German Idealism is one giant Protestant cope

[Anonymous No.22193368]

[Anonymous No.22193387]

Masturbatory assertion in the absence of any development. A thread died for this.

[Anonymous No.22193408]

>>22193387
He’s right

[Anonymous No.22193415]

>>22193368
I don't understand how in 2023, you can still be an e-tradcath unless you are below the age of 18 and/or brown. And if that's the case, I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.22193420]

>>22193368
Yeah, time to move on and explore Italian Idealism.

[Anonymous No.22193517]

In the lack of an authentic tradition such as rc or eo they were forced into gnostic speculation...

[Anonymous No.22193551]

>>22193368
>I much prefer idiots idealism.
>all hail the infallible Pope!

[Anonymous No.22193570]

>refutes natural theology
Heh, nothing personal kid.

[Anonymous No.22193588]

>>22193570
he was only a minor setback. you forgot to watch Metaphysics Wars Episode V: The Metaphysicians Strike Back

[I V R I V S ࿇ N E M O !!GgBWHLRiayD No.22193662]

>>22193368


Hegel is the only one from amongst those knuckleheads who is worth reading —for, both: edification, and leisure; his works are Catholically oriented, not Protestantistic.

[Anonymous No.22193969]

>>22193662
*Kant, sorry typo

[Anonymous No.22193998]

>>22193368
I don’t know, Bulgakov and a lot of early 20th century Russian theology was very influenced by German idealism.

[I V R I V S ࿇ N E M O !!GgBWHLRiayD No.22194019]

>*Kant, sorry typo

[Anonymous No.22194023]

>>22193368
I don't know what that means because i'm retarded, but I don't like protestants so yes you are right

[Anonymous No.22194030]

>>22193368
>COPEnhauer

[Anonymous No.22194110]

>>22193368
Who's the best of them?

[Anonymous No.22194139]

>>22193368
You need to go further back. Christianity is one giant Roman slave cope.

[Anonymous No.22194263]

>>22193368
Schelling was Catholic tho, Fichte (at least up to 1800) was pretty much a deist, Kant was areligious and never went to church (although he had a preference for protestantism, but only on practical grounds, not theological ones). Of the 4 Hegel was the only genuinely protestant thinker

[Anonymous No.22194283]

>>22193420
Fascism and fascistic liberalism(elitism) are the true heirs of german idealism. Including Kant.

[Anonymous No.22194294]

>>22194283
how so?

[Anonymous No.22194295]

>>22194283
Pseud detected
>The movements that destroyed Europe were good actually

[Anonymous No.22194608]

>>22193420
I want to read Rosmini so bad bros

[Anonymous No.22194805]

>>22193420
Gramsci is the highest expression of Italian idealism

[Anonymous No.22194979]

>>22194805
Smart guy take to be honest senpai

[Anonymous No.22194980]

>>22194110
Schelling because he isn't a turbo autist and actually wants to respect the natural world, though it doesn't quite work

[Anonymous No.22194984]

Romanticism is strictly superior to idealism and any abstracted 'logical' model of the world

[Anonymous No.22194985]

>>22194980
Agreed

[Anonymous No.22194988]

>>22194984
You're right. Too bad that Romanticism was basically the artistic counterpart of philosophical Idealism.

[Anonymous No.22194999]

>>22194805
Why is he an idealist? Ive never read him, but ive heard this claim many times
>>22194979
Shelling was way more autistic (in a bad way) than Kant and Hegel, Fichte tops them all.

[Anonymous No.22195135]

>>22194999
>Why is he an idealist? Ive never read him, but ive heard this claim many times
Because he built his philosophy entirely upon Gentile

[Anonymous No.22195184]

>>22195135
Gentile>Croce>Evola>>>>>Gramsci

[Anonymous No.22195191]

>>22194999
Schelling is schizo. Fitche is autistic. Hegel is normie. Kant is onions. Novalis is king.

