/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22158234]

Is it just me or is he a charlatan?
He doesn't actively engage in Marxist critique of the political economy to actually understand what's going on, or how it fits in a Hegalian system.

Even Žižek who is a leftist shills for conservative people like Chesterton because he is intellectually honest.

If Engels predicted WW2 (not just WW1) in the 1880's or so then shouldn't he at least engage with the material?

[Anonymous No.22158238]

I miss when he was still a university professor.

[Anonymous No.22158242]

>>22158234
He's on a steady downfall.

[Anonymous No.22158275]

This is a kind of dark thought but I feel like if he had actually died during the benzo coma he would have been remembered much more fondly as a prophetic maverick. Him surviving it means there's more of his "content" to consoom but he just doesn't have the same insight or edge he did five years ago.

[Anonymous No.22158280]

>>22158275
He just rehashes some vanilla ideas over and over and over again, by this time he should have read the Grundrisse and actually engaged in fruitful critique like Böhm-Bawerk, instead he still peddles the post modern neo marxist boogyman and "jealousy" being the driver of anyone who criticizes technicalities of systems.

[Anonymous No.22158307]

>>22158234
He hasn't even read Das Kapital, his only source of Marx is The Communist Manifest, which Žižek exposed to the world in their debate. Yes, Peterson is a charlatan, while his intentions may have been honest and sincere - regardless of how misguided they were initially - clearly since he is in the pockets of conservatives and is being promoted by the Vatican Church, it has become apparent that he is now trying to push a ideological drivel and is using his popularity to muddy the waters of public discourse and to continue the money squeezing business of his.

Gabor Mate is the superior Canadian intellectual, and a person like Sam Keen is a lot better at what Peterson is trying to do, but ultimately fails as he juggles several fields he has no expertise on and spouts utter nonsense.

[Anonymous No.22158338]

>>22158307
Will check the two you mentioned
It's interesting that the Church under the current papacy is supporting him so much, because the Jesuits actively protected Marxian and Gramscian works in Argentina during the right-wing Junta.

[Anonymous No.22158347]

>>22158234
I don't like this shabbos goy, but I respect him for not bothering to read his sworn enemies. This idea that we must argue and entertain different ideas to find the truth is idiotic.

[Anonymous No.22158352]

>>22158338
>It's interesting that the Church under the current papacy is supporting him so much, because the Jesuits actively protected Marxian and Gramscian works in Argentina during the right-wing Junta.
It's also funny how he rails on and on about Stalin, Soviet communists, Mao, etc., but never once mentions the crimes of the Church, etc. Also his whole Marx and postmodernism angle and the fact that he knows little to nothing about both.

[Anonymous No.22158359]

>>22158307
>he is in the pockets of conservatives
He's in the pockets of the jews. You're in 4chan, nigger. You don't need to use euphemisms here.

[Anonymous No.22158364]

>>22158359
Why do you people boil everything down to "LE JEWS"?

[Anonymous No.22158365]

>>22158364
Because they are behind most things, but Peterson in particular is literally in the pockets of the jews.

[Anonymous No.22158369]

>>22158365
They're not, stop boiling everything down to the boogeyman of your choice as you're distorting the truth. If only things were as simple as you lot make them out to be.

[Anonymous No.22158375]

>>22158234
Even in the early days when he wasn't famous, its fucking weird for a psychology professor to give so much unsolicited life advice on a regular basis in lectures that are supposed to follow some curriculum. He was obviously a troubled man from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.22158392]

>>22158369
>They're not
Who is it then? It's biological jews and spiritual jews. Liberalism is inherently a jewed ideology. So is communism though.

[Anonymous No.22158398]

>>22158392
>biological and spiritual Jews
Do you not see the idiocy in such an opinion?

[Anonymous No.22158404]

>>22158398
Obviously not. Why don't you explain it to me?

[Anonymous No.22158410]

>>22158234
clean your room and wash your penis

[Anonymous No.22158414]

>>22158404
We live in a universe run by chaotic forces that don't care about us, and somehow you've formed a worldview that says Jews are behind everything, at fault for all the ills of the world and are leading the puppet show we're all a part of. Don't you see how ridiculous this sounds and how all too convenient such a belief and explanation is? You can't deal with the nature of reality fundamentally being ruderless, that nobody is in control and you're trying to form a worldview that will shield you from that fact as you cannot bear that burden.

[Anonymous No.22158417]

>>22158414
NTA but I agree, Jews just latch onto the wounds and make them worse, but if we exterminated them then some Anglos would take their place.

[Anonymous No.22158420]

>>22158414
>I think, therefore I have enemies; I have enemies, therefore I am
t. Carl Schmitt's diaries

Jews are my enemies. Simply as. And anyone who is my enemy is therefore also a jew.
>>22158417
>Anglos would take their place.
Spiritual jews.

[Anonymous No.22158425]

>>22158420
based

[Anonymous No.22158531]

lmao

[Anonymous No.22158576]

>says something
>*cries*
He seems very emotionally unstable, I don't know what all the hype is about.

[Anonymous No.22158584]

>>22158234
>up yours, woke moralists! We’ll see who cancels who!

He’s so over

[Anonymous No.22158610]

What you have to understand about Peterson is he approaches everything as either a college lecturer or a psychologist. He's not really talking about political theory, because he doesn't give a shit. He's talking about the "Marxists" who keep showing up in his classes, or at his office.
And, I mean, he's right about them. They are all a bunch of spoiled, overly comfortable first world faggots, who probably need to pull themselves together, before turning to some ideology or another to try to deal with their emotional quibbles. We've literally all met those people, right?

[Anonymous No.22158612]

>>22158307
The zizek debate was a joke and a waste of time. Peterson and the audience came for a formal debate about ideas, Zizek came to question the sincerity of the dialect itself. Meanwhile both of them were so far removed from Marx’s actual ideas that the debate felt pointless.

[Anonymous No.22158618]

>>22158584
the video that edited his rant as a bioshock antagonist audio diary was pretty funny though

[Anonymous No.22158626]

He is mega cringe when it comes to politics especially after he traded his university tenure for shekels at the DailyWire. Benzos fucked him. Still I really like lectures on Genesis on YouTube. The Exodus series is on DW and I might consider buying a subscription if it’s good.

[Anonymous No.22158636]

>>22158626
>Benzos fucked him
he fucked himself. preaching about responsibility to young men and ending up fleeing your country to go comatose and receive experimental treatment because your first doctors were exercising their oh-so-important personal responsibility not to turn him into a degenerate barhead.

[Anonymous No.22158638]

>>22158234
He doesn’t have to because that’s not his field. He’s a psychologist first and foremost

[Anonymous No.22158714]

>>22158610
>We've literally all met those people, right?
Yes.

[Anonymous No.22158715]

>>22158280
Agreed. He's way too surface level and now he's just a shell.
>>22158612
I enjoyed the coping from the jp Reddit after.

[Anonymous No.22158716]

>>22158398
I accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.22158721]

>>22158234
He's an extremely ignorant guy who seeks mediatic notoriety more than actual greatness.

I always thought he doesn't deserve all the threads that you dedicated to him throughout time. Big mistake.

[Anonymous No.22158763]

>>22158414
Why are Jews disproportionately found in high places even when low IQ?

[Anonymous No.22158766]

>>22158763
They are not low iq. On average they are much smarter than every other ethnicity. Even Peterson, who is hardly woke, admits this much.

[Anonymous No.22158767]

>>22158721
Greatness, through being read by only a handful of autists? We saw how well his first book did. Between intellectual depth and culural impact compromises must be made.

[Anonymous No.22158772]

>>22158766
>Admits
You never looked into the studies. You just took it because he says it. He made that myth. You're retarded and probably don't know any Jews.

[Anonymous No.22158774]

>>22158766
You've been found out. Rabbi

[Anonymous No.22158779]

>>22158767
He won't be remembered in 20 years.

[Anonymous No.22158782]

>>22158766
This. It's hilarious how the alt-right still has such a hate boner for jews, even after one of their thought leaders admitted that jews are in positions of powers because they are smarter. I guess right wingers don't even believe in their own experts kek.

[Anonymous No.22158790]

>>22158414
Yeah I'm sure it's just pure chaotic chance that leads Peterson to have dinner with Bibi and refuse to address 200 Years Together after recommending the Gulag Archipelago

[Anonymous No.22158809]

>>22158782
Peterson consistently takes an opposing stance to the alt-right at every chance he gets.
He has described his motivation as attempting to prevent a backlash from young White men.
You'd have to be retarded to consider him an alt-right thought leader.

[Anonymous No.22158810]

>>22158234
>in the 1880's or so
>or so
go back to your youtube videos

[Anonymous No.22158817]

>>22158766
>>22158782
Samefag

[Anonymous No.22158821]

>>22158817
Seethe goy

[Anonymous No.22158824]

>>22158809
Are you seriously trying to tell me THIS Jordan Peterson isn't alt-right? Okay? You're completely deluded, dude. Maybe you should pay more attention to his actions, and less to the things he says to whitewash those actions. And to be clear I do think transgenderism is getting a bit out of hand with young people, but this guy clearly doesn't give a fuck about the health of trans people. He just spites hate because that's the alt-right thing to do.

[Anonymous No.22158842]

>>22158821
You're on 4chan. Most Jews are low IQ. You're one of them.

[Anonymous No.22158854]

>>22158824
>And to be clear I do think transgenderism is getting a bit out of hand with young people, but this guy clearly doesn't give a fuck about the health of trans people. He just spites hate because that's the alt-right thing to do.

Go back

[Anonymous No.22158866]

>>22158824
/r/whoasked

[Anonymous No.22158874]

>>22158854
Believe me, I wish I could, but in r/literature we are still protesting the API changes, so we will have to tolerate each other until that's resolved.

[Anonymous No.22158955]

>>22158874
At least you are honest about being a fag.

[Anonymous No.22159104]

>>22158824
Calling out the absurdity of women cutting off their own breasts in the name of some fucked up ideology is "alt-right" and "hate"?

[Anonymous No.22159118]

>>22158234
>hegelianism
You have to be fucking kidding me.

[Anonymous No.22159138]

>>22158824
The "alt-right" is based on white identitarianism and anti-semitism, two things Peterson is explicitly working against.

[Anonymous No.22159178]

>>22158234
He didnt get to his position by being right, he got there by being willing to stand up to criticism. I wouldnt say hes a fraud, but hes a product of a system that clamps down on thought; you cant expect a high end product from a hostile environment.

[Anonymous No.22159233]

>>22159178
First part is wrong. He got to the position by being right more than being wrong. There's no such thing as Mr Always Right. Although him standing up to woke cancel mobs pushed him to stardom. Normal people see the cancer in woke mobs and someone standing up to illiberal actions/beliefs are championed by people naturally.

[Anonymous No.22159401]

A bit funny, this thread clearly shows even before several anons admitted it severe reddit takes. One plebbitor calling Peterson alt-right is so downright absurd, I refuse to honor his post with a (you). Peterson hates the alt-right, and has made it quite clear he is fighting against them. The reason retarded plebbitors call him alt-right is he simultaneously hates the Marxist/Post Modernist mentality, along with the clear mental illness it goes hand in hand with. Once again, plebbitors are unable to see any issue except in a black/white dichotomy, a strong indication of low intelligence.

[Anonymous No.22159422]

>>22158234
>is anyone that isn't a Marxist a charlatan?
You should not lie to yourself or others that you're capable of thinking.

[Anonymous No.22159513]

>>22158790
>refuse to address 200 Years Together after recommending the Gulag Archipelago
I seriously think that he never actually read full Gulag Archipelago, maybe an abridged version or, even more likely, a quick summary. And I'm absolutely certain that he never even heard of 200 Years Together before people started baiting him with it.

[Anonymous No.22159942]

>>22159513
What leads you to believe these things?

[Anonymous No.22159976]

>>22158234
Did anyone listen to the JBP-Lindsay podcast? Been a while since I bothered with Peterson and it's got me seeing his blatant hypocrisy again.
The stuff anout Cain and Able and not complaining about the ill begotten arrangement of the world coupled with his habbit of complaining about the world really smacks me in the face each time.
t. Moderate right wing classic liberal

[Anonymous No.22160061]

>>22159976
There is no such thing as classic liberal. Leave that retarded term in 2016 where it already should have been laughed out of society.

