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[Anonymous No.22194670]

Evola's two favorite models of society were India and Tibet

>-Tibet before the CPC liberated it was ruled by a pedophilac elite that treated their peasants, the majority of the population, as livestock.
>-India, the place the dalai lama went to, is an extremely backwards country where dalits, the majority of the population, are beaten just for using a different water fountain. Everyone, including much of the elites, lives in extreme poverty. There are noi toilets and all their water is filthy to an extreme. The communists in Kerala are the only region in India to have toilets standardized.

and you shudras and dalits find this guy's glowie ideology appealing? He'd be fully onboard the things hollywood is doing apart from the woke aesthetics

[Anonymous No.22194702]

He's just a pseudo-traditionalist who claims to hate materialism but doesn't escape it. You're better off reading Heidegger.

[Anonymous No.22194719]

>>22194670
His favorite model was actually Imperial Japan
Stay mad tho

[Anonymous No.22194720]

>>22194670
I expect there's excellent access to plumbing in the forced labour and reeducation camps Tibetans are forced to attend by the CCP. How grateful they must be.

[Anonymous No.22194743]

>>22194720
Tibetians now get to learn a valuable trade while their ancestors were raped by the buddhist nobility literally and through their property and produce. Seems superior

[Anonymous No.22194747]

>>22194719
Imperial japan is basically the same as tibet and india. the majority of the population were slaves and the samurais went around doing whatever they wanted without accountability. Basically donuteaters of the medevial era

[Anonymous No.22194752]

>>22194719
Imperial japan is basically the same as tibet and india. the majority of the population were slaves and the samurais went around doing whatever they wanted without accountability. Basically donuteaters of the general medevial era, and the unneeded suffering caused by these systems is needed because it "produces" something. Yes, an "elite" domesticated by their own hubris and america like how india is

[Anonymous No.22194758]

>>22194752
>Imperial Japan
>Samurai
Retard

[Anonymous No.22194765]

I need advice about reading Evola. So far I've read Introduction to Magic Volume 1 and the Yoga of Power. I understood very little from the latter and I didn't get the former when alchemy was discussed and I was told I should have read the Hermetic Tradition before it. So I intend to read his books in chronological order, except in the introduction to the Yoga of Power was written that it's just a revised and more complete version of Man as Power, so clearly some books should be skipped.
What do you think?
BTW I've read them in Italian so the English titles may be different.

[Anonymous No.22194779]

>>22194765
read guenon/core/ from picrel
it will help you 100x understand esoteric Evola
everyone gets filtered by Evola on their first try

[Anonymous No.22194801]

>>22194743
>eat, sleep and work in a textile factory making shit-quality clothes to export to the west
>more valuable than farming
Raises some pretty obvious questions like if it's better for them, why do they have to be compelled to do it, and why can't they have a referendum to show their support.

Another thing people like to forget is that Tibet was a vassal state of Qing dynasty China from 1720 right up until 1912. Chiang Kai-Shek wanted it back before the Communists ever got involved. It's pretty difficult to establish how repressive it really was because both sides are biased af, but it doesn't seem at all out of line with the rest of Asia at the time. If you read accounts by anybody who went there on the British expeditions, people seem quite happy.

>shanghai.gif
Let's have a look at it in the daytime. You know, with the smog.

[Anonymous No.22194823]

>>22194765
With his esoteric books, try to look at it in terms of them illuminating each other rather than there being a correct linear order. When you start to see the common elements under the different symbolism (alchemical, tantric, Buddhist, grail myths, etc) it will start to click. There's more of a chronology in the political work where he moves from "revolt against it" to "wait it out" and this goes along with events in the external world like WWII and Gladio.

[Anonymous No.22194827]

>>22194752
Lmaoooo This nigga don't know what the Meiji restoration was.

[Anonymous No.22194911]

>>22194752
Bet you learnt all this about Samurai from Shogun

[Anonymous No.22194981]

>>22194752
>the majority of the population were slaves and the samurais went around doing whatever they wanted without accountability
Like today, except replace samurais with rich people.

[Anonymous No.22194992]

>>22194823
>With his esoteric books, try to look at it in terms of them illuminating each other rather than there being a correct linear order
Yeah but I think I get the most out of it by reading it in chronological order. What bothers me most is if some books could be redundant, like yoga of power and man as power.

[Anonymous No.22194996]

>>22194670
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[Anonymous No.22195482]

>>22194827
>>22194719
Evola would prefer the Tokugawa caste system over Meiji restoration, which was Anti-Tradition. Tokugawa shogunate was a lot more similar to the Ghibbeline period of HRE, which Evola loved, than Meiji restoration.
>>22194670
Evola is interesting but had no spiritual realization. Also, the Aryans depicted the sun as being personified by a female goddess and the moon as male. However, the Daylight Sky, the supreme god, was male.

[Anonymous No.22195561]

>>22194996
wow the thread actually died after this LMAO changs BTFO

[Anonymous No.22195563]

>>22195482
>Evola is interesting but had no spiritual realization.
ridiculous claim

[Anonymous No.22195569]

I wonder how much they knew about Japan at that time. Indian and Tibetan orientalism was all the rage, but Japanese history was largely unknown I bet. He would’ve called the Tokugawa shogunate the peak Traditionalist state and the weeb-Traditionalist pipeline would’ve been cemented for eternity.

[Anonymous No.22195583]

>>22195563
He didn’t. By mid-life he had abandoned all of his previous spiritual pursuits (Buddhism, paganism, etc.) and was advocating for Traditionalism, but was himself uninitiated into any one Tradition. He may have became a secret Muslim like the rest of the Tradlarpers, but publicly, he never accepted any one Tradition. My guess is that he just couldn’t let go of Buddhist and pagan affinities.