[Anonymous No.22195210]

>>22193662
>his works are Catholically oriented, not Protestantistic.
What? How?

[Anonymous No.22195213]

>>22195184
Evola mogs Gentile

[Anonymous No.22195259]

>>22195213
I have yet to read Evola's Absolute Individual because it is untranslated tho title and contents certainly intrigue however I find that Gentile was much more occult while actually occulting that occultism and furthermore has a much better grasp on Hegel and Idealism generally rather than possessing some sort of childish Nietzschean rebelliousness as per the Baron tho a lovable lil esotericist he is indeed.

[Anonymous No.22195286]

>>22195191
>>22195259
Incredibly based posts all around. God bless this thread.

[Anonymous No.22195963]

>>22193368
And that’s why it’s great

[Anonymous No.22197675]

bump

[Anonymous No.22197712]

>>22194999
>Why is he an idealist? Ive never read him, but ive heard this claim many times
He modified the pure materialism of Marx where base economic forces determine everything to introduce ideology and culture into an account of how history and class struggle develops.

[Anonymous No.22197744]

>>22195213
Heidegger mogs Evola. Evola is just an Italian German Idealist with a penchant for right-wing beliefs and a love of the occult

[Anonymous No.22197746]

>>22197744
>Evola is just an Italian German Idealist
is this true?

[Anonymous No.22197779]

>>22197744
>Heidegger mogs Evola
laughable
Heidegger is a fraud

[Anonymous No.22197893]

>>22194019
who are you replying to, crazy person.

[Anonymous No.22198078]

>>22194283
There is LEGITIMATELY nothing wrong with fascism in a vacuum and I am tired of pretending there is. Franco, Salazar, and Pinochet were all net-benefits for their countries, and even Mussolini was booting Italy in a decent direction before he had the bad fortune of falling in with Hitler.

Nazism is a deficient and decrepit mutation of fascism that was, correctly, stomped out of existence. But fascism in and of itself has yet to be properly refuted and has a perfectly respectable win/loss column as far as governments go. It's got at least as good of a track record as democratic republicanism.

[Anonymous No.22198085]

>>22198078
Franco was an opportunist juntaist and Pinochet was a puppet. The real heroes of South America were Peron and Allende:
https://counter-currents.com/2014/12/kerry-boltons-peron-and-peronism/

National Socialism was just Germany's way. Evola's short book or essay, Notes on the Third Reich, is a good unbiased overview of it. Evola is overall critical of volkisch philosophy without a metaphysical basis because it tends to lapse into materialism etc., but even he can't deny the wonders achieved by the NSDAP regime. It basically achieved Marx's dream of a communist society within Germany in 10 years.

[Anonymous No.22198443]

Gramsci >>>>>>>>>>>>> Marx

[Anonymous No.22198457]

>>22197712
That's pretty boring, I hoped idealism here wasn't meant in the marxian sense (as in, as the pre-eminence of the structure over the base). I hoped you were going to tell me that Gramsci was a fullblown idealist in the Berleleyan/Fichtian/Hegelian sense.

[Anonymous No.22198465]

>>22198457
Gramsci is a Marxian who removed all the retarded dirt from Marx. Absolutely based if you really think about it.

Also, read the Prison Notebooks.

[Anonymous No.22198479]

>>22198465
No, I want to read metaphysics, atm I don't really care about this stuff

[Anonymous No.22198496]

>>22198457
>I hoped you were going to tell me that Gramsci was a fullblown idealist in the Berleleyan/Fichtian/Hegelian sense.
Oh he absolutely was not. He was still a thoroughgoing Marxist, just one who moderated it with some influence from Croce.

[Anonymous No.22198804]

>>22197746
Could have been true. Because before going very much into his early pagan stage, he wanted to write a book on his own system called Magical Idealism.

[Anonymous No.22198963]

>>22198479
Then read Heidegger and Severino. Idealists are not metaphysicians.