Obviously Peterson is mentally deranged. It will be fun to watch whatever he does next because transgender rights will continue to advance. His dogshit Globalist Christian Arab backed ARC project is dumb as hell, and he seems to be angrier everyday.

Here in Canada he is deep in the fingers and has lost all acceptance lol

[Anonymous No.22160074]

>>22158234
he's a habitual drug user who believes in a religion which presents persecution as a sign of messianism.

i.e. he belongs in psych ward not in public to be made fun of.

[Anonymous No.22160076]

>>22159138
Peterson was used by the Zionists in Canada explicitly as a gate keeper for our ascending alt-right and steered young men back to Neoliberal Globalist Capitalism and Zionism. It was disgusting to witness

[Anonymous No.22160092]

>>22159233
>Although him standing up to woke cancel mobs pushed him to stardom.
I still think it was intentional, like the media pushed Trump by talking about him every day and making him the popular underdog; to associate a whole bunch of emerging prescient things with one easily necked figurehead - except it never works properly.

[Anonymous No.22160098]

>>22158234
He’s just a prof who had a hot take on pronouns. Profs aren’t necessarily that well-read or even smart outside their field.

[Anonymous No.22160156]

huge attention whore. will be remembered for writing a self help book before going on a drug binge that almost killed him

[Anonymous No.22160169]

>>22158307
>>22158359
>>22158364
Figures like Peterson or Shapiro are just used as retaining walls so people don't fall into more radical ideologies. It's not a coincidence both are huge Zionists. Of course, they're in the pockets of the Jews. Denying it is retarded.

[Anonymous No.22160177]

>>22158242
>second worldwide bestselling book
>multiple sold out international lecture tours
>online interview series that garners millions of views per week
>started up a university
>creating a counterbalance to WEF
What a "steady downfall," kek.

[Anonymous No.22160183]

>>22160061
>There is no such thing as classic liberal
Let's not play this name game friend, I won't have the interest for it. you could have asked me to clarify, but you didn't.
Everything else you responded with was outside no sequitur, I was particularly interested in the moral system he promotes based on the Cain and Able story. Yes, I know he is deranged but I would like to keep the criticism based on why his ideas are contradictory, not his egomania or drug habbit.

[Anonymous No.22160199]

>>22159942
>personal failure and allowing resentment to become the defining aspect of my character.

[Anonymous No.22160211]

>>22158234
Reminder that the people triggered by Peterson are pathetic.

>libtard /lit/
Seethes that Peterson turns them into reactionaries by pointing out their bullshit.
>pseud /lit/
Thinks cynically dunking on mass media meant for a general audience is a sign of intelligence.
>chud lit
Thinks he's part of a Jewish conspiracy preventing them from having sex.
>tranny /lit/
Thinks he's a "literal nazi."

[Anonymous No.22160230]

>Christianity is when you are mean to people you don't like
Just like how Jesus wanted it to be

[Anonymous No.22160233]

>>22160169
You can't deny it of Peterson, he has admitted as much himself.

[Anonymous No.22160235]

>>22160183
How is he hypocritical for pointing out the problems in the world as he sees them? He's not blaming the world for his own problems is he?

He has talked a lot about how the Cain and Abel story is probably the most profound story in existence. He has learned how being mad at the world for your lot in life never helps anything, it always makes things worse. He talks about this in he Stephen Fry interview.

[Anonymous No.22160238]

>>22160211
>Peterson are pathetic
Literally the opposite: Pathos refers to emotionalism and emotional thinking - no self-control; Peterson has burst into tears on numerous occasions, is a drug addict, seeks glory in persecution, etc.

Reminder that people obviously in the wrong and lacking self-control to admit this, with humility, are most likely to project their own guilt onto others, thereby revealing their deepest awareness of those points of guilt.

>(your list)
why do you guys insist on leaving out the most common one? We were forced to hear about him endlessly for years and got sick of his name, voice, face and the crabs, old boots and jellyfish that got caught in the net of that endless media trawl. Literally the same with Trump.

[Anonymous No.22160242]

>>22158307
Eh Gabor Mate is almost a leftist Peterson. He has some good ideas but occasionally reaches the wrong conclusions and tarnishes his own reputation with retarded partisanship

[Anonymous No.22160245]

>>22158234
he knows nothing about marxism beyond the fox news american boomer conservative interpretation of it. his comments on marxism are just expressing the old cultural marxism conspiracy in more flowery language

[Anonymous No.22160247]

>>22160238
>he's a drug addict
>his daughter is a slut
>messyoffice.jpeg
>you don't have a dad
>wash your penis
>you're Jordan/Mikhala
>he cried in public
>he associates with Jews
>controlled opposition
Ad homs that distract from his arguments are all they have. The sad thing is that they're the same ones over and over and have been for years. The fun thing is that it's easy to point to where his credability comes from and the positive things he's been doing for years and make these people seethe.

[Anonymous No.22160252]

mods plz doo your jobs

[Anonymous No.22160254]

>>22160238
>NO YOU!
Kek.

[Anonymous No.22160259]

>>22160235
He makes the connection that Cain was jealous and he needed to make sacrifices to get right with God or something like this.
His problem with the world, his problem, is "bloody Blackrock" and the consumerization of the University. He has problems with this ill-begotten arrangement of the world. Yet he does not seem to want to make the necessary sacrifices to help himself and by extension areange the world in a better way.

Why is it not a good response to say to him, Jordan, the University is not the problem, there is nothing by definition wrong with it. You have to look inwards to see what kind of sacrifice is demanded by God.

[Anonymous No.22160263]

>>22160252
>crying to mods
Go back.

[Anonymous No.22160273]

>>22160263
NO YUO GO BACK!!!

[Anonymous No.22160278]

>>22160211
>Thinks he's part of a Jewish conspiracy preventing them from having sex.
Not really a conspiracy.

[Anonymous No.22160281]

>>22160273
Imagine thinking there's anything more Reddit than crying to the mods over Jordan Peterson.

[Anonymous No.22160282]

>>22160247
re: drug addict
That's not an ad hominem, that means his brain is broken and he's not in control of himself.

>seethe
oh yes just ignore the eality that we're just sick of hearing about him, i'm sure the tactic of pretending people are his 'enemies' for your political reasoning is a successful thing for you to do, whilst you're waiting for orders from that drug addict who thinks he's a potato or whatever.

>>22160254
>>people who hate him for fucking a dog are jealous
>but he fucked a dog
>NO YOU FUCKED A DOG
that's some strong dissonance

[Anonymous No.22160284]

>>22160278
>Delusional rationalization/disorganized thinking:
There are facts about the world. For example, that media manipulates people, Jews work in media, and psychologists study the mind. However, what a delusional person does is take such facts and use them to confirm a specific narrative (this is known as being selectively coherent). The elements of the narrative aren't actually proven by the facts but the delusional person (or ideologue) confuses their truth with the truth of their narrative. For example: Peterson is a psychologist (fact), associates with Jews (fact), and works in media (fact); therefore he is a skilled manipulator and part of a conspiracy headed by Jews. (This is the delusional rationalization part). The facts don't prove the narrative yet if you look you'll notice they are what is carrying the weight of the argument being made by people who mentally adhere to the narrative--if you deny the narrative these ideologues will confuse this with denying the facts. (That's the disordered thinking part).

Basically, the dangerous thing about paranoid narratives is that they have the appearance of being logically consistent within themselves and noticing the sleight of hand that takes place between the facts and the narrative isn't always easy to do. However, it's quite easy to see why certain narratives are simply absurd (e.g. looking at the advanced teachings of a cult versus those they use to hook people in).

Peterson isn't the crescendo of a multi-millenia conspiracy headed by a cabal of Jews who want you to not have sex. You haven't figured it all out and you aren't interpreting 5D chess. What you are doing is building a selectively coherent narrative based on truisms and confusing that they necessarily connect to your version of reality. If you find yourselves doing this seek professional help.

[Anonymous No.22160291]

>>22160177
>>creating a counterbalance to WEF
Oh sweet summer child...

[Anonymous No.22160296]

>>22160281
They used to delete these threads, man...

[Anonymous No.22160299]

>>22160284
Yes, he has dinner with Israel's PM and talks about stopping young men from "anti-semitism" but he's definitely not a Zionist, dude, you're crazy and please stop noticing things.

[Anonymous No.22160301]

>>22160282
>>22160291
>>22160296
In regard to the nonsense that Peterson is against online privacy:
>he isn't saying anonymity on the internet shouldn't exist
>he isn't even saying the option for anonymity should be taken away on the specific websites to which he's referring
>he is putting forward the idea for it to be debated in the public sphere
>he is correct when he says anonymous accounts incentivise trolling (e.g. memeflags)
>segregation isn't a perfect solution, that's why he is encouraging a discussion, but it is a better option than what is currently used (e.g. shadowbanning comments)
Remember: Peterson's critics (be they libtards, trannies, conspiracy schizos, etc.) are always disingenuous and will mischaracterize what he actually says while making baseless ad hominem attacks toward his character.

A common example: they will characterize severe withdrawal from a doctor prescribed medication as a character defining drug addiction and will conveniently ignore that immediately after he completed/published his second worldwide bestselling book, organized and completed a sold out international lecture tour, started an interview series viewed by millions, published multiple articles, etc. In short: you can't trust such people and you should research it for yourself.

[Anonymous No.22160304]

>>22160301
Huh, thanks.

[Anonymous No.22160310]

>>22160301
what?
>he's a drug addict
>>no he's not against online privacy

the fuck is wrong with you petrsen bronies xd

[Anonymous No.22160311]

>>22160299
>>22160304
>>22160310
>clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
>academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
>research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
>university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
>assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
>accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
inb4
>he's a drug addict tho!
>his office was messy once!
>er...you don't have a dad!
>er...wash your dick!
>his daughter is a slut!
>he likes the Jews!
>he's controlled opposition!
Still triggering trannies who don't like the truth, libtards who propagandize, racists he won't associate with, and pseuds who can't tell the difference between a media personality and real life

[Anonymous No.22160316]

>>22158234
Jay has said both good and bad things about Peterson. Jay has commended him for at least trying to move in the direction of Christianity, but he also has criticized Peterson's psychological metaphor understanding of God, his classical liberalism, and his weak philosophical arguments.
Jay also has made fun of Shapiro for being a normalfag tier cuckservative and vaccine shill.

[Anonymous No.22160317]

based peterson record straightener, not a big peterson fan but i do like that he upsets trannies

[Anonymous No.22160318]

He blames the fish for getting sick when the tank is full of dirty water. That includes himself, and it drove him to insanity.

[Anonymous No.22160328]

>>22160311
His a charlatan when he's speaking out of his field, especially politics (e.g. Israel) but also his self-help garbage.

[Anonymous No.22160329]

>>22160301
Lmao this is the funniest post of all. Let's just have a good laugh and end it alright?

[Anonymous No.22160331]

>>22160311
One can agree with some of Jordan Peterson's points while disagreeing with him on other things. A nuanced approach is needed here.
We can appreciate Peterson for the goof things that he has said such as taking a stand against trannies and so on, while also criticizing his empiricist and liberal presuppositions and his weak grasp of metaphysics and epistemology.

[Anonymous No.22160334]

>>22158234
>Is it just me or
what's the point of phrasing it this way?

