good, and perhaps being evil, doesn't matter because he's a big guy, then go ahead.

>> No.22206589

>>22203581
because the british are still alive

>> No.22206591

>>22206587
the natural world God created is very good. it is full of beauty and order, and I'd filled with many physical, mental, and spiritual pleasures. nearly every thing that any man could possibly desire is found, in abundance, in the natural world. furthermore, those things that cannot be found in the natural world are poured out upon Man in such a torrent that no one could even begin to contemplate anything but the smallest fraction of them.
your ideas have lead you to unhappiness, and mine to happiness. so which of us is the better for our beliefs?

>> No.22206604

>>22206587
I understand your sentiment, but neither free will nor the concept of good and evil apply to animals.

>> No.22206613

>>22206591
>the natural world God created is very good. it is full of beauty and order, and I'd filled with many physical, mental, and spiritual pleasures.
This is impossibly naïve. The beauty and pleasure of the natural world is vastly outweighed by the incredible engine of suffering that is unfathomable trillions of animals dying painful, pointless deaths like clockwork.

>your ideas have lead you to unhappiness, and mine to happiness. so which of us is the better for our beliefs?
I'm perfectly happy. But even if what you say were true, holding beliefs to be true or false on the basis of how happy they would make us is a terrible epistemology.

>>22206604
Anyone who doesn't think an innocent puppy dying painfully in a house fire is bad is a sociopath.

>> No.22206618

>>22206604
>>22206613
cont.
"Wild animal suffering isn't a problem for God's omnibenevolence because animals don't have any moral status" is an argument for it being legal to torture animals for our own pleasure.

>> No.22206620

>>22206613
which one of those animals would choose death, if given an alternative? clearly even the animals are happy with life and the world, in the way an animal can be happy.
if you were happy then you would see that life is good and worth living. if you do see that, then it cannot be argued (by you, at least) that there is not more good than bad in the world. if you cannot see that life is good and worth living, then you are clearly unhappy.
happiness is the ultimate end of man, is it not? if a man is happy, what else could he possibly need? if he is unhappy, what could possibly satisfy him? therefore, that which makes man happy is that which is good, and that which makes him happiest is that which is best.
I have yet to meet a man as happy as men who love God

>> No.22206627

>>22206613
>Anyone who doesn't think an innocent puppy dying painfully in a house fire is bad is a sociopath
I agree, but such an event is not a product of evil that needs correction or eradication in some sort of a moral sense, implying the house fire is an accident. If you look objectively, it just is

>> No.22206637

>>22206618
>Wild animal suffering isn't a problem for God's omnibenevolence because animals don't have any moral status" is an argument for it being legal to torture animals for our own pleasure.
Here animal torture is an act done by a being who fully grasps the idea of good and evil, so the rule applies

>> No.22206656

>>22206627
>I agree, but such an event is not a product of evil that needs correction or eradication in some sort of a moral sense, implying the house fire is an accident. If you look objectively, it just is
The world would be better if the puppy didn't die in the house fire. The world is worse if the puppy does die in the house fire. That such an event occurs naturally is an indictment of the goodness of the creator of nature. And this is just a single example of the fate of countless trillions of animals.

>> No.22206664

>>22203581
The only people I hate more than imposing christfags are fedora tipping atheists who seriously think they're smarter than anyone for having common sense. Especially the ones that use the cringey catchphrases like:
>sorry, I don't believe in fairytale

>> No.22206678

>>22206656
>The world would be better if the puppy didn't die in the house fire. The world is worse if the puppy does die in the house fire.
This looks like a childlike, sweet comment and I mean this as a compliment lol. But no, I don't think the world changes for the better of worse; however, its up to your reaction and how you will change the world as you react to the disaster. You also mention suffering in the natural world, but the world is also beautiful just as much as it is destructive

>> No.22206689

>>22206678
>But no, I don't think the world changes for the better of worse
You don't think it's worse if a dog dies horribly painfully than if a dog doesn't? Weird moral compass but ok

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>>22203581
Because 'God' is Evil. We are trapped in a prison designed and run by a sadist.

>> No.22206698

>>22206664
what's most important is that you managed to feel superior to everyone else by doing literally nothing and distinguishing yourself in no way

>> No.22206703

>>22206689
>You don't think it's worse if a dog dies horribly painfully than if a dog doesn't
Yes I do, my point is that you can't help it if it is an accident, and another one is that it does not make sense to apply human morality/law to animals, as long as humans are not involved

>> No.22206721

>>22206703
Well God is by definition involved in nature he created, and can stop any accident at any time, and morality comes from and is applied to God.

>> No.22206733

>>22206721
Yes, and again, it does not mean an accidental death is somehow immoral by default, making said god evil, especially when we are talking about animals

>> No.22206740

>>22206733
Precisely because moral law will not affect an animal, amongst other things

>> No.22206743

>>22206531
>has to be logically deducible or empirically observable
You sound like a science worshipping redditor. Regardless, religion is logically deducible and there are many logical arguments supporting it.