[Anonymous No.22195610]

>>22195583
you don't have to be initiated into a tradition to achieve spiritual realization you fucking pseud.
he even talked about achieving spiritual realization in a few books. he usually frames it as 'a glimpse at transcendence'
>He didn't.
lmao okay man. you're a fraud

[Anonymous No.22195624]

>>22195610
If Traditionalism is correct then you do.

I don’t know why you people can’t accept that Evola was a mentally troubled nut job who made shit up as we went. We can all agree that some of his historical scholarship is good, but his mystical-theological-spiritual stuff is just nonsense.

[Anonymous No.22195630]

>>22195624
I exposed you
stop (You)ing me, you utter fraud

[Anonymous No.22195836]

>>22195630
Okay freak

[Anonymous No.22195861]

>>22194752
> the samurais went around doing whatever they wanted without accountability
That's a myth

[Anonymous No.22195881]

>>22195624
Why should I accept Guénon's take on this over Evola's not vice-versa? I typically see a lot of appeal to authority about Guénon writing on the subject first as if that somehow makes him automatically more correct.

[Anonymous No.22196472]

>>22195563
The problem is that a lot of what Evola describes as stemming from The Mother is necessary for spiritual realization, and one should not view it as lowly. Compassion in the context of immanence has its place and is immensely important in many world traditions. He also ignores how pagans worshipped trees as the inhabiting places of gods, and treating nature with reverence was integral to many of them. He has a complete hatred of nature as evident from multiple passages in Revolt. His approach to "transcendence" is very Abrahamic in tone.
I prefer Klages over Evola, but I do dislike Alfred Schuler's matriarchal views, which did rub a bit on Evola. I would agree Klages did have spiritual realization but not Evola at all. He was just a snobbish pseud who probably didn't even have unbroken patrilineal lineage to the Romans.
Anyways, Evolatards can get necked for all that I care. Getting tired of you faggots shitting up this board.

[Anonymous No.22196508]

>>22194670
Evola's favourite model for society hasn't existed for approximately 2500 years, probably more

[Anonymous No.22196530]

>>22196472
>get necked for all that I care
Tell me more about compassion.

[Anonymous No.22196537]

>>22194670
Retard, there was no slavery in India before the Muhammadan savages invaded it. And there was no "caste system" either before the British introduced it to divide and conquer Indians. India had the Varna system, not "muh caste system". The Varna system wasn't hereditary. Anyone could become a Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya or Shudra based on his/her talents, education and skills.

[Anonymous No.22196539]

>>22194670
This is completely false from start to finish, Evola never said this and you even give Poojeets too little credit in your eagerness to slander Evola.

What's wrong tranny? Hard day at the dilating office?

>>22194752
>Imperial japan is basically the same as tibet and india.
kek holy shit lmao rofl lol

[Anonymous No.22196898]

>>22196472
>which did rub a bit on Evola
which did rub a bit on Klages*

[Anonymous No.22196997]

>>22194670
>evola is retarded
This is not news. He's the smartest retarded person that has ever lived.

[Anonymous No.22197500]

>>22194670
>Evola's two favorite models of society were India and Tibet
No they weren't. Post a source. Rome was #1.

[Anonymous No.22197509]

Way too many faggot asian shudras itt

[Anonymous No.22197515]

>>22196537
Kek wtf is this garbage?

[Anonymous No.22197532]

>>22196472
He doesn't hate nature, that's an idiotic claim. Try reading his books apart from Revolt (which you're probably misreading).
>His approach to "transcendence" is very Abrahamic in tone.
How? Tone? Elaborate.

>>22195583
>By mid-life he had abandoned all of his previous spiritual pursuits (Buddhism, paganism, etc.) and was advocating for Traditionalism
You're an idiot. He hadn't "abandoned" anything, he wrote about topics that he was studying, he was into Traditionalism and writing about it since the 1920's, you retard.
>My guess
Is totally meaningless.

>>22195624
According to Guénon you had to be initiated in a regular lineage, but Evola and others contest this, and Guénon is just referring to what is Traditional, it could be different at a late stage in the kali yuga.

[Anonymous No.22197540]

>>22194670
>ruled by a pedophilac elite that treated their peasants, the majority of the population, as livestock.

how is this different from any modern government?

[Anonymous No.22197545]

>>22194670
He doesn't support any of the things you're falsely accusing him of. Why does he make you so upset that you have to go around making up lies about him? Are you worried that the "far right" is becoming more powerful?

[Anonymous No.22197577]

>>22196472
Who should I read to balance Evola out, the feminine to Evola's masculine? Or should some other set of authors be recommended entirely?

[Anonymous No.22197654]

>>22196537
>The Varna system wasn't hereditary.
There certainly was a hereditary element to it

You’re just an assblasted lowborn seething jeet

[Anonymous No.22197656]

>>22197577
Oscar Wilde

[Anonymous No.22198010]

>>22197577
Byron

[Anonymous No.22198070]

>>22197577
Not sure if this is what you're asking for but I enjoyed Anodea Judith's Wheels of Life, a book on chakras. She's a but woke-ish and new agey but I liked the info in her book.

[Anonymous No.22198195]

>>22194670
https://www.discord/
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[Anonymous No.22198306]

>>22197577
Of Cosmogonic Eros

[Anonymous No.22199447]

>>22194670
You read like a leftoid false flagger.
>Dalits, the majority of the population.
What is it with random dumbfucks and not understanding the motherfucking caste system?
Second, Evola did not care about modern India.
He liked India prior to the coming of christ.
A very VERY different place. Much less stagnant for one.