[Anonymous No.22160337]

>>22160317
>>22160328
>>22160329
>>22160331
>be me
>literal neonazi skinhead with swastika tat on my forehead
>"He's Just In Argentina" written in Fraktur font on my t-shirt
>walking to store to buy some smetana for my wife
>enjoying the cool crisp autumn air
>listening to jonathan bowden speeches on my headphones
>see small dot appear on the horizon
>the dot gets larger and larger
>it's a libtard, running full speed
>directly towards me
>he reaches me and comes to a halt like he hit a sprung floor
>gestures at me to take my headphones off
>i do
>immediately starts telling me specific timestamps of jordan peterson videos from 8 years ago where peterson said having a dad is important and you should wash your penis
>tell him i dont understand
>continuous babbling and screeching about how stupid jordan peterson is and how father figures and washing your foreskin are dog whistles for white supremacy
>ask him what any of this has to do with me
>he won't answer, just keeps saying jordan peterson is a nazi
>is a nazi, is a nazi
>tell him i'm not sure about that, i don't know much about peterson but i'm a nazi and peterson doesn't seem like one
>he just keeps going
>now he's telling me about some tweet peterson made in 2016
>now he shows me a picture of him sitting in a messy office
>now he tells me peterson isn't a real professor and isn't qualified to speak on gender v. sex
>he asks me: "did you know that peterson used to shit his pants when he was a baby?"
>i open my mouth to say something but--
>he tells me the daily wire is the daily stormer lite
>ben shapiro is a nazi too
>i ask him what he even means by nazi? (i am a nazi)
>show him my "Meine Ehre heißt Treue" dagger and himmler rookie card
>he won't answer
>anger in his eyes--he starts pulling out cards with screenshots of jordan peterson making stupid faces on them
>the word "NAZI" is written in red ink across peterson's forehead
>i turn away
>I run

[Anonymous No.22160338]

>>22160331
>goof things
*good things

[Anonymous No.22160342]

>>22160311
All of those "good points" aside from the last are just average careerist clout-seeking relative to his field. You seem to be the one with a problem distinguishing that as a public figure, his public persona is rightfully the aspect being judged.

[Anonymous No.22160343]

>>22160311
And you are accurately characterizing the number of people he has helped? Or is it rose colored glasses? How exactly would you know the amount?

[Anonymous No.22160347]

Why do so many anons think that one must either viciously hate Jordan Peterson, or literally worship him?
Why can't anons handle nuance?
Peterson is right about some things and wrong about other things.

[Anonymous No.22160348]

>>22160342
>>22160343
They say you can judge someone by the company they keep (inb4 "JEWS THO!") but with Peterson you may judge him by the company he does not keep: ideological libtards, reactionary racists, seething trannies, and vapid pseuds. These barely human toxins have had to recycle the same 5 ad homs, pathetically doing so for years now, because they're incapable of actually understanding what he has to say--they're too far gone into ideological possession (and retardation) to even recognize when they're being disingenuous.

So please (you queer amalgamation of libtard, chud, and tranny) just keep doing what you're doing. You can be assured that Peterson keep doing what he's doing.

[Anonymous No.22160349]

>>22160318
Well said, see my point about Cain and Able above. The guy is the epitome of do as I say not as I do.

[Anonymous No.22160354]

>>22160348
these are copypastas
I have seen them before

[Anonymous No.22160360]

>>22160347
>Peterson: it would be productive to involve men in the conversation about violence against women in a way that doesn't label masculinity as inherently negative
>Libtard: so you're saying in order to make men care about rape women have to be returned to the status of men's property
>Peterson: the rise of identitarianism is linked to reactionary politics that sublimate personal resentment into collectivistic extremism
>Chud: so you're saying white people don't have group interests and therefore shouldn't exist
>Peterson: transgender ideology specifically targets a group of people likely to be confused and open to mental pathologies via social contagion--we shouldn't give hormones to children let alone surgically mutilate minors
>Tranny: so you're literal nazi saying we're a disease and we should be exterminated like one
>Peterson: anonymity increases the likelihood of pathological behavior so perhaps one way to alleviate the negative repurcussions of its overall influence would be to segregate accounts on these specific widely used social media websites--it's definitely better than secret and selective control of the public narrative as it exists now
>/pol/tard: so you're saying you want everyone everwhere to be tied to whatever they say and do at all times...I'm a freedom fighter [goes to another thread to post about AOC's asshole while writing "nig*er" 50 times]
Basically, Peterson will touch a nerve by simply pointing out something that is blatantly ignored in the way an ideological group frames an issue. He exposes ideological blindspots in a simple and straightforward way; this leads to the fellow travellors of whichever idea is being discussed having a breakdown and exposing themselves. He's valuable as a media personality if even for that reason alone

[Anonymous No.22160361]

>>22159942
His extremely shallow reading of Solzhenitsyn.

>>22160199
I don't hate Peterson, but sometimes he does the things that media people do.

[Anonymous No.22160363]

Unfortunately, Jordan Peterson supports some type of feminism (first wave or whatever) and believes in evolution.
These are both anti-Christian beliefs.

[Anonymous No.22160369]

>>22160360
stop spamming these annoying copypastas

[Anonymous No.22160374]

>>22160354
Do you want a gold star sticker, autist?

[Anonymous No.22160378]

>>22160311
>>he's a drug addict tho!
>>his office was messy once!
>>er...you don't have a dad!
>>er...wash your dick!
>>his daughter is a slut!
>>he likes the Jews!
>>he's controlled opposition!
You're really having a hard time dealing with the simple fact that he is a longtime user of Benzodiazepines meaning that his mind is literally severed from reality, enabling disassociation and paranoid ideation (i.e. delusional solipsism, hyper-egotism) among other things.

I don't know exactly when or for how long he's been abusing this recreational drug, maybe he was given it for handling the pressure of being in the public spotlight, but his mind is swiss cheese; 'hence' the emotionalistic train-wreck, poor ecsions without thinking of consequences, online delusions (lol snap, his fans and you do this a lot)to minimize and blot-out incoming feedback which is "not wanted" and the spinning of that feedback into a persecution fantasy.

My point, having only mentioned his drug addiction, was that his opinion or actions can be trusted as much as a junkie. How do you feel about his drag-act in Israel, sitting next to a laughing Shapiro and Nitay? I'm just saying, you're willing to let it go when he's robbed you once, fine i guess, so what will he do next?

[Anonymous No.22160379]

Peterson also has an extremely gnostic interpretation of Genesis.
Gnosticism is of the devil.

[Anonymous No.22160380]

>>22160369
Stop writing the same shit over and over and they'll no longer be necessary and effective.

[Anonymous No.22160387]

>>22160380
You are refusing to engage with the reasonable and correct criticisms of Peterson such as >>22160363
>>22160347
>>22160331

[Anonymous No.22160393]

>>22160361
>You should read Solzhenitsyn.
>No not THAT one!

[Anonymous No.22160398]

>>22160378
>wife had cancer, being attacked by international media, daughter having marriage problems, careers in jeopardy, people casing his neighborhood and putting up flyers
>doctor prescribes medication that was once handed out like candy and has been shunned only in the last few years
>severe withdrawal symptoms
>gets misdiagnosed and can't get treatment he wants (Canadian healthcare, kek)
"NOOOOOO! THIS IS A CHARACTER DEFINING DOWNWARD SPIRAL INTO ADDICTION! YOU HAVE TO PAUSE THE RECORD ON 2018 AND IGNORE EVERYTHING HES ACCOMPISHED SINCE!"

Sure retard.

[Anonymous No.22160410]

>>22160398
By refusing to engage with reasonable and correct criticisms of Peterson and treating him as like an infallible god, you are as irrational and simple minded as the ones who obsessively hate Peterson.

[Anonymous No.22160425]

>>22160410
Yeah, not knowing how to even define the feminism you're labeling him with and being offended he accepts evolution is "valid criticism." Fuck off, retard.

[Anonymous No.22160434]

>>22160398
as I said I don't know how long he's been on it for, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's been on it on and off for decades. His personal crusade which got him his first attention was phenomenally ill-considered.

You don't do dumbass shit like that unless you're cracked out. And if you're using his wife as an excuse lol .. eh sure, normal response to grief, dressing up in a purple thong and sucking cock on the street.

[Anonymous No.22160435]

>>22160425
Feminism is demonic. It is a subversion of the natural order of things created by God.
Evolution is a Judeo-Masonic deception. Many in the Orthodox church have said this since the 19th century. Your irrational anger when Peterson is criticized is irrelevant. The truth is above your emotions.
https://youtu.be/Y0sdPLJO3cE

[Anonymous No.22160459]

>>22160435
Why do you believe the Orthodox church over evolutionary scientists? I ask that in good faith.

[Anonymous No.22160468]

>>22160434
>I don't know how long he's been on it for
He was prescribed it by a doctor in 2016. He had a severe withdrawal reaction which is one of the reasons benzodiazepines, which were handed out like candy up until about 5 years ago, are now rarely prescribed.
>His personal crusade which got him his first attention was phenomenally ill-considered.
That's your opinion and not a fact. It's also wrong.
>don't do dumbass shit like that unless you're cracked out
It wasn't dumb. He spoke out at a protest being lead by a bunch of retards outside of the building where his lectures were held. I think his office was in there too (and that building is a common place for student protests).
>if you're using his wife as an excuse lol
Stopped reading there. Again, the best thing about Peterson is that he filters people who aren't worthy of association.

[Anonymous No.22160471]

>>22158234
He's an airport-nicknack-shop-self-help-book writer that made his work a little spicy by asserting that men are men and women are women and sprinkling in some Jung, Campbell, Old Testament, and Nietzsche so that his books weren't 100% platitudinous drivel like the ones they shared a shelf with. It's not surprising that him and his family have now shown themselves to be total fuck-ups nor is it shocking that he is an inconsequential intellectual. I don't understand why you would read him instead of just reading Jung, Nietzsche, or Campbell.

[Anonymous No.22160483]

>>22160471
>>pseud /lit/
>Thinks cynically dunking on mass media meant for a general audience is a sign of intelligence. (>>22160211)

[Anonymous No.22160497]

>>22160348
I remember when he got that salafi muslim to his podcast. People criticized him for giving the guy a platform, not being confrontational enough and so on.
Fast forward now he has Netanyahu on and the other side does the same bitching.
You can criticize his knowledge on certain topic but never his integrity

[Anonymous No.22160512]

>>22160468
>. Again, the best thing about Peterson is that he filters people who aren't worthy of association.
That's called cognitive impairment. As I said,
"online delusions (lol snap, his fans and you do this a lot)to minimize and blot-out incoming feedback which is "not wanted" and the spinning of that feedback into a persecution fantasy."

i.e. not living in reality

>his wife
>>stopped reading there.
Why? What was triggering for you about that? You brought up his wife as an excuse for his drug habit.

Maybe the thing I should have said in the first place was this: okay so you acknowledge that (the points about his drug addiction) are true after all, so knowing this why are you defending Peterson 'today'? The today Peterson is not the original Peterson, right?

We could both like the guy before he did the fucked up death spiral; like Trump as he was 'then' as a guest on Fresh Prince.

[Anonymous No.22160515]

>>22160483
Honestly if he helps you improve your life, have at it. I don't have anything against him other than that he is inconsequential and unoriginal.

[Anonymous No.22160521]

>>22160459
Evolution presupposes a nominalist view of reality and cannot epistemologically account for the assumptions that the scientific methold relies on.
>>22160497
>You can criticize his knowledge on certain topic but never his integrity
He should do a livestream with Jay Dyer. Jay could educate him on metaphysics and epistemology and also redpill him on certain globalist conspiracies that Peterson doesn't seem to know.

[Anonymous No.22160523]

>>22160468
He was a drug addict with an ego problem and litterally every media appearance corresponded with a product for sale.
And his wife's illness was how he deflected responsibility.

I hope you are getting paid for all this water you are carrying for him.

[Anonymous No.22160524]

>>22160393
lol true

[Anonymous No.22160528]

>>22160497
>never his integrity
The guy was selling $20 guided journaling programs from the get-go, and we shouldn't forget the $20 personality tests.

[Anonymous No.22160559]

>>22160528
> the $20 personality tests.
hahahahaaha i didnt even know this

>>22160523
patreon/onlyfans

[Anonymous No.22160567]

>>22160515
>pseud /lit/
>>22160497
Pretty much. He didn't grill either of them because it's not his style. Personally, I would have preferred a confrontational stance with them but it's just not the way he handles his interviews.
>>22160512
>>22160523
>disingenuously ignores facts in order to make shit up
Doctor prescribed medication. Significant accomplishments in the time since. If he were as bad as you say you'd have some new material instead of blatant mischaractizations that recycle the same 5-year-old ad homs. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.22160568]

[Anonymous No.22160582]

>>22160567
>Significant accomplishments in the time since.
He has not done a single debate since he came back.
And you make the bad assumption that all doctors prescribe all medication properly and that One's own account of this story is the truth. You must be awfully tired carying all this water.

