/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22196620]

He’s above the Nobel prize and he knows it. May as well award Shakespeare a Nobel prize posthumously as well

[Anonymous No.22196626]

>>22196620
Don't know who this is and I don't care.

[Anonymous No.22196630]

fax

all these other writers are doomed to obscurity, nobel or not

[Anonymous No.22196640]

>>22196620
Literally who?

[Anonymous No.22196642]

He knew he did not deserve it and was just being used.

[Anonymous No.22196660]

>>22196642
This, I’m afraid.

[Anonymous No.22196759]

>>22196642
>didn’t deserve a prize 50+ talentless hacks have been given
>the greatest artist of the past 80 years

[Anonymous No.22196765]

>>22196759
Wiggle Wiggle.

[Anonymous No.22196772]

>>22196642
>>22196660
Can you name a writer which is a superior artist to Bob Dylan from 1941 onward? Serious question

[Anonymous No.22196776]

>>22196772
Easily. Next question.

[Anonymous No.22196780]

>>22196765
Off the top of my head TS Eliot and James Joyce both have nonsensical little things they wrote for their kid relatives. I’m sure the total list for that is massive.

[Anonymous No.22196788]

>>22196776
I’d expect you to list a good writer like Gass or Marquez lol. Pynchon is literally nobody. Not even literary critics or writers take him seriously, outside of maybe Bloom — who was an awful critic and also believed Dylan’s nobel was justified.

[Anonymous No.22196810]

>>22196772
Most all the Nobel laureates of literature who were born after 41.
>>22196780
Perhaps but Joyce and Eliot had the sense to not make those writings a part of their work. Imagine Wiggle Wiggle as the first chapter of Ulysses or first stanza of The Wasteland.

[Anonymous No.22196950]

>>22196810
Imagine if Old Possum’s Book of Cats were the start of Blood on the Tracks or Blonde on Blonde.

>>22196810
>most Nobel laureates after 41
Name some.

[Anonymous No.22196955]

How do I into Dylan?

[Anonymous No.22196964]

Will Taytay get a Nobel?

[Anonymous No.22196973]

Literally plagiarist from the beginning his career to now. His music. His books. His Nobel speech. All plagiarism. He is a hack. Leonard Cohen is a real poet. Better lyrics and never stole

[Anonymous No.22196981]

>>22196950
>Imagine if Old Possum’s Book of Cats were the start of Blood on the Tracks or Blonde on Blonde.
Did you miss the point or ignore it?
>Name some.
Going from memory and best guess on age, Handke, Llosa, Muller, Coetzee, Pamuk. I am guessing you have not actually read many (if any) Nobel Laureates.

[Anonymous No.22196984]

>>22196973
Do you know entire stanzas of Hamlet are lifted straight from Shakespeare’s source play? Not to mention Chaucer, Dante, Eliot, and so many others.

Plagiarism is not something which exists in art. Plagiarism is a concept which only exists in academic research and (Western) corporate law.
>Leonard Cohen is better
Great songwriter but only charlatans think this

[Anonymous No.22196990]

>>22196981
I’ve read and studied actual great writers, some of them Nobel laureates, certainly not the nobodies you just named. Couldn’t give you a single fucking thought as to anything they’ve done. They weren’t great enough. And like that they’ll be forgotten. Nobodies

[Anonymous No.22197000]

>>22196984
You're trying to justify literally ripping out entire passages from numerous books and calling them your own words. Chronicles has almost word for word plagiarism from at least 11 confirmed books. He is a hack. Literally copy paste hack. Even with his plagiarism Leonard Cohen's lyrics have much more soul. Dylan's protest folk period is gay. The surrealist madlibs BOB period is cringe. His only good writing is BOTT and later albums when he was writing more sincere like Cohen lol

[Anonymous No.22197001]

>>22196981
>>22196990
Oh wait! Coetzee, yeah the guy that wrote Disgrace. One of the worst books I’ve ever read. Sincerely. Good to know your taste sucks with total affirmation

[Anonymous No.22197006]

>>22197000
I don’t have to justify artistic license. You crying about it is hilarious. Since you’re crying, can you now tear down Shakespeare, Chaucer, and Dante? Since they did the exact same thing in their greatest works, please do it now so I can screenshot. Thank you

[Anonymous No.22197007]

>>22196990
>i have never read them but I know they are not as good because they do not exist in my bubble
If you don't even know Handke then you should not be on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.22197009]

>>22197001
Lol, you are a literally retard and not because of your opinion of Disgrace.

[Anonymous No.22197013]

>>22197007
I know who he is, never read anything by him. Sure it’s good. Maybe not if he’s being placed alongside that pretentious graffiti artist Coetzee lmao

[Anonymous No.22197026]

>>22197009
I need you to understand most writers are awful. Most artists are awful. Every now and then you’ll get one like Whitman or Dylan. For the most part it’s academic chumps working in English departments and writing about their bitter confused outlooks on the world, and they inspire absolutely nothing in anyone outside of people who are inspired by miserable moping. Of course, even in that category you have some brilliant people like Gass and John Edward Williams.

[Anonymous No.22197033]

>>22196620
Disgusting physiognomy. Only a retard would pay attentipn to this fag.

[Anonymous No.22197036]

>>22197006
It's cringe when anyone does it but they weren't lifting all their words from multiples sources like Dylan. Any one who copy pastes other peoples work in every page of their book is a hack. His words aren't original. I don't care about unoriginal writers. Leonard Cohen never lifted a line. Dylan lifts passages every single page! It's not his words. You enjoy Dylan you're actually enjoying 30 other writers

[Anonymous No.22197046]

>>22197026
I understand perfectly, you have no self awareness or awareness of the world beyond the bubble you created for yourself.
>For the most part it’s academic chumps working in English departments and writing about their bitter confused outlooks on the world, and they inspire absolutely nothing in anyone outside of people who are inspired by miserable moping.
That is just about the best description of Gass (whose writing I love) I have read.

[Anonymous No.22197065]

>>22196620
The problem with giving him the prize is that it opens a can of worms now that every lyricist is now a contender for literature. Might as well award Tupac Shakur then. Nobel prize outside of natural sciences is a joke anyway

[Anonymous No.22197100]

>>22196964

Does her body of work justify it?

[Anonymous No.22197220]

>>22196776
when will /lit/ move past this absolute hack. it's been more than a decade

[Anonymous No.22197558]

>>22196772
Taylor Swift. Dylan is only acclaimed for being part of the chosen tribe.

[Anonymous No.22197570]

>>22197000
>Leonard Cohen's

He wrote some good songs but the number of his good songs is much smaller than the number of good Dylan songs, or for that matter, David Bowie.

[Anonymous No.22197572]

>>22197026
>finds disgrace shit
>thinks dylan is good
Retard

[Anonymous No.22197582]

>>22197026
Gass is fucking trash. He can't write fiction to save his life and you wabt to award him a nobel? Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.22198193]

>>22196788
>Marquez
Only Americans and high school girls think Marquez is good.

[Anonymous No.22198208]

>>22196642
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[Anonymous No.22198221]

1. Dylan is a mumbling, wheezing hack and the musical equivalent of Thierry Guetta
2. The Nobel prize for anything other than STEM fields is deeply compromised. I'm sure anons familiar with science will confirm than even those Nobels are politically motivated in some way

[Anonymous No.22198449]

>>22196772
Bait post.

[Anonymous No.22199643]

>>22197100
No. But It justifies all the men she had sex with