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Finished the first novel after putting it off for nearly 20 years and thoroughly enjoyed it. I know most of the sequels, both by Frank and Brian, are incredibly controversial. At what point is it best to stop? Messiah seems to be a book a lot of people shit on but I'm enjoying it around 100 pages in.

>> No.22119488

>>22119462
Unironically stop after this one.

Maybe read God Emperor of Dune. Ignore the rest. Read a synopsis of the events between the too books if you must.

>> No.22119494

God emperor sucks ass. It's the worst meme in scifi.

>> No.22120546

>>22119462
At least read Messiah. I just finished them all (Frank) and enjoyed the ride immensely.

>> No.22120548

>>22119488
Messiah is the best of the sequels.

>> No.22120561

>>22119462
Depends if you like the story of Paul or arrakis. I stopped after messiah and didn’t feel the need to continue.

>> No.22120576

>>22119494
worm funne haha

>> No.22120587

>>22119462
Messiah was intended as an integral part of Dune, but for some reason (perhaps practicality) was published separately. It's essential reading.
Children of Dune fleshes out the Fremen culture. Read it if you want to be immersed in Fremen lore.
God Emperor is a tedious scene-setter for the later sequels. Slog through it if you have sufficient appetite for more Dune.
Heretics is good fun. It's about all the various power blocs trying to outmanoeuvre each other, which is what Dune books should be about.
Chapter House focuses exclusively on the Bene Gesserit, but is an exciting story in itself.
On no account read beyond that. The pseudo-sequels by Brian Herbert and others are purest trash.gdxwr

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>>22120587
>captchaposting
Time for bed, I think.

>> No.22120660

everything through Chapterhouse is good if you don't mind the weirdness. Havent touched anything involving Brian

>> No.22120676

>>22119462
Stop at Messiah, stop at God Emperor, stop at Chapterhouse, or don't stop at all (please don't choose this option).

>> No.22120791

>>22120660
Some of my favorite parts of the first book were the long philosophical monologues during the acid trips, I've done a ton of psychedelics in my life so that's a part of the book I particularly responded to - I knew the broad strokes of Dune's characters and plot through meme osmosis, but I had no idea it was so psychedelic and spiritual.

From what I gather, the books continue to double down more on the monologuing and philosophy as it continues at the expense of the hero's journey stuff, which alienated a lot of normiess but I'm sure I'll dig God Emperor when I get to it.

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>> No.22120913

>>22119462
The interesting thing about the Dune series is that you can find people who love or hate any given volume. Opinions vary because the books vary in content and style so you might as well run with it and make up your own mind.

Thats for Frank's stuff of course. The Brian/KJA stuff is pure trash.

>> No.22121065

>>22119494
Having a bored worm god fuck with his subjects is fun for me

>> No.22121285

>>22119462
Read all the Herbert books if you're open to new things.
Don't listen to the buttblasted haters who wanted Herbert to keep playing in the perfect sandbox he made in Dune. Herbert has no interest in that he gonna blow that fucker up every book to build an even weirder sandbox.

>> No.22121539

>>22119494
How come it is so divisive? Is the book that diffrent from the rest of the series?

>> No.22121719

>>22121539
>How come it is so divisive
It's literally about an immortal worm-man who plans his own demise over the course of thousands of years.

>> No.22123067

>>22121539
I've read to God Emperor, and I have to say that none of the Dune books are all that similar to one another. From what I hear about the last two that tend holds.
People bounce off God Emperor because it's almost nothing but characters waxing philosophical at one another, but in a super weird and confusing way. I loved it, but I do think describing how Duncan climbs a cliff make a woman orgasm was an odd thing to include.

>> No.22123110

>>22119462
read all frank's books t. someone who read the frank books

>> No.22123615

>>22120791
I did too back in the day. I enjoyed all 6 of Frank’s books. God Emperor is memorable but was one of the hardest ones for me to get through. Last two were great and explored a lot of different ideas. I’m glad they are not all the same.

>> No.22123641

>>22119462
>. At what point is it best to stop?
Chapterhouse

>> No.22123647

>>22121539
It isn't divisive. Theya re shitposters trolling-through-gaslighiting people to spread the inverse meme of people who think and express God Emperor of Autism is kino.