But you still have not excused the $20 online survey and journaling prompt.

[Anonymous No.22160584]

>>22160177
>Has book sales that are matched or beaten by other generic self-help drivel
Shill harder. Maybe I can clean my palette with 50 Shades of Grey while my wife fucks the neighbor. Really have some bad dragons I need to fight.

[Anonymous No.22160588]

>>22160528
>>22160559
>$20 personality tests
That was a programme he developed (as part of a team) as a way to make it more likely at risk students would complete their degrees. It wasn't a "personality test," it was basically a form of self-evaluation tied to goal setting. You can shit on it of you want but it was shown to work at several universities (in which it was offered free of charge) and became part of courses at U of T.

[Anonymous No.22160597]

>>22160567
>Significant accomplishments in the time since.
like what? All he's known for is going to the trouble of going to a university board and saying something anybody already knew. And the "clean your room" shtick.

This is the problem, you're literally sucking his dick by pretending he 'had' accomplishments in the first place or since.

The clean your room appeals to a certain demographic to nihilistic religious types who want to pretend everyone around them is retarded. Again, same mentality as Trumps guys. There's a painting somewhere which sums up this patronizing delusion. see attached.

[Anonymous No.22160598]

>>22160588
Of something is free of charge, why does it also need a promo code. I could have sworn it was $20. Are you lying again to carry water for him?

[Anonymous No.22160601]

>>22160567
>Significant accomplishments in the time since.
like what? All he's known for is going to the trouble of going to a university board and saying something anybody already knew. And the "clean your room" shtick.

This is the problem, you're literally sucking his dick by pretending he 'had' accomplishments in the first place or since.

The clean your room appeals to a certain demographic to nihilistic religious types who want to pretend everyone around them is retarded. Again, same mentality as Trumps guys. There's a painting somewhere which sums up this patronizing delusion.
see attached.

[Anonymous No.22160607]

>>22160601
I don't even like Peterson but trying to turn this into owning le Drumpf is reddit tier.

[Anonymous No.22160608]

>>22160588
The big 5 personality test was a personality test, and it was not free. The self authorship program was also not free. The first Rogan appearances present the audience with the promo codes.

[Anonymous No.22160609]

If only you knew how bad things were. Don't read his books, anon.

Also,
>Drug addict
>Needed to be put into a coma to not actually have to deal with withdrawal
but, yeah, you normies buy my shit and fight your own battles because that's, uh, good for you I guess.

He sounds like someone who needs to clean his room, which was decent advice I once hear from someone who looks a lot like him.

[Anonymous No.22160610]

>>22160567
>There's a painting somewhere which sums up this patronizing delusion.
>see attached.
ed. sorry, i posted the wrong painting. fixed this.

[Anonymous No.22160617]

>>22160607
>owning
ffs white nigger pussy boy, it's literally the same audience doing the same thing; searching for messiahs whilst believing anybody other than themselves is a retard.

[Anonymous No.22160623]

>>22160617
piss off faggot

[Anonymous No.22160627]

>>22160607
oh. wait. i see what you mean now: I mention Trump again because of what I said to the guy in the first place: >>22160092
>>22160238

i.e. they pretend 'we' dislike Petersons politics, they pretend 'we' dislike Trumps policies, really we're just sick to death of hearing the media screaming about the person.

[Anonymous No.22160628]

>>22160582
>He has not done a single debate since he came back
Immediately published his second international bestseller. Went on multiple worldwide lecture tours. Started a popular interview series viewed by millions. Created a university. Organized a think tank. He was never really one for debates and constructive conversation is the wheelhouse he has chosen to lean into

As I said, you mischaracterized information and disingenuously disregard anything that goes against your presupposed narrative. You're incapable of good faith discussion and the type of person, complete unworthy of association, who Peterson filters.
>bad assumption that all doctors prescribe all medication properly
I never made that assumption. You're assuming Peterson is a longtime drug addict in order to mischaracterize withdrawal from a prescribed medication (which, again, was overprescribed and has since been dramatically restricted only in the last few years specifically for the reason it has a propensity to lead to severe withdrawal) as a character defining drug addiction. You're a retard.
>>22160584
>starts sperging unsolicited cuck fantasies
You need help. Stop watching porn.

[Anonymous No.22160634]

>>22160623
you're asking to have your jaw ripped from your head there m8

[Anonymous No.22160650]

Lmao, Peterson got cumstered and dumpstered in that one Zizek debate. It's incredibly NSFW for any JBP garglers.

>Peterson went in thinking Zizek was a Marxist
>Zizek agrees on some critiques
>Peterson confused that this isn't zoomer debatelord combat
>Zizek identifies as more of a Hegelian and presses the critiques of Marxism
>Peterson admits he never even read the Communist Manifesto

My brother, you thought you were going to just come in and dunk on someone without even reading what you thought they identified with?

[Anonymous No.22160655]

>>22160650
Hegelianism is Luciferian black magic.

[Anonymous No.22160673]

>>22160628
So did you read the book, or are you just flexing someone else's ability to write words on a paper?

[Anonymous No.22160674]

>>22160598
It was developed as part of a team and offered freely to university students. It was tested with follow up evaluations and shown to be effective. Do you think people shouldn't be paid for the work they do? Peterson did a lot of probono counselling as well and the university he's setting up will offer free degrees. Why should we selectively ignore those things?
>>22160601
>like what?
Second internationally bestselling book immediately after his treatment, several sold out international lecture tours, interview series that has hundreds of episodes by now, organized a university (that will offer accredited degrees free of charge to people in under-developed countries), creating a think tank...we could go on. The point is people like you selectively ignore these things because you're ignorant resentful people--the fact Peterson filters you and gets you to expose yourselves is a massive public service.
>>22160608
>The big 5 personality test
The Big 5 is the current paradigm for personality psychology. You don't know what you're talking about.
>The self authorship program was also not free
It was offered freely to university students. Also, see above.

[Anonymous No.22160677]

>>22160628
>Immediately published his second international bestseller. Went on multiple worldwide lecture tours. Started a popular interview series viewed by millions.
Popularity in itself proves nothing. The vast majority of people these days have absolutely dogshit taste.

[Anonymous No.22160684]

>>22160673
>shifts goalposts
You said he didn't have any accomplishments. Is publishing a (second) internationally best selling book not an accomplishment? What about all the other things that I listed--theyre not accomplishments either?

[Anonymous No.22160687]

>>22160628
>You're incapable of good faith discussion and the type of person, complete unworthy of association, who Peterson filters.
Hm.

You've said this a few times and have pretended your political thing is what's motivating people who don't like or care for peterson. I think the reason for your motivation is that you share a common mental affliction or drug habit which enables you to pretend incoming feedback is (some fantasy).

I still don't understand how you can overlook the jew thing, since you're certainly one of those white nigger types. But I guess it's all quite shallow really.

>Created a university.
..

>>22160650
>Peterson got cumstered
This is a good point. I was only talking about the drugs, I'd quite forgotten how badly he does in the 'debates' I've seen. He's just not a serious thinker and is appealing to the gestalt boomers woe-is-me and the muh communism excuse.

The only thing I've seen of him which was ok, because he didn't say very much lol, was with Camille Paglia, although I might have confused the 2nd party in that conversation. How the fakke-left fake-moralist university admin types today are the same moralist university types back in their day when they were larping as christians rather than faggot rights activists.

Yeah, too bad that didn't go anywhere. It couldn't really. NOT IF HE HAD A CHRISTIAN ONLYFANS BASE IN HIS FORETHOUGHT ALL ALONG

It also would have destroyed his premise on muh communism as well, if it was accepted that the 'lefists' are only playing pretend and are just mainline careerists.

[Anonymous No.22160692]

>>22160677
See >>22160684. If you need to feel that you're above others thats your problem, anon. You'll never attain the influence of someone like Peterson has and the fact is you don't deserve to.

[Anonymous No.22160698]

>>22160674
>filters
see: >>22160687
I wouldn't give him the time of day to be honest. As I've said multiple times here, the majority of annoyance over his name is that fucking annoying cunts such as yourself constantly act like he's a saintly being who is diabolically 'owning' everybody around him - who could care less.

None of your list is true by the way.

[Anonymous No.22160699]

>>22160687
>You've said this a few times and have pretended your political thing is what's motivating people who don't like or care for peterson
You've don't nothing but disingenuously mischaracterize while ignoring facts that are inconvenient to your assertions. You're they type of person Peterson filters--a resentful and ideologically possessed retard who is unworthy of association. The truth sometimes hurts, anon.

[Anonymous No.22160703]

>>22160698
>projection
He's far from a perfect person but as long as his main critics are retards like you he'll continue to be successful. Seethe.

[Anonymous No.22160707]

>>22160567
Keep crying that I'm not gobbling your internet-daddy's dick like you do

[Anonymous No.22160713]

>>22160707
>unsolicited homoerotic fantasies
Stop watching porn.

[Anonymous No.22160718]

>>22160628
>Has built his career on telling people that they need to face their own demons
>Gets put into a medically induced coma so he doesn't have to fight his own demons

It would be silly to think being addicted is the only issue at play when analyzing someone's character. Anyone is subject to fall from grace, but it is the unfailing certainty of his advice to others that he does not follow that give me pause.

>>22160684
Also, I'm a new player in the chat. Chill out on swinging so wildly at everything that takes a crack at Pebersen. Multiple people here seem to have their own different issues with him. And yes, bestselling books aren't necessarily good books. I stand by that statement, so I ask again, do (You) think it's good? Because I tried to read some of his other stuff, and it isn't the most logically sound stuff or the most coherent in the world, and I've read some of Hegel, which should mean something as to my tolerance for density. There were many good nuggets that could be pulled out an analyzed out of context, but overall it's bad.

[Anonymous No.22160720]

>>22160699
>The truth sometimes hurts, anon.
whatever you say, internet troll. I've told you several times that I don't care for peterson 'not' that 'I' am the "worst enemy" and you need to pretend shit like this is going on:
> You're they type of person Peterson filters--a resentful and ideologically possessed
to perpetuate your own fantasy political narrative.

DESU I wish death on all people like you far more than tat harmless old coot. If you hadn't read his book or whatever you would probably have committed suicide several years ago and you wouldn't be disrespecting me today. That's the truth of the matter really, friend.

[Anonymous No.22160725]

>>22160703
>his main critics
HAHAHA
see: >>22160720
I suspect I'm 1000% rit and all feedback to peterson is coming from people like me from this exact same position of being bored, sick of hearing about him and being told I'm "evil enemy" by his internet shills.

[Anonymous No.22160731]

>>22160718
>still mischaracterizing things and ignoring inconvenient facts
Again, if he were as bad as people like you say you wouldn't have to do that. Hanging on to the same ad homs, that are the better part of a decade old, is just a tell that you're a disingenuous retard who is unworthy of association. >>22160720
>YOU'RE A TROLL
>YOU SHOULD HAVE KILLED YOURSELF
Your cognitive dissonance is truly astounding, kek. You're a next level retard.

[Anonymous No.22160734]

>>22160699
1) you're talking to several people idiot

>>22160703
>projection
where? that's a non sequitur u dum nigger

2) why do peterson fans not understand any psych terminology.

[Anonymous No.22160737]

>>22160725
>I suspect I'm 1000% rit and all feedback
Keep telling yourself that. Plenty of retards will probably agree. Too bad they're as completely worthless as you yourself are. Cope.

[Anonymous No.22160745]

>>22160734
>1) you're talking to several people
I'm aware. The anti-Peterson team is a great mix of reactionary libtard, delusional tranny, and resentful chud. Great team to be a part of.
>why do peterson fans not understand any psych terminology
You were projecting a bunch of nonsense, anon. If you want to resort to semantics because youve been repeatedly BTFO'd on every point feel free to do so though.

