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Did the byzantines and medieval eastern orthodox in general have any poetry or philosophy? Who is their Dante? Who is their Aquinas?

>> No.22147541

>>22147498
Maximus the Confessor was probably the Orthodox Aquinas, or John of Damascus. Gregory Palamas was also an important figure.

>> No.22147570

>>22147541
Yeah but they didn't write poems.

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>>22147498
Church fathers are vital part of the canon; they are as follows: Athanasius of Alexandria, Gregory of Nazianzus, Basil of Caesarea and John Chrysostom. Justin Martyr for apologetics, try any compendiums about the lives of the saints which are canonised in the Eastern Church, The Golden Legend, I think, is a western text but contains saints deemed by the Orthodox too.

For any poems (if I remember it as that correctly) check out The Way of the Pilgrim and The Pilgrim Continues His Way for a narrative about the Jesus Prayer, and other secular poets like the satires of Lucian,

Enjoy bro

>> No.22147612

They wrote ceremonial and warfare treatises, and romances.

>> No.22147625

>>22147612
like what?

>> No.22147633

>>22147588
I am aware of all of the dogmatic orthodox /lit/, I wondered if there is more than this.

>> No.22147823
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Saint Maximus the Confessor! (way better than Aquinas by the way)!!
Also, Papists will seethe at this, but Jay Dyer is a great source for learning about theology.

>> No.22147907

>>22147823
Jay Dyer is a great source of Rusoid cocksucking, like most eternal catechumens Ortholarpers of the ROCOR kind. You have done far greater damage to le heckin based Orthodoxy than both pedophile Papists and Gay Prot pastors combined did to theirs. Native Orthodox hate you. Kill yourselves.

>> No.22147922

>>22147907
His work is supported by many Orthodox priests.
By the way did you know that the monks of Mount Athos have refused to meet with the Ukrainian schismatics, as well as anyone who got the covid "vaccine"?

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A man was visiting an Eastern Orthodox monastery and a monk came up to him and said "There is something terribly wrong with you. You spiritually have a foul stench about you."
The man didn't understand what the monk could be talking about.
They met again that night and had a conversation. Eventually it came out that the man had written a book supporting evolutionary theory. This was the cause of the foul stench! The monk told him that evolutionary theory is a Masonic deception and contrary to Orthodox Christianity.
The man later renounced his belief in evolution.

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>>22147922
>m-my side did this, y-your side did the other thing
You're not talking to a Westernoid, retard. I'm immune to your bullshit incomplete and sensationalist headlines and don't take side neither out of contrarianism or adherence to the current based thing. He can be retweeted by all online priests larping as based for followers for all I care. If you support white genocide and ethnic replacement by Muslim hordes, regardless of how many culture-war/lib-owning/religious layers you put on to cover the stench, you're a nigger.
Many Athos monks also took the vaccine. Many were also bribed to Putin who donated a lot of money to the churches there, like the Pharisee he is. There is no "the monks of Mount Athos" as a single group, like the headline you read and retweeted to your dumb Westernoid audience.
And no one is schismatic who wants complete separation from the Satanists defiling Orthodoxy. It's a matter of personal hygiene before it's religious, even. Not to mention Constantinopole granted OCU autocephaly, but why would your audience ever know about that when you keep seething about the schismatics that didn't want to be under your boot anymore? Religion is just window dressing for your kvetch about losing power, just as in the Soviet times.

>> No.22148113

>>22147907
>Rusoid
>cocksucking
>Ortholarpers
>le heckin based
>Kill yourselves.

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>>22147588
>Hmmmm, OP asked for medieval eastern orthodox poetry
>Better recommend a Roman Syriac pagan who proliferated during the heyday of the Roman empire!

The patristics are on point, but what the fuck are you on about?
Wouldn't the Acritic songs be an actual answer to the his question? Why would you recommend in their stead a figure more relevant to contemporary science fiction than the Byzantines?

>> No.22148772

>>22148101
>that image
I can't judge him but that statement is blasphemy for the sake of political myth making.

You're right that the monks of Mount Athos are not a monolith. There are political struggles there all the time and the state of Greece persecutes monks of certain monasteries who are inconvenient to their agenda.

That being said I've seen very little of any Orthodox converts supporting Russia. Never in real life and only a few times online.

>> No.22149488

>>22147498
>>22148772
he never made that statement. He blames Lenin for a lot of bad things. He thinks the revolution was a mistake.

>> No.22149497

>>22148772
Monks of the Holy Mountain sat Putin on the Byzantine throne.

>> No.22149529

>>22147498
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_literature

>> No.22150583

>>22147498
Consult the suda

>> No.22150614

Theres works by Emperor Justinian.

>> No.22150624

>>22147570
John of Damascus wrote a lot of poetry, just like St Symeon the New Theologian
but poetry is really rich in the Syrian tradition, more than in the Greek and Latin

>> No.22150660

>>22148654
He was popular in the Byzantine Empire.

>> No.22150680

>>22147570
Boy, what?
There are countless Byzantine poems, many of them unedited. If you want a list of every poem, go check Initia Carminum Byzantinorum.
Also, there are many papyri with poetry from Byzantine Egypt.

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>>22150660
Shakespeare is popular in the US -
Does that make him a famous American poet and paragon of secular application of Evangelicalism?

It's amazing how much people who are into orthodoxy are capable of hermetically closing themselves away from anything that wasn't poured over by a posse of quarrelsome hyper-fixated hermits ruled over by savage Islamic overlords (or at least Greek opportunists).
Just because some monks fought over him or liked him doesn't make him in any shape way or form more relevant to the thread question than actual secular poetry of the time.

>> No.22151803

so do the Italians claim Byzantines or is it just the Greeks?