>> No.22206746

>>22206733
You agreed that a dog dying pointlessly and horribly painfully is worse than if a dog doesn't die in such a manner. Yet this happens in nature to trillions of animals daily. So God is complicit in making the world worse.

>> No.22206752

>>22204097
Grow up

>> No.22206765

>>22203581
God bad because your fault

>> No.22206791

>>22206746
Then I will add that the dog is unconscious, and the suffering is "fake". The dog's response is primal instinct and nothing else. Our empathy is not required, but we still give it to them, which is our role as conscious beings, which is beautiful, but perhaps also a flaw. The pain in nature is not the same as pain felt by humans

>> No.22206832

>>22205268
No. As God is perfect, the scale is just based on him.

>> No.22206839

>>22206752
Already did by rejecting sandnigger fairy tales. Fuck off

>> No.22206888

>>22206839
>NOOO HOW CAN YOU SAY THERES NO CREATOR WHEN I DONT HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE????
You athetroons believe in cuck porn more than anything really

>> No.22206892

>>22206888
there is a creator*

>> No.22206897

>>22206888
>WE NEED A CREATOR TO CREATE THE UNIVERSE OMG
>BUT WE DONT NEED A CREATOR TO CREATE THE CREATOR BECAUSE UH UH BECAUSE...STAHP

>> No.22206986

>>22206897
>PRIME mover
ladies and gentlemen, athepigs proving their subhuman status yet again

>> No.22207000

>>22206986
Why can't an 'explosion' be a prime mover? Does there need to be one?

>> No.22207170

>>22205296
>meaningless statement with absolutely zero basis

>> No.22207219

>>22207000
>Does there need to be one?
Yes, believing something came out of nothing is not less retarded than complete religious zealots. The explosion might have been it, or something before it, we don't know, and until we do I think both sides should shut the fuck up

>> No.22207235

>>22206986
>gets btfo
>handwaives the logical inconsistency with a fancier term
lmao

>> No.22207240

>>22207219
>believing something came out of nothing is not less retarded than complete religious zealots
It's significantly less retarded because it requires less steps.

1. No universe then 2. Universe (or even 1. Universe) as opposed to 1. Nothing (except the creator, lmao) 2. Universe The difference between first and third options is that the third inserts a new element for no fucking reason

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>>22207240
NTA, but lol.
Believing the Universe we all know came out of nothing and all its foundations are nothing but a product of an explosion is actually way crazier than to believe in a God as the prime mover. The number of "elements" is not indicative of a validation of an argument.

>> No.22207271

If god is based, why might he allow cringe to proliferate?

>> No.22207280

>>22207267
because you're trying to explain something you can't understand in terms that you can understand. All we can say for sure is that either the universe always existed, or it didn't always and then one day it did. Either is ridiculous, but to add that option #2 needs a creator is even more batshit because either that creator always existed or it didn't always and then one day it did. You take more mental gymnastics to get to the same exact result. It is objectively more ridiculous

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>>22203581
Why good thing happen?

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>>22207219
Show me where the circle begins.

>> No.22207309

>>22203581
There is no God, there is no good, there is no evil.

We find each of these things in the world, not as existing things, but as disparate things we combine by interpreting them through patterns and relationships. This is what gives rise to your personal relationship with the divine.

Consider the structures of your thought, and what the question actually implies.

>> No.22207336

>>22207280
>because you're trying to explain something you can't understand in terms that you can understand.
Are we not all?

God being eternal and therefore being the prime mover of the Universe is a more reasonable argument to explain the complexity and the order of our Universe. The Universe and Life itself being product of chance is ridiculous.

>> No.22207374

>>22207336
>The Universe and Life itself being product of chance is ridiculous.
Not when you really look at life. The human experience is 1 experience in a billion and even this gets pretty shit sometimes with random illnesses, cancers, etc. Most of the life is sleeping, eating, mating forever. For millions of years the best life had to offer was being the biggest, strongest, fastest huge lizard on a planet that's a bunch of huge dinosaurs preying on eachother. I see very little grand design there. Looks more like exactly what would happen when random shit coalesces into a bunch of organisms that need to perpetuate itself just because that's what it started doing at some point

>> No.22207585

>>22207235
how is pointing out an infinite entity not needing a creator a logical inconsistency? why does it feel like I'm arguing against animals
>>22207240
>No universe
>Universe (out of nowhere)
No, this is just as ridiculous, and I am not sure why are you so fervent on defending that position.
>>22207298
I mentioned the big bang myself. Show me proof universe follows the laws of a circle lol

>> No.22207593

>>22206123
Why you fucking weirdo

>> No.22207632

>>22204315
I like to imagine a smug westerner saying this to a dying child soldier. Why do christcucks think this is a good argument? Even if some amount of suffering is necessary for *desireable outcome* its easy to point to specific instances where God could have removed suffering without changing much else. Surely an all-powerful all-good Hod would do that much.