[Anonymous No.22160759]

>>22160731
sigh
1) you are a "doing a troll" because you're insisting on a fantasy being true as you're told several times it's not*, the aim is to aggravate (and maybe radicalize to make us actually hate him)

2) you should have killed yourselves, yes. you guys are subhuman.

>dissonance
3) see: >>22160734
>2) why do peterson fans not understand any psych terminology.

4)
>Again, if he were as bad as people like you say you wouldn't have to do that. Hanging on to the same ad homs,
I could say the same,
If peterson really had any evil enemies out to get him, as you believe, then why would you need to accuse strangers who are neutral* of being those enemies?

The political capital to present yourself/boyfriend as being persecuted is well known and sought by countless groups.

i'm sure this is too complex for your dug addled brain to process though, which leads back to my earlier points: >>22160378 >>22160687
>I think the reason for your motivation is that you share a common mental affliction or drug habit which enables you to pretend incoming feedback is (some fantasy).
> online delusions (lol snap, his fans and you do this a lot)to minimize and blot-out incoming feedback which is "not wanted" and the spinning of that feedback into a persecution fantasy.

[Anonymous No.22160761]

>>22160731
Not really a mischaracterization.
If someone tries to sell me their special solar panels, but I find out that they don't use the same solar panels, then I think it's fair to ask some questions. If asking why someone doesn't practice what they preach is an ad hom. and a dismissable question to you, then I don't know why you're even giving off the pretense that this is a debate if he can do no wrong in your eyes.

[Anonymous No.22160762]

>>22160713
No one is having or will ever have erotic fantasies that feature you.

[Anonymous No.22160780]

>>22160745
>1) you are a "doing a troll" because you're insisting on a fantasy being true
I've stated nothing but facts while pointing out mischaracterizations and laying out information that contradicts disingenuous assertions. Simple as.
>you should have killed yourselves
You first.
>3) see: >>22160734
You're posts aren't even worth reading once, anon. Besides, I've already given adequate response and if you can't meet it that's your problem. (You probably have a lot of problems, eh? Poor you).
>why would you need to accuse strangers who are neutral* of being those enemies?
You aren't neutral, anon. You're an opinionated retard who can't even back up his assertions by appealing to knowledgem. You're literally what's wrong with the world.
>which leads back to my earlier points: >>22160378 >>22160687
Kek. Not reading them again, anon. They've already been refuted.

[Anonymous No.22160781]

>>22160745
>projection
>You were projecting a bunch of nonsense, anon.

that's not what Projection means ffs xd

>>22160737
>Keep telling yourself that.
... no my point was that 'you' were telling me that. That me, some guy who has no real strong opinion on peterson more than any other attention-whore youtuber (i.e. fairly negative but nothing special about him really) is "his main critic."

I have suspected that this has been the case really, that's what I've been saying about peterson and trump; how you followers are attacking people who genuinely on't like them because of the press, not because of anything they're actually saying, and you 'need' to make out like the persons beliefs or whatever are under assault by 'us': the persecution fantasy that you desire to validate your broader political views.

[Anonymous No.22160785]

>>22160311
>"yeah hes retarded but at least he's not as retarded as those lunatic leftists!"
then find someone better to idolize
preferably someone that actually has the capacity to write books that aren't airport self-help or jungian masturbation
you would be better off lionizing any literate christian conservative than a benzo addict that can't stop posting on twatter
i understand that you used him as a replacement for a father figure, but its time to move on champ.

[Anonymous No.22160790]

>>22158234
Jordan Peterson is not a literary figure, he does not belong on this board.

[Anonymous No.22160796]

>>22160785
You should not idolize anyone but Jay Dyer is way better at metaphysics and epistemology than Peterson, and he also is way more based and redpilled.

[Anonymous No.22160800]

>>22160761
>Not really a mischaracterization
For the reasons already laid out above, yes they are.
>pretense that this is a debate if he can do no wrong in your eyes.
I never said he can do no wrong. You're adding strawman to your list of fallacies to go along with your ad homs now?
>>22160762
>REEEEEEEE
At least you didn't post more unsolicited homosexual fantasies again.

[Anonymous No.22160802]

>>22160780
>adequate response
> They've already been refuted.
>You're literally what's wrong with the world.
holy shit. I'm trying to get across to you that you're not attacking who/what you think you're attacking. This is bizarre.

You're doing TV talking points basically, you're just not here to listen to anything being said to you, and to spout off with your persecution narrative.

>You're posts aren't even worth reading once, anon.
yeah i agree, I can't really be bothered to play your baby games with you anymore, my points have been proven for the readers here, so.. whatever.

[Anonymous No.22160803]

>oh boy, here I go, gotta defend lobster-daddy from postmodern neo-marxists on the internet again
cope

I truly wish I could find a JBP fan that could comprehensively tell me what postmodern neo-marxists actually are in a nuanced way that didn't involve the word "woke" or just boil down to a group of college kids they didn't like. It's almost like it's not actually about the ideology behind it, and just a boogeyman that they can paint over everything to avoid critical thinking about WHY they don't like certain things or beliefs. It's exhausting trying to engage with these people. I don't know why they don't just kill their heroes like an adult and move on to better material.

>>22160790
Based

[Anonymous No.22160811]

>>22160803
just replace postmodern neomarxist with SJW and it makes sense
>"but SJWs aren't postmodern or marxist or neomarxist"
correct. its just jbp wanting to sound smart by bringing up pomo and marxism.
jbp would be a lot more tolerable if he just said SJW or progressive or liberal instead of trying to make his own pseud terminology for clout and ego.

[Anonymous No.22160814]

It's weird how Jordan supports open borders for America and Europe, but nationalism for Israel.

[Anonymous No.22160820]

>>22160780
>>you should have killed yourselves
>You first.
I don't need a squeaky voiced canadian telling me to tidy my (already tidy) bedroom to avoid suicide. That's the point here, someone as fucking low as yourself has managed to avoid dignified suicide and has been enabled to go on to slightly inconvenience other peoples lives.

If petrstein has one crime when he stands before santo petros portos, it is this.

[Anonymous No.22160823]

>>22160781
>that's not what Projection means
I don't care to argue semantics, anon. What I meant is that you're projecting a caricature of a Peterson fanboy because you've been BTFO for being ignorant. Simple as.
>That me, some guy who has no real strong opinion on peterson
You sure seem to react with a lot of emotionally laden vitriol for someone who supposedly doesn't have a strong opinion. The fact is you're a pseud.
>no you
That's projection, anon.
>I have suspected that this has been the case really, that's what I've been saying about peterson and trump
Stopped reading there. No one cares about your political opinions, anon. You're a worthless idiot.
>>22160785
>then find someone better to idolize
I don't idolize him. I just enjoy the fact he gets really shitty people to self-select and out themselves just by existing as a media presence. People like you.

[Anonymous No.22160830]

>>22160802
>spergs
>announces he's leaving
I don't care, anon. Call your parents or something.

[Anonymous No.22160832]

>>22160800
You didn't lay it out, exactly. From what I read, you stated that being addicted isn't a character flaw, which is true and I'm not arguing. It would be a mischaracterization to fault him for becoming addicted and extrapolating a judgement from that. The issue I have lies with his treatment, where he went out of the country because no doctor would give him the treatment he wanted due to the dangers they said it would pose. That isn't some oopsie accident someone makes, avoiding professional guidance and fleeing to borch-land. That is intentional and deliberate planning to avoid responsibility for the situation in which he found himself, the cornerstone of the beliefs he preaches.

[Anonymous No.22160836]

>>22160820
>MY ROOM IS ALREADY CLEAN!
I don't care, anon. Go make some real friends.

[Anonymous No.22160846]

>>22160823
anon you have pictures of him and several pastas saved to your pc, you are only one step removed from avatarfagging at this point
>>/lit/image/WaKNiBJc5j72e9/2cWI70A
how many posts have you made defending jbp? he may as well be your waifu at this point.
there are many people that you could associate with that dunk on trannies and aren't also druggies.

[Anonymous No.22160854]

>>22160823
>you stated being addicted isn't a character flaw
I pointed out it was: 1) a doctor prescribed medication 2) that it was overprescribed until recently 3) that it has (only recently) become rarely prescribed 4) that the symptoms Peterson experienced are one of the main reasons for (3). On top of that, critics want to mischaracterize this as a character defining downward spiral into drug addiction when, not only is this not so, Peterson has gone on to a long list of accomplishments in the time since.
>issue I have lies with his treatment, where he went out of the country because no doctor would give him the treatment he wanted due to the dangers they said it would pose
He was misdiagnosed and the Canadian healthcare system sucks, anon. He went for a treatment specifically developed to treat the symptoms he was experiencing when doctors wanted him to take SSRIs. The treatment he chose worked--simple as.
>That is intentional and deliberate planning to avoid responsibility for the situation
No it wasn't. He literally sought medical assistance and took the personal onus to decide upon his own treatment.

Get it now?

[Anonymous No.22160861]

>>22160823
>You sure seem to react with a lot of emotionally laden vitriol
I haven't though. I mentioned he was a benzo addict and so medically-legally he is non compos mentis and the continued 'thing' of you guys doing this (i.e. all this; making him out to be a genius and any critic of him to be "evil") is weird.

Then you used the word filter alot, how much you admire peterson for selectively ignoring reality, and I mentioned that that's funny cos you think the same way and it happens to be symptomatic of legitimate debilitating cognitive disorders (selective memory, schizophrenia, autism, drunk, high).
e.g.
>Stopped reading there.
>filtered


>the semantics
me either. You're just using words in the wrong way to build an attack or "refutation" that doesn't stick due to the errors.

ironically even your use of the word semantics is in error also lol


>No one cares about your political opinions, anon. You're a worthless idiot.
I have youtube videos with millions of views as well, that was your main badge of honor for old jordy wasn't it? that he was a common trash youtuber lol

[Anonymous No.22160863]

>>22160846
>anon you have pictures of him and several pastas saved to your pc
I copied them from the archive you posted. I'm not sorry the pastas circumvent the falsehoods you repeatedly regurgitate and you're unable to come up with anything new, anon.

[Anonymous No.22160866]

>>22160836
okay let's both quit, and you quit making these threads then. next time i see a borgon jewderscam thread 'll go knife some trad-youth. that's my deal. k

[Anonymous No.22160873]

i can't say i'm willing to pay 30$USD to file my own corporate papers to open an online university from my bedroom though, so peterson has that over me. to my shame.

[Anonymous No.22160880]

>>22160861
>sperg
Again, mischaracterizations and disingenuously ignoring inconvenient facts.
>using words wrong
Semantics are the last hope of someone who has been repeatedly BTFO'd. Besides, the problem is your reading comprehension, anon.
>I'm an eceleb
Sure you are, troon.

[Anonymous No.22160887]

>>22160866
>you quit making these threads
I'm not OP. You should just ignore them if Peterson upsets you so much. Congratulations on your room being clean--did you call your parents to tell them?

[Anonymous No.22160894]

>>22160811
He had decent points and things that addressed topics that did indeed need more discussion when he was still a teacher, especially around analyzing the changing gender norms. His earlier papers, not bad stuff. Say what you will about his stance, a reasonable discussion is warranted. Once he started to get attention for being a reasonable right-leaning voice, he got sucked into the feedback loop of grifting. I don't think he knew what kind of schizos he was courting that were amplifying him until it was too late. His statements had to have more and more edge to stay in the limelight. Most other teachers could have gotten away with what he was saying and doing, but he was the rally point for a bunch of assholes. He became so sucked into the frenzy that it put all his academics by the wayside and gave him some serious talking-head brainrot.

It got to the point where beginning of last year, he went on Rogan and started talking about how "climate is too complicated to model." My brother, you are a psych professor, stay in your lane if you're going to just make shit up.

It really was a sad downfall to watch.

[Anonymous No.22160904]

>>22160832
> being addicted isn't a character flaw, which is true
wtf yes it is in this case. A junkie or a drunk has no fucking business teaching anyone about the joy of clean living without alcopops. The hippopotamus is mindlessly glaring.

i.e. (such a) speaker is pure harmful fantasy, not the needed reality.

[Anonymous No.22160910]

>>22160800
>REEEEEEEE and same comment again

Yeh you've got nothing to come back with.

[Anonymous No.22160913]

>Prompted ChatGPT with: write a nonsensical paragraph in the form of jordan peterson

Well, you see, the postmodern neo-Marxist deconstructionists have insidiously infiltrated the cultural fabric of our society, dismantling the very essence of meaning and truth. Their linguistic gymnastics, fueled by the nihilistic underpinnings of their ideology, have created a veritable chaos in the realm of discourse. The gender pronoun war has reached a fever pitch, with pronouns multiplying faster than rabbits in a perpetual cycle of intersectional victimhood. Meanwhile, the lobster of individualism clings to the rock of personal responsibility, desperately trying to navigate the treacherous waters of moral relativism. The archetypal dragons of chaos, lurking in the depths of the collective unconscious, can only be slain through the heroic journey of self-authorship, where one discovers the untapped potential within the chaos. So, clean your room, bucko, and embark on a quest for truth, for only in the domain of meaning can we find salvation from the abyss of postmodern absurdity.

>Holy shit, my sides. It's spot on.

[Anonymous No.22160924]

>>22160910
>Yeh you've got nothing to come back with
Last word battles with retards are a pointless endeavor, anon. I already know you're a pathetic retard and there's nothing more to say about that.

[Anonymous No.22160930]

>>22160863
>"name 1 bad thing about him!"
>okay heres 7 bad things
>"name 1 bad thing about him other than these 7 things!"
anon you're obsession with jbp is on the same level as people that repeatedly complain about him. move on to someone else that dunks on trannies and isn't a degenerate druggie.
jordan b cooper is a better jordan b than jordan b peterson.

[Anonymous No.22160940]

>>22160930
>YOU'RE OBSESSED!
>STOP POINTING OUT WE'RE RETARDS!
Simple pleasures. Pastas are minimal effort.

[Anonymous No.22160942]

>>22160880
>(repetition of untrue things)
>sperg
>troon
>btfo
as i said, it's very bad that peterson saved you from suiciding yourself.

[Anonymous No.22160943]

Morgoth > Keith Woods > Michael Woodley > Edward Dutton > Asha Logos > Alex Jones > Jordan Peterson > Ben Shapiro
simple as

[Anonymous No.22160966]

>>22160904
That is just my personal opinion. I can accept that you disagree with that one. I don't think chemical stabilization slowly morphing into a crutch is indicative of character. It is an easy slide for anyone not fully aware to fall down. It is indeed odd for a prof of psychology to fall victim to one of the most blatant of mental traps, but I digress. I think the way he handled it with "treatment" is more than sufficiently illustrative of my concerns with his character to reach the same point.

[Anonymous No.22160967]

>>22160363
If women were bad, God would not use one to conceive His Son.

[Anonymous No.22160970]

>>22160942
>criticism can't stand the scrutiny of facts
>becomes frustrated when his mischaracterizations are laid bare
>cries about semantics when BTFO
>KYS KYS KYS
Don't kill yourself, anon.

[Anonymous No.22160973]

>>22160940
your rejection of trying to find another trannydunker that isn't a massive degen is very telling.

[Anonymous No.22160976]

>>22160970
You should take you meds and have a nap, friend.

[Anonymous No.22160977]

>>22160973
Sure.

[Anonymous No.22160980]

>>22160967
The point isn't that women are bad. The point is that God created a distinctions and hierarchy. Feminism is a subversion of the proper order. Paul speaks on this topic in the Bible.
https://youtu.be/XcKn7DvckRI

[Anonymous No.22160988]

>>22160976
>T-T-TAKE YOUR MEDS!
I thought you implied you were above buzzwords and crutch phrases, anon. Guess not. Either way, we're done here. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.22160994]

>>22160977
>>22160387

[Anonymous No.22161012]

>>22160988
I have no idea who you think you're talking to or what you're referencing.
Seriously, if you think you're talking to one anon, take your meds. Or seek treatment to get meds, idk, man. I just say that post with you flipping your shit and wanted you to chill. I'm not so sure your friend is all there, either, but at least his post sounded like coherent english.

[Anonymous No.22161013]

Honestly one of the best JBP threads I've read in a long time, I expect it to be jannied soon.

[Anonymous No.22161016]

>>22160966
>I don't think chemical stabilization slowly morphing into a crutch is indicative of character.
I think the need for chemical stabilization is indicative of character (there's no proof he wasn't always using anyway, he's an old man and those kind of drugs were widespread in his circles decades back, jungian types; some crisis often tips the habitual user back which reveals that whatever crisis coping techniques they used weren't working).

But,
Being chemically drunk and talking about the wonders of having a clean room (hilarious if true) is not a true report on the steps of how to go about accomplishing that.

>. It is indeed odd for a prof of psychology to fall victim to one of the most blatant of mental traps,
it's very suspicious in my opinion. He should be aware of far more things than he is, in what he's said, etc.

[Anonymous No.22161023]

>>22160988
>spergs
>announces he's leaving
I don't care, anon. Call your parents or something.

[Anonymous No.22161047]

[Anonymous No.22161062]

The big question is who will get the final word ITT

[Anonymous No.22161072]

>>22161012
I'm well aware a confederacy of libtards, trannies, and chuds come together to seethe about Peterson whenever there's a thread and it's not my fault if you don't read the chain and jump in randomly, retard.
>>22161023
Never said I was leaving. Just said I'd ignore that chain. Just wanted to clarify, you have my permission to take the last word now.

[Anonymous No.22161078]

>>22161072
>chuds
Only a crypto-tranny would use this word unless you are talking about the ancient Finnic tribe.

[Anonymous No.22161081]

>>22160994
See >>22160425. Your nonsense makes fun of itself and requires no effort on my part.

[Anonymous No.22161088]

>>22161016
I still don't think I can concede that prescribed and reasonable chemical stabilization is indicative of character. Taking lithium to make a schizo a functional member of society isn't a negative character trait if they are able to overcome the struggle of living with said disability. Using an appropriate amount of painkillers to stabilize after an injury is also acceptable in my eyes. I also see no issue from the person who went and tripped balls at burning man back in their collage years.

How the dependency came about is what I see as one of the defining features, which is a messy and often subjective retelling of the events, so it is incredibly difficult to say for certain whether the dependency came about through intentional and reckless behavior, or via unassuming accident.

The regular abuse of a medication to receive an altered state beyond 'normalcy' would indeed be indicative of character, for sure. I can also agree that a habitual dependency born of a coping mechanism would also be a negative indicator of character. On those points I agree, but again, it is difficult for an outsider to determine such nuance.

I hope I properly conveyed where my distinction on the matter roughly lies, though.

[Anonymous No.22161091]

>>22161078
For the most part I agree with you because it's mostly used as a crutchword. However, it's convenient shorthand for losers who blame a vast international multi-millennia Jewish conspiracy for the fact they're losers.

[Anonymous No.22161098]

>>22161091
>However, it's convenient shorthand for losers who blame a vast international multi-millennia Jewish conspiracy for the fact they're losers.
Go finish dilating.

[Anonymous No.22161103]

>>22161062
My money’s on the chuds

[Anonymous No.22161109]

>Petersonfags literally use the same insult that tranny marxists use
makes you think

[Anonymous No.22161112]

>>22161088
Checked and reasonable. NTA, I have trouble blaming people who fall into drugs because it's a coping mechanism. There's a clear difference between people who develop an addiction due to partying and fucking around and those that fall back on it because their life is shitty. You still need to assert they take back their agency over it and drugs can morph them into despicable people--but they're still deserving of sympathy and access to such is likely the only path they'll have to turn their lives around.

[Anonymous No.22161114]

>>22160976
>"Take your meds and have a nape"
>>22160988(You)
>"I thought you implied you were above buzzwords and crutch phrases"
>>22161012
>"Who the fuck are you talking to?"
>>22161072(You)
>It's not my fault if you don't read. Must be the amorphous confederacy of people I don't like again.

I don't think you're even reading your own posts, actually, that's what has me concerned. It's somehow my fault for telling you to chill and take a nap and "get in the way of your blind rage"?
Keep swinging at ghosts then for all I care.

[Anonymous No.22161118]

>>22161098
Chuds gonna chud. You're excused.

[Anonymous No.22161121]

>>22158275
Should have faked his death DESU. Would have gone down as a hero of mythic proportions, rather than a case study for how drugs destroy you. That said, I will never stop believing that his coma wasn't some sort of weird Jewish plot to MK Ultra him and turn him into a Zionist zombie slave.

[Anonymous No.22161123]

>>22161114
The posts you listed weren't linked to one another, retard.

[Anonymous No.22161129]

>>22158612
>Formal debate of ideas
>About an author he hasn't read
>And an ideology he knows nothing about
Zizek engaged with much more good faith than Peterson, and I like JP

[Anonymous No.22161130]

>>22161121
He already shilled for zog long before the drug stuff happened. People have been talking about this since he first got popular in 2016.

[Anonymous No.22161134]

>>22161112
Yeah, I'm still willing to view it as an indicator and not a full indictment. They are absolutely deserving of access to help and sympathy, I agree. Taking back their agency is indeed the road to recovery, and they are absolutely capable of changing for the better. I'm glad there's a couple reasonable people in this godforsaken thread.

[Anonymous No.22161140]

>>22161123
Works on my machine. They all link straight together for me.

[Anonymous No.22161142]

>>22161129
Neither of them were familiar with one another's work. Zizek thought he was debating a conservative ideologue and Peterson was shocked Zizek and he have a lot of common ground. When Peterson realized that he shifted into conversation mode because he was genuinely interested in what Zizek had to say (unfortunately Zizek didn't fully let go of the caricature of Peterson he had in mind and didn't engage with the valid shorthand Peterson uses to socially criticize academic and society at large).

[Anonymous No.22161143]

the funny contradiction almost doesn't need to be pointed out here:

>>22161072
>I'm well aware a confederacy of libtards, trannies, and chuds come together to seethe about Peterson
and
>>22161091
>losers who blame a vast international multi-millennia Jewish conspiracy for the fact they're losers.

Wait, why are you aggrandizing jordy if you don't believe in that stuff? That's his entire fanbase.. did you not know this? Don't tell me you saw him on tv being smiled at by ben nitay and think he's someone suddenly approved of?

strange position to be idolizing this drug addict from, i must say.

[Anonymous No.22161153]

>>22161140
>I jumped into a string and it's your fault I became confused
It's ok, anon. Anonymous message board.
>actually, I'm not confused--you are!
You couldn't even post the post numbers correctly, retard.

[Anonymous No.22161154]

>>22161129
Zizek not only engaged in good faith, he spooned definitions and explanations to JBP to prop up the whole debate. It was like trying to give different to a child to see if they liked any.

>No corn? What about pea? Maybe a carrot, those are sweet? Yeah, a little carrot can be good for you, and you can have some capitalism later.

[Anonymous No.22161155]

>>22161121
>>22161130
Peterson worked under George Soros at the UN in the early 2010s.

[Anonymous No.22161156]

>>22161109
they're the same brain-pattern on different fad kicks, today they're this and are vile, tomorrow they're the opposite and are vile, nothing changes much. if you ignore the verbal composition of seemingly radically differing ideological buzzwords, it's the same person.

Eugenics Today. Kill the left and the right together.

[Anonymous No.22161161]

>>22161156
I fear that his work will be cherry-picked by his army of sycophants over the next couple years to whitewash his bumbling stupidity.

[Anonymous No.22161173]

>>22161143
Chuds hate Peterson because he associates with Jews and points out they sublimate their personal resentment into (reactionary) support for extremism based around identitarianism. Trannies hate Peterson because he points out the absurdities of "her penis/pregnant people" alongside the draconian policies enacted by neoliberal governments that easily slide toward totalitarian impulses (e.g. legislating speech). Are your seriously just figuring out that trannies/chuds both hate Peterson? His main thing is getting ideologues to become reactionary against common sense.