>> No.22207655

>>22207632
>child soldier
humans caused that shit, atherape baby, not god. brainless niggers all over this thread, jesus

>> No.22207674

God is not omnipotent or perfect.

>> No.22207683

>>22207655
humans maybe partially. Untermenschen most definetly.
There are only the unter and uber now. sad to say.

>> No.22207689

>>22207655
God can intervene though, unless either he is so neutered that doing anything post-creation causes the collapse of free will, or that he doesn't care about human suffering.

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>>22207374
>Most of the life is sleeping, eating, mating forever
You guys mating?

>> No.22207700

Or maybe he just created us, and gave us a part of himself, that is our capacity to reason and free will, but has no power on earth beyond this and cannot influence it. This is why people are capable of doing bad things, mainly through ignorance of what is good or bad, and why people get ill etc, because he isn't perfect.

>> No.22207714

>>22204771
God gives everyone choice. That’s how the math works out. Unfortunately few choose to know Him.

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>>22203581
God killed themselves through polymorphism and created the Universe through his particles scattered everywhere. Every living being and every rock and tree is a particle of God that is trying to die. The meaning of life is God's suicide. Everything is trying to get closer and closer to entropy in order to stop God's existence. Every bad thing that happens is God's death drive.

>> No.22207723

>>22207700
>If God isn't triple-O the problem of evil goes away!
Congragulations on your discovery

>> No.22207730

>>22207700
Or maybe something more sinister is going on

>> No.22207752

>>22207723
Evil is an action of humanity, stemming from ignorance, anger, desire, greed, hate and lust etc, nothing god can do anything about, because like i said, he is not omnipotent.

People also do good and charitable things, through good judgment and reasoning, something which he gave us when he created us.

>> No.22207790

>>22207752
>he is not omnipotent
If God isn't omnipotent, then "he" isn't God. If evil stronger than God, then evil IS God. Thanks man, now I understand, I'll go worship The Devil now, because God is a useless bitch who can't do anything therefore is not worthy of a praise.

>> No.22207792

>>22207730
Or maybe he is just flawed like the rest of us, after all it is just human beings who see him as a perfect being, nature isn't perfect either, which some people say is a representation of god or god itself.

>> No.22207798

>>22207752
The problem of evil is against a triple-O god. Reducing it to a double-O god is a fine solution but irrelevant to the larger debate.

>> No.22207831

>>22203581
The Problem of Evil is great. Christians are forced to assume hard determinist positions where God writes the code and lets it play out and can't intervene without breaking anything. In refuting the problem of evil they refute their own conception of God.

>> No.22207846

Onions

>> No.22208138

>>22207846
>booba source of all evil
>ngmi

>> No.22208143
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22208143

Name 1 bad thing, that isn't done by man.

>> No.22208152

>>22207689
Pretty sure god is meant to be the judge, not the imminent solution. Basically, yes, your first part of the sentence is right, but in the sense that he neutered himself

>> No.22208178

>>22207831
The problem of evil starts with the original sin, God is not intervening precisely because we damned ourselves and it's up to us to come back to him. You get free will here too. That's one of the basic Christian stances, I suppose

>> No.22208261

>>22206414
True. Now that I think of it, 5 year olds having stage 4 cancer is excellent for big healthcare

>> No.22208277

>>22204174
You're trying to make a shitposter understand something.

>> No.22208286

>>22207593
There is no reason for insertion of organs or devices in the anus. It is unsanitary, filthy, cause for disease. If you don't believe in God the answer is clinical and very simple. People who engage in these behaviors should be removed. Notwithstanding, Benatar's misanthropic argument clearly shows the very existence of such people is a net harm to others and I and society would be better off without them existing. Religious people want to convert them and forgive them. I do not. You still subscribe to humanism if you think such defects should be embraced and hence still operate on a quasi religious idealist framework not founded in material reality.

>> No.22208331

>>22206986
Lmao shove that prime mover up your ass. You can't just selectively give supernatural powers to one made up thing and pretend it explains anything.
>>22207585
>Show me proof universe follows the laws of a circle lol
HAHAHA A RELIGIOUS PERSON IS ASKING FOR PROOF HAHAHAHA
How hard is it to accept that you know nothing about the universe, and god is the simplest explanation that came to mind.
>why does it feel like I'm arguing against animals
Retard projection.

>> No.22208345

>>22203581
>Everything God does is good
>God makes bad things happen

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>>22203581
>If God good
Anon... I...

>> No.22208401

>>22208331
>You can't just selectively give supernatural powers to one made up thing and pretend it explains anything.
Yes you can, that's why it's called belief. NTA but you're retarded

>> No.22208416

>>22208401
Yes you can believe in Santa as well. There's no validity to it.

>> No.22208744

>>22208416
It doesn't need validity, that's why it's called a belief. It's in the word.

>> No.22209004

>>22208744
Then what are you even arguing for?

>> No.22209572

>>22203581
Because he can