[Anonymous No.22161193]

>>22161153
Is this better for you? I'll just assume you're on mobile and that's what made it hard to scroll up to find your own post and not that you can't acknowledge when something reasonable is presented to you. From my reading of the debate like you asked, you only ever fire back with more gish-gallop and "ignored", and have failed to address things that you couldn't directly attack. I do still stand by you probably needing professional help. Maybe if we're lucky, you'll do the same as JBP and instead want 'professional' help from Russia and not be heard from for a while.

>>22160976
>"Take your meds and have a nap"
>>22160988
>"I thought you implied you were above buzzwords and crutch phrases"
>>22161012
>"Who the fuck are you talking to?"
>>22161072
>"It's not my fault if you don't read. Must be the amorphous confederacy of people I don't like again."

[Anonymous No.22161200]

>>22161173
>points out they sublimate their personal resentment into (reactionary) support for extremism based around identitarianism.
People can use these made up pop psychology explanations for everything.
It is on the same level as left wing faggots who say
>If you don't approve of homosexuality it's because you're a closet gay who is ashamed

[Anonymous No.22161221]

>>22161072
>Now, let me tell you something that may seem trivial, but is far from it. The art of getting the last word in an argument holds immense significance in the grand tapestry of human existence. You see, my dear interlocutors, when engaged in a battle of ideas, the one who claims the final utterance possesses a power that transcends the mere exchange of words. It is a symbolic conquest, a triumph over the chaos of opposing viewpoints. To have the last word is to plant your flag of truth firmly in the intellectual battlefield, leaving your adversaries gasping for intellectual air. In that fleeting moment, you ascend to a higher plane of existence, where reason and rhetoric collide in a dance of dominance. The last word becomes an incantation, a spell that reverberates through the very fabric of reality, imprinting your wisdom upon the collective consciousness. It is a mark of intellectual prowess, an assertion of your rightful place in the hierarchy of ideas. So, my friends, do not underestimate the power of the final retort, for in that climactic moment, you become the master of discourse, shaping the narrative and etching your name in the annals of intellectual history.

ChatGPT is way more fun than your stupid prophet.

>You know, in the grand scheme of existence, one must grapple with the profound significance of having a pet dolphin. These majestic creatures, brimming with intellectual prowess and an almost unearthly wisdom, hold the key to unlocking the hidden depths of our subconscious minds. By forging a deep connection with a dolphin companion, we embark on a transcendent journey, transcending the mundane limitations of our human experience. As we swim alongside our cetacean confidante, we tap into the primal essence of nature itself, transcending the trappings of our terrestrial existence. Through their melodic clicks and chirps, dolphins communicate a language that surpasses the boundaries of mere words, resonating with the very core of our souls. It is through this harmonious interplay that we unravel the enigma of our own consciousness, unveiling the profound secrets of the universe. So, my friends, if you seek true enlightenment, if you yearn to plunge into the depths of existential truth, I implore you to embrace the transformative power of a pet dolphin, for it is in their presence that we find solace, purpose, and the unspoken answers to life's most profound questions.

Is that all it takes for you to simp for someone? Has he made you a big bad internet alpha?
Did you clean your room?

[Anonymous No.22161229]

>>22161200
>I can't refute it so I'll assert it isn't true and make a false equivalency
Cope.

[Anonymous No.22161238]

>>22161193
>sperg
Anon, it's cool you were confused on an anonymous message board but it's really sad you're making it a point of contention. Good luck with the autism.

[Anonymous No.22161240]

>>22161221
tl,dr

[Anonymous No.22161630]

>>22158234
When he signed on to Shapiro's crew, he went full sell out charlatan. He now just interviews people he already agrees with.

[Anonymous No.22161636]

>>22161630
Reminder that Ben is a vaccine shill

[Anonymous No.22161696]

>>22161636
Has Peterson talked much about adverse events? There needs to be a massive investigation, the numbers are just insane.

[Anonymous No.22161702]

>>22161636
I don't understand how anyone can follow Ben. He's such a shameless jew.

[Anonymous No.22161752]

>>22158365
>Because they are behind most things
so you're saying they're the master race?

[Anonymous No.22161777]

>>22158364
I'm always a little shocked when someone actually engages a le jews poster
It's a tremendous effort to only get a cope seethe and them abandoning the thread whenever you start poking holes in their argument. I feel like 90% of the debate on this site boils down to wanting to win and not seeking the truth.

[Anonymous No.22161784]

>>22161091
Yeah I guess just watching mainstream news is good enough for anyone right?

[Anonymous No.22161796]

>>22158234
There's a reason Zizek destroyed him in live debate by simply pointing out that Marxism is a broader topic than can be covered by a skim of The Communist Manifesto, and asking him "where are these neoliberal Marxists you keep complaining about? Name one."

[Anonymous No.22161806]

>>22158392
>Who is it then?
Nigger he said to STOP boiling everything down to the boogeyman of your choice and distorting the truth over it.
Unironically peak brainlet, servile hylic behaviour. School is supposed to beat this childish habit out of people, but it seems insufficient to do so.

[Anonymous No.22161809]

>>22158420
At least you admit you're being intentionally ignorant and socially destructive.
If there really is a shadowy group of puppetmasters controlling the world, you are their perfect slave.

[Anonymous No.22161814]

>>22158763
Nepotism, don't tell me you've never heard about it? They help each other out more than any other group.

[Anonymous No.22161819]

>>22159104
Making a schizo rage tweet about someone's own personal cosmetic surgery is cringe enough, but then prefacing it with a completely unrelated and uneducated religious platitude makes it 10x worse.

>>22159422
If that's what you got from OP's post then you are the one incapable of thinking.

[Anonymous No.22161839]

>>22161796
>where are these neoliberal Marxists you keep complaining about? Name one
I dislike Peterson, but I find this argument very deceiving. Universities, specially in social studies, are full of professors that are influenced by both Marx and post-structuralism. Anyone who has attended a liberal arts college knows this much. They may not be major public figures that are easy to name, but they definitely exist, specially among certain types of state academicists who operate almost as cult leaders and don't like getting the spotlight outside of their ivory tower. And even the kind of reaction Peterson gets from pedants when he mentions postmodern marxists shows that he's into something. "Well, if you think postmodernism and marxism are compatible you obviously haven't read either, so as a postmodernist and as a marxist (but not a postmodern marxist) let me explain you why you're wrong"

[Anonymous No.22161841]

>>22159104
Yes, why do you give a shit what others do to themselves in their personal lives?
I guarantee neither you nor Peterson would give a shit about a guy getting liposuction to seem more attractive to chicks.

[Anonymous No.22161849]

>>22161841
If you see a child get her breasts removed by a "doctor" because of an ideology, would you just sit by and do nothing? What about a child getting his penis cut off in the name of the same ideology? Or the child getting buttfucked? Or getting his armed sawed off? Or legs sawed off?

[Anonymous No.22161852]

>>22161849
Mind you, in all these cases, its the child consented. The parents approved it.

[Anonymous No.22161865]

>>22161849
>If you see a child get her breasts removed by a "doctor" because of an ideology, would you just sit by and do nothing?
Yes I would because medical operations for children should be decided between the child, their parents, and their doctor without the state meddling in their affairs, much less a group of brainrotted twitterscum who don't know any of the facts about any issue they center their lives around.
But this doesn't happen anyways. Gender reassignment surgery is unavaible to people under age 16.
And this is all moving the goalpost anyways, because we (and Peterson) were talking about an adult getting her breasts removed.

[Anonymous No.22161874]

judean peterstein is shill for the jews and obsessed with twitter. He was mad because people were asking asking him when he was going to make video criticizing Judaism part of his video series that looks at Abrahamic religions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkg0XMN8ICw&t=407s

[Anonymous No.22161887]

>>22161839
So like Peterson you're just going off of a vague feeling, not any sort of identifiable fact-of-the-matter?
>so as a postmodernist and as a marxist (but not a postmodern marxist)
I would be very interested to see any example of someone identifying as both.

[Anonymous No.22161888]

>>22161696
Peterson got the vaccines but I think he said later on that he regrets it.
One would think that a guy who spent so much time speaking against authoritarianism would have been more skeptical of the vaccines in the first place. But he fell for it and now he is marked.

[Anonymous No.22161890]

>>22161865
>it doesn't happen anyway but I support it
>also children can conset
LMAO

[Anonymous No.22161892]

>>22161890
You are an inbred illiterate and I am surprised your mental faculties make you capable of operating a computer.

[Anonymous No.22161895]

>>22158414
>THE WORLD IS LE COMPLEX AND WE MUST PURSUE LE TRUTH
You won't survive blood politics when they come, anon. You may think you're smart and intellectually advanced, but it's the opposite. You're a degraded human being. A barbarian is unironically wiser than you.

[Anonymous No.22161904]

>>22161702

[Anonymous No.22161910]

anonymous troll demons. It time you cowards stopped hiding behind anonymity. It time for 4chan to have profiles.

[Anonymous No.22161912]

>>22161895
>gloats about blood politics
>claims the other person is dumb for not participating in them
I curse thee, Poe, and thine infernal Law!

[Anonymous No.22161914]

>>22161892
Pedophile and child molestors like you need to be necked.

[Anonymous No.22161915]

>>22158610
He hasn't been teaching for over five years, and his dogmatic rhetoric has only gotten more and more extreme and unhinged from reality as time goes on.

[Anonymous No.22161917]

>>22161702
His prose is extremely reddit-esque. His tone and the way he stops and starts a new sentence with "Because" in "Because I'm not an asshole" is textbook reddit style writing. And the effeminate sarcasm in the second post as well.

[Anonymous No.22161930]

>>22161887
>academia isn't influenced by Marxism and post-modernism
>the idea that academia, an institution which incubates the middle and upper class, influencing culture is crazy
If you're being a pedantic pseud then yes--the majority of people can't describe the minutea of Marxism and post-modernism. However, that's not what's described by "cultural Marxism" and denying that "post-modernism" isn't a current label/influence is retarded.

[Anonymous No.22161941]

>>22161892
>cocky tranny
Poetry.

[Anonymous No.22161946]

>>22161752
They are the masters of slave morality. I don't resent them for it though. But their existence is at odds with mine. That's all there is to it. It's purely contingent. Perhaps, at another time in history, I could have been at the top and them at the bottom, and I would have felt no offense if they had wanted to exterminate or enslave me. I do dislike their hypocrisy though.

[Anonymous No.22161957]

>>22161888
trips confirm

[Anonymous No.22161958]

Best thread in a long time
11/10

[Anonymous No.22161966]

>>22161958
What? Are you being sarcastic, right? It's full of /pol/tards tourists trying to blame everything on the jews, like they always do, because confronting the fact they are a failure is too hard for them

[Anonymous No.22161971]

>>22158347
The truth is in the details, forgetting to argue both posts is just lazy and wrong.

[Anonymous No.22161972]

>>22161966
keep crying vaxxie

[Anonymous No.22161974]

>>22158364
You try to escape 4chan but there is no escape it's the ultimate red pill.
You could go to reddit in fact please go there immediately.

[Anonymous No.22161977]

>>22161904
:^(

[Anonymous No.22161979]

>>22161966
The poor jews get blamed for everything just because they’re smarter not because they are race of inbred psychopathic parasites. Ever group of people across thousands of years of time have come to the same conclusion in regards to the jews, but not you and it has nothing to do with the monsters FULLY taking over your media.

[Anonymous No.22161980]

>>22161966
When pseud libtards, /pol/chuds, and trannies join forces to cry about Jordan Peterson pastas it's always funny.

[Anonymous No.22161981]

>>22161914
>If you aren't a pedophile you may as well be one!
>But if you believe in me so that sins may be forgiven then you are forgiven
Where Jesus doesn't forgive everyone the antichrist forgives him.

[Anonymous No.22161985]

>>22161980
Anon you are forgiven

[Anonymous No.22161986]

>>22161980
how many boosters are you on now

[Anonymous No.22161987]

>>22161966
Parasite-lover

[Anonymous No.22161988]

>>22161958
The quality of the board in general has improved tremendously this week because r/literature is in black out, so all the anons who left for there are back. The /pol/ retards are getting particularly reactionary because of this tho, but they literally have no arguments kek. They can't even name one single postmodern marxist.

[Anonymous No.22161990]

>>22161966
I can cum in my own ass

[Anonymous No.22161995]

>>22161988
how does that vaccine feel

[Anonymous No.22161998]

>>22161966
Sword fight in your ass my good man? Deep throbbing bobbie

[Anonymous No.22162004]

>>22161995
I felt a bit sick for a couple days, but, other than that, great. How does long covid feel?

[Anonymous No.22162009]

>>22161986
I am quad boosted with 2x heart attack and brain shrinkage. My genitals have become non functional and puss filled

[Anonymous No.22162013]

>>22161839
If I were to claim that Christian Nationalism is a big part of current Republic politics, I would not simply say "it's just obvious, it's hard to point to because nobody will admit it, but it's there and you're being deceptive by pretending it's not."
I would point to specific senators and other politicians in the party like Ted Cruz and Rick Scott who make very clear policy arguments based off of their Christian identity and desire to govern everyone including non-Christians under those principles. I would point to the recent sitting President Donald Trump and his very unambiguous pandering to an exclusively Christian voter base and vague platitudes said to appease those groups.
Peterson is unable to do anything remotely similar regarding these "neoliberal Marxists," not even give anecdotes of his run-ins with students or other faculty with their names omitted for respect to privacy.

[Anonymous No.22162020]

>>22161930
>However, that's not what's described by "cultural Marxism" and denying that "post-modernism" isn't a current label/influence is retarded.
Then why can't Peterson describe this or explain it any intelligent, or dare I say, academic way?

[Anonymous No.22162028]

>>22161966
This is a /pol/ board, now.

[Anonymous No.22162029]

>>22162013
Socialism is of the devil.
https://youtu.be/os2wE_cLqAg

[Anonymous No.22162030]

>>22162013
>Christian Nationalism
>Ted Cruz and Rick Scott
LMAO. Is Christian Nationalism now a an euphemism for shabbos goys?

[Anonymous No.22162031]

>>22162029
Completely irrelevant but thanks for being schizo, we really needed more of that here.

[Anonymous No.22162043]

>>22162031
Many saints spoke out against the evil ideology of communism and called it literally Satanic.
Show me one Marxist saint (you cannot).
https://youtu.be/q1SQB8O2Aek

[Anonymous No.22162051]

>>22162030
What the fuck is a shabbos goy? I keep seeing it since I came back... Never mind. I googled it. Yeah, same old, 4chan. Can't wait for ar literature to be back.

[Anonymous No.22162053]

>>22162043
Still irrelevant, I'm not a proponent of Marxism nor did anything in my post suggest I was.

[Anonymous No.22162062]

>>22161796
It's more than just being broader than a skim of the manifesto, JBP didn't even read the manifesto that is supposedly foundational to the group he claims is the issue and thought he was going to be debating about. How fucking stupid do you have to be to show up and not do your homework on the topic you have been claiming to be well versed on?

[Anonymous No.22162064]

>>22162013
Labor unions are influenced by Marxism and form a large donation/voting bloc for the Democrats. I actually sat on a union board that had two avowed Marxists that fled their country for political reasons.

[Anonymous No.22162069]

>>22162020
He does and cultural criticism becomes ideological when embedded in academia.

[Anonymous No.22162072]

>>22162064
Do you know another group that makes large donations to the Democrats?
Jews.
Literally. I'm not joking. You can look it up.

[Anonymous No.22162078]

>>22158234

[Anonymous No.22162079]

>>22162078
Did he really say that? It seems out of character for him.

[Anonymous No.22162099]

>>22162079
Does it? Does it really?

[Anonymous No.22162102]

>>22162031
I actually find the schizo religion poster unironically entertaining. It's almost charming, even.

[Anonymous No.22162106]

>>22162069
>He does
Where? News to me. My impression has been that he's been on a sharp decline in all aspects since he started spazzing out about the Bill in Canada that makes trans people a protected class. But if he truly has been capable of describing and explaining this then he has greatly improved in at least one regard since the Zizek debate.

[Anonymous No.22162109]

>>22162064
If you start railing against labor unions, we're gonna have a problem buddy.

[Anonymous No.22162112]

>>22162102
You'll get tired of it quickly. There are several that LARP like that and they feel no hesitation to barge into any thread on any topic.

[Anonymous No.22162117]

>>22162099
Yeah, he never goes mask-off, it's only ever implied who the baddies are so you can insert whatever group you want.

[Anonymous No.22162122]

>>22162112
This is still much more of a sane thread compared to the other one I'm watching, so maybe it's just because of the contrast, lmao

[Anonymous No.22162123]

>>22161888
Yeah I remember him talking about how annoyed he got that everyone was telling him to get it.... So he just went and got it! Shows that when push comes to shove, he sells out his principals. The jab was actually a great test for that.

[Anonymous No.22162127]

You yourself go and read his twitter feed for the last 24 hours. Or the last week.

The man is a fucking sperg loser. He's making retarded jokes, posting dozens of photos of snakes and clowns (wtf), he is clearly extremely angry and catastrophizing, he is lashing out to the point of calling for revolution over the dumbest benign shit.

As someone who has also taken and quit Benzos I 100% guarantee he is at about hour 12 of benzo withdrawal. It's a whiteknuckle teeth gritted panicky fear of things that aren't that bad.

The funniest part is when Christians follow this drug addled goofball.

Honestly I hope he has an aneurysm and passes in the next few days. He'll likely have seizures if he doesn't smarten up. lmfao

[Anonymous No.22162128]

>>22162079
just an hour ago. it's real

[Anonymous No.22162140]

>>22162128
What the fuck lmfao
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1670274327462178816?cxt=HHwWgMCz3dfpgK4uAAAA

[Anonymous No.22162194]

[Anonymous No.22162206]

>>22162109
I've helped organize 2 and I can tell you they're a necessary evil. The top brass are generally shitty people and the infighting that can occur between them is hypocrisy at its best.

[Anonymous No.22162211]

>>22162112
Better than trannies.

[Anonymous No.22162220]

>>22162140
10 seconds of clicking and you find out they're reacting to Joe Rogan making fun of some guy who said they're aligning with RFK to create a coalition of "neofascists."

[Anonymous No.22162238]

>>22162220
I followed the reply chain and none of that is clear to anyone who isn't already ingrained in the social circle and aware of all the personalities involved. I have no idea who RFK or Peter Hotez is. Am I to just take your word for it?
Are all of his other recent unhinged tweets just jokes as well?

[Anonymous No.22162240]

>>22162220
>TDS Ridin' with Biden vaccination researcher/science popularizer says RFK via Joe Rogan is spreading misinformation after asking Elon to give him money for vaccines
Joe Rogan offers him $100k to debate him on his show
>others get on board and start throwing in money (didn't check all the thread but it was up to $250k and Elon commented)
>he calls them all neo-fascists
>Weinstein and Peterson start making fun of him
Pretty based.

[Anonymous No.22162245]

>>22162238
>doesn't know who RFK is
Here's the summary:>>22162240. It took longer to type it out than it did to see it.

[Anonymous No.22162267]

>>22162238
>Am I to just take your word for it?
You can spend 20 seconds following the threads before you jump to a conclusion that suits your bias, retard.

[Anonymous No.22162274]

>>22162240
>TDS
Who or what does this mean?

[Anonymous No.22162288]

>>22162274
You're on the internet. Look it up, retard.

[Anonymous No.22162295]

>>22162288
Tax Deducted at Source, got it.
Or Total Dissolved Solids?

[Anonymous No.22162319]

>>22162240
You are a cowardly troll demon. Remember when wrath was considered a sin?

[Anonymous No.22162332]

>>22162295
>>22162319
Are you disappointed or something?

[Anonymous No.22162337]

>>22162332
I just wanted to know what anon was talking about. I don't know what the implication you're making is either.

[Anonymous No.22162360]

>>22162337
You know being retarded on purpose is the same thing as just being retarded, right?

[Anonymous No.22162363]

>>22162360
You replied to the wrong post.

[Anonymous No.22162366]

>>22162363
>DURRRRRR
Retard confirmed.

[Anonymous No.22162373]

>>22162366
lmao

[Anonymous No.22162384]

>>22162373
>lmao
You saw something shiny?

[Anonymous No.22162408]

>>22162384
Got anything else?

[Anonymous No.22162477]

>>22162013
It's hilarious you don't see the irony of your post.

[Anonymous No.22162757]

>>22160943
>Morgoth
Isn't that a black metal band?

[Anonymous No.22162850]

>>22161777
>It's a tremendous effort to only get a cope seethe and them abandoning the thread whenever you start poking holes in their argument. I feel like 90% of the debate on this site boils down to wanting to win and not seeking the truth.
It's hard for anyone reasonable to care about seeking truth on a site where you can't reasonably pin down someone to stand by their purported principles. That leaves only the self masturbation of winning the argument as a worthwhile outcome.

[Anonymous No.22162871]

>>22161777
>>22162850
It's politics, they're here to agitate to an imagined audience for their political beliefs and latch onto every topic to do so; disrupting all discussion.

they do the same no matter their beliefs are, when they give up on one fad and move to the next they'll still use the same language and tactics.

[Anonymous No.22162878]

>>22160301
You notice he's basically saying to relegate them out so that they will be something he doesn't have to deal with which is a double speaking way of saying that you cannot have anonymity. It's the same thing effectively just in a way that he can hypocritically pretend it's not banned when it effectively is banned, that way no one can attack his position. It's pretending to be reasonable.

[Anonymous No.22162949]

>>22158234
>Comparing an e-celeb to actual philosophers.

Peterson is the modern dim wit post-modernist version of Billy Graham or Joel Osteen. Literally nothing new that hasn't been already said by others before him, backed only by marketing and podcast shilling. He targets poor lonely men because he knows they're illiterate, no impulse control, masturbatory junkies that want to be coddled and told nicely how stupid they are for fucking up their lives.

[Anonymous No.22163102]

>>22158307
Bedeviled egg! Adversary of Logos, foul perverter of thought and word, enemy of basic human decency - Can you not see that your immature and cowardly flight from yourself, your accursed anonymity threatens to sever the very fabric of our tenuous modern milieu? You malignant rats externalize your extreme unmedicated psychopathic dark tetrad narcissism and it's we, the open majority who pay the price. You hyperbolic hatemongers are manifesting malignity appropriate only for the apocalypse. Bloody hell, that is where we are headed, eh?! If you possessed one fragmentary iota of the personal responsibility exhibited by your forefathers, if you exhibited even a single quantifiable atom of the God-given conscientiousness and merit displayed by the Jews you so vociferously denounce, you benighted herd animals, you troglodytic TROLLS would crawl back into your unmade caves and wash your corrupt, stinking penises but no! The abyss of manichean solipsism has engulfed you entirely. Do you have the vaguest comprehension what wrath will be wrought when you wretched anti-Semitical werewolves have your way with the blessed, supple virgin that is our hard-won democracy? Black wizard of hopeless folly, pusillanimous pipsqueak of perfidy and prejudice, idiot ideologue of Dunning-Kruger-deranged moral "superiority" - I straighten my back and take my meds in righteous defiance of you and your bloody kind! Up yours, you feculent miasma of hate-regurgitating Machiavellian weasels; Go and find some other site to sully! VADE RETRO SATANA! Flee to your vile pit and churn in the ever-widening gyre of misery you've conjured for yourself. Mark my words: If there is a just God, you and your damnable Holocaust-denying ilk WILL go to Hell. May the supreme master of all dominance hierarchies YHWH have no mercy on your repugnant souls. May you be devoured by a dragon, may you drink the poison yourselves, and may I ever be rid of you interminably abominable, shadow-possessed, snake-tongued ANONS!!!

[Anonymous No.22163239]

>open redditors
>tranny melt downs
>that one fag peterstein white knight who shows up every thread to defend his honor
garbage thread

[Anonymous No.22163261]

It seems there are now Peterson faggot style ppl in undergrad tutorials. Maybe there always were. But they act as if everyone there and the whole world is getting one over on them but they've figured it out and understand something deeper on all topics and debate is really important lol. They are so much like him, it's really repellent. They don't see everyone rolling their eyes at them. They literally cannot talk about the readings and act normal.